history of andalucia

[topyoli]

¡al-Andalus zigue bibo e´Andaluzia! Nuehtrah cohtumbreh i lengua lo delata eh por ezo ke toabia eh marginaó por muxoh nazionalihtah Ehpañoleh! Ke noh taxan d´ihnorante i bagoh ke no zabemo ablá kahteyano kuando en realiá nunka l´abemó hexo! Tan ridikula eh la zituazió en mi paí ke muxoh Kahteyanoh pahlanteh oi en día zigloh d´impozizió nezezitan un traduhto pá la hente de l´interio e´mih tierrah. Kondió

[topyoli]

¡al- Andalus sigue vivo en Andalucía! Nuestras costumbres y lengua lo delata es por eso que todavía es marginado por muchos nacionalistas Españoles! Que nos tachan de ignorantes y vagos que no sabemos hablar Castellano cuando en realidad nunca lo hemos hecho!

Tan ridícula es la situación en mi país que muchos castellanos parlantes hoy en día después de siglos de imposición necesitan traductores para la gente del interior de mis tierras! Kondió

[ForeroFlower]

@bogarde515 Moroccans don't believe they have a right, many are not religous, they're one of most non religious countries. History and artifacts declare what happened. Morocco wasn't a country when berbers and damascan Arabs settled and spread. The spread was different people from many parts not Morocco they cant claim it only theirs. Andalu was open to many. I know my history and DNA just confirms it. That Arabs and Berbers was here and they did mix just like every other people before them.

[ForeroFlower]

@bogarde515 Oh i can't speak another language. I speak Spanish and english for your info. I may not speak el andalu like my parents because their spanish is regional and they're in their 60's they speak like those from their generation but u can ask me about anything cause my dad is right here next to me. I'm not Moroccan never been there. Send me your e-mail i can send you pics of me my family, brother so you can suffer because you want to believe the lies you contiunously put in your head.

[ForeroFlower]

you're ignorant because you cant descend from a religion a belief or partido, you can descend from the DNA of those who were there. If they came from those lands. That's what you're referring to and you can't cover it up what you want to believe in your head to a 700 year history that involved 1000's of people and unfortunately your descendents too, In your mind convince yourself that the sun is blue but history speaks millions know and you'll never erase that what you've erased in your head.

[ForeroFlower]

@bogarde515 Mi pare is Sevillano, mi mare is from Malaga, I chose to convert and both accepted without hate. Christianity is from Jews who detested their corrupted faith during the Roman Empire. No where is Iberia Christian every land descends from Pagans. Belief is something you accept but what's in your DNA you can't deny. Iberia is Celts, Visigoths, Romans, Jews, Arabs, Berbers, and Gypsies. Their belief has nothing to do with who roams the lands. Spain was Frankista now it's not your point?

[ForeroFlower]

@bogarde515 The first centuries that the Moros entered Iberia they didn't remain celibate. They repopulated the south, they reached southern France. They repopulated for 700 years. Those driven out were those who didn't accept the conversion into Christianity. Sephardim Jews were expelled as well. Anyone in Spain who's last name ends with the letter Z is descendents of Jews. Muslims who were not expelled converted to Christianity. Don't be ashamed from who you descend from cause it's the obvious

[purple007haze]

i wish if i lived there!

[almurabiton]

I miss you Abdalusia,the Land of Science,Arts, and Knowledge.Qordoba the Sister of Baghdad.what a wonderful Time!

[ylahumanidad]

Hi, Im andalusian and i am very proud of my history.

AL ANDALUS MUST BACK

FUCK SPAIN

[danielitaiyta]

I am amazed by such a wonderful place!!! Jews, Christians and Muslims all living together, sharing their traditions and music. It used to be a unique place. Too bad is over now. :(

[gerardk51]

@danielitaiyta .

You might find the following youtube vids enlightening:

The Myth of Al-Andalus. Jihad against Spain (and Portugal)

Robert Spencer The Myth of Islamic Tolerance and Peaceful Coexistence 1 (1 of 5)

[danielitaiyta]

@gerardk51 Wow.... that's really interesting and helpful thanks a lot for the information as soon as I have time I'll search it. ;)

[Infreakingcredible]

Would it not be fantastic if we could all just get along without a god making us divide ourselves into little factions?

[mcdudly00]

@Infreakingcredible we will divde out selfs anyways using anything possible ranging from bieng from earth to mars and all the way to who got the apple and who got the orange, its impossible for it not to happen because we are human

[nenu]

@Infreakingcredible it's fantastic... that's how Spain is nowadays... not like it used to be during the islamic rule... why do you think the jews and the christians living under muslim rulers financed the Reconquista?

[egyptianstrider2000]

Great

[LatinRomana]

Slim Yalla Yalla. The iberian peninsula was controlled and tamed by the Roman Empire. Then our Visgothic Barbarians over ran it and occupied the lands until the barbarians from the south (Muslims) wrongly set in for a take over.It is great that the Latin tongue and traditions triumphed during the dark times. Hasta luego Indiano.

[slimshadythe2nd]

@LatinRomana Spain was a dark place before muslims came. What would spain be today without oranges, olives, Palm trees, gardens, flamenco music, guitars, and beatiful architecture . Muslims brought all these things and knowledge of science. Spanish even has many Arabic loan words in it, take Algebra,almuerzo,alcabaza, for example.

[slimshadythe2nd]

al-Andalus was beautiful,it is too bad we lost it forever

[Q8ySenSen]

@slimshadythe2nd

not 4 ever brother :)

believe me not 4 ever !

[slimshadythe2nd]

@Q8ySenSen :) mabey, Allah will decide

[LatinRomana]

@slimshadythe2nd This is not about religion Sir. This is about Reconquista of La Tiera from the "outsiders" Arabs.Pecato

[slimshadythe2nd]

@LatinRomana everyone is an outsider in some way. Many of the muslims in Spain were not Arabs, they were Spainards who bacame Muslim. Many of the Christians in spain are visigoths who came from eastern Europe. but it doesnt matter either way.....

[LatinRomana]

@slimshadythe2nd History 101. The Roman aristocracy in Iberia numbered 4 million. Visygoth numbers were maybe 1 million (generous) Swabians included.When Moriscos arrived they had to force local populatios to submit to Islam. So many locals did due to threats of violence and became known as Moz Arabs there after to hardcore Arabs.This does matter in regards to to preservation of the Latin Race,Language core and customs in a vastly changing world.

[slimshadythe2nd]

@LatinRomana this contridicts all evidence and history. If the Moors forced the Christians to convert then why were there so many Christians and Jews living under Moorish rule. As soon as the Latins retook Spain they only brought the violent inquisition, millions of Muslims and jews were forced to convert to christianity or die. Many more were christians who were accused of heresy and burned alive. Spain is a great country today but much of its culture is Islamic.you cannot deny this.

[LatinRomana]

@slimshadythe2nd Christians and Jews had their costs of living taxed at a higher rate than Muslim immigrants.So populations converted to Islam for convenience only.The Spanish inquisition was the best thing to get rid of Arabs and Jews for good.Now in Spain today there is abundance and prosperity, so why doesn't the local population all convert to Islam like thousands did in 7th Century ? In no way am i denying Arabs influenced Spain.The people wanted a Latin Lifestyle over an Arabic wreched one

[slimshadythe2nd]

@LatinRomana And how do you know the people wanted a Latin lifestyle, if so, then why did the Church have to force Spinairds to give up muslim influence? And why is getting rid of Arabs and Jews good after they contribubted so much. The Tax system was rarely implemented, and those who converted were not true christians in the first place if they easily converted for convienence. Why is the Arab lifestyle wretched? Science, music, poetry, and tolerance does not sound that bad to me.

[LatinRomana]

@slimshadythe2nd The majority chose and were granted a latin lifestyle or today there would still be Arabs living there in masses.The Mozarabs are the "So called Spaniards" you talk about. The Arabs did have science,music,poetry ect. however only the ruling elite knew of this and Arabs had a habbit of borrowing vast knowledge from other conquered territories. Wake up, Indiano Andare.

[LatinRomana]

@slimshadythe2nd Spain was a place of life during Roman times.There were olives and olive oil, introduced, from Rome's conquered lands.The dark ages in Europe was due to the empires gradual collapse. There is a word called 'Sharing' of resources on this planet so that is what the next power "Islam" did. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that. The arabic loan words in the Castillian Spanish mean nothing. The Reconquista movement was implemented and completed for a reason.VIVA LA RASA.

[nenu]

@slimshadythe2nd it's not lost, it's been improved