@Camaysar22 , I had thought repeated notes were not allowed. Good to know they were.. Thanks for the info. After all, this 12 tone rule allowed more creativity than i thought..
@Klautenbogg Of course it goes without saying that each composer utilizes the 12-tone idea as he sees fit. The Piano Concerto is a late work, with repeats in the opening theme and elsewhere. Berg's Violin Concerto has famous repeats in the opening, not even stating the row in strict order (opening violin solo row notes: 1-3-5-7-7-5-3-1-1). As "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath", so the tone row was made for the composer!
@Ciaobebbo050: It's not quite a "twelve tone piece". In order to be so, they are not allowed to repeat the same notes before they exhausted all 12. Here he was repeating the same notes lot of times, almost obsessively. He was probably not yet decided which rules he wanted to use...
@syaoranpies Give them more time, at first it feels awkward and weird, makes you uneasy at best, but with time you get used to it. Then you will get addicted to it.
Glad you appreciate this masterpiece. For another, more "Romantic" example of a 12-tone concerto, try the Violin Concerto of Alban Berg (many recordings.. I like Joseph Szigeti). Enjoy your discoveries!
I had recently read up on various uses of the chromatic twelve-tone scale to improve my metal musicianship, ironically enough, I end up discovering some truly unnerving classical music instead. I'm now putting together a playlist of twelve-tone music I can use to create a creepy/horrifying atmosphere for game night with my friends, and this video will be on it.
Good choice lol. Don't forget Anton Webern. For example, his 5 Pieces for Orchestra, while not yet strict 12-tone, would fill your bill nicely.... especially the creepy part.
Thanks. That's actually just what I needed to round out my soundtrack. Most of Schoenberg's stuff seems really intense and dramatic. Webern's music seems to have a more subdued quality, perfect for those tense moments in quiet spaces, when you expect something to jump out at you at any moment.
Very convincing version. I think I have all the market available recordings of this work, but your interpretation made me discover new and very true possibilities for this beautiful music. Congratulations! Which is the orchestra and conductor, by the way? Saludos desde Chile.
@Camaysar22 , I had thought repeated notes were not allowed. Good to know they were.. Thanks for the info. After all, this 12 tone rule allowed more creativity than i thought..
Klautenbogg 9 months ago
@Klautenbogg Of course it goes without saying that each composer utilizes the 12-tone idea as he sees fit. The Piano Concerto is a late work, with repeats in the opening theme and elsewhere. Berg's Violin Concerto has famous repeats in the opening, not even stating the row in strict order (opening violin solo row notes: 1-3-5-7-7-5-3-1-1). As "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath", so the tone row was made for the composer!
camaysar222 9 months ago
@Ciaobebbo050: It's not quite a "twelve tone piece". In order to be so, they are not allowed to repeat the same notes before they exhausted all 12. Here he was repeating the same notes lot of times, almost obsessively. He was probably not yet decided which rules he wanted to use...
Klautenbogg 9 months ago
@Klautenbogg This work is indeed a twelve-tone work. Repeated notes from the row were "allowed".
camaysar222 9 months ago
omg i hate 12 tone pieces....
syaoranpies 1 year ago
@syaoranpies Give them more time, at first it feels awkward and weird, makes you uneasy at best, but with time you get used to it. Then you will get addicted to it.
NevinJarek 1 year ago
This is my first encounter with a twelve-tone piece...it blew me away, brilliant, very well played too
ciaobebbo050 1 year ago
Glad you appreciate this masterpiece. For another, more "Romantic" example of a 12-tone concerto, try the Violin Concerto of Alban Berg (many recordings.. I like Joseph Szigeti). Enjoy your discoveries!
camaysar222 1 year ago
I had recently read up on various uses of the chromatic twelve-tone scale to improve my metal musicianship, ironically enough, I end up discovering some truly unnerving classical music instead. I'm now putting together a playlist of twelve-tone music I can use to create a creepy/horrifying atmosphere for game night with my friends, and this video will be on it.
darnpenguin 2 years ago
Good choice lol. Don't forget Anton Webern. For example, his 5 Pieces for Orchestra, while not yet strict 12-tone, would fill your bill nicely.... especially the creepy part.
camaysar222 2 years ago
Thanks. That's actually just what I needed to round out my soundtrack. Most of Schoenberg's stuff seems really intense and dramatic. Webern's music seems to have a more subdued quality, perfect for those tense moments in quiet spaces, when you expect something to jump out at you at any moment.
darnpenguin 2 years ago
Very convincing version. I think I have all the market available recordings of this work, but your interpretation made me discover new and very true possibilities for this beautiful music. Congratulations! Which is the orchestra and conductor, by the way? Saludos desde Chile.
schnittkemozart 2 years ago
Thank you! Y saludos tambien desde Nueva York.
camaysar222 2 years ago
Well done! I loved this!
NewMusicXX 3 years ago