@TheLambov12 Know your F1 history. In 2005, for some godforsaken reason, the rules were you had to run the whole race on one set of tyres. Only if a tyre got damaged or punctured, were you allowed to change it. They still pitted for fuel though - watch any pit stop footage from 2005 and you'll see the mechanics inspecting the tyres, but not changing them.
That front right looks flatspotted in the on board camera. I wouldn't have been surprided if he hadden't locked up that tyre earlier on. I daresay the vibrations from the flat spot eventually shattered the suspension.
@davepusey Raikkonen had flat spotted his right front in several places during that race, and even his left front a few times. Not a Raikkonen fan, but this incident was solely FIA's fault, the unparalleled idiocy displayed in changing the rules so that teams cannot change tyres unless they were 'severely damaged'. There was no proper explanation how severe 'severely damaged' was supposed to mean either.
@slannmage I think Alonso deserved the title that year. He drove brilliantly all the season with the exception of the Canadian GP. He had the fastest car at the start of the season but by midseason the McLaren was already the fastest car. Kimi drove brilliantly as well, but you can't be champion with a car that regularly fails.
@davepusey Regulations allowed tyre change on safety reasons, only allowed to change the damaged tyre which in retrospect seems kinda stupid. Having 3 tyres say on 30 laps and one brand spanking new tyre, must in theory cause great imbalance in grip. No tyre change must be one of the worst regs ever.
@davepusey agreed. You could physically see the vibrations from the onboard cam perspective during the last eight or nine(!) laps. I was biting my nails watching Kimi and thought to myself "my goodness, he is never ever gonna make it" until he crossed the finish line to start his last lap. Then I thought "he's really gonna make it", and two seconds later - bang! Either way he would have been allowed to change tyres.
@Magi191 "A hugely significant change in 2005 was the absence of tyre changes during pit stops. Under new regulations, a driver had to use one set of tyres during qualifying and the race itself". got that off wikipedia so next time think before you call some one an idiot.
@IINEZZAII Firstly Wikipedia is in putted by public and can be edited by anyone so never trust everything you read on it, they teach you that in school lol. When they tried to change the tire regulations it was at the beginning of the season and then thrown out due to it being too dangerous. Secondly if you actually listen to the commentary in the video clip you clearly hear Murry Walker say at 0.48 "I said he should have pitted, I told ya" There is my thinking, maybe you should do some.
@IINEZZAII wtf are you on about, yes they could change tyres, how else would they finish a race then? :/ look up f1 2005 tyre rules on google if you dont beleive me idiot
@JunkieJay3000 What are you on about? James Allen was a very good commentator, he simply had a dip in quality in 2007 and 2008 when he had his willy well and truly buried up Hamilton's arse.
Raikonnen did win the race... he started last and finished first... of course he didn't complete the last lap .... but he had the moral victory.... Alonso you lucky basterd...lols
Raikonnen did win the race... he started last and finished first... of course he didn't complete the last lap .... but he had the moral victory.... Alonso you lucky bastard...lols
please how can you say that a double world champion who almost won another two championships has no skills? are you retarded or you dont know absolutely anything about F1??
@COBHCsnake Tout à fais d'accord avec toi. Pour moi c'est l'un des meilleurs pilotes, voire peut être, le meilleur pilote du monde qui malheuresement n'a pas toujours eu de chance avec c'est voitures, notamment chez McLaren. Sinon je pense qu'il aurait était plusieurs fois champions du monde de F1.
The 2011 season will be the best for a long time, for one reason. The commentry will be done by 2 people who know what they are talking about. James Allen was a tool, and Jonathon Legard was even worse
i was so angry after the racce. raikkonen and mclaren where the no.1 in that season but the luck was with alonso. that's not fair, kimi should hawe won that championship. i agree with guramaon, alonso won 2 titles but on others bad luck. he's a great driver, but also very lucky.
All f1 drivers of today are shit compared to Alonso,he's winning gps without having the best car in his hands, the ferrari was the 3rd best car in 2010 and he failed the title because of a poor strategy.
Oh and please thrumbs down/flag it as spam/insult me ; that's the only thing you're able to do to deny the truth :)
@Zobzon69 It wasn't a broken suspension! It was a tyre with a faulty tyre that had an anormal wear! Don't say things when you don't know what are talking about! It would be better to achieve a podium than 0 points...
@Zobzon69 that wasnt the case. when he lapped villeneuve something happened with the tyre what caused massive vibration and that vibration broke his suspension. they try to make it to the finish but it wasnt meant to be unfortunately. while kimi was in f1 he wasnt very lucky. 2 world champion title ended up in schumaher and alonso hand because of mechanical and engine failures. well at least he got 1 title in 2007. shame he is not in f1 anymore.
@UltimateWheelman What I am trying to say is, he is remarkably talented, but like all drivers who have an amazing CV, he has had some moments of undeserved success.
@McLarenMercedes Don't know wich Formula One Season you watched but Alonso had troubles with his gearbox in Malaysia and later with his engine. Mechanical failures 2-1 for Vettel. UUUUUhhh so much more ...
But you can say it in other words. Vettel had the absolutely best car but was not able to bring the victorys he should. He destroyed his car in a few dumb crashes like his noobish moves in Istanbul or Spa.
@Saki2407 How many of those cost Alonso a victory? Dont get me wrong, I would have prefered Ferrari to have a drivers champion, but Vettel deserved the title last year, plain and simple.
@MetaKnightsKirby That was not the question. Alonso could be champion. Vettel didn't deserved the title. It was Newey who deserved it. With a car that is about 1 second faster than all others you should much earlier be champion and not in the last race. Like Mansell 1992.
Webber did a better job in my opinion. He has not the reputation of Vettel and Red Bull didn't want him to be the champion. But he has beaten Vettel many times. Webber should be the champion.
@Saki2407 Had Massa not been unlucky in the earlier races and then lost his motivation somewhat after the German GP, he could have been champion to. Whats your point? Vettel beat Webber in the same car, how can you say Webber drove better or was more deserving, especially given the many victories Vettel lost due to unreliablity last season.
@MetaKnightsKirby Massa never had a chance against Alonso and he was far away from a title. Webber was the leader of the championship for the most time. He was many times faster as Vettel. Red Bull wanted Vettel for champion and they gave all the support to him. Without it he wouldn't be champion. Vettel is a good driver. Maybe better as Webber. But Webber did a better job and thats why he would deserve the title more than Vettel.
@Saki2407 That was an example of how you can stretch the "but if so and so did this they would have won" to far to be believable. You could stretch it to "if the Lotus was faster this year Trulli could have been champion"...
However, I still fail to see how Vettel did a worse job than Webber when he was consistently faster through the majority of the season AND came out with more points despite his numerous mechanical failures. If you like to use the number of laps lead, Vettel takes that too.
@MetaKnightsKirby What bullshit are you talking about? For the dumbs again: I SAID Vettel is a better driver as Webber but he made too much mistakes like Istanbul, Spa or Silverstone. Vettel should have won championship much earlier. Webber had more points for most of the time. He was many times faster as Webber and thats why he did a better job and thats why he deserved to win the title. So what's your problem?
@McLarenMercedes Yep. Malaysia he had a mechanical failure and that was about it. I seem to remember some other misfortune for him the race before or after but can't quite remember. It may have even been massa.
@McLarenMercedes put alonso in a redbull vettel wud suck alonsobtw had the mostfatest laps 2010 vettel isn't fast fast he's not consistent and lets face it webber ain't a world cLIBER DRIVER ALONSO WUD CREAM VETTEL
@McLarenMercedes Yeh but Alonso in 2010 was in the 3rd best car (I think 4th as Renault with Kubica had 3rd best) so looking at it this way Alonso nearly won the 2010 wdc in the 3rd best car so damn HES GOOD " its just a pity all the commentators & presenters are British & are half way up Lewis's tail pipe " just wish people would see the true Alonso who holidays in Wales & left his family at 13 in a cart made for his sister rather than the pantomime villain made by the British & I'M BRITISH "
@singningwongho Yes but do you consider fair to lead a race for 58 laps where you have been driving perfectly and to lose it but not by your own fault and on the other hand to bennefit from the others bad luck and to lead the race for 1 single lap and to take 10 points from your rival.Judically you're right but in principle I don't consider this to be justice
@blerand91 maybe its not fair and was totally cruel in reality, but thats racing. anything can happen and usually does. it happens to all the greats :D but i know what u r saying so i can agree with u on some level :D
@singningwongho I agree with you that you have to cross the line to win a race but Raikkonen was followed by a huge bad luck,far away from the other drivers.Remember he retired from the lead in at least 3 or 4 races.Ok it's tolerable it it happens once or twice during the sseason because it can happen to everyone and it's acceptable but the way it happened to him was really cruel.
@McLarenMercedes Laps led has nothing to do with who wins the title, both drivers won 5 races. Vettel should've won the season by August, the reason he didn't was his own mistakes - Turkey, Spa, Silverstone.
He had 10 poles, yet could only turn two of those to victories. Alonso won from all of his poles, Hamilton from his, Webber from 2/3 of his. Maybe it was inexperience or him not being able to handle pressure (more likely), but it was his own fault it went down to the final race.
All drivers had their share of bad luck, but Vettel's car was a lot better than Alonso's, hence the amount of laps lead. The fact that Alonso in the number 2 car almost won the title shows that Alonso>Vettel.
@guromaon Maybe if Kimi had not flat-spotted his tire while trying to lap a backmarker he would've finished the race. Ever think of that? What about the fact that the McLaren was the fastest car of 2005, the Ferrari was the better car in the 2nd half of 2006, and the Red Bull was the fastest car of 2010. How is Alonso supposed to win on speed when the cars he has had in your examples were not fast enough to compete for the win?! And I say this as a big Vettel/Raikkonen fan!!
@UltimateWheelman Mclaren was the fastest car in 2005 but it had reliability problems, so it didnt finish several races that's the reason Renault won both championships
@guromaon Kimi and JPM only had two car-related DNF's each. Remember, too, that Kimi doesn't win Spa without JPM's help and doesn't win Hungary without JPM's engine problem, so there are two wins right there that Kimi was given.
@daytona81 Vettel lead the whole race and Alonso was second, Vettel had mechanical failures and couldnt finish, Alonso won, its a similar situation and Alonso almost wins the championship because of that last year
I can't stand Alonso. After this race, he was acting all like 'I'm the best in the world, this win was all me'. But it wasn't he lucked into it. And its been the same many times this year. And he acts like it was his doing. People don't seem to realise how many race wins he has lucked into. I'm not a Kimi fanboy, but Kimi would have been the 2005 champion with the car issues. Infact, Alonso is lucky to even have one title. Last two races of 2006, his luck blew sky high!
Yeah,I am sick and tired of people praising his ability to inherit wins when drivers in front of him have led the entire race
Kimi lost 3 races(retired from them meant 0 points rather than 30 points)due to the unreliability of the car.Idiots blamed him,but conveniently forgot McLaren had reliability issues even in the Hakkinen years, and that all those reliability problems were nowhere to be seen in 2003 and 2007 (when he finally won the title).
@keytek9 true i think it was 4 or 5 races at Nurburgring where he DNF. I know for sure 07 and 09 were DNF's but not sure how many he suffered while driving with McLaren
I loath James Allen. Whatever pocessed the BBC to hire him for 2011 is beyond me. Sorry 5Live listeners :(
JKayFI 1 week ago
The Tires in 2005 is what which ruined Ferrari that year, and it was also sadly the final year of the V10
Ezza190 2 weeks ago
that Honda was soooo close:D
gemini7Sky 2 weeks ago
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ChAoMC 3 weeks ago
the saddest moment in F1 :(
Rizleyy 1 month ago
0:47 : almost :D
Diavolo471 1 month ago
@IINEZZAII Of course they were allowed to change tyres
TheLambov12 1 month ago
@TheLambov12 Know your F1 history. In 2005, for some godforsaken reason, the rules were you had to run the whole race on one set of tyres. Only if a tyre got damaged or punctured, were you allowed to change it. They still pitted for fuel though - watch any pit stop footage from 2005 and you'll see the mechanics inspecting the tyres, but not changing them.
ensuingyelps 1 month ago
@ensuingyelps Oh my mistake, was it to do with the USA grand crash Ralf had?
TheLambov12 1 month ago
0:33 - 0:40 makes me smile cos i'm a liverpool fan;)
09rob12341 2 months ago
0:45 Bollocks.
SebbyHaughtonf1 2 months ago
Ahw did he fuck up in the last lap.. i hate that
SmokerFace12 2 months ago
i love this man lol
Naekeed 2 months ago
Kimi only wants to win.. If u aint first....you're last... hehhe
JustinJuiceTV 3 months ago 2
@JustinJuiceTV lol ricky bobby's father's quote to his son
WilliamCheah88 3 months ago
That front right looks flatspotted in the on board camera. I wouldn't have been surprided if he hadden't locked up that tyre earlier on. I daresay the vibrations from the flat spot eventually shattered the suspension.
AshHill07 3 months ago 2
@AshHill07 That's exactly what did happen.
davepusey 3 months ago 6
@davepusey Raikkonen had flat spotted his right front in several places during that race, and even his left front a few times. Not a Raikkonen fan, but this incident was solely FIA's fault, the unparalleled idiocy displayed in changing the rules so that teams cannot change tyres unless they were 'severely damaged'. There was no proper explanation how severe 'severely damaged' was supposed to mean either.
tingtongbundy 3 months ago
guys guys u did not see the race, u need to know what happened before
pitcrew knew about vibrations and tires but Kimi took the gamble for 1st place and lost it
Kimi has had all the bad luck any driver can have, and still he is a champion
i never understood why such a great racer doesnt get more opportunities in f1 politics show.
Jeeve79 3 months ago
I cant believe that dumbass tye rule (nothing to do with this race)
muddwell 3 months ago
this is why they re-introdiused tire changes in 2006
hamiltonfan4eva 4 months ago
Gran mentira de la formula 1, este paquete sobrevalorado
SoyTuPeorPesadilla88 4 months ago
Kimi was the real champ that year and 2003.
slannmage 5 months ago
@slannmage I think Alonso deserved the title that year. He drove brilliantly all the season with the exception of the Canadian GP. He had the fastest car at the start of the season but by midseason the McLaren was already the fastest car. Kimi drove brilliantly as well, but you can't be champion with a car that regularly fails.
I agree with you about 2003 though.
SiulF1 5 months ago
in the last lap D:
igor180400 5 months ago
why would pitting have made a difference?, you weren't aloud to change tyres in 2005
IINEZZAII 5 months ago
@IINEZZAII - Not even for a puncture? Surely they could argue the tyres were damaged.
davepusey 5 months ago
@davepusey You were allowed to change the tyre which is deemed unsafe or has a puncture that year. But not the other tyres
StagecoachLondonKid 5 months ago
@davepusey Regulations allowed tyre change on safety reasons, only allowed to change the damaged tyre which in retrospect seems kinda stupid. Having 3 tyres say on 30 laps and one brand spanking new tyre, must in theory cause great imbalance in grip. No tyre change must be one of the worst regs ever.
sgjuniordk 5 months ago
@davepusey agreed. You could physically see the vibrations from the onboard cam perspective during the last eight or nine(!) laps. I was biting my nails watching Kimi and thought to myself "my goodness, he is never ever gonna make it" until he crossed the finish line to start his last lap. Then I thought "he's really gonna make it", and two seconds later - bang! Either way he would have been allowed to change tyres.
TheColinChapman 5 months ago
@IINEZZAII lol your an idiot ofc you could change the tires on the car hahahahaha.
Magi191 5 months ago
@Magi191 "A hugely significant change in 2005 was the absence of tyre changes during pit stops. Under new regulations, a driver had to use one set of tyres during qualifying and the race itself". got that off wikipedia so next time think before you call some one an idiot.
IINEZZAII 5 months ago 2
@IINEZZAII Firstly Wikipedia is in putted by public and can be edited by anyone so never trust everything you read on it, they teach you that in school lol. When they tried to change the tire regulations it was at the beginning of the season and then thrown out due to it being too dangerous. Secondly if you actually listen to the commentary in the video clip you clearly hear Murry Walker say at 0.48 "I said he should have pitted, I told ya" There is my thinking, maybe you should do some.
Magi191 5 months ago
@Magi191 ok fair enough youve proved me wrong, for the record its James Allen
IINEZZAII 5 months ago
@IINEZZAII Yeah I'll give you that one my bad sounded quite similar until you said to be fair.
Magi191 5 months ago
@IINEZZAII wtf are you on about, yes they could change tyres, how else would they finish a race then? :/ look up f1 2005 tyre rules on google if you dont beleive me idiot
weebogue 4 months ago
@IINEZZAII They were allowed to change damaged tyres
blainyrules 3 months ago
@IINEZZAII you was..
Chingonshushu 1 month ago
@IINEZZAII You were allowed to change tires, otherwise this would have happened every race
xTDLWx 2 weeks ago
@IINEZZAII You could change 1 tire in 2005 during the races if u had problems like he did or a flat tire.
keiranperchisback 1 week ago
oh i hated this race. i felt like alonso stole that from him. kimi deserved that win
zjc177 5 months ago
Pobreee. ... Tuvo muy mala suerte . tenia un coche muy poco consistente merecia ganar ese mundial
TheIcemangirl 5 months ago
you couldnt change the tyres anyway
willbrownrally 5 months ago
my 2 cents the flat spot on the tire did so much vibration that the suspension broke
ipi223 5 months ago
This reminded me of how much I hated James Allen's commentary.
JunkieJay3000 6 months ago 29
@JunkieJay3000 What are you on about? James Allen was a very good commentator, he simply had a dip in quality in 2007 and 2008 when he had his willy well and truly buried up Hamilton's arse.
bazil83 3 months ago
ich weiß es noch gut als es live im fernseh lief .. und ich freute mich wahnsinnig darüber als alonso fan .. allerdings tat mir raikönen auch leid ..
derdiedas0610 6 months ago
james allen is a fucking tosser.
xDeadmauZx 6 months ago
Button used his secret tacks ;D
jordie38 6 months ago
#LOL
cfcnlr 7 months ago
Raikonnen did win the race... he started last and finished first... of course he didn't complete the last lap .... but he had the moral victory.... Alonso you lucky basterd...lols
needchemistry 7 months ago 3
@needchemistry He had the moral victory but he definately did not win the race...
purexcrayons 7 months ago
Raikonnen did win the race... he started last and finished first... of course he didn't complete the last lap .... but he had the moral victory.... Alonso you lucky bastard...lols
needchemistry 7 months ago
kimi started from last position and still he prove that he have SKILLS
Abuddappaa 7 months ago
Tais Räikköstä vituttaa...
greymaggot 7 months ago
now, that front right wheel was a fuckin troll
sebbobroffa 7 months ago
very poor audio quailty..
rakka84 7 months ago
@rakka84 - Old VHS tape, as mentioned in video's description.
davepusey 7 months ago 15
the sad thing is that kimi won his 1st championship with ferrari and not with McLaren because his rival was the lucky Alonso... Bastard from Spain!!!
MrMasterSteven 8 months ago
@MrMasterSteven What? Kimi didn't win at McLaren because:
2002 - Rookie/Car far outclassed by Ferrari
2003 - Rockie/Unlucky engine failure at Nurburg
2004 - Car far outclassed by Ferrari
2005 - Car incredibly unreliable
2006 - Car not even almost on the pace of Ferrari and Renault
Kimi never lost a championship because of Alonso. In fact, in 2005 he never even raced Alonso.
Lap 1 - Kimi Overtakes Alonso
Lap 2 - Kimi extends lead to 32 seconds
Lap 3 - Engine explodes
blingadude 8 months ago
@MrMasterSteven cry more please!!
Dont blame Alonso, blame Mclaren for building such fast but SO unreliable car
nixxxon18 8 months ago
thats unfair kimi has won if the car wasnt so bad
S0ny27gamer 8 months ago
i hate alonso
he is just a two time luck world champion
with no skills and who does everything to win
Swanton360 8 months ago
@Swanton360 Alonso has no skills??? Die please! thanks
nixxxon18 8 months ago
@nixxxon18 before i die i will kill you bitch
Swanton360 7 months ago
@Swanton360 LOL
please how can you say that a double world champion who almost won another two championships has no skills? are you retarded or you dont know absolutely anything about F1??
nixxxon18 7 months ago
@Swanton360 dude, Alonso is the most complete driver on the grid. If you're going to criticise someone, at least come up with a decent argument.
muddwell 7 months ago
David Coulthard is so much better than James Allen
dannymarv 9 months ago
Shut up James Allen.
tubehows4life 9 months ago
MIss you Kimi, miss you a lot.
kanseis 9 months ago 3
Great video, Kimi Raikkonen should return to F!.
COBHCsnake 9 months ago
@COBHCsnake Tout à fais d'accord avec toi. Pour moi c'est l'un des meilleurs pilotes, voire peut être, le meilleur pilote du monde qui malheuresement n'a pas toujours eu de chance avec c'est voitures, notamment chez McLaren. Sinon je pense qu'il aurait était plusieurs fois champions du monde de F1.
76580Jimmy 9 months ago
Thank god James Allen is no longer commentating on TV...
Chunkychucky 9 months ago
The 2011 season will be the best for a long time, for one reason. The commentry will be done by 2 people who know what they are talking about. James Allen was a tool, and Jonathon Legard was even worse
Angus513 10 months ago
God damn bad luck!
He was leading, right?
Ford57483 11 months ago
LOL Mclaren are so stupid! Anyone remember china 2007?
aieljose 11 months ago
@aieljose McLaren used to be desperate to bring home wins in their excitement.
I think (2009,2010) recently they've realised that this attitude doesn't always work.
Sometimes you have to just take what you can get.
It's not all about winning.
If only they had gone into China 2007 with that mentality.
tjbayliss 11 months ago
@aieljose Hell yes, although Hamilton was to blame for that aswell, he was too quick coming into the pits.
UKRThracian 11 months ago
i was so angry after the racce. raikkonen and mclaren where the no.1 in that season but the luck was with alonso. that's not fair, kimi should hawe won that championship. i agree with guramaon, alonso won 2 titles but on others bad luck. he's a great driver, but also very lucky.
Mclaren722GT 11 months ago
@Mclaren722GT Raikkonen was the best that season, McLaren weren't. Fastest? Maybe. But the car wasn't a good one.
WhyGenFM3 11 months ago
@WhyGenFM3 the mclaren where clearly the fastets car, but the reanult where more reliable
Mclaren722GT 11 months ago
All f1 drivers of today are shit compared to Alonso,he's winning gps without having the best car in his hands, the ferrari was the 3rd best car in 2010 and he failed the title because of a poor strategy.
Oh and please thrumbs down/flag it as spam/insult me ; that's the only thing you're able to do to deny the truth :)
FrenchiKO 1 year ago
Memories of Spain 2001 came back to haunt me after watching this- a McLaren losing the win on the final lap//
MotorsportMonster 1 year ago
vettel only became champion cus dominicali is a arsehole he was suppose to pit and cover of vettel and hamilton not webber
Adam786Rs2 1 year ago
@Adam786Rs2 What are you talking about?
Zobzon69 10 months ago
@Zobzon69 dude, at 0:45 Kimi's suspension snaps
Zobzon69 9 months ago
Is James Allen a Liverpool fan?
onewildcarl82 1 year ago
como presionó Alonso de bien
castelbcn 1 year ago
this proves what a fluke alsonso was
Adam786Rs2 1 year ago
pitting doesnt fix a broken suspension
Zobzon69 1 year ago 27
@Zobzon69 it wasnt suspension,it was the tyre
mkar1965bill 6 months ago
@mkar1965bill he didnt have a broken suspension, he flat spotted his tyre and it vibrated everything and made it break :P
HENRYERE2K8 5 months ago 2
@Zobzon69 It wasn't a broken suspension! It was a tyre with a faulty tyre that had an anormal wear! Don't say things when you don't know what are talking about! It would be better to achieve a podium than 0 points...
ordnas1234 6 months ago
@Zobzon69 Right, but the suspension was ok, the tire not. In 2005 FIA rules forbid tyre changes, one set for race, excluding punctures or rain.
He made a huge flatspot during heavy braking, 3 or 4 laps before the accident. Such vibrations caused the carbon fiber strut to fail, too much force.
For me, Kimi in that race, was an hero staying out and not to pit.
GTElwood 5 months ago
@GTElwood You r right about flashpot but it happend 10-20laps earlier, not 4laps..
After that car just get worst and worst until it broke whole suspension
christian86a 5 months ago
@christian86a Wow, what a memory.... i'm sorry, probably i'm getting older. :)
GTElwood 5 months ago
@GTElwood :D Well im from Finland.. 6years has elapsed and I'm still in shock of what happend there :S
christian86a 5 months ago
@Zobzon69 that wasnt the case. when he lapped villeneuve something happened with the tyre what caused massive vibration and that vibration broke his suspension. they try to make it to the finish but it wasnt meant to be unfortunately. while kimi was in f1 he wasnt very lucky. 2 world champion title ended up in schumaher and alonso hand because of mechanical and engine failures. well at least he got 1 title in 2007. shame he is not in f1 anymore.
ChuckLevike 5 months ago
@Zobzon69 It was not suspension´s fault, It was a deep spot on the tyre (caused because locking tires) that caused vibrations..
SPE0H 5 months ago
what a pity raikkonen.. And ALONSO IS JUST FUCKING LUCK!! I ALMOST CRY WATCH THIS (I WAS 9 years old at that moment..)
aryatololHTF 1 year ago
I remember this weekend,this is the year wnen no changes the tires,and i think there is fly bye Raikkonen's championship....(sorry 4 my english)
MrAltafino 1 year ago
James Allen has the most annoying voice I've ever heard.
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
How many of Alonso's wins come of shit like this or dubious means? I can name four of the top of my head:
1.this grand prix
2.Japanese gp of 2006
3.Singapore gp of 2008
4.And, of course, following in the Ferrari "first driver-second drver" tradition, the German gp of 2010.
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 That's 4 wins. What do you have to say about the other 22?
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@UltimateWheelman What I am trying to say is, he is remarkably talented, but like all drivers who have an amazing CV, he has had some moments of undeserved success.
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Very true.
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@UltimateWheelman and, since you asked....Korea 2010, Bahrain 2010.....the other 20 seem legitimate.
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 There you go. 20 wins is still a lot.
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
I still use VHS from time to time...
nothing wrong with that
jockejocke1 1 year ago
to be fair to Alonso, this was Kimi's fault
he flat spotted his own tyre
"to finish first, first you must finish"
...I should point out, I'm NOT an Alonso fan, I was a Kimi fan
antbubb 1 year ago
its funny cus alonso gets championships and wins because of mechanicals....
tsToasterwaffle 1 year ago
Kimi really deserved the campionship that year. Alonso was fukking luccky
lumipifeslb 1 year ago
Poor Kimi.... at least he was WDC in 07...
Lock007i 1 year ago
Alonso must be one of the luckiest drivers in F1, but good drivers have to be lucky too.
Henkkaaa89 1 year ago
what for a great feel for the driver at this moment when he see that the wheel brakes
0341er 1 year ago
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there he goes the champion who wins because the others dont finish, just rememeber japan 2006 and Korea 2010
guromaon 1 year ago 29
@guromaon To finish first, first you must finish.
davepusey 1 year ago 6
@davepusey
Ron Dennis ?
VR46Nico 10 months ago
@guromaon
Fortunately his luck ran out in 2010.
If not for Vettel's mechanical failures in Australia and Korea, Vettel would have been champion long before the final race.
Laps led in 2010. Vettel 383. Alonso 126. Yeah, the one with not even a third laps led of the other should be champion (pardon my sarcasm).
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago 27
@McLarenMercedes And without Alonsos mechanical failures he would have been champion. So what.
Saki2407 10 months ago
@Saki2407
383 laps led vs 126.
Which one had more mechanical failures when in an easy lead would you say?
Did Alonso even have a mechanical failure in 2010?
McLarenMercedes 10 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Don't know wich Formula One Season you watched but Alonso had troubles with his gearbox in Malaysia and later with his engine. Mechanical failures 2-1 for Vettel. UUUUUhhh so much more ...
But you can say it in other words. Vettel had the absolutely best car but was not able to bring the victorys he should. He destroyed his car in a few dumb crashes like his noobish moves in Istanbul or Spa.
Saki2407 10 months ago
@Saki2407 How many of those cost Alonso a victory? Dont get me wrong, I would have prefered Ferrari to have a drivers champion, but Vettel deserved the title last year, plain and simple.
MetaKnightsKirby 10 months ago
@MetaKnightsKirby That was not the question. Alonso could be champion. Vettel didn't deserved the title. It was Newey who deserved it. With a car that is about 1 second faster than all others you should much earlier be champion and not in the last race. Like Mansell 1992.
Webber did a better job in my opinion. He has not the reputation of Vettel and Red Bull didn't want him to be the champion. But he has beaten Vettel many times. Webber should be the champion.
Saki2407 10 months ago
@Saki2407 Had Massa not been unlucky in the earlier races and then lost his motivation somewhat after the German GP, he could have been champion to. Whats your point? Vettel beat Webber in the same car, how can you say Webber drove better or was more deserving, especially given the many victories Vettel lost due to unreliablity last season.
MetaKnightsKirby 9 months ago
@MetaKnightsKirby Massa never had a chance against Alonso and he was far away from a title. Webber was the leader of the championship for the most time. He was many times faster as Vettel. Red Bull wanted Vettel for champion and they gave all the support to him. Without it he wouldn't be champion. Vettel is a good driver. Maybe better as Webber. But Webber did a better job and thats why he would deserve the title more than Vettel.
Saki2407 9 months ago
@Saki2407 That was an example of how you can stretch the "but if so and so did this they would have won" to far to be believable. You could stretch it to "if the Lotus was faster this year Trulli could have been champion"...
However, I still fail to see how Vettel did a worse job than Webber when he was consistently faster through the majority of the season AND came out with more points despite his numerous mechanical failures. If you like to use the number of laps lead, Vettel takes that too.
MetaKnightsKirby 9 months ago
@MetaKnightsKirby What bullshit are you talking about? For the dumbs again: I SAID Vettel is a better driver as Webber but he made too much mistakes like Istanbul, Spa or Silverstone. Vettel should have won championship much earlier. Webber had more points for most of the time. He was many times faster as Webber and thats why he did a better job and thats why he deserved to win the title. So what's your problem?
Saki2407 9 months ago
@MetaKnightsKirby Correction: I mean He was many times faster as VETTEL (talking about Webber)
Saki2407 9 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Yep. Malaysia he had a mechanical failure and that was about it. I seem to remember some other misfortune for him the race before or after but can't quite remember. It may have even been massa.
HamiltonWebberfan 9 months ago
@McLarenMercedes put alonso in a redbull vettel wud suck alonsobtw had the mostfatest laps 2010 vettel isn't fast fast he's not consistent and lets face it webber ain't a world cLIBER DRIVER ALONSO WUD CREAM VETTEL
dojOdRiFTeR 9 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Yeh but Alonso in 2010 was in the 3rd best car (I think 4th as Renault with Kubica had 3rd best) so looking at it this way Alonso nearly won the 2010 wdc in the 3rd best car so damn HES GOOD " its just a pity all the commentators & presenters are British & are half way up Lewis's tail pipe " just wish people would see the true Alonso who holidays in Wales & left his family at 13 in a cart made for his sister rather than the pantomime villain made by the British & I'M BRITISH "
LedFanZeppelin 9 months ago
@LedFanZeppelin To be honest, the Ferrari was probably the 2nd best car in the latter half of the season and certainly better than the Renault.
MetaKnightsKirby 9 months ago
@McLarenMercedes maybe he led more laps, but its only the final lap that counts.
and this isnt a playstation game with no engine failures. these things happen in reality u dope :D
singningwongho 8 months ago
@singningwongho Yes but do you consider fair to lead a race for 58 laps where you have been driving perfectly and to lose it but not by your own fault and on the other hand to bennefit from the others bad luck and to lead the race for 1 single lap and to take 10 points from your rival.Judically you're right but in principle I don't consider this to be justice
blerand91 7 months ago
@blerand91 maybe its not fair and was totally cruel in reality, but thats racing. anything can happen and usually does. it happens to all the greats :D but i know what u r saying so i can agree with u on some level :D
singningwongho 7 months ago
@singningwongho I agree with you that you have to cross the line to win a race but Raikkonen was followed by a huge bad luck,far away from the other drivers.Remember he retired from the lead in at least 3 or 4 races.Ok it's tolerable it it happens once or twice during the sseason because it can happen to everyone and it's acceptable but the way it happened to him was really cruel.
blerand91 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Laps led has nothing to do with who wins the title, both drivers won 5 races. Vettel should've won the season by August, the reason he didn't was his own mistakes - Turkey, Spa, Silverstone.
He had 10 poles, yet could only turn two of those to victories. Alonso won from all of his poles, Hamilton from his, Webber from 2/3 of his. Maybe it was inexperience or him not being able to handle pressure (more likely), but it was his own fault it went down to the final race.
thesurgeon 6 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
Implying that most laps lead=championship
All drivers had their share of bad luck, but Vettel's car was a lot better than Alonso's, hence the amount of laps lead. The fact that Alonso in the number 2 car almost won the title shows that Alonso>Vettel.
PJ2436 6 months ago
@guromaon Maybe if Kimi had not flat-spotted his tire while trying to lap a backmarker he would've finished the race. Ever think of that? What about the fact that the McLaren was the fastest car of 2005, the Ferrari was the better car in the 2nd half of 2006, and the Red Bull was the fastest car of 2010. How is Alonso supposed to win on speed when the cars he has had in your examples were not fast enough to compete for the win?! And I say this as a big Vettel/Raikkonen fan!!
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@UltimateWheelman Mclaren was the fastest car in 2005 but it had reliability problems, so it didnt finish several races that's the reason Renault won both championships
guromaon 1 year ago
@guromaon Kimi and JPM only had two car-related DNF's each. Remember, too, that Kimi doesn't win Spa without JPM's help and doesn't win Hungary without JPM's engine problem, so there are two wins right there that Kimi was given.
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@UltimateWheelman what I remember from Spa 2005 is Montoya crashing with Antonio Pizzonia, great!
guromaon 1 year ago
@guromaon So you forgot that Montoya was ahead of Kimi for most of the race, I see.
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@UltimateWheelman what else do you except from a teammate who was slower for the most of his first year.
raketman101 1 year ago
@raketman101 And injured....for whatever reason haha!
UltimateWheelman 1 year ago
@guromaon in korea 2010 it is the champion who doesn't finish ^^
jort999 1 year ago 2
@guromaon what does korea have anything to do with anything?
daytona81 1 year ago
@daytona81 Vettel lead the whole race and Alonso was second, Vettel had mechanical failures and couldnt finish, Alonso won, its a similar situation and Alonso almost wins the championship because of that last year
guromaon 1 year ago
@guromaon It's unbelievable how much i agree with you!!!
WillHapgood2 1 year ago
@guromaon so? still winning :)
khronoGTA 1 year ago
I can't stand Alonso. After this race, he was acting all like 'I'm the best in the world, this win was all me'. But it wasn't he lucked into it. And its been the same many times this year. And he acts like it was his doing. People don't seem to realise how many race wins he has lucked into. I'm not a Kimi fanboy, but Kimi would have been the 2005 champion with the car issues. Infact, Alonso is lucky to even have one title. Last two races of 2006, his luck blew sky high!
Craig7793 1 year ago 5
@Craig7793
Yeah,I am sick and tired of people praising his ability to inherit wins when drivers in front of him have led the entire race
Kimi lost 3 races(retired from them meant 0 points rather than 30 points)due to the unreliability of the car.Idiots blamed him,but conveniently forgot McLaren had reliability issues even in the Hakkinen years, and that all those reliability problems were nowhere to be seen in 2003 and 2007 (when he finally won the title).
Alonso is a modern day Nelson Piquet
AlexDeLarge90 1 year ago 3
@AlexDeLarge90 And when the guy in front of him doesn't retire, it happens to be his teammate, who faithfully backs off!
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
Alonso noob.
PMDGpilot737 1 year ago
he always had bad luck in nurburing
keytek9 1 year ago
@keytek9 true i think it was 4 or 5 races at Nurburgring where he DNF. I know for sure 07 and 09 were DNF's but not sure how many he suffered while driving with McLaren
ap821116 1 year ago
James Allan is a total cock
mmmbilly 1 year ago 3
you win, or you lose. thats kimi's attitude. and i like that. kimi come back to f1!
mrmistercharles 1 year ago 3
i realy love this crash
motorsportfan1990 1 year ago
some times, I think the mecanics hates kimi
timykaien 1 year ago
bad luck to kimmi, he forced his car and this is the result.
TheMaluc 1 year ago
Big crash.
jonw82 1 year ago
kimi will always win if he has the perfect car
atvonz 1 year ago
@atvonz
was the 2004 McLaren perfect?? no, he still won in Spa with it that year.
WASPTexas 1 year ago
James Allan best commentator good times!
Atricz 1 year ago
possibly the worst commentary by a lead commentator ever, in the history of motorsport commentary. christ.
I TOLD YER. I TOLD YER YOU SHOULD HAVE PITTED, YER DICKHEAD.
schumiisking 1 year ago
ALONSO the best!!!!!
MaDBoTee 1 year ago
That was kimi's race!
Zanzan014 1 year ago
who was 'the common sense man'' anyone?
MclarenGooner10 1 year ago
its Räikkönen not Raikkonen :D
minidonitsi0 1 year ago
Who remembers that Alonso went off at the Dunlop curve in this race, drove on the gravel, but was able to return to track.
RedPhroggz 1 year ago
kimi is always unlucky with nurburing
keytek9 1 year ago
He didnt want a podium, he wanted the win. 2005 WAS KIMI's year!!! He kicked ass untill the car failed so many times.
mybizuk 1 year ago 4
VHS? In 2005/2006?
TheMilker 1 year ago
It's unbelievable i know, but i didn't get freeview until early 2007, and didn't have PDTV recording until mid 2008.
davepusey 1 year ago
Ah, i see. Thought this was from a season review :P
TheMilker 1 year ago