Jesus is satan .Obviously jesus would be the last person you would think is satan.But jesus is the best hand satan has to control your mind! The least resistence to do so!Why would satan let jesus steal his glory everyday in church's! Unless he had something to gain.If we believe the bible satan rules the world and satan is the most sublte of all creatures.He needs to be worshiped,thats where we come in!Jesus is going to be used to usher in the new age seamlessly and satan will use his I.D.
@RebelAllianceMedia LOL, awww why we humans don't understand what we can't see. I can tell you who don't exist Jesus but I'm not going to get into all that! Have a bless day!
Spirits don't have physical hands and "back parts", nor do they require that excrement be buried so they won't physically stumble across it while walking through an area.
Yahweh physically travelled amongst the Israelites in pillars of cloud and fire. He repeatedly parked his pillar by Moses' tent and spoke to Moses face-to-face. In Deuteronomy 23:12-14 the Israelites are instructed to bury their urine and feces in the ground when they're finished because Yahweh occasionally walks through their camps. In Exodus 33:20-23 Yahweh is depicted as a physical being with hands to cover Moses' eyes so Moses will only see Yahweh's back parts.
lmao how comepltely and utter stupid the who made this video is...
the other gods that were being worshipped equated themselves as the most high, they set themsleves up to be worshipped as the supreme gods...all the panthoens were the same gods just with different names.
the egyptians worshipped baal as ra.
enlil, zues, jupiter...they are all the same muthafuckin deity.
they were rebelious angels that set themselves up as gods to be woshipped.
Speaking of idiots, the Egyptians didn't worship Baal as Ra and the two gods aren't even similar. Unlike the Israelites, the Egyptians were older than the Canaanites and didn't have steal Canaanite mythology and imitate their gods. But you're partially right. Enlil, Zeus, Jupiter are all the same muthafuckin' deity. Which made it easy for the Israelites to copy them and create YHWH. Much later, of course.
yahweh is jupiter god of rome . not yahuwah ` phoenician alphabet vav is wau or waw . yod + he=yah + wau= yahuw + he= yahuwah . yahweh is the god of rome . yahuwah is god hebrew . in yahweh is not the of the torah .
yahweh is not god in not yod he waw he , yahuwah is yod he waw he in yahweh is jupiter not yahuwah yod + he= yah +waw +yahuw+ he =yahuwah in paleo hebrew the vav is waw . in alef in lamed is not el but al .you idiot
I Am White a dark white but still white, does that disqualify my belief in the true god? I know all about Paul and Yahweh and his consorts but can I be a follower of the true god?
Interesting video but its not strong enough to convince me I'm afraid lol
There is too much evidence of an after life with all these evil spirits in existence. The OuiJi Board for instance, and evidence caught on camera fro all to see. But why would the people who made this video (regardless of colour cos colour is decieving) use the Baphomet symbol as part of it image ?
Below is a quick source from a book I have regarding your allegation that this coin presented in this video depicts (Yah)(w). It refutes and debunks your allegation regarding this Ugarit coin.
The formative -yw in some personal names from Ugarit (ca. 14th century B.C.) is not a divine element and has no connection with the name Yahweh." (Henry O. Thompson, "Yahweh."pp. 1011-1012. Vol. 6. David Noel Freedman. Editor. Anchor Bible Dictionary. New York. Doubleday. 1992)
The video never says those characters are the tetragrammaton. This is something you are making up on your own. Along with your understanding of the "Phoenician" language, apparently. That is not Yaw.
@Iannes33 I know the video doesn't specifically say those symbols qoute the tetragrammaton. But the video at part 5:23 uses the coin to try to claim or draw a relation between Yaw which the coin states and (Yah)(w) quoted in Dan 7.
Secondly those letter are YW. Do at least two minutes of research on this coin. Its the known as the " 4th Century BC Persian Coin". Those letters are Phoenician. What are you talking? I'm sure your one of those Khemite idiots. Who can't provide proof against YHWH.
The video says nothing about Yaw nor is that Yaw on the coin. I know exactly what the coin is. As well as the name of the coin. Next time, try doing more than "2 minutes of research" if you're going to continually try to correct things that aren't incorrrect.
@Iannes33 But the video tries to draw a claim which was debunked years ago by scholars in relation the coin. I could refute this whole video with in half an hour.
You could probably make more erroneous claims within a half an hour, but you can't debunk this video anymore than you can read "Phoenician". I suspect the best you could do is what you've done so far on both the videos I've seen you comment on: which is give emotion-based denials of the facts because they conflict with your faulty religious beliefs.
@Iannes33 All my claims are based on scholar sources. Not some Madame Blavantsky occultic book where these guys get all there arguments from.
The claims that (Yah)(w) was egyptian, sumerian, and then canaanite have all been refuted years ago. The OT itself refutes these allegations. Yet people still are trying to push a lie which has already been debunked. I don't make videos because people are already refuting these Gnostic allegations against the OT. These videos are weak attacks.
Your claims are based on nothing more than your religious wish that they were true. And to make the statement that Yahweh being copied from other gods was "refuted years ago" is simply ridiculous. The reality of Yahweh being based on earlier gods is something acknowledged even stronger the more modern your source is.
@Iannes33 It was refuted years ago. I can show many scholars who have debunked the various Gnostic allegations and assertions against the Bible. I can give various ways why allegations such as "(Yah)(w) is Baal, and (Yah)(w) is a Egyptian god is false. For example Jos 24:2-3 refutes those allegations.
Gnostics will also claim the "Hebrews stole from the Sumerians & Egyptians". But they never explain how unlikely it is for a culture to steal from two. It isn't like Egypt was the first culture.
Like I said, you just make religious claims that you wish were true. If you don't know what scholarship has to say about Yahweh's origins then you shouldn't try to make it up, especially when speaking to people who actually do know what scholarship has to say about Yahweh's origins. And since you've diverted from the actual points on the video twice now(once going into the unrelated topic of Yaw, now to Gnostics of all things), you don't seem to have a real argument here.
"Like I said, you just make religious claims that you wish were true."
What religious claims that I WISH were true have I made? What does your comment have anything to do with providing factual evidence to support your claims against (Yah)(w).
Why would you want to worship idols such as Atum who masturbates in his on mouth? Egyptology is a homosexual religion you must admit.
+What religious claims that I WISH were true have I made?+
1. That the "Ugarit coin"(as you called it) depicts Yaw rather than Yahweh
2. That scholarship refutes Yahweh's being based on earlier gods
As for Atum,being the follower of a primitive sky god and the simplistic religion of sheepherders, you're failure to grasp complex spiritual metaphors is expected. But your misunderstanding of Atum has nothing to do with this subject, again. Since you have no real argument I'll leave off here.
If you had any sort of knowledge. You would be well aware that the Ugarit coin, does not depict or have anything to do with the deity (Yah)(w). It isn't just scholar ship but the HEBREW BIBLE itself refutes the claim that (Yah)(w) is based on earlier gods. Which is why I told you to read Jos 24:2-3. Notice you avoid it. Its because (Yah)(w) is cutting you with his truth. I don't misunderstand Atum. The hieroglyphic speaks for itself. Plus he committed incest with his daughter.
@RebelAlliance, The coin presented in this video where as you claim represented Yah(w). Is a total lack of knowing how to read words in the Phoenicia. Those symbols do not present the holy tetragram.
This coin only reveals two symbols. Which are YW. It would spell out as Yaw. Which is a Canaanite fertility deity. Please stop making videos trying to attack the name of Yah(w). When you lack knowing how to read the Semitic dialects properly.
Lucifer - the Light Bearer rebelled against the Most High God - YHWH and became the prince of this earth. He and his followers are the other gods with a little "g" mentioned all through the Bible. They were perverse and not righteous. Because of a covenant YHWH made with one righteous man, Abraham, the Isrealites overcame many mighty nations. Although some men that translated our Bibles have played trickery on words, the Word lines up with history.
Lucifer the light bearer is a Latin god. He does not exist in biblical mythology. The name "Lucifer" appears one time in the KJ Bible due to a bad translation that has since been removed in later versions. In the Old Testament, there is no rebellion in heaven. The lowercase gods in the Bible are the sons of El, as was originally shown in Deut. 32:8 before the verse was altered in the KJV.
@Iannes33 "Sons of Israel" is actually from the Masoretic Text, not originating in the KJV. Dig deeper so your research is legit. You are right, however, on that passage should read as "sons of God." However, that's a reference to God's holy angels. See Job 1:6. In the OT God calls His holy angels His sons. And yes, the OT and Hebrew writings do allude to a heavenly angelic rebellion. See Isaiah 14:12; Ezekiel 28; Book of Daniel; Book of Enoch; Dead Sea Scrolls; Jewish Encyclopedia & Art.
There is no mention of an angel rebellion in the OT. Isaiah and Ezekiel speak of the kings of Babylon and Tyrus "rebelling" by acquiring power. The Dead Sea Scrolls/Book of Enoch aren't part of the OT. The book of Enoch is a Greco-Judaic text that came later from the Israelites adopting the Greek myths of the war between the gods in heaven. There is no such war in the OT, where YHWH has total control over his angels and Satan is never kicked out or depicted as YHWH's enemy.
Are you talking to me? If so, it would be difficult if not impossible to extensively source all this into a YouTube video format. The video is just to introduce people to the information and make it easy to study on their own. *points to the vid description*
But comment pages are another story, so if you need a source for anything I can give it to you here.
@Iannes33 I was not specifically talking to you Iannes, but if you want list all the sources used (outside) of the bible for the info presented in this video then that is ok by me and dates or time periods would also be helpful thanks :)
Ugaritic civilization is dated to have come to an end around 1200 BC. Most if not all of the info on the Ugaritic gods in the video comes from a collection of myths usually called the "Baal Epic" or "Baal Cycle". For the translation info and word occurences I used a Strong's concordance.
This video is the equivalent of a left hook to the kidney from a young Mike Tyson in his prime. For me, this is the single most important video ever posted on YouTube.
thats not the name , and it aint no damn enyeh asher enyeh believe or not you fucking edomite(white) . edomites call him yahweh. I dont give a fuck if u dont believe it or not Mrmushit!
yes i am a christan but the kind u are talking about . i am from the tribe of judah, so yes, i am a follower the anointed(christ) u red edomite bitch.
first of all stupid bitch , i dont deal with religion , this is nationality. being a israelite is nationality. like i said i am not the ind your talking about. i am of judah , christ was of judah. the judahites(negros) are the original christans.
@tazaqwa777, In the previous comment below you stated "yes I am a Christian". How can you be a Christian but yet claim you aren't. When you just claimed you were?
i am done talking to u , im wayy out of your league. ur not gonna get it anyway.its nationalitttty , not religion, i dont worship the sun like those false christians
@tazaqwa777, Your the one acting retarded. You said you were a Christian below in a previous commnt. Now your saying your not a Christian. Please learn how to explain what your trying to say more clearer.
dahh u fuckig retard , those so called christans are not really christans they are demon worshipers. this is nation not religion. i didnt say i wasnt a christian retard, i said not like those sun worshipers.and u want me to explain ok.send another.
@tazaqwa777, Youve just shown your retardedness. What in the world is "fuckig"??? Please learn how to spell all your doing is showing the world why many don't believe Black Americans are the true jews.
@tazaqwa777, How am I off subject. Your making the statement that " Judah were followers of Christ". I am correcting you based on the evidence ive found proving that Judah never worshiped Christ.
@tazaqwa777 From your below statement "look the israelites of judah were followers of christ the anointed" it could be seen that you meant worship when you used the word "followers".
ok, look the israelites of judah were followers of christ the anointed, the word christian means follower of the anointed. the followers of the anointed are the judahites(so called negros), and i am a so called negro , so im a christan , u see now? this doesnt have any thing to do with the religion
@tazaqwa777, The ancient Hebrews were not called Christians nor were they Christians. Moses and all Hebrews in that day worshiped Yahweh (the father).
TAZAQWA777, you wrote "I don't deal with religion". But shouldn't a true Christian, as you claim to be, concern himself with issues of religion? Shouldn't he strive to make his religion pure and undefiled? Shouldn't he try to avoid vain religion?
I look forward to your thoughts on these questions.
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee look u are wayyy off my level. first of all the most high and his son didnt give the israelites religion, he gave them laws statutes and commandments. the true christians are the judites(so called american blacks) , the followers of the anointed one(christ). the one you call god dont deal with religion , all religion are of satan , brings confusion. the word religion comes from the latin religio which means to hold back . the judites are the original christans.
TAZQWA, I asked if you think Christians should be concerned that their religion is pure and undefiled rather than vain, and you claimed that God doesn't deal with religion. So I would ask you, how do you understand James 1:26-27, which states that if a man does not bridle his tongue, and deceives himself, "this man's RELIGION is vain," and which adds that "pure RELIGION" constitutes keeping oneself unspotted?
By the way, you seemed to think I'm a Muslim. "MaseeHee" means Christians in Arabic.
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee did u understand what the hell said. the most high dont deal with religions , they are all of man not him , and of satan. look christaninty up , u find out that so called chhristans worship teh sun(SUn day worship).u dont even understand the meaning of that scripture too , heathan. i dont know either because im still learning but u dont know the meaning.all religion is vain , all come from the head church(catholic church).
TAZAQWA, yes, indeed, you did assert that "the Most High don't deal with religions," but why should anyone believe your assertion? I showed you what the Scriptures actually say about religion (i.e. some religion is vain but religion can be pure and undefiled), and you basically ignored it. Do you have any Scripture to back up your claim that "the Most High don't deal with religions"? Where's that in the Scriptures?
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee I dont give if u dont believe me , u are a damn heathan ishamelite, the most high aint dealing no damn heathans. like i u dont understand the breakdown of that scripture ishmael.
TAZAQWA, you're merely putting your own frustrations on display here. I showed what the Scriptures actually state, while you seem to be hoping people just take your word for it. When it is shown that your claims are in conflict with what the Bible states, you switch to making speculations about who is and is not a "heathen".
As for this "Ishmaelite" charge, I doubt you know anything about my paternal lineage, so avoid bearing false witness. If you have a problem with Arabic, read Acts 2:11.
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee like i said u damn ishmaelite heathan u are a fool , u dont know what that scripture means. u are a arab(ishmael). this is my last message , im not fanna waste my time on a heathan sun worshiper who don t know shit.
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee all of religion is of man not the most high ok. that damn islam worships a damn rock called the kaba. and allah is a moon god.all religion is vain in the sight of the most high. the one u call god is only dealing with the israelites. that crescent moon star thing is a symbol of witchcraft. all of u muslims are witches. matterfact that symbol predates islam. all of these religions come from the catholic church. the quran is a damn fairytale.
of course I did, why do yu think Im commenting? all it is is mythology mixed with reality, why do yu think they categorized Zeus, and Hadad as mythology? a myth is not real, and Yahweh has always been the fisrt and the last, and if yu do your research you will find that the earth is very young, meaning those mythical gods never existed before him, read the dictionary and encyclopedia whenever yu get the chance or go buy one if yu dont have one, or search online.. the truth is there.
Firstly, the Bible's timelines are an absolute joke. They aren't even consistent with each other, much less history or geology. Secondly, Yahweh is no more "reality" than Zeus. The Bible is mythology too. Worse, because it's not even original mytholgy. It's a later knock-off.
You'd have better chances of the tooth fairy leaving you a quarter under your pillow than you would of Yahweh doing anything for you. To prove the Bible is mythology all you have to do is read it. As soon as you open the first book in it you get hit with a mythological creation story that never happened.
the creation stated in the bible is not mythology, evolution is mythology, and the rest of the bible did happen, the bible was written in 11 different ways. you being a non-believer would not think of that, therefore you cannot understand anything that is written in the bible, for example parables, visions, etc. all of those are metaphors, I suggest you give up while your ahead, you will never be able to prove me wrong, trust me on that.
Yes, I'm familiar with the "whenever the Bible says something silly or wrong, pretend only believers can magically understand it" claim. Good luck with that.
thats not what I mean, you have to break down the words in the bible before you except it as real or fake, you can't just read it and say " oh this is false, nothing like that can ever happen" you have to come to understand why it was written in that form, theres a really big reason why it was written like that, its meant for this generation to decipher it and understand it.
the hebrews were educated by the sons of ham. EGYPT & CANAAN. ACT7:22 & old hebrew came from the canaanite dialect. their religion also came from them. hebrews borrowed mostly everything they know from other cultures.
This is all basically zeitgeist propaganda with a new dope hook to it. Explain then,how did the Bible prophesy that in the end times (now) there'd be increased earthquakes? How did they know over 2,000 years ago about a 1 world government forming? What about the plagues (pestilences)? How is it fake there? Other predictions that didnt happen yet-Damascus utterly destroyed by fire? plus many more, how is something thats 100% accurate, false? I hope you rethink things, but pride is a bit...
The Bible prophesies that the End Times would arrive during the lives of the current audience, not that the End Times were would be in 2009. The same chapter that says earthquakes would be increased also said that this is coming so soon that those presently living and hearing the prophesy would still be alive when it happened. Obviously, the Bible was wrong. But it's wrong alot, so that's nothing particularly special.
IAANES33, REBELALLIANCE is trying to connect a COIN as a depiction of YAHWEH when it was of BAAL and not Yahweh. That is nothing but ICONOGRAPHY. YAHWEH and BAAL are described in the same fashion as elderly and black. But Yahweh had no image. So this coin is not a representation of him.
That is the YHD coin. It is regarded as an image of Yahweh. There are also other images of Yahweh with inscriptions right on them saying that it's Yahweh. So he certainly had an image.
no , its not you stupid bitch it is what i said it was. there is no damn j v e o or u in the original hebrew the hebrew they call paleo , the ancient hebrew. it is not yahweh! or yahshua yahoshua etc
IANNES33, A few minutes ago you stated the following...
"If you have a depiction of Yahweh with an inscription telling you by name that its Yahweh... how do the commandments prove that it's not Yahweh?"
Now you've switched from that claim and not have asserted that it doesn't say Yahweh on it. So how can you claim that its Yahweh if the name doesn't appear on the coin?
I didn't switch. You said Yahweh didn't have an image. Then I said "that is the YHD coin. It is regarded as an image of Yahweh. There are also other images of Yahweh with inscriptions right on them saying that it's Yahweh.". I'm name isn't needed every time to identify something. The context and the image itself can identify it. As you could probably recognize a picture of Zeus or Osiris without a name.
IANNES33, You did switch your argument. You asserted that the coin is a depication of Yahweh. Then claimed it doesn't have his name on it. If it doesn't have his name on it how can you determine that its Yahweh?
My assertion of the coin was "It is regarded as an image of Yahweh". Alongside that assertion I also pointed out to you that there are numerous depictions specifically identified by name. That is not a switch, that is my original statement. And I just covered your question about how an image can be identified without a name.
IANNES, But the commandments states "Thou shall not make a graven image" of anything in heaven. So how can you determine if this is Yahweh or not. If his name isn't on the coin and if he discredits graven images in the commandments?
These are not "my" claims. The people of Jerusalem themselves depicted Yahweh and inscribed him by name on these depictions. You are assuming this particular tradition of no one seeing Yahweh's face was shared in all places at all times, when we know this mythology developed and changed sharply over time.
IANNES33, Once again the commandments state to not create or errect of image of Yahweh. The Bible clearly states that Yahweh has never been seen before. So how can this drawing be Yahweh?
You are trying to superimpose a religious development of Yahweh mythology onto the issue as though this mythology is unchanged and consistent throughout Israelite history. It's not. We see in Judges ch.17 that graven images were made for Yahweh. We know it's a depiction of Yahweh at Ajrud because it says so right on it's inscription. So I'm not really sure why you're attempting to make this depiction of Yahweh not be Yahweh despite the clear fact that it is.
IANNES, Your trying to insist that Yahweh had an image when that goes against Biblical tradition. You then attempt to use a source and its nothing but drawings on a white board. Thats not evidence/
1. It's not a drawing on a board. It's also an unambivalent image of Yahweh.
2. The person who carved that image would know more about contemporary Judaism then you would.
3. Biblical tradition changes throughout the Bible.
4. I also gave you a biblical example of images being made to Yahweh
These are the facts of the situation. How you reconsile the known fact that images of Yahweh were made with your religion is up to you, but it is what it is.
I have no idea what photo you're talking about, but the name is written on the carving. It's Yahweh. That's not really up for debate so there's no reason to keep going back and forth about it anymore really.
MrMusik93, Consider this... Abraham worshiped Yahweh and Abraham's father worshiped Baal. Baal was the god of the Canaanites. That's another clue that Baal was different from Yahweh. Baal came along with a series of dieties to worship.
yea, they were "false gods" if yu do your research yu would also know that, your trying to make your statement true by saying things from the bible that have nothing to do with what yu are talking about. Now if yu look back into history yu will see that Idol worship is the worship of Lucifer's angels (fallen angels) who fell with him to earth.
MrMusik93, Abraham's father worshiped gods. If you do research on the city of which Abraham and his father lived. You would know that many people their worshiped Baal.
What are you talking about worship of lucifer's angels?
MsMusik93, Ive heard of your theory before about Genesis 6 describing the same dieties the Sumerians called Anunnaki being the same as the Nephilim and worshiped. However my argument was mainly focused on the letters of the coin.
Sirius, the video doesn't say that Yahweh and Hadad are the same god. It says that Yahweh is based in large part on Ba'al mythology and shows the evidence of this in the Bible. And I'd like to see what verse says that Terah worshipped BA'AL.
Iannes, I know what this video states. It says that El is Yahweh's father. Which is bogus for the simple fact that the E sourse is new and only appears in newer translations of the Old Testament. Show me a scripture when Yahweh says Baal is his father.
Sirius, what are you talking about? Where in this video does it say Ba'al is Yahweh's father? And what verse says that Terah(Abraham's father) worshipped Hadad? It sounds like you're getting yourself confused.
I don't want to shock you or anything, but the only one that's said anything about "Yaw" is you. You need to improve your own research rather than speaking on others'.
your "rebel alliance video" LOGO says it all...
PRAISEIAM 1 month ago
Jesus is satan .Obviously jesus would be the last person you would think is satan.But jesus is the best hand satan has to control your mind! The least resistence to do so!Why would satan let jesus steal his glory everyday in church's! Unless he had something to gain.If we believe the bible satan rules the world and satan is the most sublte of all creatures.He needs to be worshiped,thats where we come in!Jesus is going to be used to usher in the new age seamlessly and satan will use his I.D.
infonator1 3 months ago
"physical" as in the flesh, which no one then has never seen YHWH, I know about the fire etc. It's still spiritual!
MsDarkskinFLA 3 months ago
@MsDarkskinFLA You are right, because yhwh does not exist!
RebelAllianceMedia 3 months ago
@RebelAllianceMedia LOL, awww why we humans don't understand what we can't see. I can tell you who don't exist Jesus but I'm not going to get into all that! Have a bless day!
MsDarkskinFLA 3 months ago
@MsDarkskinFLA
Spirits don't have physical hands and "back parts", nor do they require that excrement be buried so they won't physically stumble across it while walking through an area.
Iannes33 3 months ago
Disagree, YHWH was with them in spirit not flesh!
MsDarkskinFLA 4 months ago
@MsDarkskinFLA
Yahweh physically travelled amongst the Israelites in pillars of cloud and fire. He repeatedly parked his pillar by Moses' tent and spoke to Moses face-to-face. In Deuteronomy 23:12-14 the Israelites are instructed to bury their urine and feces in the ground when they're finished because Yahweh occasionally walks through their camps. In Exodus 33:20-23 Yahweh is depicted as a physical being with hands to cover Moses' eyes so Moses will only see Yahweh's back parts.
Iannes33 3 months ago
@MsDarkskinFLA YHWH is described as a physical being in the Bible and NOT spirit.
jamal7israel 1 month ago
@jamal7israel huh? That was like 2 months ago....LOL but okay what ever you say huh! :-)
MsDarkskinFLA 1 month ago
I disagree with your claims. When you have a moment check this link out:
herealittletherealittle(dot)net/index(dot)cfm?page_name=Demons
GizmoChicho 4 months ago
lmao how comepltely and utter stupid the who made this video is...
the other gods that were being worshipped equated themselves as the most high, they set themsleves up to be worshipped as the supreme gods...all the panthoens were the same gods just with different names.
the egyptians worshipped baal as ra.
enlil, zues, jupiter...they are all the same muthafuckin deity.
they were rebelious angels that set themselves up as gods to be woshipped.
u dumb idiot.
EdomIsMarked4Death 8 months ago
@EdomIsMarked4Death finally, some sense here....good on u! Truth will prevail!
God Bless :)
shocktalk1 7 months ago
@EdomIsMarked4Death LOL. Preach it! They will never see the Light and continue in darkness.
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Speaking of idiots, the Egyptians didn't worship Baal as Ra and the two gods aren't even similar. Unlike the Israelites, the Egyptians were older than the Canaanites and didn't have steal Canaanite mythology and imitate their gods. But you're partially right. Enlil, Zeus, Jupiter are all the same muthafuckin' deity. Which made it easy for the Israelites to copy them and create YHWH. Much later, of course.
Iannes33 4 months ago
yahuwah is the name of yod he wau he lock phoenician in paleo hebrew. yahweh is not the god of the torah or bible .yahuwah lock on net or youtube
MultiCluclu 11 months ago
yahweh is jupiter god of rome . not yahuwah ` phoenician alphabet vav is wau or waw . yod + he=yah + wau= yahuw + he= yahuwah . yahweh is the god of rome . yahuwah is god hebrew . in yahweh is not the of the torah .
MultiCluclu 11 months ago
yahweh is not god in not yod he waw he , yahuwah is yod he waw he in yahweh is jupiter not yahuwah yod + he= yah +waw +yahuw+ he =yahuwah in paleo hebrew the vav is waw . in alef in lamed is not el but al .you idiot
MultiCluclu 11 months ago
@MultiCluclu Why idiot though?
RebelAllianceMedia 11 months ago
@MultiCluclu You never answered him. Why idiot ?
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truthhitmanisback 5 months ago
I Am White a dark white but still white, does that disqualify my belief in the true god? I know all about Paul and Yahweh and his consorts but can I be a follower of the true god?
MrsKevinsmith 1 year ago
@MrsKevinsmith I see nothing wrong with following yourself! You are the truth, you create your own reality!
RebelAllianceMedia 1 year ago
Interesting video but its not strong enough to convince me I'm afraid lol
There is too much evidence of an after life with all these evil spirits in existence. The OuiJi Board for instance, and evidence caught on camera fro all to see. But why would the people who made this video (regardless of colour cos colour is decieving) use the Baphomet symbol as part of it image ?
truthhitmanisback 1 year ago
@truthhitmanisback This video is illustrating the pagan titles, primarily The Most High". So what are you talking about???
RebelAllianceMedia 1 year ago
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truthhitmanisback 1 year ago
@RebelAllianceMedia OK... I hear you. I can't knock the truth ! Do you know the origin of the name Ehyeh ?
truthhitmanisback 5 months ago
Below is a quick source from a book I have regarding your allegation that this coin presented in this video depicts (Yah)(w). It refutes and debunks your allegation regarding this Ugarit coin.
The formative -yw in some personal names from Ugarit (ca. 14th century B.C.) is not a divine element and has no connection with the name Yahweh." (Henry O. Thompson, "Yahweh."pp. 1011-1012. Vol. 6. David Noel Freedman. Editor. Anchor Bible Dictionary. New York. Doubleday. 1992)
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@beholdtheageofold
The video never says those characters are the tetragrammaton. This is something you are making up on your own. Along with your understanding of the "Phoenician" language, apparently. That is not Yaw.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 I know the video doesn't specifically say those symbols qoute the tetragrammaton. But the video at part 5:23 uses the coin to try to claim or draw a relation between Yaw which the coin states and (Yah)(w) quoted in Dan 7.
Secondly those letter are YW. Do at least two minutes of research on this coin. Its the known as the " 4th Century BC Persian Coin". Those letters are Phoenician. What are you talking? I'm sure your one of those Khemite idiots. Who can't provide proof against YHWH.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@beholdtheageofold
The video says nothing about Yaw nor is that Yaw on the coin. I know exactly what the coin is. As well as the name of the coin. Next time, try doing more than "2 minutes of research" if you're going to continually try to correct things that aren't incorrrect.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 But the video tries to draw a claim which was debunked years ago by scholars in relation the coin. I could refute this whole video with in half an hour.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@beholdtheageofold
You could probably make more erroneous claims within a half an hour, but you can't debunk this video anymore than you can read "Phoenician". I suspect the best you could do is what you've done so far on both the videos I've seen you comment on: which is give emotion-based denials of the facts because they conflict with your faulty religious beliefs.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 All my claims are based on scholar sources. Not some Madame Blavantsky occultic book where these guys get all there arguments from.
The claims that (Yah)(w) was egyptian, sumerian, and then canaanite have all been refuted years ago. The OT itself refutes these allegations. Yet people still are trying to push a lie which has already been debunked. I don't make videos because people are already refuting these Gnostic allegations against the OT. These videos are weak attacks.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@beholdtheageofold
Your claims are based on nothing more than your religious wish that they were true. And to make the statement that Yahweh being copied from other gods was "refuted years ago" is simply ridiculous. The reality of Yahweh being based on earlier gods is something acknowledged even stronger the more modern your source is.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 It was refuted years ago. I can show many scholars who have debunked the various Gnostic allegations and assertions against the Bible. I can give various ways why allegations such as "(Yah)(w) is Baal, and (Yah)(w) is a Egyptian god is false. For example Jos 24:2-3 refutes those allegations.
Gnostics will also claim the "Hebrews stole from the Sumerians & Egyptians". But they never explain how unlikely it is for a culture to steal from two. It isn't like Egypt was the first culture.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@beholdtheageofold
Like I said, you just make religious claims that you wish were true. If you don't know what scholarship has to say about Yahweh's origins then you shouldn't try to make it up, especially when speaking to people who actually do know what scholarship has to say about Yahweh's origins. And since you've diverted from the actual points on the video twice now(once going into the unrelated topic of Yaw, now to Gnostics of all things), you don't seem to have a real argument here.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33
"Like I said, you just make religious claims that you wish were true."
What religious claims that I WISH were true have I made? What does your comment have anything to do with providing factual evidence to support your claims against (Yah)(w).
Why would you want to worship idols such as Atum who masturbates in his on mouth? Egyptology is a homosexual religion you must admit.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
+What religious claims that I WISH were true have I made?+
1. That the "Ugarit coin"(as you called it) depicts Yaw rather than Yahweh
2. That scholarship refutes Yahweh's being based on earlier gods
As for Atum,being the follower of a primitive sky god and the simplistic religion of sheepherders, you're failure to grasp complex spiritual metaphors is expected. But your misunderstanding of Atum has nothing to do with this subject, again. Since you have no real argument I'll leave off here.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33
If you had any sort of knowledge. You would be well aware that the Ugarit coin, does not depict or have anything to do with the deity (Yah)(w). It isn't just scholar ship but the HEBREW BIBLE itself refutes the claim that (Yah)(w) is based on earlier gods. Which is why I told you to read Jos 24:2-3. Notice you avoid it. Its because (Yah)(w) is cutting you with his truth. I don't misunderstand Atum. The hieroglyphic speaks for itself. Plus he committed incest with his daughter.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
@RebelAlliance, The coin presented in this video where as you claim represented Yah(w). Is a total lack of knowing how to read words in the Phoenicia. Those symbols do not present the holy tetragram.
This coin only reveals two symbols. Which are YW. It would spell out as Yaw. Which is a Canaanite fertility deity. Please stop making videos trying to attack the name of Yah(w). When you lack knowing how to read the Semitic dialects properly.
beholdtheageofold 1 year ago
Lucifer - the Light Bearer rebelled against the Most High God - YHWH and became the prince of this earth. He and his followers are the other gods with a little "g" mentioned all through the Bible. They were perverse and not righteous. Because of a covenant YHWH made with one righteous man, Abraham, the Isrealites overcame many mighty nations. Although some men that translated our Bibles have played trickery on words, the Word lines up with history.
Yhwhforme 1 year ago
Lucifer the light bearer is a Latin god. He does not exist in biblical mythology. The name "Lucifer" appears one time in the KJ Bible due to a bad translation that has since been removed in later versions. In the Old Testament, there is no rebellion in heaven. The lowercase gods in the Bible are the sons of El, as was originally shown in Deut. 32:8 before the verse was altered in the KJV.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 "Sons of Israel" is actually from the Masoretic Text, not originating in the KJV. Dig deeper so your research is legit. You are right, however, on that passage should read as "sons of God." However, that's a reference to God's holy angels. See Job 1:6. In the OT God calls His holy angels His sons. And yes, the OT and Hebrew writings do allude to a heavenly angelic rebellion. See Isaiah 14:12; Ezekiel 28; Book of Daniel; Book of Enoch; Dead Sea Scrolls; Jewish Encyclopedia & Art.
GizmoChicho 4 months ago
@GizmoChicho
There is no mention of an angel rebellion in the OT. Isaiah and Ezekiel speak of the kings of Babylon and Tyrus "rebelling" by acquiring power. The Dead Sea Scrolls/Book of Enoch aren't part of the OT. The book of Enoch is a Greco-Judaic text that came later from the Israelites adopting the Greek myths of the war between the gods in heaven. There is no such war in the OT, where YHWH has total control over his angels and Satan is never kicked out or depicted as YHWH's enemy.
Iannes33 4 months ago
For future reference please site every source of information :)
I mean if you want a true debate one cannot hide his sources !!!!
1111GENESIS 1 year ago
@1111GENESIS
Are you talking to me? If so, it would be difficult if not impossible to extensively source all this into a YouTube video format. The video is just to introduce people to the information and make it easy to study on their own. *points to the vid description*
But comment pages are another story, so if you need a source for anything I can give it to you here.
Iannes33 1 year ago
@Iannes33 I was not specifically talking to you Iannes, but if you want list all the sources used (outside) of the bible for the info presented in this video then that is ok by me and dates or time periods would also be helpful thanks :)
1111GENESIS 1 year ago
@1111GENESIS
Ugaritic civilization is dated to have come to an end around 1200 BC. Most if not all of the info on the Ugaritic gods in the video comes from a collection of myths usually called the "Baal Epic" or "Baal Cycle". For the translation info and word occurences I used a Strong's concordance.
Iannes33 1 year ago
This video is the equivalent of a left hook to the kidney from a young Mike Tyson in his prime. For me, this is the single most important video ever posted on YouTube.
Tr0ijay 1 year ago
@Tr0ijay
Thanks. It's surprising how seldom this information is spoken of.
Iannes33 1 year ago
How can you debunk Satan and the majority of his esoteric followers?
2reasons 2 years ago
What do you mean?
Iannes33 2 years ago
thats not the name , and it aint no damn enyeh asher enyeh believe or not you fucking edomite(white) . edomites call him yahweh. I dont give a fuck if u dont believe it or not Mrmushit!
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
Im not white, and wut the hell are yu talking about????
MrMusik93 2 years ago
???
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
I mean absolutely no offense
MrMusik93 2 years ago
I am black, wut yu are stating is not a fact, yu are suffering from brain death (necrosis).
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Who called you white?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
tazaqwa777
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Im not tazaqwa777
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
I know, I was telling yu who said that
MrMusik93 2 years ago
@MrMusik93 Oh ... who cares man! Just ignore them don't let these ignorant Christians who claim to be Israelites make you mad.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
yes i am a christan but the kind u are talking about . i am from the tribe of judah, so yes, i am a follower the anointed(christ) u red edomite bitch.
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, You cant be two religions at one time. So how are you a Israelite and Christian lol.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
first of all stupid bitch , i dont deal with religion , this is nationality. being a israelite is nationality. like i said i am not the ind your talking about. i am of judah , christ was of judah. the judahites(negros) are the original christans.
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, In the previous comment below you stated "yes I am a Christian". How can you be a Christian but yet claim you aren't. When you just claimed you were?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
i am done talking to u , im wayy out of your league. ur not gonna get it anyway.its nationalitttty , not religion, i dont worship the sun like those false christians
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, thanks for agreeing to your defeat. Your just another person who can't defend their faith.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, You made the statement "I am Christian" but yet you say I don't worship the sun like christians. Why are you talking about your self.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
i done talking to u , ur acting real retarted right now.
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, Your the one acting retarded. You said you were a Christian below in a previous commnt. Now your saying your not a Christian. Please learn how to explain what your trying to say more clearer.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
dahh u fuckig retard , those so called christans are not really christans they are demon worshipers. this is nation not religion. i didnt say i wasnt a christian retard, i said not like those sun worshipers.and u want me to explain ok.send another.
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, Youve just shown your retardedness. What in the world is "fuckig"??? Please learn how to spell all your doing is showing the world why many don't believe Black Americans are the true jews.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
why are u off subject bitch , i can spell, im in a rush . i bet u are a red bitch (edomite)
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, How am I off subject. Your making the statement that " Judah were followers of Christ". I am correcting you based on the evidence ive found proving that Judah never worshiped Christ.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
i didnt say worship u stupid bitch! just leave me alone , ur really irritating
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777 From your below statement "look the israelites of judah were followers of christ the anointed" it could be seen that you meant worship when you used the word "followers".
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
ok, look the israelites of judah were followers of christ the anointed, the word christian means follower of the anointed. the followers of the anointed are the judahites(so called negros), and i am a so called negro , so im a christan , u see now? this doesnt have any thing to do with the religion
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
@tazaqwa777, The ancient Hebrews were not called Christians nor were they Christians. Moses and all Hebrews in that day worshiped Yahweh (the father).
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
TAZAQWA777, you wrote "I don't deal with religion". But shouldn't a true Christian, as you claim to be, concern himself with issues of religion? Shouldn't he strive to make his religion pure and undefiled? Shouldn't he try to avoid vain religion?
I look forward to your thoughts on these questions.
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 1 year ago
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee look u are wayyy off my level. first of all the most high and his son didnt give the israelites religion, he gave them laws statutes and commandments. the true christians are the judites(so called american blacks) , the followers of the anointed one(christ). the one you call god dont deal with religion , all religion are of satan , brings confusion. the word religion comes from the latin religio which means to hold back . the judites are the original christans.
tazaqwa777 1 year ago
TAZQWA, I asked if you think Christians should be concerned that their religion is pure and undefiled rather than vain, and you claimed that God doesn't deal with religion. So I would ask you, how do you understand James 1:26-27, which states that if a man does not bridle his tongue, and deceives himself, "this man's RELIGION is vain," and which adds that "pure RELIGION" constitutes keeping oneself unspotted?
By the way, you seemed to think I'm a Muslim. "MaseeHee" means Christians in Arabic.
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 1 year ago
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee did u understand what the hell said. the most high dont deal with religions , they are all of man not him , and of satan. look christaninty up , u find out that so called chhristans worship teh sun(SUn day worship).u dont even understand the meaning of that scripture too , heathan. i dont know either because im still learning but u dont know the meaning.all religion is vain , all come from the head church(catholic church).
tazaqwa777 1 year ago
TAZAQWA, yes, indeed, you did assert that "the Most High don't deal with religions," but why should anyone believe your assertion? I showed you what the Scriptures actually say about religion (i.e. some religion is vain but religion can be pure and undefiled), and you basically ignored it. Do you have any Scripture to back up your claim that "the Most High don't deal with religions"? Where's that in the Scriptures?
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 1 year ago
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee I dont give if u dont believe me , u are a damn heathan ishamelite, the most high aint dealing no damn heathans. like i u dont understand the breakdown of that scripture ishmael.
tazaqwa777 1 year ago
TAZAQWA, you're merely putting your own frustrations on display here. I showed what the Scriptures actually state, while you seem to be hoping people just take your word for it. When it is shown that your claims are in conflict with what the Bible states, you switch to making speculations about who is and is not a "heathen".
As for this "Ishmaelite" charge, I doubt you know anything about my paternal lineage, so avoid bearing false witness. If you have a problem with Arabic, read Acts 2:11.
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 1 year ago
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee like i said u damn ishmaelite heathan u are a fool , u dont know what that scripture means. u are a arab(ishmael). this is my last message , im not fanna waste my time on a heathan sun worshiper who don t know shit.
tazaqwa777 1 year ago
@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee all of religion is of man not the most high ok. that damn islam worships a damn rock called the kaba. and allah is a moon god.all religion is vain in the sight of the most high. the one u call god is only dealing with the israelites. that crescent moon star thing is a symbol of witchcraft. all of u muslims are witches. matterfact that symbol predates islam. all of these religions come from the catholic church. the quran is a damn fairytale.
tazaqwa777 1 year ago
fuck u , u brain dead negro
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
yu dead
MrMusik93 2 years ago
fagget ass bitch , i cant wait til u burn
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
yu mean your gonna burn, yu dont read enough to argue verbally
MrMusik93 2 years ago
fuck u , dont message me anymore im done with u boneheads
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
why are you mixing mythology with actuality? tell me that. no one has seen Yahweh to the point where they make carvings of him
MrMusik93 2 years ago
@MrMusik93
They "saw" and made carvings of Yahweh as much as they "saw" and made carvings of Hadad, Zeus, and any other sky god Yahweh is patterned after.
Iannes33 2 years ago
no they did not, first of all Yahweh is not and never was a so called "sky god" do your research
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Did you even watch the video you're responding to...?
Iannes33 2 years ago
of course I did, why do yu think Im commenting? all it is is mythology mixed with reality, why do yu think they categorized Zeus, and Hadad as mythology? a myth is not real, and Yahweh has always been the fisrt and the last, and if yu do your research you will find that the earth is very young, meaning those mythical gods never existed before him, read the dictionary and encyclopedia whenever yu get the chance or go buy one if yu dont have one, or search online.. the truth is there.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Firstly, the Bible's timelines are an absolute joke. They aren't even consistent with each other, much less history or geology. Secondly, Yahweh is no more "reality" than Zeus. The Bible is mythology too. Worse, because it's not even original mytholgy. It's a later knock-off.
Iannes33 2 years ago
The bible is not mythology and you cannot prove that it is, Zeus is 100% mythology, so If Zeus were real than the tooth fairy is real too huh?
MrMusik93 2 years ago
You'd have better chances of the tooth fairy leaving you a quarter under your pillow than you would of Yahweh doing anything for you. To prove the Bible is mythology all you have to do is read it. As soon as you open the first book in it you get hit with a mythological creation story that never happened.
Iannes33 2 years ago
the creation stated in the bible is not mythology, evolution is mythology, and the rest of the bible did happen, the bible was written in 11 different ways. you being a non-believer would not think of that, therefore you cannot understand anything that is written in the bible, for example parables, visions, etc. all of those are metaphors, I suggest you give up while your ahead, you will never be able to prove me wrong, trust me on that.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Yes, I'm familiar with the "whenever the Bible says something silly or wrong, pretend only believers can magically understand it" claim. Good luck with that.
Iannes33 2 years ago
thats not what I mean, you have to break down the words in the bible before you except it as real or fake, you can't just read it and say " oh this is false, nothing like that can ever happen" you have to come to understand why it was written in that form, theres a really big reason why it was written like that, its meant for this generation to decipher it and understand it.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
th emost highs name is yahawah not yahweh not el or enyeh.
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
actually its Yahweh according to hebrew, look at the vowel points in the original text, that is if you can read it.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
"The Most High's" name is Hadad.
Iannes33 2 years ago
the hebrews were educated by the sons of ham. EGYPT & CANAAN. ACT7:22 & old hebrew came from the canaanite dialect. their religion also came from them. hebrews borrowed mostly everything they know from other cultures.
garychldress74 2 years ago
This is all basically zeitgeist propaganda with a new dope hook to it. Explain then,how did the Bible prophesy that in the end times (now) there'd be increased earthquakes? How did they know over 2,000 years ago about a 1 world government forming? What about the plagues (pestilences)? How is it fake there? Other predictions that didnt happen yet-Damascus utterly destroyed by fire? plus many more, how is something thats 100% accurate, false? I hope you rethink things, but pride is a bit...
FlipFlibbo 2 years ago 2
The Bible prophesies that the End Times would arrive during the lives of the current audience, not that the End Times were would be in 2009. The same chapter that says earthquakes would be increased also said that this is coming so soon that those presently living and hearing the prophesy would still be alive when it happened. Obviously, the Bible was wrong. But it's wrong alot, so that's nothing particularly special.
Iannes33 2 years ago
Its called ICONAGRAPHY. Not that the Hebrews stole from anyone.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
Iconography is the use of pictures to represent things. What does that have to do with what the video is talking about?
Iannes33 2 years ago
IAANES33, REBELALLIANCE is trying to connect a COIN as a depiction of YAHWEH when it was of BAAL and not Yahweh. That is nothing but ICONOGRAPHY. YAHWEH and BAAL are described in the same fashion as elderly and black. But Yahweh had no image. So this coin is not a representation of him.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
That is the YHD coin. It is regarded as an image of Yahweh. There are also other images of Yahweh with inscriptions right on them saying that it's Yahweh. So he certainly had an image.
Iannes33 2 years ago
I should say that's "a" YHD coin, not "the". Since there's more than one.
Iannes33 2 years ago
no there isn't
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Yes, there is.
Iannes33 2 years ago
no, where does it say that? and where are the coins? your completely wrong
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Why don't you just google "YHD coins" and see?
Iannes33 2 years ago
that I will do, and prove you wrong, cause I can read hebrew
MrMusik93 2 years ago
I see where your wrong at "YHD" in hebrew is "Yehud" which is "Yehudah (Judah)" not Yahweh, theres a distinct difference
MrMusik93 2 years ago
I didn't say YHD meant Yahweh. I know what it means.
Iannes33 2 years ago
I looked that up and it says YHD not Yahweh.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
no , its not you stupid bitch it is what i said it was. there is no damn j v e o or u in the original hebrew the hebrew they call paleo , the ancient hebrew. it is not yahweh! or yahshua yahoshua etc
tazaqwa777 2 years ago
yu the stupid bitch, your source is wrong, and yet you cant seem to understand anything. You wouldn't know history if it bit you in your ass
MrMusik93 2 years ago
IANNES33, The commandments itself proves that it's not Yahweh. This is why I used the concept of Iconography as an allegory to the discussion.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
If you have a depiction of Yahweh with an inscription telling you by name that it's Yahweh, how do the commandments prove that it's not Yahweh?
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, Where on the coin does it say Yahweh?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
It doesn't say Yahweh on that particular depiction. But it does on others.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, A few minutes ago you stated the following...
"If you have a depiction of Yahweh with an inscription telling you by name that its Yahweh... how do the commandments prove that it's not Yahweh?"
Now you've switched from that claim and not have asserted that it doesn't say Yahweh on it. So how can you claim that its Yahweh if the name doesn't appear on the coin?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
I didn't switch. You said Yahweh didn't have an image. Then I said "that is the YHD coin. It is regarded as an image of Yahweh. There are also other images of Yahweh with inscriptions right on them saying that it's Yahweh.". I'm name isn't needed every time to identify something. The context and the image itself can identify it. As you could probably recognize a picture of Zeus or Osiris without a name.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, You did switch your argument. You asserted that the coin is a depication of Yahweh. Then claimed it doesn't have his name on it. If it doesn't have his name on it how can you determine that its Yahweh?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
My assertion of the coin was "It is regarded as an image of Yahweh". Alongside that assertion I also pointed out to you that there are numerous depictions specifically identified by name. That is not a switch, that is my original statement. And I just covered your question about how an image can be identified without a name.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES, But the commandments states "Thou shall not make a graven image" of anything in heaven. So how can you determine if this is Yahweh or not. If his name isn't on the coin and if he discredits graven images in the commandments?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
Again, they made numerous images of Yahweh. Your interpretation of that commandment is likely not the same as that of Jews living at the time.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, How could they have made numerious images of YAHWEH. When no one ever saw the face of Yahweh before? Clearly your claims are wrong.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
These are not "my" claims. The people of Jerusalem themselves depicted Yahweh and inscribed him by name on these depictions. You are assuming this particular tradition of no one seeing Yahweh's face was shared in all places at all times, when we know this mythology developed and changed sharply over time.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, Your making assertions without sources so there isn't anyone else claims but yours.
You have now based one concept that this coin was a depiction of Yahweh for...
"they made numerous images of Yahweh"
If they made numerous images of Yahweh what are some other examples?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
Other examples would be the ones at Kuntillet Ajrud, which specifically identify the images as Yahweh by name.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, So your insisting that some Kuntillet Ajrud drawing is Yahweh?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
No. The living follower(s) of Yahweh who drew them insist it's Yahweh.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, Once again the commandments state to not create or errect of image of Yahweh. The Bible clearly states that Yahweh has never been seen before. So how can this drawing be Yahweh?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
You are trying to superimpose a religious development of Yahweh mythology onto the issue as though this mythology is unchanged and consistent throughout Israelite history. It's not. We see in Judges ch.17 that graven images were made for Yahweh. We know it's a depiction of Yahweh at Ajrud because it says so right on it's inscription. So I'm not really sure why you're attempting to make this depiction of Yahweh not be Yahweh despite the clear fact that it is.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES, Your trying to insist that Yahweh had an image when that goes against Biblical tradition. You then attempt to use a source and its nothing but drawings on a white board. Thats not evidence/
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
1. It's not a drawing on a board. It's also an unambivalent image of Yahweh.
2. The person who carved that image would know more about contemporary Judaism then you would.
3. Biblical tradition changes throughout the Bible.
4. I also gave you a biblical example of images being made to Yahweh
These are the facts of the situation. How you reconsile the known fact that images of Yahweh were made with your religion is up to you, but it is what it is.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, Once again Yahweh never had an image. Scripture itself proves that
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
Except when scripture says he did, of course. Such is the nature of scripture. Contradictions abound.
Iannes33 2 years ago
INNES33, How are you sure that its a iamge of Yahweh when no name is on the photo?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
I have no idea what photo you're talking about, but the name is written on the carving. It's Yahweh. That's not really up for debate so there's no reason to keep going back and forth about it anymore really.
Iannes33 2 years ago
IANNES33, Yahweh had no image so how can you claim that it is Yahweh?
No one has ever seen Yahweh before! Clearly it isn't Yahweh.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
I agree with you
MrMusik93 2 years ago
@MrMusik93 , Iannes doesn't do proper research. Yaw and Yah is not the same thing.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
yea, I can see that, thanks for the help
MrMusik93 2 years ago
@MrMusik93 This video put out by Rebel Alliance and how they try to claim that Yahweh was a copied pagan god is non sense.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
yea, I dont know why he would put a video up that he cannot prove to be accurate
MrMusik93 2 years ago
MrMusik93, Consider this... Abraham worshiped Yahweh and Abraham's father worshiped Baal. Baal was the god of the Canaanites. That's another clue that Baal was different from Yahweh. Baal came along with a series of dieties to worship.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
yea, they were "false gods" if yu do your research yu would also know that, your trying to make your statement true by saying things from the bible that have nothing to do with what yu are talking about. Now if yu look back into history yu will see that Idol worship is the worship of Lucifer's angels (fallen angels) who fell with him to earth.
MrMusik93 2 years ago
MrMusik93, Abraham's father worshiped gods. If you do research on the city of which Abraham and his father lived. You would know that many people their worshiped Baal.
What are you talking about worship of lucifer's angels?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
what I was saying was pagan gods are Lucifer's angels who came to earth teaching things that should not have been taught to mankind
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Mrmusik93, Meaning the nephilim of Genesis 6?
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
yes, and since then there has been false gods (pagan gods), when in actuality their fallen angels
MrMusik93 2 years ago
MsMusik93, Ive heard of your theory before about Genesis 6 describing the same dieties the Sumerians called Anunnaki being the same as the Nephilim and worshiped. However my argument was mainly focused on the letters of the coin.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
oh ok, I apologize for getting off subject
MrMusik93 2 years ago
Sirius, the video doesn't say that Yahweh and Hadad are the same god. It says that Yahweh is based in large part on Ba'al mythology and shows the evidence of this in the Bible. And I'd like to see what verse says that Terah worshipped BA'AL.
Iannes33 2 years ago
Iannes, I know what this video states. It says that El is Yahweh's father. Which is bogus for the simple fact that the E sourse is new and only appears in newer translations of the Old Testament. Show me a scripture when Yahweh says Baal is his father.
SiriusLordoflisan7 2 years ago
Sirius, what are you talking about? Where in this video does it say Ba'al is Yahweh's father? And what verse says that Terah(Abraham's father) worshipped Hadad? It sounds like you're getting yourself confused.
Iannes33 2 years ago
@SiriusLordoflisan7
I don't want to shock you or anything, but the only one that's said anything about "Yaw" is you. You need to improve your own research rather than speaking on others'.
Iannes33 2 years ago