Ah! Callas and Tebaldi are both great but in a huge different way. sometimes, they both suck at something, sometimes, they've achieved something new. They are different. they both sing opera. they both have different styles in their performances.
Somehow, there is no point in comparing their performances already, because they're done with their parts. the way they sang it will always be the same.
@oPeRa1923 I totally agree with your opinion and I am shure that this kind of sopranos we have to find again and feature them more and we have to fight against this OPERAMAFIA and all the bad agents and directors and boring singers who are only recordible and good looking on TV ....
Yes, the opera is being performed in Italian. Bravo for noticing. In Italy all operas were performed in the vernacular until sometime after WWII. Neither Tebaldi, Callas, or Price ever performed Carmen on stage.
For a supposed 'Carmen lover', you sure are close-minded about interpratations. There is no 'only' Carmen, each person presents Carmen in a different way and each interpretation is valid.
I'm sorry...i've been misunderstood!! What I wanted to say is that for me the best Carmen i've ever heard (and i've heard several editions!) is Leontyne Price, but of course it's a matter of taste " De gustibus non disputandum est"...
Wow just sad Tibaldi why did you do this to yourself horrible french and you did not made a good carmen at all and Tibaldi no chest voice now Callas a great Carmen super drama and nice french wonderful chest voice and many other things...
Maria Callas recording of Carmen is something Callas fans should hide.Callas is voiceless, it is a very sad and painful recording, Callas Carmen is trash
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Well, Tebaldi's recording of "Da tempeste" is an even greater disgrace. Tebaldi could'nt keep up with the tempo; it is way too slow. It is an even greater humiliation and a huge shame to the opera and to the composer.
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Look who's talking. If you call this recording of "Da tempeste" is something to be proud of, then you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about MUSIC. Tangang engot. Bobo.
What are you thinking? If that's a sarcastic reference to what Tebaldi was thinking when she recorded this, the same could be said of Callas. I happen to like both. Callas had glorious french diction ( she spoke the language ), and a sharp, fiery temperament for Carmen. Tebaldi was in better form that Callas was at the time, and offered her own interpretation, and sung it beautifully. C'est la vie.
As much as I like to say Tebaldi has a fine voice, she didn't really capture Habanera for me. :( Callas did, but I don't want to start a rivalry between the fans. I think Tebaldi did much better on other arias...this recording, not so much
Me, an animal? I'm not the one bashing every one other than Tebaldi.
And did I ever say she was not in fine voice? She is in fine voice. I admire Tebaldi very much, as she is one of my favourite singers. But she wasn't perfect. No one.
Your comment on Callas shows your inferiority, for I didn't even mention Callas in my post.
Callas was a great Carmen, not perfect but great. Tebaldi is in a very good voice for this aria, specially her chest notes. She is not a Carmen like Callas, but she sounds good.
Love both of them. There is no one like them today.
i don't think she was awful - you have to have an open mind also her french was very good. I wish Tebaldi would have sung it in french but still Tebaldi sounded very good.
If that were the case as you say, the world would have been denied one of the most exquisite Desdemona's and Mimi's ever to have sung that music. Just because she had a rich middle and lower register, and a somewhat limited upper range, doesn't mean the voice was suitable for the mezzo repertoire. I appreciate your point though.
Andante735, How can you answer to this idiotic operaficionado, he hates Renata Tebaldi and only write the most stupid things.Tebaldi is the greatest Leonora/Forza, Tosca, Aida, La Gioconda, Butterfly among others, limited upper range ?In any of those operas Tebaldi sings glorious Bflats, Bs and Cs, there are in her 31 complete opera recordings and in her many lives.How can you answer to this idiot ?
ha, if you consider singing flat or skipping notes beautiful, Tebaldi had a very very beautiful voice.Her strong upper range is what carried her through such a successful Traviata too, no?
hello idiotic operaficionado, Yes very successful Traviata, Tebaldi Traviata is one of the greatest ever sung, her studio recording is perfect, that's why she sang 102 Violetta performances in the major opera houses around the world with the greatest conductors.Operaficionado go and listen your favorite average soubrette voices, that is your place, not here till you learn a bit more of voices and singing
I agree, and this really serves as evidence to my theory that she should have been a mezzo througout her career. Such a warm and comfortable feel she gives here
Yes ravishingly beautiful, huge, opened squillo and perfectly placed high notes.This is enormous Renata Tebaldi career on disc and endless "live" audio tapes and many filmed performances
You are a poverino and bad intentioned, envious young queen.Your place isn't here, got to listen your favorite average mosquito voices, those piece of shit.Go away maricon de mierda operaficionado
Oooooh so smart little man of many login names, who can't defend a a point with reason so has to resort to frvialous insults. Ha, you're opinion is about as secure as Tebaldi's voice above a high B, a simple milisecond blip, skipped or screached
operaficionado: Your opinions are as mediocre as Leontyne Price voice.You are so ignorant you speak about Tebaldi's voice above high B.Her last note is high C and it is and absolutely glorious high C.NEVER screechy never skipped.
Leontyne Price has NO power, no edge, no metal, no volume, NO acuti, NO fortissimi.Each time Price attempts a high note in forte she screechs and she goes sharp, that it is the same to shout.
La Price is a lyrical with a very small and mediocre voice that never made much noise in a hall.Go and play your favorite Price recordings that all of them are as lousy and bad as you are
Price and Tebaldi's voices were about the same size, but with a different quality. Price also had a reliable upper register, while Tebaldi had an incredible lower register. Tebaldi cracked on high C in Aida almost every performance, even at the very beginning of her career. This doesn't make her a bad singer, but she, as everyone, had limitations.
You are an ignorant 18 years old queen.Price voice is SMALL and her top is tiny, her voice on top is lyrical and has little sound and small size, price has NO fortissimo and there is very little difference in volume between her piano Bflat, B and C and her forte Bflat, B and C plus when Price attempts to sing a forte high notes she screechs
Absolutely false, all Tebaldi high Cs in Aìda are very fine (in any Tebaldi Aidias have survived) '52 Erede studio version, '53 Naples "live", '59 Karajan studio version, '51 Loren's film excerpts, '51 Rio de Janiero excerpts.She misses only one high C in '59 Paris Aida, only one note in all her Aida recordings
Price and Tebaldi's voices the same size ? Why don't you say you can cover the sun with your finger hand ?
You have no idea of voices, have no idea of anything !
Just one of thing that make Tebaldi unique is the incredible size and great sound, great power of her voice on top, a wagnerian size, only case among italian sopranos.Price high Cs on Tosca are so little, truly mosquito high notes.What a terrible Tosca Price is..she sounds like a soubrette in dramatic roles
I find it strange that you claim I have no idea of voices, when you yourself talk against what Tebaldi herself said of her voice - "My voice is basically a lyric voice". Now, it is fine that you love Tebaldi, we all do, but even so, you need to see that she DID have limitations. All singers do. If you don't realise this, then I would start reconcidering who's the ignorant person of us.
I love her laughter in this record. I feel her Carmen is better than Callas's record. Certainly, Callas didn't like Carmen, but she had sung it in concert.
Glad to meet you everybody!
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Today I climp up and sign in, but I don't know what will happen tomorrow.
If I can't sign in youtube, please email me.
My English is so poor, I hope all of you can understand what I said. haha...
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yunshanwanli 10 months ago
God rest her soul....I met her in Ft.Lauderdale, 1967
outoftunefiddler 1 year ago
Granb interpretación de la voz más bella de todos los tiempos: Renata Tebaldi.
MrArthurovenezuela 1 year ago
How does she get away with never singing in another language...I guess with a voice like that...the people will deal w/ it!
Chilair1 1 year ago
love her,she (is) and (was) on of the best but this is not my best carmen.
grenadian11 1 year ago
Does anyone know the year of this recording? Amazing Renata!!!
ginlemon29 2 years ago
1969
adolfoa1961 2 years ago
i hate this in italian!!!. but Tebaldi is great.
cantanteporsiempre 4 years ago 2
I don't know who she is, but I love her.
dan020350 4 years ago 13
Ah! Callas and Tebaldi are both great but in a huge different way. sometimes, they both suck at something, sometimes, they've achieved something new. They are different. they both sing opera. they both have different styles in their performances.
Somehow, there is no point in comparing their performances already, because they're done with their parts. the way they sang it will always be the same.
buona notte.
Grazie mille...
oPeRa1923 4 years ago 10
@oPeRa1923 I totally agree with your opinion and I am shure that this kind of sopranos we have to find again and feature them more and we have to fight against this OPERAMAFIA and all the bad agents and directors and boring singers who are only recordible and good looking on TV ....
lamusicahera 1 year ago
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But what the hell is she saying??? Italian???
that's crazy...anyway the best Carmen of ever is only Leontyne Price...and please, don't transate operas any longer....
carmenlover91 4 years ago
Yes, the opera is being performed in Italian. Bravo for noticing. In Italy all operas were performed in the vernacular until sometime after WWII. Neither Tebaldi, Callas, or Price ever performed Carmen on stage.
Samurai9 4 years ago 4
For a supposed 'Carmen lover', you sure are close-minded about interpratations. There is no 'only' Carmen, each person presents Carmen in a different way and each interpretation is valid.
operalover9001 3 years ago 2
I'm sorry...i've been misunderstood!! What I wanted to say is that for me the best Carmen i've ever heard (and i've heard several editions!) is Leontyne Price, but of course it's a matter of taste " De gustibus non disputandum est"...
carmenlover91 3 years ago 2
CALLAS ,Carmen trash??? HOW STUPIDO can you are!!
Rossalita 4 years ago
By the way MAPIAKALLAS, her chest voice is wonderful!!! Where did you get your info?
primomezzo 4 years ago
Wow just sad Tibaldi why did you do this to yourself horrible french and you did not made a good carmen at all and Tibaldi no chest voice now Callas a great Carmen super drama and nice french wonderful chest voice and many other things...
MAPIAKALLAS 4 years ago
just for yoour info she is not singing in french lol it is italian
ktefo 4 years ago 2
ktefo: I don't jnow you expected of mapiakallas, she is a typical Callas fan, an illiterate person , a pytiful finocchio
stome3139 4 years ago
alora ma si io sono un finocchio che sai tu maledeto di merda
please its not that im a callas fan but tebaldi not good in this aria for many reasons
y en esta pagina todos podemos opinar entendido, understand, li a capito
MAPIAKALLAS 4 years ago
Maria Callas recording of Carmen is something Callas fans should hide.Callas is voiceless, it is a very sad and painful recording, Callas Carmen is trash
stome3139 4 years ago 3
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Well, Tebaldi's recording of "Da tempeste" is an even greater disgrace. Tebaldi could'nt keep up with the tempo; it is way too slow. It is an even greater humiliation and a huge shame to the opera and to the composer.
superhunk01 4 years ago
words humiliation and shame and disgrace define a femenine and stupid chinese boy like you.Froscio stupido, ignorant.You can't talk about music
stome3139 4 years ago
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Look who's talking. If you call this recording of "Da tempeste" is something to be proud of, then you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about MUSIC. Tangang engot. Bobo.
superhunk01 4 years ago
Après ce BOLERO sans rhytme,Josè à choisi Michaela.
saverioorlando 4 years ago
Vraiment HABANERA
saverioorlando 4 years ago
What was she thinking?
Elisabetta611 4 years ago
What are you thinking? If that's a sarcastic reference to what Tebaldi was thinking when she recorded this, the same could be said of Callas. I happen to like both. Callas had glorious french diction ( she spoke the language ), and a sharp, fiery temperament for Carmen. Tebaldi was in better form that Callas was at the time, and offered her own interpretation, and sung it beautifully. C'est la vie.
Andante735 4 years ago 3
La Carmen à une ecrifiture dans la quelle le rytme de la dance est important! Ecoutez....c'est Bizet.
saverioorlando 4 years ago
As much as I like to say Tebaldi has a fine voice, she didn't really capture Habanera for me. :( Callas did, but I don't want to start a rivalry between the fans. I think Tebaldi did much better on other arias...this recording, not so much
ComaLies225 4 years ago
As always the tone is beautiful. But, Tebaldi's habanera isn't very imaginative. Yes, she's beautiful, but she's not Carmen.
storme3139, stop waisting your energy. Being so close minded in your views on other sopranos shouldn't be our problem.
BTW, while her top notes were astonishing, she was not comfortable there. Her tessitura was rather low.
And, while her Traviata is beautiful, it is not perfect. Her coloratura was sluggish, & the insight wasn't as deep as it could have been.
VivaMariaCallas 4 years ago
Dear give up to write about music , you are an animal.
Tebaldi only recorded in 1969 two Carmen arias in italian ç, ans she is in fine voice.
Callas complete Carmen recording is a harrowing pityful recording, Maria voice is in shreds.Terrible
stome3139 4 years ago
Me, an animal? I'm not the one bashing every one other than Tebaldi.
And did I ever say she was not in fine voice? She is in fine voice. I admire Tebaldi very much, as she is one of my favourite singers. But she wasn't perfect. No one.
Your comment on Callas shows your inferiority, for I didn't even mention Callas in my post.
VivaMariaCallas 4 years ago 2
Callas was a great Carmen, not perfect but great. Tebaldi is in a very good voice for this aria, specially her chest notes. She is not a Carmen like Callas, but she sounds good.
Love both of them. There is no one like them today.
VivaTebaldi 4 years ago 2
You enjoy playing jokes VivaTebaldi ? Callas Carmen is pityful, Callas voice is shot, Callas Carmen studio version is horrible
stome3139 4 years ago
I think that Carmen suited Callas very well,
i don't think she was awful - you have to have an open mind also her french was very good. I wish Tebaldi would have sung it in french but still Tebaldi sounded very good.
VivaTebaldi 4 years ago 2
Callas' Carmen had the fire necessary for the part. Her French was sublime. She's definitely one of the best studio Carmens ever.
Elisabetta611 4 years ago 2
Fantatico pure joy.... pianisimo .... callas still reigns
zizeus 4 years ago
Such a voice whatever register! Voluptuous,warm, lavish... gentle.
veramour 4 years ago
If that were the case as you say, the world would have been denied one of the most exquisite Desdemona's and Mimi's ever to have sung that music. Just because she had a rich middle and lower register, and a somewhat limited upper range, doesn't mean the voice was suitable for the mezzo repertoire. I appreciate your point though.
Andante735 4 years ago
Andante735, How can you answer to this idiotic operaficionado, he hates Renata Tebaldi and only write the most stupid things.Tebaldi is the greatest Leonora/Forza, Tosca, Aida, La Gioconda, Butterfly among others, limited upper range ?In any of those operas Tebaldi sings glorious Bflats, Bs and Cs, there are in her 31 complete opera recordings and in her many lives.How can you answer to this idiot ?
stome3139 4 years ago
Limited upper range is Règine Crespin, limited upper range is Helen Traubel and Rosa Ponselle too.
Horrible upper range is Maria Callas.
Tiny mosquito upper range is Leontyne Price.
Huge and beautiful upper range is Tebaldi and Nilsson, Sutherland too
stome3139 4 years ago
ha, if you consider singing flat or skipping notes beautiful, Tebaldi had a very very beautiful voice.Her strong upper range is what carried her through such a successful Traviata too, no?
operaficionado 4 years ago
hello idiotic operaficionado, Yes very successful Traviata, Tebaldi Traviata is one of the greatest ever sung, her studio recording is perfect, that's why she sang 102 Violetta performances in the major opera houses around the world with the greatest conductors.Operaficionado go and listen your favorite average soubrette voices, that is your place, not here till you learn a bit more of voices and singing
stome3139 4 years ago
I agree, and this really serves as evidence to my theory that she should have been a mezzo througout her career. Such a warm and comfortable feel she gives here
operaficionado 4 years ago
Yes ravishingly beautiful, huge, opened squillo and perfectly placed high notes.This is enormous Renata Tebaldi career on disc and endless "live" audio tapes and many filmed performances
stome3139 4 years ago
You are a poverino and bad intentioned, envious young queen.Your place isn't here, got to listen your favorite average mosquito voices, those piece of shit.Go away maricon de mierda operaficionado
stome3139 4 years ago
Oooooh so smart little man of many login names, who can't defend a a point with reason so has to resort to frvialous insults. Ha, you're opinion is about as secure as Tebaldi's voice above a high B, a simple milisecond blip, skipped or screached
operaficionado 4 years ago
operaficionado: Your opinions are as mediocre as Leontyne Price voice.You are so ignorant you speak about Tebaldi's voice above high B.Her last note is high C and it is and absolutely glorious high C.NEVER screechy never skipped.
Leontyne Price has NO power, no edge, no metal, no volume, NO acuti, NO fortissimi.Each time Price attempts a high note in forte she screechs and she goes sharp, that it is the same to shout.
stome3139 4 years ago
This is not the place for you operaficionado, You are only a poor young ignorant and bitter queen.You don't know anything about voices and singing
stome3139 4 years ago
La Price is a lyrical with a very small and mediocre voice that never made much noise in a hall.Go and play your favorite Price recordings that all of them are as lousy and bad as you are
stome3139 4 years ago
Price and Tebaldi's voices were about the same size, but with a different quality. Price also had a reliable upper register, while Tebaldi had an incredible lower register. Tebaldi cracked on high C in Aida almost every performance, even at the very beginning of her career. This doesn't make her a bad singer, but she, as everyone, had limitations.
operamagnus 4 years ago
You are an ignorant 18 years old queen.Price voice is SMALL and her top is tiny, her voice on top is lyrical and has little sound and small size, price has NO fortissimo and there is very little difference in volume between her piano Bflat, B and C and her forte Bflat, B and C plus when Price attempts to sing a forte high notes she screechs
stome3139 4 years ago
Absolutely false, all Tebaldi high Cs in Aìda are very fine (in any Tebaldi Aidias have survived) '52 Erede studio version, '53 Naples "live", '59 Karajan studio version, '51 Loren's film excerpts, '51 Rio de Janiero excerpts.She misses only one high C in '59 Paris Aida, only one note in all her Aida recordings
stome3139 4 years ago
Price and Tebaldi's voices the same size ? Why don't you say you can cover the sun with your finger hand ?
You have no idea of voices, have no idea of anything !
Just one of thing that make Tebaldi unique is the incredible size and great sound, great power of her voice on top, a wagnerian size, only case among italian sopranos.Price high Cs on Tosca are so little, truly mosquito high notes.What a terrible Tosca Price is..she sounds like a soubrette in dramatic roles
stome3139 4 years ago
I find it strange that you claim I have no idea of voices, when you yourself talk against what Tebaldi herself said of her voice - "My voice is basically a lyric voice". Now, it is fine that you love Tebaldi, we all do, but even so, you need to see that she DID have limitations. All singers do. If you don't realise this, then I would start reconcidering who's the ignorant person of us.
operamagnus 4 years ago
I love her laughter in this record. I feel her Carmen is better than Callas's record. Certainly, Callas didn't like Carmen, but she had sung it in concert.
yunshanwanli 4 years ago 2
@yunshanwanli you have to remember that Carmen was the favourite opera of Callas however habanera in Italian is a slaughter.
andrea225high 1 year ago
Fantastic. What a rich voice.
mrrk 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this. Her voice is so beautiful and poised. She could have been a great Carmen, she had the voice for it. Rich tone.
VivaTebaldi 4 years ago