"pandora has changed" in this video at least, i think in the old / early stages of developement it look's alot like borderlands 2 without cel-shadeing, pandora is better desolate and cartoony
The thing about Borderlands' original style is that it wasn't some generic wasteland back then. I am so, so over the apocalypse, can we please bring back color?
@dismal20xx the reason the went cell shaded, is because they were spending ages doing the graphics all good, and shiny, and gritty, then they realised. it was just like all other post apoc. games.
solution.
they made it cell shaded half way through the game, it meant that they could save time on the graphics. and seem new and exicting at the same time. it worked.
i get the feeling wouldnt have sold as well without the cell-shadedness. i imagine that a lot of the humor was derived from that.
BORDERLANDS ISNT CEL-SHADED. lol To funny that so many people think it is. Cel-shading has to do with how the lights and shadows are rendered. Borderland renders everything like any other none cell shaded game. What makes it unique is the textures are just drawn like a cartoon.
Legend of Mana was released in July 1999 JP (NOT 1998) and June 2000 NA & CA. Still the first unless you are only talking NA releases . . . then Fear Effect is first.
You get my point . . . Jet Set/Grind Radio was a sweet game and Dreamcast was an awesome system . . . but it was NOT the first cell shaded game.
Source: Wikipedia - list of cel-shaded video games & I own the games in question.
@BaradaNels Despite what the Wiki says I would not think of Legend of Mana as a true cel-shaded game. It was 2D and the over all effect it created was more of a water colored painting. Fear Effect was truly cel shaded so your right I gotta give it credit. However I still think of Jet Grind Radio as being that game that pushed cel-shading into the mainsteam. Plus if you wanna get really picky Spider-Man & Venom in Maximum Carnage for the SNES looks cel-shaded even though it uses sprites.
Funny you should say that. I was thinking about making a 3rd correction. LMAO! Fear Effect used unshaded characters textured to give it that cel-shaded feel and the backgrounds were looped video. It was not cel-shaded. Legend of Mana was the first true cel-shaded game and TECHNICALLY Jet Set/Grind Radio was the second.
Fear Effect just mimicked the technology. So there lies the true argument. Is it based off looks? Or based off the technology? Looks would be opinion IMHO.
@BaradaNels I have been playing them sense the Atari 2600 days. I do find video gaming history to be interesting, however I didn't feel like digging back so far into the technical details of Cel-Shading. It is good that you clarified some of the missing information though. for whatever reason I was thinking only 3d (not the kind with glasses) games could be celshaded. That is why I would have never guess LoM was even though I did play that game.
I know your comment was created a year ago . . . but I cannot allow this misinformation to continue. Cel-shading started back in 1998, with Legend of Mana on the PS1. Then continued in January 2000 with Fear Effect also on that same system. Jet Set/Grind Radio was June for JP and November for NA and EU of that same year for the Dreamcast.
So no matter what way you look at it Jet Set/Grind Radio is the 3rd cel-shaded game.
Source: Wikipedia - list of cel-shaded video games
i think the cell shading was a great idea, they should have made it an option like the gore/no gore option on some games.. either way i would probably keep it on but still it would shut you realistic graphic whores up,
@reaver34572 All Half-Life did was add boring intro scenes, endless loading screens every five seconds, bosses you can't kill with bullets (annoying. ANYTHING will die if you shoot it enough times), and it ripped the puzzles right off of Quake II... so what was so god damn revolutionary about it?
Duke was the revolutionary game. It added FUCKING CHARACTER to fps games.
You can say what you want to but I think the MAIN reason for the graphic change was simply to be DIFFERENT and not another "me too" shooter. Because honestly the FPS genre is pretty stale in my opinion. Think about how many WW2 shooters were released.. 50? I really couldn't tell ya. Even the new ones are just more of the same with better graphics. Hell, Rage looks great but its still a "post apocalyptic" Mad Max theme that's been done to DEATH! At least Borderlands stands out a little.
@winspyy hey man, really, i see again the final boss of HL 1, and i see he was equal the one of the BorD ... LOL ......., but i still say : "to me" the Borderlands and Half Life "TWO", are the most perfect FPS i was played and liked joinned ... # please sorry about my BAD english, i am brazilian.
I like borderlands, and the graphics are unique. But I kinda wish they would have stuck with the old graphics. The cartoon graphics sometimes don't make the game serious at all. Still a great game though
@dismal20xx - Changing the art direction for the new look was a brilliant move.
Too many FPS try to look too realistic, only to be dated within a year when a new game comes out looking "more realistic".
With the hand-drawn feel, that will always be identified as the Borderlands look--successfully separating itself from the endless amount of FPS games that come out.
I HATE cel shading. For one it looked horrible and it would also mess up my 360 like if I would go to a certain place it would take a while for the graphics to proccess. All that shit could have avoided if they would have went regular.
listen, those "old" graphic is standard fare... in a few years, they will look so bad in the eyes of newer kids that they would not play it... kinda like most of you now would never play half life now. which makes you twats but i digres
giving this game a unique art style, ensures its replayability by newer generations of graphic whore twats like yourself. if it looks like its hand drawn now, it will look like it in 5 years too. now go and change yer dipers
Wind waker has cel-shading. Borderlands is not cel-shaded. It just has an outline shader with textures that look "drawn". But I guess you can call it cel-shaded if you want.
I like the visuals they went with in the end, I've had enough of games trying to be photo realistic, it just forced the dev costs up and makes the game age faster
@NigelCartoon photo realstic visuals are breathtaking it makes you appreciate that its possible to do that, cell shading just looks messy and rushed, i'd much rather my game looked real than some cartoon.
@lawrence096 what is considered "realistic" in graphics now, will be out of date in 6 months time, more stylised games tend to stay looking fresh for longer, like TF2 is an example of this. 'realism' doesn't work that well at the moment, normal maps and poly counts age and then there's the uncanny valley to consider (looks right + moves wrong = creeps people out). I'm not here to argue though, you like what you like (ps I'm a training 3d animator at uni)
@NigelCartoon i think its more about prefrence and point of veiw for example, say for art i'd be a more realistic drawing person and you maybe more of an abstract i may be wrong with that example on you but im just saying i don't think either is neccesarly better
@NigelCartoon I tend to agree that cel-shaded games age better than games that opt for realism - look at Wind Waker - that thing still looks great 8 years after it came out whereas games that game out only 2 years ago are starting to look out of date.
If I remember right , from a very old game informer mag, in the original borderlands, mordeki (excuse my spelling) or "the hunter" was going to be the main character(in other words u didn't have a choice) so the story line could connect more with the character. They then altered the story, and the hunters character, to be less personal so it didn't matter what kind character was playing. That way they could give u a choice of characters
@mikkeldreng pshhht, not short at all, i stayed up all night for almost 2 weeks playing, and it was only in the second week i finished, thats not short
@lawrence096 i actually took my time loving the game, i did quite a few of the side quests, but didnt level to max level, this game is brilliant and fun, ive also completed it again so i could play dlc, its brilliant, cant ait till 4th dlc and borderlands 2
@InvaderGimli I did't know that, 2008 walkthrough you say? I'll check that one out. I must say I really like the graphics in borderlands but I didn't know about those other changes...
@InvaderGimli Holy hell, it sounds like they left out a lot of great stuff... I bet if they had just a bit more time they could make this game even greater (then fallout 3?) ;)
they could have had a good story and multiplayer, i dont understand how one could hinder the other. if the ever do make a sequel, i hope they fix the shallow story. Mass effect style interactive cutscenes would be a good start.
i think that withought the fallout 3 graphics and the serious tone the game looks alot smoother and is more memorable, love the game, trying to prolong my first playthrough to extend the game life :) but im a fan of red faction g. and alot of people dont like it
I gladly prefer borderlands over games like gears of war, halo 3, TF2 and the like. I like the graphics, and the multiplayer is fantastic. The old graphics were rubbish. First off Roland was going to be white and Mordecai was going to be a douchey queer in a skirt. I give gearbox a pat on the back for changing it and still having multiple fans. I can't even wait for the second DLC.
I think the celshading adds to the game's uniqueness as opposed to same old everyday attempts at photorealism. And it fits, it feels and plays like a comic it looks like one too.
There are good reasons why they made the right choice to change the art style.
Rage, Metro 2033, Stalker, Redline.
Fallout 3 made the "wasteland" genre cool and we got a shitload of games, Borderlands needed to stand out from the crowd, from the Devs point of view it was the right choice. Also the style allows them to credibly inject a dose of much needed humour and outrageousness into a genre which takes itself too seriously sometimes.
An action comedy first person RPG shooter? Fuck yes!
it would have been awesome if you could create your own character following one of the 4 classes. i dont want to sound rasist but i wish the soldier could be white. dont get me wrong its not like i hate black people i just like playing games with characters that look like me
I enjoy playing Borderlands. But I think the original graphics added a lot more visual beauty to the game than cell shading. I want to play the original graphics :( so bad...
im split between the 2, becuase im a fan of cell shading i think it compliments the non-serious style of the game, but i would also of liked to have experienced the old style too, maybe release a DLC texture pack so we can choose how the game looks lmao (though it will never happen)
You can say the same about World of Warcraft, or any game for that matter. They didn't copy. They just knew what people wanted in games, CoD/WoW/Halo/TF2/GoW are just a few games they took ideas from to make the game interesting.
Rechargable shields. The ability to pick up your team mates before they die. The unique talent tree. Unique characters.
I'd like to see you create a game from scratch without copying any other game, movie or book. Try it.
The gameplay is great, its just sometimes they take it too far, like the bus driver being almost exactly like nikos cousin in gta 4, little things like that that make me wince, and the graphics, they announced the change right abouts when tf2 sales figures were released...
I fucking agree RedSushiNinja, I mean it does so many years there are games , movies , book ,etc... It would be IMPOSSIBLE or almost to create something really unique without taking ANYTHING from other ideas, you can only make them worst or better, and change some things. I'm sure i would be able to create nice monsters in a game , that wouldnt copy much of the others, but thats only a '' monster'' not a whole game !
no shit, I was looking forward to the original game since my junior year in HS now im a sophomore in college and i was blindsided by the new piece of shit that ,like you said, copies every other game. it's also boring and all the guns are the same. there are a few guns that actually do different things. but thats not enough, no gun is really creative. And i wanted to be able to explore like in Oblivion. In the new one your confined to small shitty maps
@Colton5 exactly, i'm pretty ashamed of gearbox now :( man i couldnt wait for the original, this version is sure fun, but the old version just seemed more epic and grand, so much better
wow the eailer looks of it looks amazing then they took it full retard and you never go full retard. oh well won't stop me from playing it but the cel shade was a mistake. FO3>Borderlands.
Complaining over the graphics... You obviously don't know shit, fallout 3 was fucking lame even on the hardest setting it was piss easy.. oh wait yeah because level 30 you were fucking invincible.
and anothe rthing is that borderlands does not take place in post apocolyptic world like fallout 3 it is a planet that has always been run down and shitty looking....
i think that people like to compare games to one another and its not fair....ppl need to stop cmoparing and look at the uniqueness and genuine experience
and for the game its self it is a great game it does in fact have some downfalls but overall it is still a very good game and i recommend and enjoy it very much....
I beleive that sometimes it's really good to compare games, like I played fallout 3 and really liked it but I never bought it because there was no multiplayer... Now this game comes out and I have what I want
i am glad that gearbox decided to go with the cell shaded look...its good to have a game developer think outside of the box and give us a new unique style of a game than keeping the old dreary black gray and brown look like some games have to day such as GOW and Fallout....
and for those who compare Borderlands with Fallout 3 are totally wrong borderlands is totally different in story and game play...fallout 3 is more rpg than fps and borderlands is more fps...
I think so too, I would have bought it, it could have been so bad I would have bought it, but thanks of the cel-shading graphics (which just dont fit into for this game!) I will never have it. Never!
was i the one who said shut up im sorry i agree and heres something else i need to say evertime theres a new game the deveopers always find ways to ruin there game first it was with fear extraction point with there shitty controls now its this
See its people like you that are ruining gaming. People who are to dumb minded to try new things forcing game developers to dish out the same old games afraid of making things that are new and creative. If you think a game is bad by its graphics then you seriously are not a true gamer and I feel very sorry for you. Gameplay and mechanics are what makes up for a game and graphics should come second. Just because a game doesn't look great does not mean its not good.
no stop saying cel shading is original cause its not only games that should have that art style are cartoon games not fps so go carve 666 in your head and play with satan or something
Way to resort to mindless 5 year old insults. First of all I am not a satanist and I never said it was Original i just said it was a creative way to get away from the dull, boring, brown, dark scenery that you see in Fallout or Gears Of War of shooters. Now since you clearly didn't get my point the first time. What I am saying is that Graphics no matter what style or art form does not determine if a game is bad. Now stop replying to me with 5 year old immaturity, which your gonna do any way.
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Did I say that? I'm really sorry but if someone doenst like Team Fortress 2's graphics (and the game is outstanding!) I accept that, because the game can be as awesome as hell, if you don't like the cel-shaded look, it's not that awesome it would be. By the way, did you EVER hear someting of tolerance? If I say, that I don't like the grapics of this game, you don't have to care if YOU like it. That's my opinion and whether you share it or not you should at least accept it and stop insulting me.
First of all it was not you who i replied to it was Sonicfreak243 and his immaturity was resulting in 5 year old name calling instead of backing up his argument. Second of all once again my argument is that a game should not be judged if a game is bad or not because of its graphics, no matter it being Borderlands, TF2, etc... I am simply saying that not playing a game or picking up a game because you don't the graphics is completely senseless.
It is good to see a FPS stand out from the dull boring dark scenery that we find today in many other games and for those who can't reach out and play something different I'm sorry, I personally enjoy Borderlands, not for its graphics but for its fun gameplay and its co-op.
graphics doesnt make the game funny -.- give people funny things to say and hang up funny things like spraypayint saying "fallout 3 suck" then ppl would lough too. not saying it does suck but since its almost like the fallout3 rival it would be kinda cool.
Honestly, I feel that the graphical style was a good change because of the mood and atmosphere. Had this game been more serious than humurous, then I would have preffered the old graphics. But it has an art style that matches the mood, and that is awesome at the same time.
why casue they lazily added some bulllshit layer when they had a next gen gameprolly with awesome blood and animations now theres barely any at all you can see through the shitty comic like character
i agree with paul. This new style stops the visuals from becoming boring and stereotypical of all other shooters. It's a new twist and it looks awesome.
Using cel shading isn't a new twist but the style they used for this game is certainly unique. It is a dirty hand drawn feel to it, like it was drawn in ink, similar to crackdown but a bit rougher around the edges. I know you weren't bashing the game but saying it's visuals aren't anything new just because it's cel shaded isn't really fair, I mean it's doesn't bare much resemblance to wind waker or TF2
"pandora has changed" in this video at least, i think in the old / early stages of developement it look's alot like borderlands 2 without cel-shadeing, pandora is better desolate and cartoony
XenVord 6 days ago
The old screenshots remind me of RAGE.
ghostrecon1234567 1 week ago
Not cel shaded. Edge tracer shader instead.
lucifer6642 1 month ago
The thing about Borderlands' original style is that it wasn't some generic wasteland back then. I am so, so over the apocalypse, can we please bring back color?
TheCraziestMonkey 2 months ago
So that is how it could have looked? T-T I would enjoy it sooo much more...
realnaste 3 months ago 4
@dismal20xx the reason the went cell shaded, is because they were spending ages doing the graphics all good, and shiny, and gritty, then they realised. it was just like all other post apoc. games.
solution.
they made it cell shaded half way through the game, it meant that they could save time on the graphics. and seem new and exicting at the same time. it worked.
i get the feeling wouldnt have sold as well without the cell-shadedness. i imagine that a lot of the humor was derived from that.
pumakillsyou 4 months ago
The atmosphere is far better with the current borderlands graphic style.
Skarloe 4 months ago
Seriously, the "new" borderlands PWNs the "old" one!
igorpro21 4 months ago
Fuck, man, it was 10000000 times better.. sob.
Clarensee 5 months ago
Someone downvote the top comments, please. These people were not smart enough to realize that it was not cel-shaded, the textures were hand drawn.
gaaratoast 6 months ago
@gaaratoast i dont think there are top comments stating it was cel shaded.
riskygamiing 2 months ago
@dismal20xx Jet... Grind, Radio? Did you mean Jet Set Radio?
bludude90210 6 months ago
BORDERLANDS ISNT CEL-SHADED. lol To funny that so many people think it is. Cel-shading has to do with how the lights and shadows are rendered. Borderland renders everything like any other none cell shaded game. What makes it unique is the textures are just drawn like a cartoon.
mazor13 7 months ago
@mazor13 hmmmmm...... so how you explain the cell shading?
igorpro21 4 months ago
@mazor13 no, the devs specifically said it was cel shaded
fatalnightmare22 4 months ago
@mazor13 It is cel shaded.
weirdman338 3 months ago
@dismal20xx
TYPO CORRECT FROM MY LAST COMMENT:
Legend of Mana was released in July 1999 JP (NOT 1998) and June 2000 NA & CA. Still the first unless you are only talking NA releases . . . then Fear Effect is first.
You get my point . . . Jet Set/Grind Radio was a sweet game and Dreamcast was an awesome system . . . but it was NOT the first cell shaded game.
Source: Wikipedia - list of cel-shaded video games & I own the games in question.
BaradaNels 7 months ago
@BaradaNels Despite what the Wiki says I would not think of Legend of Mana as a true cel-shaded game. It was 2D and the over all effect it created was more of a water colored painting. Fear Effect was truly cel shaded so your right I gotta give it credit. However I still think of Jet Grind Radio as being that game that pushed cel-shading into the mainsteam. Plus if you wanna get really picky Spider-Man & Venom in Maximum Carnage for the SNES looks cel-shaded even though it uses sprites.
dismal20xx 7 months ago
@dismal20xx
Funny you should say that. I was thinking about making a 3rd correction. LMAO! Fear Effect used unshaded characters textured to give it that cel-shaded feel and the backgrounds were looped video. It was not cel-shaded. Legend of Mana was the first true cel-shaded game and TECHNICALLY Jet Set/Grind Radio was the second.
Fear Effect just mimicked the technology. So there lies the true argument. Is it based off looks? Or based off the technology? Looks would be opinion IMHO.
BaradaNels 7 months ago
@BaradaNels to be honest I don't really care THAT much.
dismal20xx 7 months ago
@dismal20xx
Then pardon me. From your original comment, I thought you had an aptitude for video gaming history.
BaradaNels 7 months ago
@BaradaNels I have been playing them sense the Atari 2600 days. I do find video gaming history to be interesting, however I didn't feel like digging back so far into the technical details of Cel-Shading. It is good that you clarified some of the missing information though. for whatever reason I was thinking only 3d (not the kind with glasses) games could be celshaded. That is why I would have never guess LoM was even though I did play that game.
dismal20xx 7 months ago
@dismal20xx
I know your comment was created a year ago . . . but I cannot allow this misinformation to continue. Cel-shading started back in 1998, with Legend of Mana on the PS1. Then continued in January 2000 with Fear Effect also on that same system. Jet Set/Grind Radio was June for JP and November for NA and EU of that same year for the Dreamcast.
So no matter what way you look at it Jet Set/Grind Radio is the 3rd cel-shaded game.
Source: Wikipedia - list of cel-shaded video games
BaradaNels 7 months ago
dont companys usally go with the good graphics and not the shitty one
189NIGHTSTRIKE 7 months ago
i was gonna bye this game but they had to change it so i said fuck it
189NIGHTSTRIKE 7 months ago
Why did they change it. It looked like Rage but they failed hope theese graphics r in borderlands 2
DrunkenRussian121 7 months ago
i think the cell shading was a great idea, they should have made it an option like the gore/no gore option on some games.. either way i would probably keep it on but still it would shut you realistic graphic whores up,
blackwolf721able 8 months ago
they ate a bowl of stupid when they made the decision for cell-shading
templarknight456 9 months ago
@dismal20xx jet set radio future dude made cell shading populer
chitownzfinesthustla 9 months ago
@chitownzfinesthustla That was the sequel to Jet Grind Radio so yeah... something like that.
dismal20xx 9 months ago
@reaver34572 All Half-Life did was add boring intro scenes, endless loading screens every five seconds, bosses you can't kill with bullets (annoying. ANYTHING will die if you shoot it enough times), and it ripped the puzzles right off of Quake II... so what was so god damn revolutionary about it?
Duke was the revolutionary game. It added FUCKING CHARACTER to fps games.
JoeyDrunko 9 months ago
You can say what you want to but I think the MAIN reason for the graphic change was simply to be DIFFERENT and not another "me too" shooter. Because honestly the FPS genre is pretty stale in my opinion. Think about how many WW2 shooters were released.. 50? I really couldn't tell ya. Even the new ones are just more of the same with better graphics. Hell, Rage looks great but its still a "post apocalyptic" Mad Max theme that's been done to DEATH! At least Borderlands stands out a little.
brandon9271 10 months ago
I much rather the comic-type Borderlands since it adds to humour and gives it it's own feel not just another shooting game.
Tikimit 1 year ago
@Tikimit fallout have humour too and doesnt look like cartoon shit...
TestY0urMight 10 months ago
Borderlands is one of the best and more complete games of i ever played ... is just compared to Half Life 2
solixwall 1 year ago
@solixwall considering the ending of borderlands blatently steals the end boss from half life 1, you have no right trying to compare the two....
winspyy 1 year ago
@winspyy hey man, really, i see again the final boss of HL 1, and i see he was equal the one of the BorD ... LOL ......., but i still say : "to me" the Borderlands and Half Life "TWO", are the most perfect FPS i was played and liked joinned ... # please sorry about my BAD english, i am brazilian.
solixwall 1 year ago
I like borderlands, and the graphics are unique. But I kinda wish they would have stuck with the old graphics. The cartoon graphics sometimes don't make the game serious at all. Still a great game though
venomclown1134 1 year ago
@dismal20xx - Changing the art direction for the new look was a brilliant move.
Too many FPS try to look too realistic, only to be dated within a year when a new game comes out looking "more realistic".
With the hand-drawn feel, that will always be identified as the Borderlands look--successfully separating itself from the endless amount of FPS games that come out.
pandasharks 1 year ago
I HATE cel shading. For one it looked horrible and it would also mess up my 360 like if I would go to a certain place it would take a while for the graphics to proccess. All that shit could have avoided if they would have went regular.
sonicfreak243 1 year ago
@dismal20xx Best...Comment...Evar!!!!!
rikijamie 1 year ago
@dismal20xx Guess you forgot about Fear Effect, but forgetfulness is common with old age.
bagodixx 1 year ago
shaded is nice, i like the old personally because it has more of an action-eee comic book-eee look and feel to it
ChasingPurpleTV 1 year ago
old is better
OfficialNFSOST 1 year ago
Cell Shaded = SHIT The Two Worlds of FPS
ArchangelxCIx 1 year ago
Cell Shaded = SHIT
ArchangelxCIx 1 year ago
if it stayed the old look it wud hav looked like fallout and fallout graphics looks like shit the new cel shaded makesit more interesting
kangal8 1 year ago
Who is that guy on 0:32?
ronniekyo 1 year ago
Looks better cell shaded.
DisabledZombieInc 1 year ago
Old Looked So Much Better, Graphics Now = 5.0...Graphics Then = 9.8
FateOverFear 1 year ago
it was jet set radio noob not jet grind radio
proopn777 1 year ago
sure is children around here...
listen, those "old" graphic is standard fare... in a few years, they will look so bad in the eyes of newer kids that they would not play it... kinda like most of you now would never play half life now. which makes you twats but i digres
giving this game a unique art style, ensures its replayability by newer generations of graphic whore twats like yourself. if it looks like its hand drawn now, it will look like it in 5 years too. now go and change yer dipers
behemuth 1 year ago
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LightSydeTurian 1 year ago
@LightSydeTurian graphic whores ... who else
behemuth 1 year ago
OLD GRAPHICS ALL THE WAY
FateOverFear 1 year ago
I would preffer Borderlands without cel-shading, too bad you can only remove it in the PC version :(
grineti5 1 year ago
Wind waker has cel-shading. Borderlands is not cel-shaded. It just has an outline shader with textures that look "drawn". But I guess you can call it cel-shaded if you want.
RavingKunaiX 1 year ago
they should release a "original graphics" edition of the game... i think the cel shading sucks for it
daivondays 1 year ago
half of borderlands in my opinion is the humor, and it would feel misplaced if they didn't combine that with cartoonish graphics
dagoogler01 1 year ago 28
@dagoogler01 exactl what I wanted to say +++
GodofChookie 1 year ago
they fucked up on tht,,,,big time
cragyypoo 1 year ago
looks so much better without cell shading
lawrence096 1 year ago
I like the visuals they went with in the end, I've had enough of games trying to be photo realistic, it just forced the dev costs up and makes the game age faster
NigelCartoon 1 year ago
@NigelCartoon photo realstic visuals are breathtaking it makes you appreciate that its possible to do that, cell shading just looks messy and rushed, i'd much rather my game looked real than some cartoon.
lawrence096 1 year ago
@lawrence096 what is considered "realistic" in graphics now, will be out of date in 6 months time, more stylised games tend to stay looking fresh for longer, like TF2 is an example of this. 'realism' doesn't work that well at the moment, normal maps and poly counts age and then there's the uncanny valley to consider (looks right + moves wrong = creeps people out). I'm not here to argue though, you like what you like (ps I'm a training 3d animator at uni)
NigelCartoon 1 year ago
@NigelCartoon i think its more about prefrence and point of veiw for example, say for art i'd be a more realistic drawing person and you maybe more of an abstract i may be wrong with that example on you but im just saying i don't think either is neccesarly better
lawrence096 1 year ago
@lawrence096 artisticly I'm more into traditional life drawing and anatomy, I just like games to be a bit different
NigelCartoon 1 year ago
@NigelCartoon I tend to agree that cel-shaded games age better than games that opt for realism - look at Wind Waker - that thing still looks great 8 years after it came out whereas games that game out only 2 years ago are starting to look out of date.
N0NEoftheAB0VE 1 year ago
Borderlands has gained from the gritty look of the cell shading, feel is everything.
RedGrobo 1 year ago
if they do make a borderlands two or a game like it they may use the original borderlands design
ITSWolfie100 1 year ago
If I remember right , from a very old game informer mag, in the original borderlands, mordeki (excuse my spelling) or "the hunter" was going to be the main character(in other words u didn't have a choice) so the story line could connect more with the character. They then altered the story, and the hunters character, to be less personal so it didn't matter what kind character was playing. That way they could give u a choice of characters
FistOfTheLeopard 1 year ago
Graphics looked more defined in the old..Wish it would have stayed that way
Bo6us 1 year ago
They should have stayed with the old design, and made the ''cartoonish'' concept graphics a toggle in options.
The game is brilliant, but too short i think.
mikkeldreng 1 year ago
@mikkeldreng pshhht, not short at all, i stayed up all night for almost 2 weeks playing, and it was only in the second week i finished, thats not short
xbox50000 1 year ago
@xbox50000 maybe ur just bad at it, i completed it in 3 days playing a max of 3 hours a night
lawrence096 1 year ago
@lawrence096 i actually took my time loving the game, i did quite a few of the side quests, but didnt level to max level, this game is brilliant and fun, ive also completed it again so i could play dlc, its brilliant, cant ait till 4th dlc and borderlands 2
xbox50000 1 year ago
A change for the better!
apenneukende 1 year ago
@apenneukende
Well, there were cutscenes in the old version...
In the new version there are only those boss movies...nothing if you compare it to the cutscenes from the 2008 walktrough...
Art Style Change ok.
Entire Game and Story and Gameplay change...Not ok
InvaderGimli 1 year ago
@InvaderGimli I did't know that, 2008 walkthrough you say? I'll check that one out. I must say I really like the graphics in borderlands but I didn't know about those other changes...
apenneukende 1 year ago
@apenneukende
Yup, for example you could collect trophies, that increased your Acuracy etc.
InvaderGimli 1 year ago
@InvaderGimli Holy hell, it sounds like they left out a lot of great stuff... I bet if they had just a bit more time they could make this game even greater (then fallout 3?) ;)
apenneukende 1 year ago
@InvaderGimli yeah but that i think got exchanged with the skill tree
mthatguy1111 1 year ago
@mthatguy1111 they should of made the skill tree bigger than...
KILL3RKI3R4N 1 year ago
When did the old one come out
combatarmsfreak000 2 years ago
It didn't. Late in development they changed a TON of stuff.
jimjam154 2 years ago
pretty sure they changed the art direction so it didn't look like a fallout3 clone!?
johnrobbo26 2 years ago 2
Yeah, they stated that
dylanroo 1 year ago
they should let u choose the graphics because i kinda dont like the comicy graphics
nfcrysiss 2 years ago
they could have had a good story and multiplayer, i dont understand how one could hinder the other. if the ever do make a sequel, i hope they fix the shallow story. Mass effect style interactive cutscenes would be a good start.
borderlander800 2 years ago
i think that withought the fallout 3 graphics and the serious tone the game looks alot smoother and is more memorable, love the game, trying to prolong my first playthrough to extend the game life :) but im a fan of red faction g. and alot of people dont like it
jester200 2 years ago
it seems like they chopped so much gameplay and story to make the multiplayer work, and the cell shading just solidified the shallow feel.
but it's still a fun game, i just feel it could have been so much more
pyr666 2 years ago
The producer himself has said that they deliberately put the story in the backseat just for a better co-op experience.
Kind of happy that way because it is a fantastic co-op game, not meant to be Single Player.
Bassz 2 years ago
that's disappointing, they should have had both :(
pyr666 2 years ago
I wish so too, but ultimately I would have preferred a co-op game than a fantastic single-player (There are so many good ones out right now!)
Bassz 2 years ago
New look would get me interested, old look would KEEP me interested. Big difference.
cackykoontz 2 years ago
i want to buy the old one =(
yohippiedogs 2 years ago
i love the old look...i really dont like the new cell shaded shit ): !
IpodAppsEverywhere 2 years ago
thats what i thought but its not to bad
utubeb14 2 years ago
the old soldier is better
HALOHEADHUNTER 2 years ago
wats cell shaded?
TxFh798h 2 years ago
lol
Prongshorn 2 years ago
Borderlands is not cell shaded...
AzaIndustries 2 years ago
I gladly prefer borderlands over games like gears of war, halo 3, TF2 and the like. I like the graphics, and the multiplayer is fantastic. The old graphics were rubbish. First off Roland was going to be white and Mordecai was going to be a douchey queer in a skirt. I give gearbox a pat on the back for changing it and still having multiple fans. I can't even wait for the second DLC.
TheLeedleLeedle 2 years ago
I think the celshading adds to the game's uniqueness as opposed to same old everyday attempts at photorealism. And it fits, it feels and plays like a comic it looks like one too.
Geoxile 2 years ago
zomg a@0:52, mordecei used to be buff, and roland used to be white. fascinating.
boringdude72 2 years ago
damn i been waitin for this game for MONTHS thankk the lord for christmas
hungarianhangover 2 years ago
There are good reasons why they made the right choice to change the art style.
Rage, Metro 2033, Stalker, Redline.
Fallout 3 made the "wasteland" genre cool and we got a shitload of games, Borderlands needed to stand out from the crowd, from the Devs point of view it was the right choice. Also the style allows them to credibly inject a dose of much needed humour and outrageousness into a genre which takes itself too seriously sometimes.
An action comedy first person RPG shooter? Fuck yes!
preacherZer0 2 years ago
it would have been awesome if you could create your own character following one of the 4 classes. i dont want to sound rasist but i wish the soldier could be white. dont get me wrong its not like i hate black people i just like playing games with characters that look like me
zaadproductions 2 years ago
Never followed the game production, so it was a nice change of pace to pla a game with this kind of art style.
But now that I know it was originally like this, I'd like to play in this quality of detail too, lol :(
PhantomRenegade 2 years ago
i hope they make a borderland 2 where its not cel shaded and you actually get in the vault
edard101 2 years ago
SPOILERS
b100dthirster 2 years ago
ikno :D
edard101 2 years ago
the art style graphics give the game a lot more "flavor" wow that sounded gay but IDC BITE ME
ROCK1337ful 2 years ago
I still love this game and it's graphics, but I don't understand WHY they changed it in the first place?
alexholt623 2 years ago
I enjoy playing Borderlands. But I think the original graphics added a lot more visual beauty to the game than cell shading. I want to play the original graphics :( so bad...
Jdcie 2 years ago
im split between the 2, becuase im a fan of cell shading i think it compliments the non-serious style of the game, but i would also of liked to have experienced the old style too, maybe release a DLC texture pack so we can choose how the game looks lmao (though it will never happen)
CT2kX 2 years ago
the old graphics were soooo muuuuch better than cell shade....i'm very dissappointed now
Dysh799 2 years ago
that's your opinion. :P i like the new version 2x better.
PolArbezcukru 2 years ago
Did you actually want Mordecai to look like THAT? That thing looks like shit!
cavemanproductions 2 years ago 2
hate how they copy every game in existance because they were afraid it wouldnt sell enough...
TheImperialNinjA 2 years ago
You can say the same about World of Warcraft, or any game for that matter. They didn't copy. They just knew what people wanted in games, CoD/WoW/Halo/TF2/GoW are just a few games they took ideas from to make the game interesting.
Rechargable shields. The ability to pick up your team mates before they die. The unique talent tree. Unique characters.
I'd like to see you create a game from scratch without copying any other game, movie or book. Try it.
RedSushiNinja 2 years ago
The gameplay is great, its just sometimes they take it too far, like the bus driver being almost exactly like nikos cousin in gta 4, little things like that that make me wince, and the graphics, they announced the change right abouts when tf2 sales figures were released...
TheImperialNinjA 2 years ago
I fucking agree RedSushiNinja, I mean it does so many years there are games , movies , book ,etc... It would be IMPOSSIBLE or almost to create something really unique without taking ANYTHING from other ideas, you can only make them worst or better, and change some things. I'm sure i would be able to create nice monsters in a game , that wouldnt copy much of the others, but thats only a '' monster'' not a whole game !
Unrated48 2 years ago
Copied every game? I believe you're confused, they were INSPIRED by lots of games.
toastedjuice 2 years ago
no shit, I was looking forward to the original game since my junior year in HS now im a sophomore in college and i was blindsided by the new piece of shit that ,like you said, copies every other game. it's also boring and all the guns are the same. there are a few guns that actually do different things. but thats not enough, no gun is really creative. And i wanted to be able to explore like in Oblivion. In the new one your confined to small shitty maps
Colton5 2 years ago
@Colton5 exactly, i'm pretty ashamed of gearbox now :( man i couldnt wait for the original, this version is sure fun, but the old version just seemed more epic and grand, so much better
TheImperialNinjA 2 years ago
new graphics ftw and kids if u dont like it stop playing it we dont want nobs like you to play on borderlands
Miozi 2 years ago
fucking dickless retards crying over the graphics.
katiesafitty 2 years ago
I agree the original graphics are amazing, however i think the cell shade kinda gives it its own style.
Kinda like wow, it will never really be graphically outdated because its meant to look cartoony
hitmankcin87 2 years ago
the graphics r fuckin gay now.
baddbloodmoney 2 years ago
true that.
Flashingflash 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
your fucking gay now
blupandagod 2 years ago
You are retarded. You don't like don't play it.
AlienMagi 2 years ago
I really think this game is opening the door to something great...I bet this game will have an amazing future.
Survious 2 years ago 3
wow the eailer looks of it looks amazing then they took it full retard and you never go full retard. oh well won't stop me from playing it but the cel shade was a mistake. FO3>Borderlands.
Orphen0906 2 years ago
rofl orphen0906 quote from tropic thunder
h12002 2 years ago
Complaining over the graphics... You obviously don't know shit, fallout 3 was fucking lame even on the hardest setting it was piss easy.. oh wait yeah because level 30 you were fucking invincible.
katiesafitty 2 years ago
you obvious just got trolled
Orphen0906 2 years ago
and anothe rthing is that borderlands does not take place in post apocolyptic world like fallout 3 it is a planet that has always been run down and shitty looking....
i think that people like to compare games to one another and its not fair....ppl need to stop cmoparing and look at the uniqueness and genuine experience
and for the game its self it is a great game it does in fact have some downfalls but overall it is still a very good game and i recommend and enjoy it very much....
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
I beleive that sometimes it's really good to compare games, like I played fallout 3 and really liked it but I never bought it because there was no multiplayer... Now this game comes out and I have what I want
Solanum20 2 years ago
i am glad that gearbox decided to go with the cell shaded look...its good to have a game developer think outside of the box and give us a new unique style of a game than keeping the old dreary black gray and brown look like some games have to day such as GOW and Fallout....
and for those who compare Borderlands with Fallout 3 are totally wrong borderlands is totally different in story and game play...fallout 3 is more rpg than fps and borderlands is more fps...
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
shut up the gay cel shading ruined it
sonicfreak243 2 years ago
I think so too, I would have bought it, it could have been so bad I would have bought it, but thanks of the cel-shading graphics (which just dont fit into for this game!) I will never have it. Never!
Gearbox, you ruined your game :'-(.
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
was i the one who said shut up im sorry i agree and heres something else i need to say evertime theres a new game the deveopers always find ways to ruin there game first it was with fear extraction point with there shitty controls now its this
sonicfreak243 2 years ago
Cancel "into" just isn't there :-p.
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
See its people like you that are ruining gaming. People who are to dumb minded to try new things forcing game developers to dish out the same old games afraid of making things that are new and creative. If you think a game is bad by its graphics then you seriously are not a true gamer and I feel very sorry for you. Gameplay and mechanics are what makes up for a game and graphics should come second. Just because a game doesn't look great does not mean its not good.
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
no stop saying cel shading is original cause its not only games that should have that art style are cartoon games not fps so go carve 666 in your head and play with satan or something
sonicfreak243 2 years ago
Way to resort to mindless 5 year old insults. First of all I am not a satanist and I never said it was Original i just said it was a creative way to get away from the dull, boring, brown, dark scenery that you see in Fallout or Gears Of War of shooters. Now since you clearly didn't get my point the first time. What I am saying is that Graphics no matter what style or art form does not determine if a game is bad. Now stop replying to me with 5 year old immaturity, which your gonna do any way.
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
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sonicfreak243 2 years ago
WTF? What exactly on your behaviour was immature? OMG, calm down buddy.
We both hate the new graphics, so it's everything ok, isn't it? ;-)
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
wow..
elmarcle 2 years ago
Did I say that? I'm really sorry but if someone doenst like Team Fortress 2's graphics (and the game is outstanding!) I accept that, because the game can be as awesome as hell, if you don't like the cel-shaded look, it's not that awesome it would be. By the way, did you EVER hear someting of tolerance? If I say, that I don't like the grapics of this game, you don't have to care if YOU like it. That's my opinion and whether you share it or not you should at least accept it and stop insulting me.
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
First of all it was not you who i replied to it was Sonicfreak243 and his immaturity was resulting in 5 year old name calling instead of backing up his argument. Second of all once again my argument is that a game should not be judged if a game is bad or not because of its graphics, no matter it being Borderlands, TF2, etc... I am simply saying that not playing a game or picking up a game because you don't the graphics is completely senseless.
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago 2
Well I tried the game at a friend's PC and I'm really sorry, but I really would like to love this game, but the graphics don't fit (in MY opinion). :(
Would have been awesome by Gearbox if you could have chosen what kind of graphic style you'd like to choose. ;-)
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
shut up tf2 was a good game not all games are bad with cartoony graphics fear jsrf yu gi oh naruto are good games
sonicfreak243 2 years ago
Never said anything about TF2 being bad dipshit.
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
It is good to see a FPS stand out from the dull boring dark scenery that we find today in many other games and for those who can't reach out and play something different I'm sorry, I personally enjoy Borderlands, not for its graphics but for its fun gameplay and its co-op.
DeadlySinnerx666x 2 years ago
Why are gamers so afraid of change?
P4RANO1AC 2 years ago 2
graphics doesnt make the game funny -.- give people funny things to say and hang up funny things like spraypayint saying "fallout 3 suck" then ppl would lough too. not saying it does suck but since its almost like the fallout3 rival it would be kinda cool.
martenchinnock 2 years ago
Honestly, I feel that the graphical style was a good change because of the mood and atmosphere. Had this game been more serious than humurous, then I would have preffered the old graphics. But it has an art style that matches the mood, and that is awesome at the same time.
ScaryFerretPerson 2 years ago 2
if people hate the new graphics why play the game.. guess no one knows or remembers what originality means anymore
ryojin13 2 years ago
Because cell shading is so original.
DrChocobo 2 years ago 2
personally i like the cell shading keeps it makes the game standout and not look like another carbon copy of other games simmilar to it
rcfreak632 2 years ago
I like Cell-shading better and trust me ... it is better.
Miozi 2 years ago
fuck the new graphics
Valkmir 2 years ago
I prefer the old graphics
Manhvnt 2 years ago
why casue they lazily added some bulllshit layer when they had a next gen gameprolly with awesome blood and animations now theres barely any at all you can see through the shitty comic like character
69iambecomedeath89 2 years ago
actually yea you took the words right out of my mouth
Manhvnt 2 years ago
i agree with paul. This new style stops the visuals from becoming boring and stereotypical of all other shooters. It's a new twist and it looks awesome.
joshymanjoshy 2 years ago
While i do agree that it is awesome, its not a new twist.
Team fortress 2, Zelda wind waker, crackdown all had cell shading, and it made them really awesome
Oshinagaki 2 years ago
Using cel shading isn't a new twist but the style they used for this game is certainly unique. It is a dirty hand drawn feel to it, like it was drawn in ink, similar to crackdown but a bit rougher around the edges. I know you weren't bashing the game but saying it's visuals aren't anything new just because it's cel shaded isn't really fair, I mean it's doesn't bare much resemblance to wind waker or TF2
Eidderf3 2 years ago 13