They are stupid or what, A carrera has nothing to do with a GT2. It's not even the same engine (I'm not talking about the horses power). They should compare a GT2 with a Turbo.
911 GT2 RS vs 599 GTO vs LP670-4 SV vs ZR1 on a dry day with a proper racing driver and similar tires. I would wet myself for that one :D Thumbs up if you would too
this porsche is so underrated, all these reviews of it are making it look like shit. it got 7:18 on nubrugring no other car gets close to that. and why the fuck is this in rain thats so annoying it would shit on anything
I would wait a bit, and pick up a GT2 RS at a police impound auction for pennies on the dollar after the previous owner was imprisoned for a record breaking speeding ticket.
@saxaza97 and what you would have at the end of the day is still a Carrera that probably still isn't as quick as a GT2 RS. And even if it could match it in a straight line, which I doubt, it would still corner like a Carrera. Wouldn't you rather just save up for a bit longer until you get that 20k then buy a GT2 RS or something awesome
@PACKyourSHITfolks420 the americans use a 1 foot roll out 0-60mph to measure this and i agree that it would give you a more realistic idea of the cars speed
@PACKyourSHITfolks420 Because it's a measure of everything, grip, acceleration etc. Testing a cars 0-60 means going from nothing, to a standard speed and seeing what happens, it's not about realism.
From a physics point of view the engine in the 911 is actually in the best place. It's the hardest layout to harness as it lends itself to knife edge handling at the limit but technically the best.
People love talking about how the engine is in the wrong place on 911's at one point in time that might have been a reasonable argument...one thing you cant argue with is a 7:18 around the Nurburgring. aka faster than any road ferrari, lamborghini, pagani, maserati, mercedes, bmw, audi, ford, and chevrolet. Sometimes wrong can be right i guess
"Is the GT2 RS £100k better than the Carrera?'' what a silly question. the last percentile of any perfection is, was and will forever be the most expesive. It is better. So if you think you need this little ertrasomething - go for it. Anyway, I´m sure that not even one percent of you all posting silly shit are able to expere the boundaries of a basic carrera. So go for it.
The line the two drivers are taking through the corners is completely different.... whoever was driving the regular 911 wasn't even trying (or has no skill)... not an even comparison ... still a great glimpse of the GT2 RS's amazing attributes though. What a car!!
No, the GT2 RS couldn't be the F1 Safety car, because a lot of F1 team will protest against that, because the RS would be faster than their own F1 machines!
Could you please just test cars like these in the dry? Damp conditions are just boring and irrelevant to watch. We (I) want to see what they are like maxed out!
This is Porsche's way of sticking the middle finger up to Nissan when they said the GT-R's main rival was the 911, pfft. GT2 RS is in the 458 Italia's league, perhaps Nissan should try rivaling R8s and F430s, not even the 2012 GT-R could hold it's own against this beast. Always loved the 911.
@MCmopman The GT2 RS has 90hp more and weighs 400kg less than the GT-R, yet it's only slightly faster. Do you know anything about cars? The GT-R destroys the R8 and F430 around the track, the 2012 is even faster than an Enzo. The 458 isn't even in the same league as the GT2 RS.
@edoloman24 umm because its made for the track with balance in mind, not just a science experiment to see how much power can be squeezed out of the motor....it doesn't have turbos so the power and torque distribution through the rev range is more linear...driving this car will definitely be harder to get all that power down and not lose control where as the gt3 rs 4.0 will be like a race car, i guarantee the gt3 will be like glue around the same corners where this car would spin out...
@edoloman24 ....are you having a stroke? i just told u and i gave you links to 2 reviews of the gt3 rs 4.0...u probably didn't even know there was a difference between the 4.0 or the 3.8...i can tell because you sound like you have a hard time retaining information
I followed a GT2 RS yesterday. I gave him the thumbs up, he nodded, slowed down and blasted past into the horizon. It sounded like a fighter jet. Incredible!!
It was a black one with black wheels. It was on the A140 to Ipswich on 23rd April 2011. (The reg was 96 RS)
@rxs10000 yeah. i definitely know what you mean. i live in America, you're about 10,000x more likely to see a corvette than a gt2rs. Ive only seen one in a gray color. it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@rxs10000 yeeeeep. i want a c5 vette..... but my dad doesnt want me to have one. idk cause my mom was like yeah do it. he wants me to get a mustang gt and my mom wants an infiniti g35 (basically nissan 350z w/ 4 seats, or a skyline 250gt)
I was in Downtown, Vancouver walking to a building then I saw this beautiful silver GT2 RS and couldn't keep my eyes off it. Too bad the GT2 RS is extremely limited -.-
It should be GT2 RS vs Carrera GT.Although the GT has a V10 and the GT2 a V6,they roughly have 612+ BHP.They're both made from light materials,both RWD and both can reach 200+ MPH,they are both neck and neck =)
@Truemoderate $100,000 for a base Carrera? What have you been smoking? The Porsche website right now cites the base Carrera as having a starting MSRP of just over $77,000. The first car in the 911 line that goes six-digit is the Carrera S Cabriolet, and the first hard-top to cross the hundred-thousand mark is the Carrera GTS. A good half of the Porsche 911 range starts under $100,000 and while that may very well go up with their infamous options list, it'd be hard to get a $100k Carrera 2.
"can the extra performance justify the 100 k extra on the pricetag?" If u`r a billionaire,and money means nothing why not? 620 bhp is always better than 340.....
But seriously,i think "average joe" will have much more fun and feeling of mastering the car in a GT3 than this "psychopat Porsche":P it even LOOKS intimidating.And to quote junkiejay3000:"Jamie Castorphine comes across as a really competent and likeable presenter, along with Steve Sutcliffe"
the ceramic brakes that porsche offeres really puzzle me. the base carrera has porsche's lowly black coloured brakes. while the carrera s has the better red brakes. the gt2 rs has the $9000 ceramic brake option and it only stops 3 meters shorter than the carrera. this can only mean three things. 1. the ceramic brakes are not worth the money 2. the base carrera's brakes are already above par 3. if you do actually pay for the yellow brakes you're most likely paying for the yellow calipers.
@kshahab6: First, you have to understand that Porsche brakes are one of the best (if not the best!) there is!! So, improving the braking distance by 50cm is already very difficult!! So, 3m is huge!!!!
But, most of all, braking is more about feeling and durability than about braking distance! And for this purpose, the ceramic brakes are virtually undestructible!! (in the reality, you have to change them if you practise track very often and very hard)
Might just be me, but Jamie Castorphine comes across as a really competent and likeable presenter, along with Steve Sutcliffe. If only they had Chris Harris back, they could rival that programme on the BBC as a serious - but entertaining alternative. Keep up the good work Autocar, and I'll keep renewing my subscription : )
@kaimelis lol.. That's because Top Gear's an entertainment show, broadcast by one of the largest television networks in the world! They don't do constructive, impartial reviews. When Top Gear's been going for over a hundred years, your point may have some substance. In the meantime, please don't bother replying to me with your petty, pointless argument. Thank you, take care & have a nice day :)
Yeah it was pointless to highlight how the performance numbers differ, what I would want to hear is how they compare in terms of how they feel to drive and how much fun they each are. I'm also inclined to say that for 60k instead of 160k, the Carrera acquitted itself extremely well.
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What a pointless comparison; of course the GT2 RS is faster than a Carrera, it was built to do exctly that!! I really don't see why you should need to show this in a test, other than to provide a nice opportunity for this car journalst to test some Porsche's..
Rather pit the GT2 RS against a real rival and test it's peformance! Like the wind or something!
@frank3c03 just stfu and stop smoking whatever the fuck you're smoking, cause i've never heard anyone as dumb as you, a V6 you say LOLOLOLOLOLOL dumb ass!
There we go again and again! Every video with either Porsche, Corvette or GTR will just have other fanboys bashing and talk crap about each other. I'd love to debate about the GTR but because I love a Porsche alot I won't other wise people will get the wrong idea.
@sekis9 oh the porsche cost much more? wow, of course he does. maybe you should sit in both cars and drive them and maybe then you understand because porsches cost much more than japanese cars.
There's a simple explanation for that. It is called "the price of a brand". Levi's can charge more for their jeans despite them not being better qualiwise than many other brands. Harley Davidson were nowhere near the qualitylevels of japanese motorcycles in the 80's and 90's (and not now either), but since it was a Harley they could still charge a higher price.
A Rolls Royce Silver Spirit wasn't three times better than a Mercedes S-class, but it was a Rolls Royce!! Get it??
@AlexDeLarge90 Here you are right, too. When you buy a Porsche you also have to pay for the brand and its successes in motorsports. A bit like these expensive apples on some computers. ;)
Maybe you ought to shut the f*** up! Even the German TUV, have concluded that the cars with the least amount of trouble are Japanese. That's right. They even have less problems than the German cars. I still have that magazine, and I can grab you by your hair and force you to read it loudly, then slamming your face in it. Until you get it.
Btw, your English is abysmal. Which means that you either slept in English class or don't do too much reading English. That spells idiot.
@AlexDeLarge90 You are right. Most German cars have more troubles than Japanese cars. But please tell me what this has to do with a comparision of laptimes of 2 cars?
And i am so sorry that my English isn't as perfect as yours. Maybe you should go into our schools here and teach us, so that we all can get a "perfect English" like yours.
@Mangleus1976 why don't you fuck off and bang your head on to the next datsun car you run into ? the only christmas present i'll be getting is your moms black underwear which your dad never knew about Mowahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
If any gtr fan has a coment to post about the gtr beating cars it has no chance against then dont post the coment your thinking of because people will know its nonsense.
They are stupid or what, A carrera has nothing to do with a GT2. It's not even the same engine (I'm not talking about the horses power). They should compare a GT2 with a Turbo.
kenjikFr 2 days ago
@kenjikFr it is still a 911 ;)
Jury1111111111 20 hours ago
the best driver's car in da world.
Resnorth 2 days ago
anyone else notice the massive amount of fucking weights that were used to balance the tire at 2:32??
beeitch123 1 week ago
911 GT2 RS vs 599 GTO vs LP670-4 SV vs ZR1 on a dry day with a proper racing driver and similar tires. I would wet myself for that one :D Thumbs up if you would too
cardude1992 1 week ago
incredible machines!
MrMackingit 2 weeks ago
his upper lip is weird :S
baujahr90er 2 weeks ago
@baujahr90er shut up please
stoneeh 2 weeks ago
@stoneeh you should shut the fuck up... it was no offence but it is weird..
baujahr90er 2 weeks ago
this porsche is so underrated, all these reviews of it are making it look like shit. it got 7:18 on nubrugring no other car gets close to that. and why the fuck is this in rain thats so annoying it would shit on anything
edoloman24 3 weeks ago
is an rpg better than a rock , they both hurt but....
chuckaloz 3 weeks ago
even 4.7 isnt bad at alll
Rebo8221 3 weeks ago
I would wait a bit, and pick up a GT2 RS at a police impound auction for pennies on the dollar after the previous owner was imprisoned for a record breaking speeding ticket.
OneGuitarGuy 3 weeks ago
I would buy the carrera, then tune it for 80k and still save 20k
saxaza97 4 weeks ago
@saxaza97 and what you would have at the end of the day is still a Carrera that probably still isn't as quick as a GT2 RS. And even if it could match it in a straight line, which I doubt, it would still corner like a Carrera. Wouldn't you rather just save up for a bit longer until you get that 20k then buy a GT2 RS or something awesome
charlesholzy 2 weeks ago
I wonder why 0-60 is so important. I should think acceleration while you're already moving would mean more in the real world.
PACKyourSHITfolks420 1 month ago 12
@PACKyourSHITfolks420 the americans use a 1 foot roll out 0-60mph to measure this and i agree that it would give you a more realistic idea of the cars speed
fa51but 1 month ago
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MewCun 2 weeks ago
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@PACKyourSHITfolks420 It's not important - but it's a benchmark that a layman can appreciate. Hence why it's used
MewCun 2 weeks ago
@PACKyourSHITfolks420 Obviously you haven't driven a GT2
LiamCampbell13 3 days ago
@PACKyourSHITfolks420 Because it's a measure of everything, grip, acceleration etc. Testing a cars 0-60 means going from nothing, to a standard speed and seeing what happens, it's not about realism.
bouncerthemut 6 hours ago
Uh yea it'd b worth it... If u can afford it. The rest of the world will keep dreamin...
whitecenter220 1 month ago
From a physics point of view the engine in the 911 is actually in the best place. It's the hardest layout to harness as it lends itself to knife edge handling at the limit but technically the best.
hunghuge12 1 month ago
@hunghuge12 no, best place for engine is in the middle
GR3B3N 1 month ago
@GR3B3N yeah and because of that the designers of the corvette are thinking of making it mid-engined...which will kill off the corvette in my opinion
bond1011 1 month ago
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@GR3B3N yeah and because of that the designers of the corvette are thinking of making it mid-engined...which will kill off the corvette in my opinion
bond1011 1 month ago
People love talking about how the engine is in the wrong place on 911's at one point in time that might have been a reasonable argument...one thing you cant argue with is a 7:18 around the Nurburgring. aka faster than any road ferrari, lamborghini, pagani, maserati, mercedes, bmw, audi, ford, and chevrolet. Sometimes wrong can be right i guess
ChrisToddRed 1 month ago
I would buy the carrera ...
gstaraftari 1 month ago
the fact is: UK is not the place to test cars lol.
Humance 1 month ago
"Is the GT2 RS £100k better than the Carrera?'' what a silly question. the last percentile of any perfection is, was and will forever be the most expesive. It is better. So if you think you need this little ertrasomething - go for it. Anyway, I´m sure that not even one percent of you all posting silly shit are able to expere the boundaries of a basic carrera. So go for it.
himoroyden 1 month ago
The line the two drivers are taking through the corners is completely different.... whoever was driving the regular 911 wasn't even trying (or has no skill)... not an even comparison ... still a great glimpse of the GT2 RS's amazing attributes though. What a car!!
anbeti 1 month ago
No, the GT2 RS couldn't be the F1 Safety car, because a lot of F1 team will protest against that, because the RS would be faster than their own F1 machines!
RamboLambo002 1 month ago 11
@RamboLambo002 ha ha ha ha ha! Not a chance
god084 1 month ago
@RamboLambo002 F1 car 0-60 is 2 seconds and can hit a topspeed of 210 mph... check ur math!
maximilianboo 6 days ago
@maximilianboo
He was exaggerating to make a point captain obvious.
powripper 3 days ago
@RamboLambo002 The problem is the aerodynamics. And also business contract with mercedes.
kenjikFr 2 days ago
So a more powerful and more sporty version of a 911 is faster than a standard 911.
Now then it is quite the info you've got there.
Duron13 2 months ago
911 GT2 should be the F1 'safety car'
lilo689 2 months ago 3
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casual1324 2 months ago
Turbo s vs gt2rs plz
jokernoob2 2 months ago
this is one of the most boring reviews i have ever seen... not used to this from autocar...
The GT2 RS deserves a better review guys...
Acid113377 2 months ago
Impossible to have it in Italy road tax for 600 cv = 6000€
EMANUELE997 3 months ago
Could you please just test cars like these in the dry? Damp conditions are just boring and irrelevant to watch. We (I) want to see what they are like maxed out!
acana79 4 months ago
thats what i hate about UK car reviews, always wet tracks...
Hazukro 5 months ago
at the beginning that drift was amazing
th3dogkid 6 months ago
This is why I work hard in school.
NicksCorvetteMan 7 months ago 2
This is Porsche's way of sticking the middle finger up to Nissan when they said the GT-R's main rival was the 911, pfft. GT2 RS is in the 458 Italia's league, perhaps Nissan should try rivaling R8s and F430s, not even the 2012 GT-R could hold it's own against this beast. Always loved the 911.
MCmopman 7 months ago
@MCmopman uhm, I think the 458 Italia's league is too low for the GT2 RS
HateWhatISee 7 months ago
@MCmopman The GT2 RS has 90hp more and weighs 400kg less than the GT-R, yet it's only slightly faster. Do you know anything about cars? The GT-R destroys the R8 and F430 around the track, the 2012 is even faster than an Enzo. The 458 isn't even in the same league as the GT2 RS.
12389h 6 months ago
@12389h the GT-R has satnav, 11 stereospeakers with subwoofer etc dont forget to mention stuff like that :p also got the GT-R specv btw
mkampinga 6 months ago
@mkampinga Judging by laptimes the Spec-V hasn't really been put through it's paces.
12389h 6 months ago
The Carrera is even slower than the Cayman R, how the hell it can beat out the GT2-RS in straight line acceleration.
fctsui57 7 months ago
Why such a humiliation was needed? GT2 RS is even faster than Carrera GT! :)
PilotJohnSilver 7 months ago
Why do these guys test what we already know from the specs? Doesn't this seem to you a little dumb?
frutiboy1 8 months ago
I'd have both Carrera PDK for weekdays and GT2RS for weekends :-)
MagicAyrtonforever 8 months ago 2
Cant compare the carrera with the gt2 rs come on if I had the money ill pay the difference eveytime.
jezza1789 8 months ago
i would def have the 911 gt3 rs 4.0...best 911 so far
justforwatchingcraps 8 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps in fact, the GT3 and the GT2 are from the 997 series..
Andrei3646 8 months ago
@Andrei3646 ......ok...and?
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps I don't remember! It was 5 months ago..
Andrei3646 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps you are dumb the gt2rs takes big fat shits on it
edoloman24 3 months ago
@edoloman24 you are a 12 year old who doesn't know how to drive, so you would say that
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps please tell me how its better if your so smart
edoloman24 3 months ago
@edoloman24 umm because its made for the track with balance in mind, not just a science experiment to see how much power can be squeezed out of the motor....it doesn't have turbos so the power and torque distribution through the rev range is more linear...driving this car will definitely be harder to get all that power down and not lose control where as the gt3 rs 4.0 will be like a race car, i guarantee the gt3 will be like glue around the same corners where this car would spin out...
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@edoloman24 /watch?v=1SIWuA2qH9s
"....greatest 911 of this current generation? absolutely. it might just be the greatest 911 ever..."
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@edoloman24 /watch?v=tQ_dfB2HrNw
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps that doesnt say shit ur dumb.
edoloman24 3 months ago
@edoloman24 .........
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps state reasons why the gt3rs is better than gt2rs. i can give u one reasons otherwise. gt3rs/450hp gt2rs611hp
edoloman24 3 months ago
@edoloman24 ....are you having a stroke? i just told u and i gave you links to 2 reviews of the gt3 rs 4.0...u probably didn't even know there was a difference between the 4.0 or the 3.8...i can tell because you sound like you have a hard time retaining information
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
@justforwatchingcraps okay even the 4.0 is still worse ur not telling me how its better
edoloman24 3 months ago
@edoloman24 die.
justforwatchingcraps 3 months ago
I liked the beginning!
TheGreatXanadu 8 months ago
sooooooooooo nice porshe gt2 rs
MrCrazycal 8 months ago
hows the regular 2 or 2s in the rain?
sidhucer00789 9 months ago
Porsche 2012 4.0 gt3 is the best car under $180,000.If I was worth a few mil,it would be the first thing I would order tomorrow!
fadethetrade 9 months ago
I'd save the money & go for the n/a GT3 RS.
danthemanpatrick 10 months ago
This is the best Autocar reporter by a wide margin, much better than the usual fat guy.
DrPilotRedC 10 months ago
0-100 takes 7.1 on damp track?
ARTaken007 10 months ago
I followed a GT2 RS yesterday. I gave him the thumbs up, he nodded, slowed down and blasted past into the horizon. It sounded like a fighter jet. Incredible!!
It was a black one with black wheels. It was on the A140 to Ipswich on 23rd April 2011. (The reg was 96 RS)
What a sight, will probably never see one again.
rxs10000 10 months ago 31
@rxs10000 I heard that in real life they really do sound very similar to a jet fighter, good observation. :D
matty2k001 10 months ago
@rxs10000 yeah. i definitely know what you mean. i live in America, you're about 10,000x more likely to see a corvette than a gt2rs. Ive only seen one in a gray color. it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paladain55 1 month ago
@paladain55 Yeah it is an amazing car- certainly a rare spot. Mind you, we dont get many Corvettes over here at all! I'd love to see either!
rxs10000 1 month ago
@rxs10000 yeeeeep. i want a c5 vette..... but my dad doesnt want me to have one. idk cause my mom was like yeah do it. he wants me to get a mustang gt and my mom wants an infiniti g35 (basically nissan 350z w/ 4 seats, or a skyline 250gt)
paladain55 4 weeks ago
@rxs10000 I saw one too, on my Birthday.
I was in Downtown, Vancouver walking to a building then I saw this beautiful silver GT2 RS and couldn't keep my eyes off it. Too bad the GT2 RS is extremely limited -.-
SwonzX 2 weeks ago
It should be GT2 RS vs Carrera GT.Although the GT has a V10 and the GT2 a V6,they roughly have 612+ BHP.They're both made from light materials,both RWD and both can reach 200+ MPH,they are both neck and neck =)
speedenforcer918 11 months ago
@speedenforcer918 What V6? it's a flat six.
mattyoz0 10 months ago
@mattyoz0 Oh sorry,I always mix up with those two
speedenforcer918 10 months ago
911s are great cars. so many choices. it just depends on your pocket book lol
worldtravel101 11 months ago
the beginning drift was EPIC
DocHavoc0512 11 months ago 79
@DocHavoc0512 Amen to that!
likeawhispr 2 months ago
@DocHavoc0512 epic this, epic that, epic the other. Fucking EPIC.
ballickmoyler 1 month ago
@DocHavoc0512 Insane.
Pikudo64 1 month ago
What is he talking about?! A 2011 base Carrera is about 100,000.00 and the GT2 RS is 250,000.00!!!! (USD)
Truemoderate 11 months ago
@Truemoderate It's a British show, which means prices are in pounds...
Themanwe 11 months ago
@Truemoderate $100,000 for a base Carrera? What have you been smoking? The Porsche website right now cites the base Carrera as having a starting MSRP of just over $77,000. The first car in the 911 line that goes six-digit is the Carrera S Cabriolet, and the first hard-top to cross the hundred-thousand mark is the Carrera GTS. A good half of the Porsche 911 range starts under $100,000 and while that may very well go up with their infamous options list, it'd be hard to get a $100k Carrera 2.
JETZcorp 10 months ago
Pros: Everything except...
Con: It's limited edition.
thejan4129 1 year ago
carrera is a fast car already gt2rs is something insane so give me what you don't want hehe
carl206rc 1 year ago
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iluminatus09 1 year ago
Other than the 993 turbo, this gt2 is the best looking Porsche I have ever seen
chrisfullofsteel 1 year ago
THIS RS IS MY FAVOURITE CAR BY FAR
cllcn888 1 year ago 2
nissan ghey-tr sux
nakayama3d 1 year ago
useless comparison..they would have chosen the Turbo which is closer to the GT2 RS, but the basic Carrera is far behind
mou3adh 1 year ago
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zhbroder 1 year ago
I'd be happy with the basic Carrera and so would my insurance company...Ok I lied maybe I'd upgrade to the Carrera S.
SPMNDK89 1 year ago
my full upgraded 911 GT2, 830 hp, at 2.9 sec from 0 to 60:
/watch?v=QMoM9491C-U
also see my 2005 Ferrari FXX stock car racing on:
/watch?v=nlBRjVNM_-w
jpzhouutube 1 year ago
1) 458 Italia
2) 911 GT2 RS
3)LP570-4
buttnut1080 1 year ago
"can the extra performance justify the 100 k extra on the pricetag?" If u`r a billionaire,and money means nothing why not? 620 bhp is always better than 340.....
But seriously,i think "average joe" will have much more fun and feeling of mastering the car in a GT3 than this "psychopat Porsche":P it even LOOKS intimidating.And to quote junkiejay3000:"Jamie Castorphine comes across as a really competent and likeable presenter, along with Steve Sutcliffe"
35yearoldboy 1 year ago
the ceramic brakes that porsche offeres really puzzle me. the base carrera has porsche's lowly black coloured brakes. while the carrera s has the better red brakes. the gt2 rs has the $9000 ceramic brake option and it only stops 3 meters shorter than the carrera. this can only mean three things. 1. the ceramic brakes are not worth the money 2. the base carrera's brakes are already above par 3. if you do actually pay for the yellow brakes you're most likely paying for the yellow calipers.
kshahab6 1 year ago
@kshahab6: First, you have to understand that Porsche brakes are one of the best (if not the best!) there is!! So, improving the braking distance by 50cm is already very difficult!! So, 3m is huge!!!!
But, most of all, braking is more about feeling and durability than about braking distance! And for this purpose, the ceramic brakes are virtually undestructible!! (in the reality, you have to change them if you practise track very often and very hard)
And last thing, they are much more lighter!
Kheops63 1 year ago
Might just be me, but Jamie Castorphine comes across as a really competent and likeable presenter, along with Steve Sutcliffe. If only they had Chris Harris back, they could rival that programme on the BBC as a serious - but entertaining alternative. Keep up the good work Autocar, and I'll keep renewing my subscription : )
JunkieJay3000 1 year ago 91
@JunkieJay3000 It's not just you :)
00haze 1 year ago
@JunkieJay3000 yes its just you.
kaimelis 1 year ago
@kaimelis Evidently not, from the 36 thumbs up I now see my comment's received. Troll along..
JunkieJay3000 1 year ago
@JunkieJay3000 exactly which is pathetic. check how much thumbs top gear comments have. and views for that matter.
kaimelis 1 year ago
@kaimelis lol.. That's because Top Gear's an entertainment show, broadcast by one of the largest television networks in the world! They don't do constructive, impartial reviews. When Top Gear's been going for over a hundred years, your point may have some substance. In the meantime, please don't bother replying to me with your petty, pointless argument. Thank you, take care & have a nice day :)
JunkieJay3000 1 year ago
@JunkieJay3000 i agree. this is possibly the best performance car review i have ever seen
DumpValvesAndDnB 6 months ago
Yeah it was pointless to highlight how the performance numbers differ, what I would want to hear is how they compare in terms of how they feel to drive and how much fun they each are. I'm also inclined to say that for 60k instead of 160k, the Carrera acquitted itself extremely well.
kamakazisj 1 year ago
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StreetRacingAlert 1 year ago
i would swap my house for a gt2rs
TigerSupercatE1 1 year ago
watch?v=ZHB7_kzPvRM
2 door Porsche Cayenne TUNED MERDAD STYLE!
MerdadCollectionsUK 1 year ago
nice drift at the start and at the end )
XtaticVideo 1 year ago
@XtaticVideo its the same drift
ModelCarShow 1 year ago
@ModelCarShow I know) just amazing
XtaticVideo 1 year ago
@XtaticVideo agreed, porsche makes some of the best cars on earth
ModelCarShow 1 year ago
This comparison was pointless, Ferrari 599 GTO vs GT2RS or Lamborghini LP670-4 SV wouldve been better :P but reagardless solid review!
hyperkkt 1 year ago
What a pointless comparison; of course the GT2 RS is faster than a Carrera, it was built to do exctly that!! I really don't see why you should need to show this in a test, other than to provide a nice opportunity for this car journalst to test some Porsche's..
Rather pit the GT2 RS against a real rival and test it's peformance! Like the wind or something!
kurtiejjj 1 year ago
A quand une gt2 v10 ou v12 sans turbo?
LUGUBRUCE 1 year ago
@LUGUBRUCE Porsche GT2 is V6 Twin/Bi Turbo
frank3c03 1 year ago
@frank3c03 V6 belongs to shit cars like datsun gtr that tend to blow up in the long run
nakayama3d 1 year ago
@nakayama3d You're an idiot, Porsche dont need a massive engine to do the same/BETTER than ferrari or lambo.
That's what they name "Porsche Magic" V6 vs V12 That's not fair, but porsche Wins anyways! Retarded.
frank3c03 1 year ago
@frank3c03 just stfu and stop smoking whatever the fuck you're smoking, cause i've never heard anyone as dumb as you, a V6 you say LOLOLOLOLOLOL dumb ass!
nakayama3d 1 year ago
@nakayama3d
Yeah, that's why Porsche uses a V6 (from Volkswagen) in their Cayenne.
Troll or genuine fool? Which one is it??
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago 2
@McLarenMercedes V6 ? how old are you again, son ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
nakayama3d 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes It´s not a V6.
mrcanteli 1 year ago
@mrcanteli yes it is.
Wlycoyote14 11 months ago
@Wlycoyote14 It´s a flat-6 not a V6 a world of difference 911 engines are not V
mrcanteli 11 months ago
@frank3c03 All 911's use a Flat 6, not a V6. Hence the boxer wail.
DissidentCitizen 1 year ago
@DissidentCitizen The only diference is that Flat are horizontally-opposed Cylinders that's all idiot
frank3c03 1 year ago
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mrcanteli 11 months ago
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mrcanteli 11 months ago
@frank3c03 It´s a flat-6 not a V6
mrcanteli 11 months ago
the beetle looks great in black...i would buy one...but then, the audi R8 V10 exist...
shobin05 1 year ago
Carrera to GT3 RS is made smart engineers in Germany, the GT2 and the GT2 RS is made by MADMAN... I JUST LOVE IT!!!
kevin52495kc 1 year ago
Carrera ~ GT3 RS is made by the smartest engineer, the GT2 RS is made by a 5 year old.... I LOVE IT!!!
kevin52495kc 1 year ago
ok. and wheres the carrera?!?
rationalconscience 1 year ago
GT2 rs look better
watmyung 1 year ago
of course it's better are those in autocar stupid or what comparing GT2 RS with Carrera they should compare it with GT3 RS or Carrera GT
2SS6 1 year ago
another gr8 episode, but guys seriously you need to change the intro,
nowornever81 1 year ago
I don't understand why they test performance cars in the fucking wet.
garrettej8 1 year ago
i allready will be glad to have that white Carrera :D!
Patrick24031976 1 year ago
if you love porsches, thank a german the next time you see one
Schwarze999 1 year ago
@Schwarze999
Dear German.
Thank you for destroying my country.. 2 times..
But if you give me a gt 2 rs we will forget about it!!
Cheers from a porsche lover.
Everyday1Normal1Guy 1 year ago
I`ll have one GT3 RS,one 997 turbo(gen.2) and one Cayenne turbo S.Thank you.
35yearoldboy 1 year ago
There we go again and again! Every video with either Porsche, Corvette or GTR will just have other fanboys bashing and talk crap about each other. I'd love to debate about the GTR but because I love a Porsche alot I won't other wise people will get the wrong idea.
TangoR34 1 year ago
5:09 DAMN!
TwinTurboSystem 1 year ago
dam who the driver?? drift run soo smooth_ takes some awsom skills to drift wet
MrLoose26 1 year ago
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What a great discussion about the GTR and the GT2 RS. Why don't you compare teh laptimes? Let's see how fast they are on the Nordschleife:
GTR: 7:38
GT2 RS: 7:24
Looks like the Posche owned the japanese toycar.
MeisterYodarkus 1 year ago
@MeisterYodarkus
GT2 RS : 164.000 pound
GTR : 70.000 pound with extras
you do the math, or should i do it for you?
sekis9 1 year ago
@sekis9
its not a family car but a supercar!
sow you can expect super prices!
and you forget high taxes insurance and maintaince prices sow you already know its only if you have money!
also if forgot resale.
thats how you know the REAL price of a car.
Everyday1Normal1Guy 1 year ago
@sekis9 oh the porsche cost much more? wow, of course he does. maybe you should sit in both cars and drive them and maybe then you understand because porsches cost much more than japanese cars.
MeisterYodarkus 1 year ago
@MeisterYodarkus
There's a simple explanation for that. It is called "the price of a brand". Levi's can charge more for their jeans despite them not being better qualiwise than many other brands. Harley Davidson were nowhere near the qualitylevels of japanese motorcycles in the 80's and 90's (and not now either), but since it was a Harley they could still charge a higher price.
A Rolls Royce Silver Spirit wasn't three times better than a Mercedes S-class, but it was a Rolls Royce!! Get it??
AlexDeLarge90 1 year ago
@AlexDeLarge90 Here you are right, too. When you buy a Porsche you also have to pay for the brand and its successes in motorsports. A bit like these expensive apples on some computers. ;)
MeisterYodarkus 1 year ago
@MeisterYodarkus
Maybe you ought to shut the f*** up! Even the German TUV, have concluded that the cars with the least amount of trouble are Japanese. That's right. They even have less problems than the German cars. I still have that magazine, and I can grab you by your hair and force you to read it loudly, then slamming your face in it. Until you get it.
Btw, your English is abysmal. Which means that you either slept in English class or don't do too much reading English. That spells idiot.
AlexDeLarge90 1 year ago
@AlexDeLarge90 You are right. Most German cars have more troubles than Japanese cars. But please tell me what this has to do with a comparision of laptimes of 2 cars?
And i am so sorry that my English isn't as perfect as yours. Maybe you should go into our schools here and teach us, so that we all can get a "perfect English" like yours.
MeisterYodarkus 1 year ago
@MeisterYodarkus
Perhaps, but at more than TWICE the price, it'd better do it.
You can tune a GTR to Veyron equalling performance and it will still be cheaper than the GT2RS.
When it comes to performance compared to the price, the GTR is in a league of its own.
And now you are FLAGGED to, for littering the net with fanboy gibberish. Troglodyte.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
u cant slag the gtr,its a great car
HENRYHOBBS1 1 year ago 2
@Mangleus1976 why don't you fuck off and bang your head on to the next datsun car you run into ? the only christmas present i'll be getting is your moms black underwear which your dad never knew about Mowahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
nakayama3d 1 year ago
If any gtr fan has a coment to post about the gtr beating cars it has no chance against then dont post the coment your thinking of because people will know its nonsense.
Towelman20 1 year ago
@Towelman20
So right. No matter how much better the GTR is in numbers. Porsche Engineering is always the best!
TangoR34 1 year ago
wow in comparo the base car is is peice of shit faggots!
horizontalfour 1 year ago