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  • I do believe that this is a DC-9-10.

  • Baby -9's are always fun to see... especially if they do the reverser push-back...

  • who else just watches this video to see the other planes?

  • The New York America West livery is pretty cool there in the background.

  • All he needs is side mirrors

  • hahaha...the plane need a side mirror

  • i miss NWA

  • beep, beep,beep, beep

  • thats what i do in FSX when the ground crew glitches, i didnt know it could actually be done

  • @ANDREWMIHAI 757

  • Robin Henderson flying first class, you go girl!

  • Lol

  • Nothing unusual, they done that with our American Eagle flight back in '02

  • fyi, they used to push back like that all the time in the 70's and 80's.

  • Dat dang ol' DC-9

  • technically you are not supposed to do that, it can cause lots of problems

  • @livevideocapture nice to hear from an 'exspurt.' EX is something that has been and Spurt is a drip under pressure!!

  • @setabretsam While many aircraft are physically capable of performing powerbacks, many companies impose restrictions on the practice, mainly due to the risk of foreign object damage from debris propelled into the air. Small metal objects are particularly dangerous as they can be propelled into terminal windows, employees on the ground or even the aircraft itself. In addition, in the United States, restrictions on powerbacks are enforced by the FAA, and the local aviation officials.

  • @livevideocapture when do you go back to playschool? twat

  • Robin Henderson is a bitch.

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  • Goddamn it Robin Benderson get to the frickin first class ticket counter!

  • lol screw the tug

  • oh dude, that's bad ass

  • @kallabos I didn't know about the "union" element to the creation of powerbacks. Thanks.

  • I miss the Northwest look, and this "bowling shoe" livery.

  • did this once on an AirTran 717 in ATL @2000. felt odd, but I liked it!

  • im glad they dont do that any more

  • 0:32 UFO in top right anyone?

  • @MichiganFann uhh... Water Tower anyone?

  • @skipplet i was kidding

  • @MichiganFann epic FAIL.. anyone?

  • @uoy1997 wow

  • Those little DC-9-15's are rockets haha, my pops has plenty of stories about em.

  • Tug? Naa.... Wing walkers? We don't need no stinking wing walkers either!

  • @bones343 ther was a wing walker

  • With the rise of gas I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped using tugs and telling the ground crew to push, lol.

  • @avery2007 Jet fuel costs alot more than regular fuel for pushback tugs.

  • Eastern Airlines (EA) is credited with developing the powerback procedure in the early 80s at ATL. EA wanted to reduce the number of tugs needed to push out aircraft. It was first approved for 727s(100s/200s) and expanded to other airports. Later EA powerbacked DC9s. American did 727s and MD80s at one time. I don't know whether they still use the procedure. Northwest did them at MSP but I don't know about DTW. After Delta aquired NW I don't know about the DC951 status now. 737s verboten!

  • @herbergreen Eastern pioneered powerbacking in response to the machinist union's (the IAM) demands that 3 A&P certified mechanics handle push back for all flights. Powerbacking only requires a any ground crew member monitor each side. See the guys stopping the tarmac traffic? FAA has released the aircraft type restrictions so any aircraft type can (except in snowy or icy conditions). Most airlines deem it too costly on fuel to powerback bigger planes. Powerbacking is also captain's discretion.

  • i have an engine, your argument is invalid

  • RIP NWA :(

  • ... Are they allowed to do that?

  • @Lndmk227 Yes, some aircraft at some gates are allowed to conduct pushback operations. It's not as common these days of high fuel costs due to increased fuel burn versus a conventional tug push. Some airlines now don't even start the second aircraft engine until after they leave the gate so as to save fuel.

    I worked at a small station and saw 727, 737, DC9/MD-80 pushback.

  • @Lndmk227 It used to be a common thing at MSP to see DC-9's push back with their reversers until gas prices sky rocketed.

  • is that a DC-9-10, 15 or 20?

  • NWA operated DC-9-15's/30's/40's/50's

    So it's a 15.

  • Reverses

  • OMG is that America West in the background??? Ah the good ol' days :-)

  • i just realized how small dc9's are!

  • ponganle el freno de mano !!!! jajajaaa

  • Are DC-9's still being used??

  • @ZLinerz

    Delta Airlines has a couple of hundreds of them still flying (since their merger with the airline seen above) and actually most MD-80ies are actually DC-9-81/2/3 (87 and 88 are no longer certified as DC-9 due to new cockpit)

    And DC-9 is actually (one of) the only Jets having been designed to be able to Pushback with reversers to also be able to fly into airports with no or too small ground facilities --> also explains ba757's comment

    cheers

  • @JonaLB752fan delta only has 88's, 90's, and DC-9's. Some of the first MD-88's are actually MD-82s, they were retrofitted to MD-88s

  • @BrunoPotyguara1996 your right, use the american-made power MD has bestowed on it, put them to work!

  • complete idiots, do you have any idea of the amount of crap there is laying around on the ground which, by doing so, will get sucked in by the engine? a nice treat for the compressor, combustion chamber and turbine. I guess they didn't learn anything from the Potomac River crash.

  • @iggymateuk FOD is everyone's responsibility!

  • @iggymateuk you sir obviously do not work on a ramp or you would realize that any respectable airline/ airport commission goes around many times a day on "FOD walks" to pick up any loose debris on the ramp. most FOD walks you would find very little FOD. if there done like there supposed to be done. FOD walks are done before aircraft arrive and after aircraft leave. FOD is everyone's responsibility. FOD only exists if the ramp fails to do its job.

  • @pdowty68...c17's are also capable of this

  • @bubu101502 Yes they are

    

  • love it...i had a dc9 push back with the thrusters the other day right next to an e145, all the embraer pilot could say was "damn!" haha!!

  • ugly chode plane

  • Impressive power!

  • a few select planes were ceritifed to use the reverse thrusters from stopped including the dc-9 md-80 series c-130 hercules, I flew on a c-130 one time and we backed out of gate using reverse thrust, wow was that noisy and powerful!

  • @pdowty68 I have a slight feeling that you have no clue what you are talking about.

    The C-130 is a military aircraft. Unless you're military, i doubt you've flown on one.

    Second, it's also a turboprop aircraft. There is no thrust reverse like the DC-9 or MD-80. All the C-130 does is rotate the propeller blades to direct air forward. Yes, it's loud - but it's not the same as what you're claiming.

  • @ReichBC I am in the civil air patrol the offical auxillarly of the united states air force, and many times I get chances to get tours of and flights on Lockheed C-130's and I know what i am talking about. I also have many hours on cessna 150-152-172-182.

  • Lol wait til you get to see one back into place I saw it once with a C-130 and I didnt have my camera. back and turned into his spot with reverse thrust it was awesome

  • Back in the day did alot of reverses to get out. I know all 727's and DC9's used to and I know theres others. But theres a mechanic standing at the front directing him and he wears goggles to protect his eyes from sand dirt ect.

  • must have been light

  • Lol i thought reversing was hard, but this is another level!

  • some of the best airlines ever.......american west, and northwest!

  • Gangsta!

    

  • AWESOME!!!! I never seen this b4 ..thanks for uploading this

  • I have it on good authority that Robin Henderson missed her flight.

  • That elevator music is so on-point for it backing up on it's own.. lol

  • milwaukee....... I LIVE IN MILWAUKE!!!!! :P south side

  • lol get a backup beeper

  • Common up to the 90's

  • I've never seen a commercial jet with the ability (let alone authority) to do that!

  • WOW! I didn't Know that they can use Resverse thrust for Pushback.

  • @hussey00

    you can, but it´s forbidden

  • @999MAXPOWER999 so basically the pilot is saying: "eh! i dont give a fuck about rules imma do it anyways!"

  • Love the gate music, doo doo doot...

  • What a waste of fuel...how loud would the beeping sound be ??

  • @ermollejuo Ha ha ha, hilarious!

  • I've just noticed that airplanes can do that.

  • Lol ramprat-

  • "Please report to the Northwest...first class...ticket...ticket."

  • @ataramprat She said first class... "check in"... ticket.

  • The 757 pilots next door are saying "Damn I wish I could do that!"

  • @eeektavius lol actually 757's are able to powerback....."technically" lol.......737's & 757's are authorized to powerback

  • Yeah Robert Henderson please get your drunk ass out of the bar and get your ass to the terminal! Robert Henderson drunk fuck get your ass to the terminal you're holding up the fucking plane!!

  • Something not very common!! Great video...

  • i always take that flight from msp to mke! cool vid

  • cheater......

  • I thought you couldn't do that I thought never using them under 60kts was extremely enforced, like to the point that they retract them just below 80kts just to be safe

  • Can the MD-80 series do that too?

  • @thedeitsch Yes, MD-80's, 727's, and DC-9's. American Airlines and Northwest used to use reverse thrust alot to back away from the gate back in the early 90's.

  • I LIVE NEAR MILWAUKE!!! YEA WISCONSIN

  • What the hell....?

  • LooooooL :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

  • 5 minutes later the airplane crashed due to debris in the engines...

  • Nice video. That's classic MSP right there. Bunch of Red-tails, a DC-9, and an America West 757.

  • I remember my mother freaking out about a dc-9 ... she thought it looked like a "small plane" and didn't want to get onboard. ah the 80's!

  • beeepp...beeepp...beeepp...

  • Ahhh so that is how the reversers work.

  • co pilot: Wheres the tug truck for our push back?

    Pilot: I can't wait board walk empires is starting in 50 minutes hit the trust reverse

  • I've heard that reffered to as "Power Back" on my scanner at the airport. Saw it done at KBWI in winter as the ramp was too icey for the tractor to get traction for push back.

  • Cool Video, don't over heat the engines on the ramp

  • I allways thought that another reason a tug was used was to keep the noise down in the airport. Also it can't be easy to back a plane out in a busy airport with trucks and crew crossing everywhere.

  • Robin Henderson is a frakking skank!!!!

  • isn't pushback with thrust reversers illegal?

  • @aimanz98 NWA DC-9 were certified, it was no ilegal for them!!!

  • Cost about $200 in Fuel to do that...........Not Kidding!

  • @welder6g Really? Why don't they just opt for the tug to push them back then? I do agree that the engine push back is way cooler.

  • @Chrisell

    They never use Engine for pushback because of the cost........But sometimes the Tow Bar Breaks the shear bolts and u have no choice.Many Times I have broken the shear pins pushing back and get my backup bolts to hurry up and stick in there to keep your Flight on Time.

  • @welder6g also they can suck up free standing debris around the tarmac into the engine causing failure or severe damage.

  • @welder6g Maybe the pushback service costs more :D.

  • @bolt30 thanks i didnt know that

  • @kyCap222 you are welcome my friend!

  • dont let the NWA DC-9 cheif pilot see this!!

  • @kyCap222 all NWA DC-9 were certified by boeing and FAA to push back using thrust reverse as a normal operation.

  • I thought it can damage engine using reverse thrusters under 60 knots

  • I wonder if he can parallel park that thing?

  • LOL! And i thought you would only see that on flight simulator...

    

  • Aahh, the good ol' days!!!

  • ANd I miss Northwest. ALOT.

    Where else are you gonna get badasses like that?

    I bet there isnt a delta Md-88 doing that.

  • oh wow so a plane can push itself back using thrust reversers without a towbar

  • way too many nwas

  • @mileyrocks107 maybe because that part of the concourse is where Northwest Airlines' planes go to

  • DC-9-15, HP 757 in special "Teamwork Coast to Coast" Livery, RJ-85 in the background. Now that's some great spotting.

  • Is that a DC-9-15!!!!

  • The DC9 was a cool aircraft.

  • funny

  • this is soooooooo not legal!!!

  • @humbertsin1994 who the fuck cares

  • @humbertsin1994

    No offense, but you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Powerbacks have been used, legally, for decades, all over the world. Back in the days when the DC9 and 727 were the most common jet short-haulers, this is all you saw!

    The reason you don't see them as much, is the combination of 1) fewer rear-mounted engine models with sufficient FOD clearance and 2) the increased price of fuel.

  • Jennifer Fecker, Gary More, get to gate D2!

    Robin Henderson- report to northwest first class check-in ticket counter!!!!

    People in Minneapolis airport can't do shit right!

  • i thought she said benderson

  • can someone tell me why there is a America West/ US Air at concourse C, isn't supppost to be with the all other non NWA flights at concourse E?

  • is this a normal manuver?

  • @mathewjordan1993 lol he missed his flight

  • BAe 146 ftw

  • Well think of it this way.They call it reverse thrusters.Now think about the word reverse.That means that every single plane that has reverse thrusters can push back on its own without it having to be pushed.

  • @FS9757 Actually, most jet aircraft can't. Usually reverse thrust only amounts to less than half the potential forward thrust.

    Furthermore, a pushback of this sort is pretty rare, as rear-mounted jets (such as a DC-9 or MD-80) are the only type for which the pushback capability is really used, if ever. Almost always a tow is preferred.

  • @abb1220

    That's not true. Though most wing-mounted aircraft only use bypass flow for reverse, they're still more than strong enough to push themselves backward, even at full load. I've personally seen a 757 pushback, when the only tug (at a small airport) that could've handled it, broke down.

    Wing-mounted aircraft are however, much more prone to ingesting FOD, which is the main reason they very rarely use it. Increased fuel price is another.

  • america west , new york scheme ftw

  • wtf!

  • lol thats some pilot. he should get side mirrors XD

  • economy is fucking up this airline ):

    anyway thats a pilot !!!

  • They must like burning a lot of fuel.

  • Thats called a "powerback" :o

  • Thats awesome. some airlines prohibit that, i think

    America West looks a bit lonely :(

  • Loved doing that in the NW Diesel 9! Will miss it though. Last time was about 7 years ago in DTW

  • They won't be doing that anymore. It's prohibited at Delta.

  • wow.. never seen that before....last time was with assistance in d.c. sucking snow .. was going to fla. but never made it...all the best....

  • America West

  • @Flightkid9 noo it's definitely called reverse thrust unless you're talking about PUSH BACK which is done with a push back tug pushing the plane.

  • lol

    Thats cool with a AN225!

    try it :P

  • extra gas use for nothing

  • Interesting. I didn't know they could back up using the reverse thrust. Doesn't look safe but I'm sure there is some procedure that is followed. Is that only on the jets with tail mounted engines? Or can planes like the 737, 757, 767, etc. do it too?

  • @636roadrunner it's called a powerback, it's only allowed on certain aircraft and the engines can't be wing mounted they have to be tail mounted (or else high up like the tail)

  • looks like a crashed MD-8X ^^

  • AA used to back up their 727s like this.

  • i like that back round music an the older nwa

  • Oh the good ole baby '9s. Sad to see the -30s and -40s go but atleast we still have the -50s for delta!

  • Can someone ask Gary Moore if he still got the blues?

  • I think I've only been on one plane that reversed itself away from the gate. It's been years and I don't remember which airport but I'm pretty sure it was an MD-80. Interesting experience. I think I liked it better than the tug pushing us back like normal.

  • oops.... wrong gate, i guess

  • Just throw her in reverse and back her out real easy. No backup alarm?

  • There was nothing I loved more then being on a NC, RC, or NW DC9-10 doing a power out!

  • why would it be unsafe if it was designed to do it...