This drummer and his previous band Helmet are so underrated. This guy has influenced numerous drummers in the 90s and still does. For me, he is an amazing drummer.
Agreed and as I've posted in other places, I think he's the best drummer in the world. Nobody's even close. He's just fu#!ing brilliant here. Great song, great performance
The drums are in 4/4, the looped guitar begins in 3/4, and the other guitars play in 3/4. They phase apart and come back together every 3 bars of 4/4 or 4 bars of 3/4 (4x3=12)
The pattern is simple enough that no counting is required; the rhythm isn't really tricky. The complexity in this song issues not merely from off-kilter timing but from the layering of the different elements that are superficially disparate but congeal into a unified musical structure. Don't embarrass yourself by criticizing these seasoned musicians (one of whom is the bona-fide genius of Don Caballero) on the same grounds one would criticize The Dillinger Escape Plan.
damn, i keep trying to hear it in 4/4, but i'm nearly possitive it's 3/4. it's just those hats keep landing on every 4 beats, so it lands on 1 the first measure, then 2, then 3, but yea, also, that guitar pulse at the beginning is on 1 and 3 so it kinda makes it sound like 4. i didn't even question it until i read your comment and that just made it so much better to listen to.
airbagabe, i dont think you understand what battles are all about. it may seem nonsensical (not a word) and assorted at first, but take another listen and you find the underlying mathematics of these songs quite beautiful and just plain progressive in regards to the formulas of most other music today, the end.
@caida815 come on man, it's just not good to listen to. i completely understand what they're doing, but there are better ways to push the boundaries than this kind of thing.
All of these guys are legends especially Stanier. Lynx was great, Don Cab w/ Ian and Tyondai's solo work was/is great as well. For these guys to pull it off together is amazing to me. Egos could easily get in the way of the music but they don't. Beautiful!
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astroman2012 1 year ago
keeping up with the album version (on drums) is hard enough but this is at least 1.5 times faster. i need to see this band live.
gutsofmuts 2 years ago 3
This drummer and his previous band Helmet are so underrated. This guy has influenced numerous drummers in the 90s and still does. For me, he is an amazing drummer.
izokin 3 years ago 3
Agreed and as I've posted in other places, I think he's the best drummer in the world. Nobody's even close. He's just fu#!ing brilliant here. Great song, great performance
swjl587 2 years ago
amazing band
zemechanism 3 years ago
The drums are in 4/4, the looped guitar begins in 3/4, and the other guitars play in 3/4. They phase apart and come back together every 3 bars of 4/4 or 4 bars of 3/4 (4x3=12)
armitagecake 3 years ago 2
our ideas of "groovy" highly differ.
I'd love to hear a band that can make thick funk in polyrhythm, though.
pinholedstars 3 years ago
is there metric modulation in this song?
zemechanism 3 years ago
theres so much going on in this, how can you be bored?
numchucksteve 3 years ago
by being more interesting urself lol
cybeavertoo 3 years ago
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no music just counting
cybeavertoo 4 years ago
do you struggle to count to 6?
danablett 3 years ago 2
;) u only listen to the drummer?
cybeavertoo 3 years ago
well in this case it doesnt matter much if u listen to the drummer or the other instruments ;)
cybeavertoo 3 years ago
i just expressed my opinion that music will not emerge out of countability, but out of sensitivity. But thx, no struggles here.
cybeavertoo 3 years ago
@cybeavertoo
The pattern is simple enough that no counting is required; the rhythm isn't really tricky. The complexity in this song issues not merely from off-kilter timing but from the layering of the different elements that are superficially disparate but congeal into a unified musical structure. Don't embarrass yourself by criticizing these seasoned musicians (one of whom is the bona-fide genius of Don Caballero) on the same grounds one would criticize The Dillinger Escape Plan.
TheRedHutt 1 year ago
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what is this fucking shit??a bad copy of monnclid!!learn to jonh zorn rookies!!
DIOSANO 4 years ago
hey buddy, can you please have some respect? you are dissing Anthony Braxton's son here
ColtraneGilg 4 years ago 5
voici un grope enfin que je peu apprcier meme en francais
sorrowinc 4 years ago
You don't hear the hemiola going on?
It is in 4, but the guitar is tricking us into thinking it's in 3.
zenrarity 4 years ago
damn, i keep trying to hear it in 4/4, but i'm nearly possitive it's 3/4. it's just those hats keep landing on every 4 beats, so it lands on 1 the first measure, then 2, then 3, but yea, also, that guitar pulse at the beginning is on 1 and 3 so it kinda makes it sound like 4. i didn't even question it until i read your comment and that just made it so much better to listen to.
theempiremelts 3 years ago
airbagabe, i dont think you understand what battles are all about. it may seem nonsensical (not a word) and assorted at first, but take another listen and you find the underlying mathematics of these songs quite beautiful and just plain progressive in regards to the formulas of most other music today, the end.
caida815 4 years ago
@caida815 nonsensical actually is a word but everything else you say is correct
MrMisab 1 year ago
@caida815 nonsensical is a word.
tristanvlogs 5 months ago
@caida815 come on man, it's just not good to listen to. i completely understand what they're doing, but there are better ways to push the boundaries than this kind of thing.
jackmckenzie100 3 months ago
@caida815 nonsensical = word
scottymac897 2 months ago
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minutes straight of nonsensical tapping and assorted bleeps isn't innovative, it's boring
airbagabe 4 years ago
All of these guys are legends especially Stanier. Lynx was great, Don Cab w/ Ian and Tyondai's solo work was/is great as well. For these guys to pull it off together is amazing to me. Egos could easily get in the way of the music but they don't. Beautiful!
redshaftedflicker 4 years ago
lol now that is a high cymbal!
kevthedrummer 4 years ago
wow this is INTENSE
thanks for the upload
kmitsu1 4 years ago