The one thing this video and people in general don't point about the Palestinian refugees is that most of them didn't even move that far after being displaced. Many of them were farmers with no irrigation system and were moving year to year. It's not like they couldn't grow their olives or sustain their way of life 5 miles over.
@amyisraelchai1988 So just because they can grow olives somewhere else gives the Jews the right to forcefully move the Palestinians out of their own land? All of the Palestinian refugees can't gain citizenship anywhere in the middle east and are misplaced and homeless thanks to the Jews, and you need citizenship to own land and to have a job. Egypt won't take them, Syria won't take them, Iran won't take them, Iraq won't take them, etc. So how is that fair in any shape or form?
strange before the world war... jews and arabs were at peace..................... after the world wars the european jews got kicked out of germany so they decided to take houses and farms one by one flooding in their jewish people filling the houses up and kikd out the arabs...they lost with hitler now they taking ther anger out on arabs too bad some jews are second class jews in israel
This "documentary" ignores the fact that many Arabs came to live and work in the mandate because of the opportunity created by Jewish development and money.
too bad the BBC skipped the fact that in 1948 FIVE Arab armies attacked the jews, promising the arabs living there that they would kill every last jew. too bad they LOST! Plenty of arabs stayed and guess what?! Now their families are Israeli citizens. Israel never kicked anyone out! They Arabs left, so their brethren could 'push the jews into the sea'.
The bible actually mathematically prophesied that Israel would be re-formed as a nation in their homeland in the year 1948 A.D Along with a bunch of other notable foretelling such as Israeli withdrawal from the gaza strip. Makes for some very interesting research.
The birth of the State of Israel in 1948 is a fulfillment of a Bible prophecy. Isaiah 66:8 "Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."
@knightsofstjoan2004 Then where is Jesus Christ because if you read Joel 3 it says when Christ brings back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, he was going to bring all nations down to the valley of Jehosaphat and plead their for his inheritance, if those are the Jews, then where is Christ?
Arabs would be glad to see them, becuase they were bringing European expertise, now if that isnt the fucking story of America the last few years, lol. We see now where this has gotten us, i mean one of Bin Laden's reasons for attack was American Support for Israel. Our response was a troop occupation, with thousands of dead innocents, when a covert option has accomplished more.
anyone who really wants to do some research should read "1948" by Benny Morris. While he is Israeli, the book actually turned out to be quite informative and objective. Not nearly as biased as I thought it would be. Plus, it has a HUGE Notes/Bibliography section (84 pages of sources for me to check on myself. yay.)!!!
@germanisrael1 Isreal is World Biggest Terrorist STate...Terrorizes Jews that disagree with Zionism, repeately provoke by Killing and Massacring Palestinians and Their Children....Master in Black Flag operations and Instigates Wars to keep focus off its STATE Evils...
Serekes 17 if you dont like Garaudy try Tom Segevs book "One Palestine Complete" or Robert Fisks The Great war for Civilisation, excellent historical analysis, or do you support the State of Israel? If you do start with the making of Modern South Africa Conquest, Segregation and Apartheid by Nigel Worden, then you will understand israel a bit more.
Israel was always Jewish land? have a read of Roger Garuadys book "A study of Political Zionism, the Case of Israel" if you want to understand the issues a bit more.
@period181 Aye man, google up Roger Garuadys and see what you'll find... I Quote: "Roger Garaudy or Ragaa (born 17 July 1913) is a French philosopher. Formerly a prominent communist author, he has converted to Islam"... Now read a few more books and get your own conclusion... Peace out!
Nusseibeh forgot to say, arab landlords made big money by selling properties to jewish immigrants. They built up fortune thanks to the jews. Immigration pressure was not like described. At that time, jews were not interested into living in arab villages. Propaganda
@NikoisBack "jews were not interested into living in arab villages. Propaganda"
Try telling the British soldiers who were caught between warring Jews and Arabs back in 1947 that it was propaganda. I know one, now in his 80's, who laughed when I told him what you said. The 'arab landlords' you're talking about were the Sursock family: a Greek Orthodox Lebanese aristocratic family. You need to check your facts before posting.
@mileycyruscousinchad My native languages are Arabic and Armenian. You don't see me using shitty grammar and spelling. I devoted the due time and effort to master the relatively simple grammatical laws of the language of the scientific worldwide community. The fact remains that you have no grasp of the fundamentals of logic. How exactly did I "skip" to idiotic atheist? Are skepticism and a need for objective evidence before accepting something as truth now considered idiotic?
@batmanpronz ...if ur lango is arabic or armanian, what point u wana prove???we intrested in video not ur fucking grammer...go and tell ur village ppl that u speaka da good good english....fuckin arab
Iran will losse the war.. !!Viva Israel The Gods people.!!!!! Will gonna win this war with Iran because is all Write..in The Holly Bible The Book of Life...our Father is with Israel don.t worryy..Israel 10 milions--- arabsmuslims 800 milions...but Israel will win the war because is all write..!!Viva Israel Amin.
1947 the beginning of the pawns and the refusal by Egyptian Arabs and Jordain Arabs... "Palestinians" look in the mirror of death and misery. How many country's are Muslim? How many Jews....damned the blood lust Arabs and their male supremacist made up religion of 'Peace" !!
@LetThereBePeaceNow That makes no sense, it belonged to the British. And before that it belonged to the Turkish. I dont see the Turkish complaining that they want the land back? So explain who's land was given away? You mean Jewish land that has always been Jewish? If thats the case your 100% right.
When Arabs from surrounding nations moved into Jerusalem they knew very well they were committing a crime by stealing Jewish land.
@yoavlevytam Tell me exactly when it happened, and who are the so called "jews" who took "their" land back? If you read Torah it doesn't mean you're Jewish.
The British had no right to give over British territory? Or perhaps this British territory was really a Muslim country, as opposed to what history has to say? Just wondeirng...
The Palestinians are mostly the descendants of Arab immigrants who moved to Palestine during a similar period of Jewish immigration that created economic oppertunites. Just correcting the Jordanian ambassador at 5:30 into the movie
Ancient Egyptian records and maps show Gaza and Palestine as Being already established while the Isrealites were still wanderers. As far as Nationality, That is arbitrary to ethnicity. I am Australian because of the area I was born, not due to the ethnicity of my ancestors...
... This would be like the Dutch returning to Australia and claiming Western Australia as theirs just becuase they lived in WA for a brief period. Then they would denounse Australia ever being a country or entity and keep increasing it's borders into other states and also crying victim as they are defended from. Don't forget that Isreal refuse to accept Palestine as a legitimate country, they saw it as open land.
@MilitantPeaceist thats why i am an israeli. because i was born in israel, not because some of our fathers lived here a few thousand years ago and some of them returned 100 years ago but because i live here..
and if you think that all the countries today are simply countries from the same people that are living there is like that and only israel is unique your wrong.
what about the americans? they have no history related to america, they are refuges from europe who decided to take america.
@MilitantPeaceist and you think everybody here will just pack our things and leave? this is no longer a new state... you need to visit this place if you think that, were not just going to pack up our things and come back to who knows where...
this conflict is more complecated then you will ever understand... i still dont understand its fully complecation... and if you think its simply innocent palastinians and bad isarelis your wrong... each side did shit, the problem is we put it in two groups.
@MilitantPeaceist well most of the dumbest say we shoudlnt be here, aka not to exist aka move the fuck away or die.
maybe we were not more then immigrants from europe and asia and africa but now we are a nation, and whats most common between all those coltures here is that we all fight for one thing, for our existance in this land.
@MilitantPeaceist i know this... try telling this to the rest of the people here.. most of them dont think about it.. and say palastinians.... each one of them can suddenly become a terrorist. this is the problem , in arroound 2001 i remmber there were sucide bombers and terror attacks nearly everyday i was only 8 years old... after such a thing how can you make a nation trust the palastinians? the people here dont know the diffrence between terrorists and simple palastinians.(most of then)
That is your Gov's fault. Your gov has been using the same tactics as hitler, which to myself & my grandmother, is the biggest slap in the face after what she went through.
Organ harvesting, cluster bombs, phosphorous bombs, if the suicide bombers only have their own bodies to fight with & you guys have everything, then I know who the agressors are.
Think about it, half my family got gassed so the Ashkenazi's could do the same to the Palestinians. Look into history!
@MilitantPeaceist ok ok you pushed it to way far, even if our goverment's policies are abit alike like nazis they arent close to the nazis, if you think they are its because the media show only when shit happans , they wont be there filimg when everything is normal right? you have no idea what the media can do , its enough they are showing a shit that happans all the time it looks like it allways like that..besides we dont have by law any racism, arabs are equel to us in our state, 20 % arabs
Bullshit - you do not allow Palestinians in & limit their basic supplies to under 250 items which even goes as far as ruling out paper for school children.
@MilitantPeaceist non of this wasnt there before they started with their antifadas, sucide bombing where on daily bases, every day arround 10 people would killed..
they made that wall , and that wall really helped to prevent any terror attacks..
you think we are just doing it cus we like it? moron
before the antifadas and all that shit atleast 5000 israeli jews would drive every day to gaza to buy produce from them because they were cheap, and things were much better back then..
Oh yeah - that's right, the Jews were completely innocent.
Bullshit. What you are failing to see is that there were a few that were causing Germany alot of hassles which gave Hitler the edge to convince the German public that Jews were not human - that is what Israel is doing to Palestine & Palestinians.
@MilitantPeaceist allright your not mature enough to talk to me... im more open minded then you think but i wont listin to a hippy who only say things by what he saw in his little TV.. go fuck your self... i never were against the palastinians them selves im only against terror orginazations like hamas.. you are just a stupid hippy that knows nothing more then left wing that never solves anything because its incorrect... same the right wing... both are to extream..
@MilitantPeaceist and if you were open minded you would admit that the palastinians actions only did worse to both sides.. their terror actions killed citizens and made the hate from israeli society upon them even larger also militery retaliation... they just crapped at the hole situation that what happand..
It was a response to your comment of "They did it themself's" - you are the racist fuck!
You are the one that sees your ethnicity as central to your everything, even security.
I am Jewish, you ignorrant fool.
As far as "Burn to death"? - we see your true colours from a misunderstanding on your part as it was a direct copy of your comment. You don't like what I said? You fucking idiot, it was the same as what you said!
@MilitantPeaceist your jewish and you said that all jews should be gased?
and i am not seeing my self as the chosen people or some thing im just saying there is nearly no brain washing here, the hate upon the arabs here is because of the terror attacks..no matter what we did to them.. we dident terrorized them , a terror action is not the answer .. it just encoraged the hate between the two sides and now its worse.. what good came up from it?
Stop being an idiot - you condemed all Palestinians, even the women & children by saying they ALL deserved it. They brought it on themselves. That is what the fucking Germans said about the Jews you complete fucking hypocrite!
You don't like it when it is reffered to your people, so stop using that type of generalised crap.
You started by saying the media is a dangerous thing & then you say that 'no one' here are brainwashed.
@MilitantPeaceist i said media is dangures dident meant to this media.. our media is no more then the news broadcasting and they are the same thing as broad casted abroad..i meant other media like the clips hamas does when they show little girls with blood on them or some thing and things like that.. have you seen the children channal in gaza? it is meant to brainwash..
@MilitantPeaceist gaza isnt a ghetto, they have their own goverment there they have more food then ghetto had , they have more space comparing to a ghetto , they dont need to wear any symbols defining them as arabs or anything sick like that..
Oragan Harvesting & the lies YOUR Gov said about that until they had to admit to it.
Phosphorous bombs - that is chemical warfare you cunt. You have no fucking idea do you?
Cluster bombs at schools when you have guided missiles & infra red tracking - I know this! Israel has had many chances & their own paranoia is there own fault!
@MilitantPeaceist i cannot explain the use of phosphorous or cluster... looks like they really wanna show the world they have balls and they dont care what the UN says... bad idea anyway...
Organs haveresting.. they took it from dead palastinians , and ofc they dident killed them to take their organs... i actuilly think its a good idea if every dead person could have his organs haverested and maybe save a life of another person that needs heart or liver or what ever..
Do not go on any further, you have already acted like a brainwashed German watching the Jews be treated like animals.
You have a chance to make things better & I know personally of many people there doing so, so I know what side you are on here. I can hear the excuses from you!
Sorry but no thank you - go tell Abe Foxman, I am sure he will whole heartily agree with you & you can both piss in each others pockets!
Twat - idot - a beer short of a six pack - the lift doesn't go all the way to the top floor - can't see the forrest for the trees - broken spanner/useless tool ;)
@MilitantPeaceist calling me names wont make anything better in this conversation, i try to have a deceant conversation not a childesh extream opinion conversation..
@AtheistArchives hate all people when only a small group is doing bad things. Do you hate all white people because of the KKK, do you hate all black people because of the Bloods and Crips? Do you hate all spanish people for Ms13? Do you hate all germans for being nazis? Do you hate all americans because of their government? So why do you do it for jews. Oh yea its easier to hate than it is to understand. Most jews dont want to live on other peoples land or fight others. Governments create war
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arizonaboy77 3 days ago
The one thing this video and people in general don't point about the Palestinian refugees is that most of them didn't even move that far after being displaced. Many of them were farmers with no irrigation system and were moving year to year. It's not like they couldn't grow their olives or sustain their way of life 5 miles over.
amyisraelchai1988 1 week ago
@amyisraelchai1988 So just because they can grow olives somewhere else gives the Jews the right to forcefully move the Palestinians out of their own land? All of the Palestinian refugees can't gain citizenship anywhere in the middle east and are misplaced and homeless thanks to the Jews, and you need citizenship to own land and to have a job. Egypt won't take them, Syria won't take them, Iran won't take them, Iraq won't take them, etc. So how is that fair in any shape or form?
Ph0be 20 hours ago
Jews love peace, a peace of this a peace of that
aattack619 1 week ago
Viva Israel
Muralidharan001 3 weeks ago
strange before the world war... jews and arabs were at peace..................... after the world wars the european jews got kicked out of germany so they decided to take houses and farms one by one flooding in their jewish people filling the houses up and kikd out the arabs...they lost with hitler now they taking ther anger out on arabs too bad some jews are second class jews in israel
RAGSTAluvsDA90z 2 months ago 2
This "documentary" ignores the fact that many Arabs came to live and work in the mandate because of the opportunity created by Jewish development and money.
rebbiakiva 2 months ago
too bad the BBC skipped the fact that in 1948 FIVE Arab armies attacked the jews, promising the arabs living there that they would kill every last jew. too bad they LOST! Plenty of arabs stayed and guess what?! Now their families are Israeli citizens. Israel never kicked anyone out! They Arabs left, so their brethren could 'push the jews into the sea'.
badjer1785 2 months ago
The bible actually mathematically prophesied that Israel would be re-formed as a nation in their homeland in the year 1948 A.D Along with a bunch of other notable foretelling such as Israeli withdrawal from the gaza strip. Makes for some very interesting research.
jcw3032 4 months ago
An American talking about the occupation of stolen lands by Jews is a hypocrite.
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GPunktmod 4 months ago
The birth of the State of Israel in 1948 is a fulfillment of a Bible prophecy. Isaiah 66:8 "Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."
knightsofstjoan2004 4 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Then where is Jesus Christ because if you read Joel 3 it says when Christ brings back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, he was going to bring all nations down to the valley of Jehosaphat and plead their for his inheritance, if those are the Jews, then where is Christ?
jatamode 3 months ago
@jatamode=Christ is in heaven, and the day will come when He returns and Joel 3:2 will be fulfilled.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
Arabs would be glad to see them, becuase they were bringing European expertise, now if that isnt the fucking story of America the last few years, lol. We see now where this has gotten us, i mean one of Bin Laden's reasons for attack was American Support for Israel. Our response was a troop occupation, with thousands of dead innocents, when a covert option has accomplished more.
UtopiaMinor666 5 months ago
FUK ISRAEL
sydhani 5 months ago
@sydhani I will insert you a but plug and I will behead you for what you said! LONG LIVE ISRAEL! ZION FOREVER!
Samyaza69 5 months ago
I can't see this anymore. It makes my blood boil
planetarycruise 6 months ago
BBC Falsetinian proPALganda shit !
You have to blame the occupying British forces for the on-going conflict in Islael's land !
MrGiddeonn 6 months ago
anyone who really wants to do some research should read "1948" by Benny Morris. While he is Israeli, the book actually turned out to be quite informative and objective. Not nearly as biased as I thought it would be. Plus, it has a HUGE Notes/Bibliography section (84 pages of sources for me to check on myself. yay.)!!!
IAmTheUnknownPunk 7 months ago
fuck israel fucking emigrants
Petlovedurian 7 months ago
"1930 massive land purchases and massive immigration" -- sounds totally legal to me.
DCFunBud 8 months ago 2
@DCFunBud to you as a Zionist? Does that Give the right for Saudi for example to Buy Texas, Ship Saudis there and then annex it?
addy1231 5 months ago
@addy1231 They can have Texas!
DCFunBud 5 months ago
@DCFunBud LOL!
BeaSiegal 4 months ago
This is a biasedly made video by the muslim loving anti british bbc.. they let and manipulate the uk into becoming more and more muslims..
gymraturi 8 months ago
ISRAEL IS THE BEST!! and everybody know thish hahaha LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!
germanisrael1 8 months ago 2
@germanisrael1 Isreal is World Biggest Terrorist STate...Terrorizes Jews that disagree with Zionism, repeately provoke by Killing and Massacring Palestinians and Their Children....Master in Black Flag operations and Instigates Wars to keep focus off its STATE Evils...
ienviro 7 months ago
Serekes 17 if you dont like Garaudy try Tom Segevs book "One Palestine Complete" or Robert Fisks The Great war for Civilisation, excellent historical analysis, or do you support the State of Israel? If you do start with the making of Modern South Africa Conquest, Segregation and Apartheid by Nigel Worden, then you will understand israel a bit more.
period181 8 months ago
Israel was always Jewish land? have a read of Roger Garuadys book "A study of Political Zionism, the Case of Israel" if you want to understand the issues a bit more.
period181 8 months ago
@period181 Aye man, google up Roger Garuadys and see what you'll find... I Quote: "Roger Garaudy or Ragaa (born 17 July 1913) is a French philosopher. Formerly a prominent communist author, he has converted to Islam"... Now read a few more books and get your own conclusion... Peace out!
serekes17 8 months ago
Religion, Lol.
newman015 8 months ago
Israel... only bastard country of world. result of England and American unethical policy.
sakawat79 9 months ago
/watch?v=rB0xZQWF1EQ&feature=related
Please watch the real history.
ishida77 9 months ago
Nusseibeh forgot to say, arab landlords made big money by selling properties to jewish immigrants. They built up fortune thanks to the jews. Immigration pressure was not like described. At that time, jews were not interested into living in arab villages. Propaganda
NikoisBack 10 months ago
@NikoisBack "jews were not interested into living in arab villages. Propaganda"
Try telling the British soldiers who were caught between warring Jews and Arabs back in 1947 that it was propaganda. I know one, now in his 80's, who laughed when I told him what you said. The 'arab landlords' you're talking about were the Sursock family: a Greek Orthodox Lebanese aristocratic family. You need to check your facts before posting.
gillianzz62 10 months ago
Ah...religious fanaticism...ain't it wonderful? Though Judaism appears less so than Islam. I could be wrong, though.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
@batmanpronz And when you See God and sent to hell for your disbelief i am going to say Who's the mentally sick person!
mileycyruscousinchad 1 year ago
@mileycyruscousinchad 2 things
1. Look up the concept of burden of proof.
2. I will "sent" to hell when you will sent back to elementary school to learn grammar and spelling.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
@batmanpronz Actually its you who needs to go back to elementary school cause my grammar is correct you SKIPPED to idiotic atheist
mileycyruscousinchad 1 year ago
@batmanpronz and English isn't my native language Arabic and Hebrew are
mileycyruscousinchad 1 year ago
@mileycyruscousinchad My native languages are Arabic and Armenian. You don't see me using shitty grammar and spelling. I devoted the due time and effort to master the relatively simple grammatical laws of the language of the scientific worldwide community. The fact remains that you have no grasp of the fundamentals of logic. How exactly did I "skip" to idiotic atheist? Are skepticism and a need for objective evidence before accepting something as truth now considered idiotic?
batmanpronz 1 year ago
@batmanpronz ...if ur lango is arabic or armanian, what point u wana prove???we intrested in video not ur fucking grammer...go and tell ur village ppl that u speaka da good good english....fuckin arab
pakijew4 1 year ago
@pakijew4 None of your business.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
Religion..... the modern world's greatest murderer. All because of blind faith? I simply don't understand theists
DougieKellock 1 year ago
@DougieKellock I dont Understand atheists
mileycyruscousinchad 1 year ago
@mileycyruscousinchad of course you don't. You're mentally sick. You base your life on an invisible space daddy.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
@batmanpronz Im mentally sick you have no proof for your disbelief!
mileycyruscousinchad 1 year ago
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Iran will losse the war.. !!Viva Israel The Gods people.!!!!! Will gonna win this war with Iran because is all Write..in The Holly Bible The Book of Life...our Father is with Israel don.t worryy..Israel 10 milions--- arabsmuslims 800 milions...but Israel will win the war because is all write..!!Viva Israel Amin.
spynu85 1 year ago
1947 the beginning of the pawns and the refusal by Egyptian Arabs and Jordain Arabs... "Palestinians" look in the mirror of death and misery. How many country's are Muslim? How many Jews....damned the blood lust Arabs and their male supremacist made up religion of 'Peace" !!
ironx00 1 year ago
all we want is peace - but these arab fucks just want blood
were here to stay and our army will make sure of that!
Shuffling69Israeli 1 year ago
This is a ridiculous Documentary, based on one perspective.
Interesting to view, but of little truth.
:P
Joxman2k 1 year ago
@Joxman2k
Another terrorist ploy
:P
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist
AHH HA!!
I knew you were a!!!... ah. never mind.
:P
Joxman2k 1 year ago
Britain had no right to give the Jews someone else's country!
LetThereBePeaceNow 1 year ago 7
@LetThereBePeaceNow That makes no sense, it belonged to the British. And before that it belonged to the Turkish. I dont see the Turkish complaining that they want the land back? So explain who's land was given away? You mean Jewish land that has always been Jewish? If thats the case your 100% right.
When Arabs from surrounding nations moved into Jerusalem they knew very well they were committing a crime by stealing Jewish land.
yoavlevytam 9 months ago
@yoavlevytam Tell me exactly when it happened, and who are the so called "jews" who took "their" land back? If you read Torah it doesn't mean you're Jewish.
haimaphil 8 months ago
@LetThereBePeaceNow It was British Territory at the time so i think they did have a right to tell people who where to live there.
Pliam96 4 months ago
@Pliam96
it wasn't British territory, but they were given a mandate over it by the league of nations.
the league of nations recognized the right of the jews to self determination in the territory.
yoeldg 4 months ago
@LetThereBePeaceNow
The British had no right to give over British territory? Or perhaps this British territory was really a Muslim country, as opposed to what history has to say? Just wondeirng...
israelawareness1 4 months ago
they survived LABOR camps
holocaust =a hoax
ExposeZionistCrimes 1 year ago
The Palestinians are mostly the descendants of Arab immigrants who moved to Palestine during a similar period of Jewish immigration that created economic oppertunites. Just correcting the Jordanian ambassador at 5:30 into the movie
ServeHaShem 1 year ago
@ServeHaShem
Ancient Egyptian records and maps show Gaza and Palestine as Being already established while the Isrealites were still wanderers. As far as Nationality, That is arbitrary to ethnicity. I am Australian because of the area I was born, not due to the ethnicity of my ancestors...
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
... This would be like the Dutch returning to Australia and claiming Western Australia as theirs just becuase they lived in WA for a brief period. Then they would denounse Australia ever being a country or entity and keep increasing it's borders into other states and also crying victim as they are defended from. Don't forget that Isreal refuse to accept Palestine as a legitimate country, they saw it as open land.
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist thats why i am an israeli. because i was born in israel, not because some of our fathers lived here a few thousand years ago and some of them returned 100 years ago but because i live here..
and if you think that all the countries today are simply countries from the same people that are living there is like that and only israel is unique your wrong.
what about the americans? they have no history related to america, they are refuges from europe who decided to take america.
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
david. I understand.
Are Americans blaming the Indians for defending their land?
Are Australians blaming the Koories for defending their land?
No, there isa no excuse for the actions that Israel are embarking on.
Their national pride has turned into facism & the state is apartheid.
You tell me a country, with the newcomers acting like Israelis?
If you live & was born there, you have a national problem.
Israel is a state in denial - In modern times, there is no excuse for this!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist and you think everybody here will just pack our things and leave? this is no longer a new state... you need to visit this place if you think that, were not just going to pack up our things and come back to who knows where...
this conflict is more complecated then you will ever understand... i still dont understand its fully complecation... and if you think its simply innocent palastinians and bad isarelis your wrong... each side did shit, the problem is we put it in two groups.
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
At what stage did I ever suggest Israeli's move away?
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist well most of the dumbest say we shoudlnt be here, aka not to exist aka move the fuck away or die.
maybe we were not more then immigrants from europe and asia and africa but now we are a nation, and whats most common between all those coltures here is that we all fight for one thing, for our existance in this land.
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Then expect the same from the Palestinians.
Come on, this is silly. You just said all the things you guys cry about Palestinians about yet you guys are the aggressors, and in a modern sense.
So it's time Israel took a pride pill & pulled their ego centric heads in a bit to a level that most matches humanity & the other "1st" world nations.
Wanna be 1st world?
Act like it!
So cut the "Existance" bull shit - we are all in the same boat!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i know this... try telling this to the rest of the people here.. most of them dont think about it.. and say palastinians.... each one of them can suddenly become a terrorist. this is the problem , in arroound 2001 i remmber there were sucide bombers and terror attacks nearly everyday i was only 8 years old... after such a thing how can you make a nation trust the palastinians? the people here dont know the diffrence between terrorists and simple palastinians.(most of then)
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
That is your Gov's fault. Your gov has been using the same tactics as hitler, which to myself & my grandmother, is the biggest slap in the face after what she went through.
Organ harvesting, cluster bombs, phosphorous bombs, if the suicide bombers only have their own bodies to fight with & you guys have everything, then I know who the agressors are.
Think about it, half my family got gassed so the Ashkenazi's could do the same to the Palestinians. Look into history!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist ok ok you pushed it to way far, even if our goverment's policies are abit alike like nazis they arent close to the nazis, if you think they are its because the media show only when shit happans , they wont be there filimg when everything is normal right? you have no idea what the media can do , its enough they are showing a shit that happans all the time it looks like it allways like that..besides we dont have by law any racism, arabs are equel to us in our state, 20 % arabs
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Bullshit - you do not allow Palestinians in & limit their basic supplies to under 250 items which even goes as far as ruling out paper for school children.
I pushed it too far?
You are full of shit!
The entire set up is racist - apartheid.
DONT YOU SEE THE FUCKING WALL YOU IDIOT!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist non of this wasnt there before they started with their antifadas, sucide bombing where on daily bases, every day arround 10 people would killed..
they made that wall , and that wall really helped to prevent any terror attacks..
you think we are just doing it cus we like it? moron
before the antifadas and all that shit atleast 5000 israeli jews would drive every day to gaza to buy produce from them because they were cheap, and things were much better back then..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
So they did that for no reason at all?
Of course they made that wall, just like the Jews deserved to be gased you cunt!
You cannot see your own hypocracy let alone your own gov.
/watch?v=TfGb5VYzGIs
You, as in YOU, I have no idea about. Right wing Zionism I know alot about - so pipe up sunshine!
They were cheep - yes, look into sanctions you fuckwod. It was cheep coz Israel forced it to be that way.
This is ALL because Israel was born from terrorism.
Live by the sword, ect!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist jews dident blow the fuck up in germany or attacked germans..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Oh yeah - that's right, the Jews were completely innocent.
Bullshit. What you are failing to see is that there were a few that were causing Germany alot of hassles which gave Hitler the edge to convince the German public that Jews were not human - that is what Israel is doing to Palestine & Palestinians.
You are an arsehole!
Yeah, their pig pen is big enough!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist allright your not mature enough to talk to me... im more open minded then you think but i wont listin to a hippy who only say things by what he saw in his little TV.. go fuck your self... i never were against the palastinians them selves im only against terror orginazations like hamas.. you are just a stupid hippy that knows nothing more then left wing that never solves anything because its incorrect... same the right wing... both are to extream..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
If you were open minded, you would not be so sure of yourself to assert as much as you have.
Go a fucking way!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist and if you were open minded you would admit that the palastinians actions only did worse to both sides.. their terror actions killed citizens and made the hate from israeli society upon them even larger also militery retaliation... they just crapped at the hole situation that what happand..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
And all the Jews deserved to be gased too!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist go burn to death you racist fuck..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
You stupid fucking idiot!
It was a response to your comment of "They did it themself's" - you are the racist fuck!
You are the one that sees your ethnicity as central to your everything, even security.
I am Jewish, you ignorrant fool.
As far as "Burn to death"? - we see your true colours from a misunderstanding on your part as it was a direct copy of your comment. You don't like what I said? You fucking idiot, it was the same as what you said!
You are a pillock! A wally!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist your jewish and you said that all jews should be gased?
and i am not seeing my self as the chosen people or some thing im just saying there is nearly no brain washing here, the hate upon the arabs here is because of the terror attacks..no matter what we did to them.. we dident terrorized them , a terror action is not the answer .. it just encoraged the hate between the two sides and now its worse.. what good came up from it?
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Stop being an idiot - you condemed all Palestinians, even the women & children by saying they ALL deserved it. They brought it on themselves. That is what the fucking Germans said about the Jews you complete fucking hypocrite!
You don't like it when it is reffered to your people, so stop using that type of generalised crap.
You started by saying the media is a dangerous thing & then you say that 'no one' here are brainwashed.
You are all over the fucking place.
You're a Nob!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i never said they deserve it... but if there were no sucide bombing or anything like IDF couldnt do what it does today.
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
You did say that & then you add your 'But' in here.
You are full of dissonance & it shows.
Israel refuses to ban the use of cluster bombs - how typical.
Israel likes the fact that if the bomb does not kill the children outright, it will get them when they play in that feild later.
You don't seem to understand - you are apparently a 1st world nation & you are acting 3rd world.
Israel without its king has always been a pain in the arse!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i agree with about 70% of what you are saying, but lets leave that aside for a second.
you said: "israel without its king has allways been a pain in the arse"
what do you mean?
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
If your Jewish, you know what I mean!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i said media is dangures dident meant to this media.. our media is no more then the news broadcasting and they are the same thing as broad casted abroad..i meant other media like the clips hamas does when they show little girls with blood on them or some thing and things like that.. have you seen the children channal in gaza? it is meant to brainwash..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Have you been on the death camp tour as a teenager in Israel?
That is meant to keep people feeling guilty & scared of something that does not exist & happened long before their lifetimes.
The whole excursion is scares the fuck out the kids.
Have you seen Israeli kids kissing the bombs that went & killed the Gaza kids?
Have you ever wondered what it is like, personally, to be uprooted from your house, never to return due to strangers desire to live where you live?
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist gaza isnt a ghetto, they have their own goverment there they have more food then ghetto had , they have more space comparing to a ghetto , they dont need to wear any symbols defining them as arabs or anything sick like that..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
That wall didn't stop
Oragan Harvesting & the lies YOUR Gov said about that until they had to admit to it.
Phosphorous bombs - that is chemical warfare you cunt. You have no fucking idea do you?
Cluster bombs at schools when you have guided missiles & infra red tracking - I know this! Israel has had many chances & their own paranoia is there own fault!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i cannot explain the use of phosphorous or cluster... looks like they really wanna show the world they have balls and they dont care what the UN says... bad idea anyway...
Organs haveresting.. they took it from dead palastinians , and ofc they dident killed them to take their organs... i actuilly think its a good idea if every dead person could have his organs haverested and maybe save a life of another person that needs heart or liver or what ever..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHERE THE ORGANS COME FROM IDIOT! WAKE UP!!!!!
IT WAS NOT OF THEIR CONSENT YOU FUCKING MORON!
IT IS ORGAN THEFT!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist i dident say the organ haversesting was right... but it wasnt so bad as you think..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Goodbye - I have no time for apologists!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@davidds0
Do not go on any further, you have already acted like a brainwashed German watching the Jews be treated like animals.
You have a chance to make things better & I know personally of many people there doing so, so I know what side you are on here. I can hear the excuses from you!
Sorry but no thank you - go tell Abe Foxman, I am sure he will whole heartily agree with you & you can both piss in each others pockets!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@davidds0 **Their**
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@davidds0
Maybe your media does not take the same angles as the free press does.
Dead set - you are a wally of the highest order!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist "you are a wally of the highest order" i dident understood you
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Wally =
Twat - idot - a beer short of a six pack - the lift doesn't go all the way to the top floor - can't see the forrest for the trees - broken spanner/useless tool ;)
Where's Wally?
Go clean your teeth, you'll find him in front ;)
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist calling me names wont make anything better in this conversation, i try to have a deceant conversation not a childesh extream opinion conversation..
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0
Calling you names stops me from ringing your stupid fucking cyber neck!
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
yahhhh anway from whar r you!??
iran??? you r lien and fucikng egly!! XD
khtcvnkll 2 years ago
you now isral is ah goish contrey!?
isral rock
khtcvnkll 2 years ago
Israel may rock to you.
But it's politics suck for humanity!
Just sayin!
AtheistArchives 2 years ago
@AtheistArchives hate all people when only a small group is doing bad things. Do you hate all white people because of the KKK, do you hate all black people because of the Bloods and Crips? Do you hate all spanish people for Ms13? Do you hate all germans for being nazis? Do you hate all americans because of their government? So why do you do it for jews. Oh yea its easier to hate than it is to understand. Most jews dont want to live on other peoples land or fight others. Governments create war
mtldrmr 10 months ago
@AtheistArchives you have no idea what your talking about lol
KaBoomPsycho 7 months ago
@khtcvnkll WHADDAFAK????
Goryllo 6 months ago