Survival Gardening 7, nuclear war, homesteading, survivalist, food storage

[MrJmfitch]

interesting insight. Never thought about sustainment agriculture in terms such as "concealment". Good stuff.

[professornuclearbomb]

Finally a person who talks about surviving AFTER the bombs start flying.

[nvydvr81]

@Luvanicebum you my friend, are 100% right. and it needs to be for at least a couple weeks, to really break down the systems.

[JessClearwater]

With "hideability" what I'm doing is mixing edible foods (that look a bit funny like heirloom tomatoes etc) with inedible foods. If scavengers come along, everything is going to look a bit strange to them and they're going to probably eat a mix of edible and inedible foods... and get sick from it. There's plenty of poisonous berries and such that look REALLY appetising. And a lot of strange looking vegetables that don't look so appetising.

Jess (Australia)

[SurvivalReport]

@JessClearwater Good post, thanks. Problem is what if your child, wife/hubby or Aunt Edna that stops by doesn't know the difference between the "good stuff" and the "bad stuff?"

[Engineer245]

@JessClearwater Good idea but the target plants should just make scavengers sick and not kill them. So, with the children we do what has been done for thousands of years. We teach our kids what to eat and what not to eat. If this disobey they get sick and they learn to listen. We tell our extended family not to pick from our garden without us there. After all it is our garden not theirs. We will share but if our rules are followed!

[ReadyPrepper]

Epsom salt prevents bloom rot. It's a main ingredient in Miracle Grow. But, it doesn't take much to do the job. Miracle Grow is 18-18-21. there is a generic version also. I stock up on it. It makes sense to buy about 20 boxes of it and have it on hand. 20 boxes would last me about 3 years. It goes a long way. But don't use it on potatoes or carrots unless they are grown for their seeds. You'll have huge plants and tiny, or zero spuds...too much nitrogen.

[ReadyPrepper]

Iceberg lettuce is almost devoid of nutrients. It's a complete waste of money. lettuce with a purple hue has much more nutritional value. Iceberg lettuce is grown hydroponically on a massive scale for sale to our massive markets. It's as useless as the junk tomatoes you get in the store. I don't plant any veggie or fruit that is not an heirloom.

[rainbowwarriorwoman]

lettuce can be dried and used in a cream of lettuce soup or mixed with peas for a great soup.

Sandy

[figato]

Growing lettuce for survival is pointless.

[SurvivalReport]

@figato Yes and no. No for the reasons I clearly point out- no way to store, little food value, etc. Yes (for us) because it's a cold weather crop, truly the first "fresh" foods we have in the late winter is salads. Lettuce is also so simple a monkey could grow it. If your limited in space it might not be worthwhile though.

[MBillCylle]

@SurvivalReport "so simple a monkey could grow it" insert " so simple a caveman could do it" ,Yuk, Yuk!.....sorry couldn't help it.....er, Nuclear winter, living underground.....well, seemed funny at the time.

Good Luck, Friends

[RamessesR]

@figato

i guess eating is pointless too.

[everelusive9]

Isn't it ridiculous that we, the citizens that fund government and their weaponry development, have to fear the consequences of weapons that we have paid to develop.

Mabey it's time to rethink our submission to the powers that be.

Government. "Govern" means"to control"....."ment" means "mind". "Government" literally means mind control. Wake up folks, you're being had.

[dave777blaster]

You failed to mention varieties

Varieties are a very important factor

for example some potatoes will be an early crop

some are a medium crop and others are a long crop.

the difference is enormous

As the early and mid season crops will tend to be a lot smaller than the long season crops.

I prefer heirloom varieties .

[dave777blaster]

Nuclear war?

there will be no outdoor gardening  during a Nuclear war especially in the northern Hemisphere.

[SurvivalReport]

It should be avoided most places for the first year where possible. This is why it's important to have a REAL food storage program, not a "2 weeks to the FEMA camp" plan.

[sinsarcasmo]

Exactly!!!

[FRUMOSUN]

thanks for the preperation wisdom and knowledge...be fruitful,and multiply!

[IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

listen to marke koernke on libertytree radio with live365 late after noons

keep up to speed on whats going on

[SurvivalReport]

Mark is an AWESOME GUY! Thanks

[Learnthebush]

This Canadian agrees with you brother.

if you dont exercise the rights, they will be taken, and if you let yourself believe some things are not needed, you'll realize they might have been once you can never get them back.

i love my country but we have had a few things taken away "for the better good" or what they think is good for us,

and we'll never get them back

DONT BUDGE FOR A SECOND

[Learnthebush]

sorry i think i might have posted in the wrong place lol

[ShannCole888]

A suggestion might be,to research,and locate as many likely targets of Nuclear,Biological,or any form of attack.Some considerations may be:Communications,Missile Silos,Population Densities,such as major cities,look for a poplutaion map,that shows you where the most heavily populated areas are,Military Bases,Government Facilities,Industrial assests:Sea Ports,Oil,Gas,Coal,Steel,

Agriculture,exc,Fema Centers,Disaster Relief areas,Military Zones,and anything else you can think of as a Red Zone

[M249SAWzALL]

The TV show jericho has a likely scenario as a backdrop, 23 out of 25 planned cities gets nuked, govt falls apart, anarchy ensues, it's more than a TV show it's a survival manual! lol

[ItsaUFOduh]

very interesting blog. by the way, you mentioned noticeability of crops and i was wondering why that is an issue. were you expecting your crops to be raided or something?

[SurvivalReport]

Is that not a possible issue in a disaster? Are there not news articles NOW regarding people's vegetables being stolen from their gardens? Yes on both accounts.

[stepherz76]

I went on a weekend get-away last October. I had this massive, gorgeous pumpkin in my garden that I decided not to pick before I left. When I got back, there was a big open spot where the pumpkin once was. Unbelievable! Someone stole my pumpkin.

I was especially sad because last year was my first attempt at a garden and that was my first (and only) pumpkin. So if someone will steal a huge pumpkin out of your garden just for fun, what would they do if they were actually HUNGRY?

[melvyd2]

If we reach the point we have to hide & fight for our food (And We Might)..I would prefer to be one of the lucky who was vaporized in seconds at ground zero. Also wouldn't mulitple blasts in the USA render the ground useless from the fallout?

[SurvivalReport]

No not necessarily. Areas around the blasts and immediately downwind will be pretty much useless for a while without serious decontamination efforts. Yet another reason to move away from the city.

[mannytwoshoes]

To melvyd2: Simple, just move to the big city. You'll be starved, irradiated, or flu'd.

So much depends on political leadership, or the lack thereof. Chemtrails cover the sky again here this morning - a bad portent. With proper leadership, we face severe depression. With the typical poor leadership, much worse.

Thanks to SurvivalReport for posting very positive and beneficial info.

[melvyd2]

mannytwoshoes:I don't know, seems like people are wasting the life they have now worrying about the future. Y2K was almost 10 years ago now & was going to be the end for all of us. 10 years is a lot of living time. If & when the shit hits the fan,I think all plans will be out the door anyway. Radiation, no sun, weather...these things will present problems no one planned for. I remember being a depressed kid in the ealy 70's from adults proclaiming the end is at the door

[mannytwoshoes]

Yes, "live for today".

[SnowPrincess2009]

What does the word "survivalist" mean? Does it mean that you have food in storage in case of a war or that you are putting food away for your family. Because food prices are high. I just happen by these tapes on youtube last week. Just curious. Thanks.

[SurvivalReport]

Someone who prepares for bad times, be it a full scale crash of the economy, terrorism or even a prolonged loss of job. There is varying levels of "seriousness" to which people take preparedness/survivalism. Some think a "3 day kit" is enough, others are prepared to feed there families for many years. Some prepare for religious reasons (End times), some prepare for economic disturbances, some for natural disturbances. The idea of having a year of food isn't new- the pioneers lived that way.

[Thunderwavia]

Potato!!!! Though it would depend the type of soil and climate.

[SurvivalReport]

Potatoes were covered in the list.

[InTheSticks1881]

:O)