Vietnam?..I wasn't there, but still care!...No offense to GOD, but Vietnam era Air Force,Marine,Navy,Army are like gods to me.......I was never a pilot BUT! I was a Flight Engineer on CH-47 Chinook helicopters during the 1980s...
Republic liked to build them big, starting with the P-47. When I built 1/48 scale models of the Thud and the B-17, I was amazed to see that the fuselage length was about the same. The 105 was fast, but not very manuverable.My hat's off to the Thud drivers- we lost a lot of them over Vietnam.
@eedoon Thanks for the great info! You're absolutely right in the fact that while the P-47 was a big fighter for its day, it was much smaller than the B-17.(A little less than half the fuselage length) By comparison, the fuselage length on the F-105 was 64 ft 5 inches, which does make it roughly comparable with that of the Flying Fortress.That still blows me away in light of the fact that the B-17 carried a crew of 10, while the Thud was a single-seater.
The F-105 is one of if not the worst aircraft ever built. The US has a long bad history of picking the wrong airplane (based on politics, rather than figures) and this was a prime example. Its competition the North American F-107 was one of the best aircraft ever built even by todays standards. It was superior not only to the F-105 (which is not saying much) but superior to the later F-4 Phantom. Basically, it would have been like having F-16's back in the day.
I'm reading an autobiography by a retired F-105 pilot, it's called "THUD RIDGE", by Colonel Jack Broughton. He describes to you about a full expieriance of what it was like to go into combat with these workhorses.
You should also read "When Thunder Rolled" by Ed Rasimus. He did a tour in Rolling THunder, than came back a few years later for another tour in F4s, which he writes about in "Palace Cobra". Well written, intelligent books..
I have read "When Thunder Roller" and I couldn't put it down once i started. Very well written and gives a good insight of what it was really like at the individual pilot level. Nothing like single engine, single seat!
listening to CHM Award winner Leo Thornsen (i think was his name) talk about downing a MIG 17 with his F-105 to save a SANDIE(A1) on a S.A.R. Mission will make you swell up with pride as an American.. Then to hear him tell about traveling @ almost 800MPH at less than 100 feet to avoid being downed himself will fill you with Respect for these men
THANKS Klatuu1.. Yeah it turns out that Leo Thornsness and his back seater were shotdown shortly after helping that Skyraider and ended up spendingh several years as a "peoples guest"
monte6714, your bio shows you at 51 years old. That means you were born in 1957, so how could you have been flying anything in Vietnam in 1967 when you would be only ten years old?
When I was at Hill AFB in the 1980s, the Guard or reserve wing there(I forget which one they were) was still flying them. They took off slow and were damn loud jets. My favorite 100 series jet!
Awesome jet, some damn dangerous flying and most important of all, the brave pilots who faced danger at tree top level with a shit load of smack on the jet! Respect.
much love and respect for the THUD and her brave crews both air and ground.. from houston texas baby.. the last stronghold in america for conservatives and god fearing americans.. we're used to being surrounded down here ..man this is where the ALAMO is baby!!!
@Nergoil Well... I love the 105, and the Wild Weasel missions, but, if you do enough reading, you'll find some pilots failed to push with the bombing plan, some dropped and lighted at the first sign of trouble.
Having say that , I agree the Thuds did a lot of dirty work, and the account of the weasel pilots doodging SAMS are hairising...
F-105 pilots also had to learn a lot of their bombing skills and tactics "on the job." The USAF made no provisions for training tactical bomber pilots, dog fighters, close air-support, and wild-weasel crews. In Vietnam, a lot of air crews had to learn as they went along
The reason for their high loss rate is simply because they did more. 75% of all Air Force bombs dropped over No. Vietnam were put there by the F105. And they still managed to shoot down 27 Mig's, 25 with the Vulcan 20mm cannon. The last aerial victory for the Thud occured in December of 67. The Air Force set a policy against the Thud drivers not to engage MiG's in combat after Dec. 67. That job would then be granted to the F-4's. Otherwise, the MiG count would've been higher.
They took a lot of losses as they flew so far north into some of the most heavily defended areas. Once they dropped their loads, they could really get out of dodge fast. Down low, the fastest plane for a lot of years.
sorry cornskid i accidentally gave you a thumbsdown... you're probably right about the 105's coming out of bergstrom AFB.. My mom told me about when she was growing up near san antonio tx about the acres of fully fueled and armed B-52'S sitting out there on tarmac
F105 is allways short on fuel. Flies right on the edge. Very heavy, very powerful, very fast, very difficult to master. One of the very coolest planes ever built
The F-105 was used as a tactical bomber (not a fighter), and could cary more ordnance than a WWII B-17. The F-4, with no gun, and in Air Force use, with crappy heat-seekers, was no great shakes at first either. The F-8 Crusader was a much better dogfighter than the Phantom.
The Thunderchief also had extremely low trans-sonic drag characteristics, and an extremely high thrust-to-weight ratio. It could literally walk away from next generation fighters like the F-15 at lower altitudes. A real top fuel dragster.
Yes, the F-15 can out accelerate and out climb the F-105 in almost every area, accept when transitioning from subsonic to supersonic at LOW altitude. At that point the F-15's transonic drag outweighs the thrust-to-weight ratio. Anywhere else there is no contest.
Nicknamed the "Thud" for the sound it made hwen it exploded. Not an uncommon thing for an aircraft that flys into some of the most heavily defended airspace on earth.
"Thud" was its nickname because they thought it would crash into the ground because of mechanical failure, playing the sound it would make when crashing.
It wasn't built for dogfighting. It was a ground-attack plane, filling the same role as the F-16 and A-10 do today. It also sustained the higest losses of any U.S. aircraft in the war, with more than half of all Thunderchiefs built being destroyed over Vietnam. The narrator wasn't kidding about how brave those pilots were.
The 105 was built specifically to carry tactical nuclear weapons at a very high speed and low atl (Much like the A-5, later RA-5). Both planes were designed to be fast and "clean" (as a tac bomber could be)so they could come in low and fast, sling their nukes in or near the target area, and have the speed and fuel to at least get out of the blast radius.
The cannon and aim-9s that could be carried on the F-105 were a secondary feature. Think of them being used more for self-defense than actual attack. (much like the a/a weapons carried by the A-7 or A-10). During the late 5o's- mid 60's 105 pilots were trained to on how to do basic flight, how to approach a target from low alt, and how to drop nukes. They were not trained to do tactical bombing, close air support, strafing, and wild-weasel. Roles that the Thud was asked to fill during Vietnam.
Something else that's cool about this plane is that it really was as mean as it looks. It could take alot of AAA or even missile hits and still be able to fly on to a safe landing and it could withstand some pretty high Gs also. Safe to say its structure was "built to last". She's such a beauty for a flying tank and is the largest single-engined fighter bomber the U.S. has flown to date.
Vietnam?..I wasn't there, but still care!...No offense to GOD, but Vietnam era Air Force,Marine,Navy,Army are like gods to me.......I was never a pilot BUT! I was a Flight Engineer on CH-47 Chinook helicopters during the 1980s...
xxchinookxx 1 month ago
These are the planes George Bush flew.
So tell me again how stupid he was.
MistrX44444 1 month ago
my grandfather worked on this exact plane
afterburner2012 6 months ago
I am a Thud pilot, I love my plane.
It is my body, I am its brain.
It's packed with transistors, black boxes, diodes.
But please stay alert, 'cause you may get hurt
when she explodes!
ja4life2011 7 months ago
Did anybody have, or know anything about song dedicated to F-105 ?I heard this long, long time ago , and I would like to have it ...
Thank you !
Bokicazver 8 months ago in playlist F105
Five F-4 Phantom drivers dislike this! Shame on you all...and piss on the F-4!!!
ryanspeed 10 months ago
Day after 25 hour day???
dawnofwar92 1 year ago
Republic liked to build them big, starting with the P-47. When I built 1/48 scale models of the Thud and the B-17, I was amazed to see that the fuselage length was about the same. The 105 was fast, but not very manuverable.My hat's off to the Thud drivers- we lost a lot of them over Vietnam.
usafvet100 1 year ago
@usafvet100
B-17G
# Length: 74 ft 4 in (22.66 m)
# Wingspan: 103 ft 9 in (31.62 m)
P-47D
# Length: 36 ft 1 in (11.00 m)
# Wingspan: 40 ft 9 in (12.42 m)
eedoon 1 year ago
@eedoon Thanks for the great info! You're absolutely right in the fact that while the P-47 was a big fighter for its day, it was much smaller than the B-17.(A little less than half the fuselage length) By comparison, the fuselage length on the F-105 was 64 ft 5 inches, which does make it roughly comparable with that of the Flying Fortress.That still blows me away in light of the fact that the B-17 carried a crew of 10, while the Thud was a single-seater.
usafvet100 1 year ago
i hate thud haters
everythingman987 1 year ago
The F-105 is one of if not the worst aircraft ever built. The US has a long bad history of picking the wrong airplane (based on politics, rather than figures) and this was a prime example. Its competition the North American F-107 was one of the best aircraft ever built even by todays standards. It was superior not only to the F-105 (which is not saying much) but superior to the later F-4 Phantom. Basically, it would have been like having F-16's back in the day.
ti994apc 1 year ago
I'm reading an autobiography by a retired F-105 pilot, it's called "THUD RIDGE", by Colonel Jack Broughton. He describes to you about a full expieriance of what it was like to go into combat with these workhorses.
namsivad 1 year ago 4
@namsivad
You should also read "When Thunder Rolled" by Ed Rasimus. He did a tour in Rolling THunder, than came back a few years later for another tour in F4s, which he writes about in "Palace Cobra". Well written, intelligent books..
DamoSuzuki100 1 year ago
@DamoSuzuki100
I have read "When Thunder Roller" and I couldn't put it down once i started. Very well written and gives a good insight of what it was really like at the individual pilot level. Nothing like single engine, single seat!
Parubhi 1 year ago
@Parubhi I'll buy it.. thanks !
canals22 1 year ago
@Parubhi Fantastic book! He also wrote a sequel about his time on F-4s afterwards, Palace Cobra which is also very good.
gnarkillkicksass 1 year ago
fly this sometimes in the game Wings Over Vietnam, very pretty bird
PocusUK 1 year ago
Thunderchief, i like
jaw1024 1 year ago
Great clip. Great looking bird...Sleek and fast.
squadman33 1 year ago
The way air wars are fought today, we learned in blood there.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
thunderchief is still active or not already?
6digit 1 year ago
@6digit Not.
PrinzEugn 1 year ago
Beautiful aircraft!
But had no chance against MIG-19..
VelvetViolator 1 year ago
The F-105 was one awesome sexy looking beast!!
ryanspeed 1 year ago
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ryanspeed 1 year ago
Oh! It is good russian plane!!!
xUSSRx 2 years ago
Those tankers are still fyling. buy the damn kc767
morbidfrost 2 years ago
Is this from "Vietnam - The Ten Thousand Day War" ???
JacobWeinberg 2 years ago
@JacobWeinberg
This was a film called "The 25 Hour Day". It was sort of a F-105 documentary/promo film by Fairchild Republic done in 1966.
I want to say this was filmed at Tahkli AFB, I'm not sure. It could have been filmed at Korat.
ryanspeed 2 years ago
Vietnam. LOL what the hell is the Ten Thousand Day War???No disrespect lol.
dcoverda21 2 years ago
I was a documentary that came out in 1980.
JacobWeinberg 2 years ago
sorry b4 i was born. worth watchin?
dcoverda21 2 years ago
meh, its ok
JacobWeinberg 2 years ago
more f105 dow in viet nam
trechantrau 2 years ago
un vero cavallo di razza il thud grazie per questo video
1maubat 2 years ago
if u people did not know, this aircraft can also hold a nuke.
swordfreak3 2 years ago 3
The Thud was a beautiful beast!! I'd give almost anything to see one of these old girls fly again!!
ryanspeed 2 years ago 4
f 105 was designed by georgian engineer alexander kartveli
giooorgi 2 years ago
Vai me... seriously?
Andybucker 2 years ago
My Vietnam War''s favorite airplane with the Skyraider and the Skyhawk !
jerrymail 2 years ago
nice little propaganda mess. sike na the 105 thud was ths shit big up to everyone in Vietnam land or ground
dcoverda21 2 years ago
"ths shit big up to everyone in Vietnam"? What does that mean?
MrUprightcitizen100 2 years ago
Or you can just google props. Same thing. Great Respect
Rangers Lead the way
dcoverda21 2 years ago
BIG ASS aircraft...excellent aircraft...pretty damn tough aircraft!!
simmons4621 2 years ago 3
thanks for keeping memory of the legend F 105 and other 60s alive.
xosrov2 2 years ago
Hollywood needs to make a film about F105s 100 mission tour.
660magnum 2 years ago 3
We could have won the war with these things if they'd have let 'em bomb actual targets.
Hvnscent 2 years ago
Who is the Narrator in this film? Not the pilot responding.
Taimak77 2 years ago
0.54......isnt that the sound only F104's make?
AdrianNtart 2 years ago
Thud
GreenGabber1 3 years ago 2
We'll see who is an F-105 buff when they complete the following:
What's the sound a 105 makes when it hits the ground?
steindaddie 3 years ago
On landing, the first sound is made by the tires when they screech.
In an uncontrolled landing, all planes virtually make the same sound.
THUD086 3 years ago 2
THUD!!!! also the sound they make when they hit the jungle floor
Racer1505 3 years ago
Thud
bygonejohn 3 years ago
listening to CHM Award winner Leo Thornsen (i think was his name) talk about downing a MIG 17 with his F-105 to save a SANDIE(A1) on a S.A.R. Mission will make you swell up with pride as an American.. Then to hear him tell about traveling @ almost 800MPH at less than 100 feet to avoid being downed himself will fill you with Respect for these men
1z1q 3 years ago 3
Thorsness.
Leo K Thorseness.
Klatuu1 2 years ago
THANKS Klatuu1.. Yeah it turns out that Leo Thornsness and his back seater were shotdown shortly after helping that Skyraider and ended up spendingh several years as a "peoples guest"
1z1q 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Flew this jet in NAM..in 1967.
monte6714 3 years ago
monte6714, your bio shows you at 51 years old. That means you were born in 1957, so how could you have been flying anything in Vietnam in 1967 when you would be only ten years old?
THUD086 3 years ago 3
Its called bullshitting...
AdrianNtart 2 years ago
I don't understand your comment, AdrianNtart.
THUD086 2 years ago
Cos somone told you ''Flew this jet in NAM..in 1967''.....whic is a lie.... he was bulling....
AdrianNtart 2 years ago 2
Okay, I got you now Adrian. I forgot about that. Thanks.
THUD086 2 years ago
When I was at Hill AFB in the 1980s, the Guard or reserve wing there(I forget which one they were) was still flying them. They took off slow and were damn loud jets. My favorite 100 series jet!
Notoriousjp 3 years ago 2
Awesome jet, some damn dangerous flying and most important of all, the brave pilots who faced danger at tree top level with a shit load of smack on the jet! Respect.
Parubhi 3 years ago
me hace recordar cuando a los argentiindios le sacaron las malvinas we muy buen video
malvinassoninglesas 3 years ago
sorete!! malvinas argentinas
lucianmop 3 years ago
much love and respect for the THUD and her brave crews both air and ground.. from houston texas baby.. the last stronghold in america for conservatives and god fearing americans.. we're used to being surrounded down here ..man this is where the ALAMO is baby!!!
1z1q 3 years ago 5
I take it your a Michael Moore fan then.
kingsman565 3 years ago 2
HAhahahahaha!!!! yeah brother... I am a huge fan of cutting his toungue out and stapling to his fat face...
1z1q 3 years ago 6
LOL
kingsman565 3 years ago 2
The Thud squadrons in Vietnam had airplanes made of aluminum, bombs made of iron, and pilots made of steel.
Nergoil 3 years ago 45
that comment struck me... as bad ass, intelligent ,and true Nergoil
1z1q 3 years ago 14
@Nergoil Well their balls were steel anyway. Here's to 'em.
Warthogfan 1 year ago
@Nergoil Well... I love the 105, and the Wild Weasel missions, but, if you do enough reading, you'll find some pilots failed to push with the bombing plan, some dropped and lighted at the first sign of trouble.
Having say that , I agree the Thuds did a lot of dirty work, and the account of the weasel pilots doodging SAMS are hairising...
canals22 1 year ago
@Nergoil and yet they lost
Jesteria78 1 year ago
@Nergoil I think there's some brass involved too.
ahz123 1 year ago
@Nergoil And brains made of rubber
ionutcelgroaznic 9 months ago
@Nergoil no just flesh and bone.
jrkepler 8 months ago
F-105 pilots also had to learn a lot of their bombing skills and tactics "on the job." The USAF made no provisions for training tactical bomber pilots, dog fighters, close air-support, and wild-weasel crews. In Vietnam, a lot of air crews had to learn as they went along
ironroad18 4 years ago
The reason for their high loss rate is simply because they did more. 75% of all Air Force bombs dropped over No. Vietnam were put there by the F105. And they still managed to shoot down 27 Mig's, 25 with the Vulcan 20mm cannon. The last aerial victory for the Thud occured in December of 67. The Air Force set a policy against the Thud drivers not to engage MiG's in combat after Dec. 67. That job would then be granted to the F-4's. Otherwise, the MiG count would've been higher.
THUD086 4 years ago 7
They took a lot of losses as they flew so far north into some of the most heavily defended areas. Once they dropped their loads, they could really get out of dodge fast. Down low, the fastest plane for a lot of years.
Scooterjohnn 4 years ago 3
Beautiful plane
Belenor 4 years ago
We used to see them near Austin Tx I think they came from Bergstrom AFB
cornskid 4 years ago
sorry cornskid i accidentally gave you a thumbsdown... you're probably right about the 105's coming out of bergstrom AFB.. My mom told me about when she was growing up near san antonio tx about the acres of fully fueled and armed B-52'S sitting out there on tarmac
1z1q 3 years ago 6
F105 is allways short on fuel. Flies right on the edge. Very heavy, very powerful, very fast, very difficult to master. One of the very coolest planes ever built
cornskid 4 years ago
Could walk away from F-15 for few minutes only. Full afterburner will empty tanks very quickly. Dragster is good analogy
cornskid 4 years ago
Without the F-4 Phantom, the US air war during the Vietnam war will be a total failure if they relied only to the Thuds
frostedpurple 4 years ago
The F-105 was used as a tactical bomber (not a fighter), and could cary more ordnance than a WWII B-17. The F-4, with no gun, and in Air Force use, with crappy heat-seekers, was no great shakes at first either. The F-8 Crusader was a much better dogfighter than the Phantom.
Basilisk1 4 years ago 5
about half of the thuds produced were lost in combat over southeast asia.
schukisfast 4 years ago 3
The Thunderchief also had extremely low trans-sonic drag characteristics, and an extremely high thrust-to-weight ratio. It could literally walk away from next generation fighters like the F-15 at lower altitudes. A real top fuel dragster.
Basilisk1 4 years ago 2
Thunder chief has a 0.74 thrust to weight ratio. The F-15C has 1.12. You give the thud too much credit.
cas242 4 years ago
Yes, the F-15 can out accelerate and out climb the F-105 in almost every area, accept when transitioning from subsonic to supersonic at LOW altitude. At that point the F-15's transonic drag outweighs the thrust-to-weight ratio. Anywhere else there is no contest.
Basilisk1 4 years ago 2
There's more physics involved than thrust : weight.
slickwing 4 years ago
TWR is just for acceleration fair enough. But the F-15C doesn't generally fly low, its made for medium-high altitude.
cas242 4 years ago 3
Nicknamed the "Thud" for the sound it made hwen it exploded. Not an uncommon thing for an aircraft that flys into some of the most heavily defended airspace on earth.
CBass1307 4 years ago
"Thud" was its nickname because they thought it would crash into the ground because of mechanical failure, playing the sound it would make when crashing.
brtshstel 4 years ago
a fast plane but not a good dogfighter.
pfiffer2974 4 years ago
It wasn't built for dogfighting. It was a ground-attack plane, filling the same role as the F-16 and A-10 do today. It also sustained the higest losses of any U.S. aircraft in the war, with more than half of all Thunderchiefs built being destroyed over Vietnam. The narrator wasn't kidding about how brave those pilots were.
CountArtha 4 years ago
The 105 was built specifically to carry tactical nuclear weapons at a very high speed and low atl (Much like the A-5, later RA-5). Both planes were designed to be fast and "clean" (as a tac bomber could be)so they could come in low and fast, sling their nukes in or near the target area, and have the speed and fuel to at least get out of the blast radius.
ironroad18 4 years ago 3
The cannon and aim-9s that could be carried on the F-105 were a secondary feature. Think of them being used more for self-defense than actual attack. (much like the a/a weapons carried by the A-7 or A-10). During the late 5o's- mid 60's 105 pilots were trained to on how to do basic flight, how to approach a target from low alt, and how to drop nukes. They were not trained to do tactical bombing, close air support, strafing, and wild-weasel. Roles that the Thud was asked to fill during Vietnam.
ironroad18 4 years ago 2
That was one hardass ground attack plane. In the tradition of Republic.
SmiertSpionem 4 years ago
good propaganda during vietnam.....congratulations !
bbays 4 years ago
you parents were probably hippes. thank them for thier effort
stappb 2 years ago 2
Damn I love this jet.
teng27 4 years ago
wow that was cool!
chinobellako 4 years ago
Something else that's cool about this plane is that it really was as mean as it looks. It could take alot of AAA or even missile hits and still be able to fly on to a safe landing and it could withstand some pretty high Gs also. Safe to say its structure was "built to last". She's such a beauty for a flying tank and is the largest single-engined fighter bomber the U.S. has flown to date.
avwiz 4 years ago
WOOOO!
mirikam8 4 years ago
It don't get any better than this.
WulfAce 4 years ago
The F-105 could start its engine by firing a 12 gauge shotgun shell, which would kick into spooling up.
selby06 4 years ago
the mighty thud.. hell of an airplane and damn good looking too.
skipplet 5 years ago
See the ECM poods? Those Thuds were going to strike Route Pack 6!
rafaquintana 5 years ago