I dont like those danmn republicans. What have they done but critisize Obama. Saying stupid shit like they only can such as obama is not a US citizen. He releases his birth certificate and they still bitchin about it. They are a bunch of narrow minded rednecks and racist. They cut 38 billion from the budget. I dont have a problem with cut backs but why does it have to be social programs that help the poor and disadvantaged? These fukin republicans are not christians they are hypocrites.
@veeseee128 hey! -I know you, you're that ignorant hunk of flying twisty shit pouring forth from my ass like a peanut coated brown geyser...liberals by definition are the most close minded hypocrites to grace the planet are akin to small children taking a fit...you need a time out you blind bitch.
ps -you spelled "fucking" incorrectly you retarded cunt
tahts politics for you both sides are wrong in so many ways and you cant choose a middle right now cause it doesnt exist cause when you choose the middle you have no friends
@matshadwhite Socially one may be liberal and the other conservative, but economically the only difference is that one is slightly more pro market and the other leans slightly more towards social democracy. Instead of looking for a middle ground, it might be best to look elsewhere for political inspiration!
And I suppose your plan for "reaching consensus" is to make random ad-hominem attacks on people who dissent from your ideological camp. It looks like the rest of your ideologically-minded friends are onto the same idea.
Well, the "progressives"got their way - and two years on the economy is in a shambles, the deficit is skyrocketing, and anyone who complains about it is branded as a Right-wing neo-Nazi racist loonie.
Yes you did. Now try to convince me you lot aren't ethically bankrupt.
@DrCruel And exactly what has Obama been able to do to fix the economy and the rest of the BUSH administration's fuck ups that hasn't been obstructed by the republicans? Please go back to watching Glenn Beck like the rest of the drones who need media messiahs to do all their thinking for them.
@MoonmanCometh Might I quote Richard Santelli? STOP SPENDING.
As for "Bush's fuckups", I don't see anything to distinguish Obama's policies from those of Bush, outside of pushing for a kleptocratic takeover of the health care industry. Sounds more like just some more BDS crapola to me.
Maybe if you stopped reading ZMag and listening to sycophantic idiots like Jon Stewart, we could have an intelligent conversation.
@DrCruel LOL "Leftist Elite?" It takes a lot of spin to turn the son of a single mother who worked tirelessly for the betterment of his community before going into politics into an "elitist," but some rich dude who wants to hang the poor out to dry and parcel the country out to his rich friends is a principled man of the people. What exactly is "elitist" about programs that help the poor and working class?
@DrCruel Yeah, so the best way to deal with the budget deficit is to further wreck the economy by making sure that the poor continue to live hand to mouth while the rich take their money out of the country. Great. I suppose your answer to a house fire involves matches and a can of hair spray.
@yerk3 Let me get this straight. Your assertion is that to rein in federal spending amounts to making the poor starve and making the rich send their money overseas? Since when did pork barrel spending suddenly become an antedote for class inequality?
Have you ever worked in DC? Have you any idea how much waste and corruption there is in the federal system? I saw it first hand.
Go look at an employee parking lot at a federal office. You'll get a good idea where most of that money's going.
@DrCruel Since the services the Republicans and libertarians want to cut mainly benefit the poor, then yes, the poor would starve. Nobody needs to make the rich send their money over seas, they do that of their own volition. Offshore bank accounts are very convenient when you have a lot of money and hate questions. What would you define as "pork barrel spending?" Teachers' meager salaries? Roads? Public schools? Do you think a private corporation would be any less corrupt?
@yerk3 One corporation would be as corrupt. Many competing corporations would be much less so.
Teachers do not make "meager salaries" in the public school system, and there are lines of new hopefuls looking for such plum jobs. I graduated from a teacher's college, and am quite familiar with the public school industry. There's nothing "meager" about the money involved.
If you demonize business, you will have less of it. How then will you pay for all these government employees and programs?
@DrCruel Corporations don't even have to pretend to have anyone's interests at heart. Anything that didn't generate massive profits would be shut down. Say goodbye to public schools, or if they do exist, their purpose would be to make sure that everyone knew just enough to buy their products. Say goodbye to roads and bridges. If anyone became destitute, they would be left to starve, because how would helping poor people turn a profit?
@yerk3 I'd be happy to say goodbye to public schools, at least in the inner cities. I've had to tutor too many kids from such schools - kids that should have had the opportunity to go to better private schools or charters.
Why do we need a public school monopoly anyway? We have a mix of public and private colleges, and students can choose which one they want to attend. What makes elementary and secondary education so different?
As for the poor, why didn't they starve before welfare?
@DrCruel And how would these inner city kids have paid for private schools? With manna from heaven? Have you noticed something about private colleges? Mainly the fact that they are insanely expensive, not everyone can afford to go to them, and those that do end up in debt until they're 40? So you want to extend that to elementary and middle school? Brilliant! Look forward to stories about people selling their organs to pay off debts from 3rd grade.
@DrCruel Of course, a more likely outcome is that they wouldn't be able to go at all, and literacy will once again be the province of the upper classes only. What you are proposing is therefore a return to the days of feudalism, where only the aristocrats could read and everyone else was an illiterate serf.
@yerk3 When the average per pupil expendiature on public schools exceeds the tuition for private schools? What are you talking about?
We have private colleges and universities, and we have Pell Grants to help student pay for them. Why not have a voucher system, where elementary and secondary students can go to any institution of learning they qualify for? How is it that allowing poor, intelligent kids to attend private rather than public schools at government expense will lead to feudalism?
@DrCruel Where are you getting your statistics? Everything you have been saying here has the reek of bullshit about it. Pell grants are nowhere near as easy to get as you are suggesting. Public vouchers for education would essentially be public education, so why not cut out the middle man and reform the public school system in stead of overhauling it for something that sounds good from a distance to unrealistic libertarians.
@yerk3 I used a number of sites, but you can simply check teacherportal. It's where a prospective teacher might go to find out which states offer the highest salaries.
Public vouchers for education would allow students and parents to choose the school they wanted, rather than be forced into one based on residency credentials. The public school unions are dead set against the idea, because it breaks up their monopolistic control over their very profitable public school industry.
@DrCruel Your assertions about public school teachers bear no resemblance to the truth. Teachers' salaries are notoriously low, this is common knowledge. I doubt that you have ever worked at a public school, despite what you may say, because what you are saying contradicts the testimony of every teacher I have heard from. I do not demonize business, I just think they should have to play by the rules, don't have anybody's interests at heart but the CEO's, and need strong oversight.
@yerk3 It's not simply my assertion - it's a fact. Teacher salaries in the US average in excess of $40,000 a year. Benefits and pension plans boost this even further. Might I remind also, that teachers make this over a nine month span - they get three months off each year.
Go talk to some private school teachers before you start calling me a liar. Better yet, do some of your own research instead of depending on unionized public school teachers for your info. It isn't exactly hard to do.
Believe me the rest of the civilised world is looking on at America's utter panic at the healthcare issue and wondering what on earth the fuss is about. We all have public healthcare, have done for years, think it's pretty good actually. Being able to go to the hospital for free is a right I was born with and its what I expect as a citizen of my country.
America scares us a little, out here on the edges, due to being so huge and so powerful and sometimes, so damn backwards.
Liked you til I saw this one. Obama's pic should be next to definition of "snarkiness." Get some objectivity & see his passive-aggressive haughtiness & condescension. By the way, being a "Community Organizer" PSHAW- I suppose we should look at what is now a living adjective called CHICAGO, the perfectly organized community. Where homeless vagrants actually threaten tourist & follow them into restaurants. mass shootings occur- all that "organizing" Obama did, no good.
@QueenZelma Criticising Palin for her remarks /= endorsing Obama. And being a community organiser is a noble thing, and does a lot of good. Improvement /= making everything perfect - Obama's not the messiah, how was he going to solve all Chicago's homelessness and crime at a stroke?
it funny how i see these comments abput Obama this and that do you think the damn GOP would of gotten us out of this mess the mess that they couldve fix by um idk paying their damn bills not make tax cuts than going to war. war cost money come on lets be real
The "mess" is massive amounts of loans made to people who had no hope to pay them back.. and the reselling of these loans and their securitization and subsequent infection of the entire money system.. fueled by Left wing social policy, an out of control Fed, an incompetent GOP, and dishonest loaners and loanees (is that a word?)
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You tend to make some good points but your logic in general is severely flawed. You have fallen into the same trap as most people who lean towards the left. The idea that something is "right" because that is the way you think it should be. Entitlement is the cancer that eats away at this country and community organizations spread that cancer like butter. Making people feel as if they are owed some sort of societal debt, just because they exist. Utter nonsense.
@thiswickedearth - You were 100% correct in your comment regarding entitlement and people feeling that society "owes" them something...I believe in helping people that are truly in need, but it's like the old saying,"Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he can eat for life."
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Lol how do you think messiah Obama is doing one year after this video was made. I love watching these old pro Obama videos where many Obama supporters where tricked by an expensive election campaigns to actually think that Obama will do everything that he promised.
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Wow, we are so better off with Obama. You voted for him obviously, not me. We are still at war, in debt more then we've ever been and unemployment is rising. It's dopes like this guy who are what's wrong with America.
THey are not raising the costs the costs are getting passed on to everyone who pays because of the illegal immigrants who already get free health care and the poor who like going to the doctor for socializing with a doctor or nurse. If you want rationed care go to the UK.
Big pharma has a 17-20 percent profit margin. Big insurance has an average of 3 percent. Who did he take care of and who does he want to socialize? Do you really think OBama gives a crap about you or do you think the truth that he got bought off by the richer and will let his corrupt buddies take over the health care industry?
3 percent? Last I heard quoted, people were saying the overhead for administrative salaries and expenses was like 3 percent for Medicare compared to like 14 percent for the insurance industry. If you found 3 percent somewhere I'm sure all the major news outlets would love to get a look at it, because that's not what their reporters are reporting.
You still have not levelled a credible argument of why we should not rein in an industry that raises premiums 4 times the growth of wages, and when people need coverage the most they get dropped. You can dislike Obama all you want and you clearly do, but despite what you want, Obama isn't the topic, reform of health care is. There's one side of the aisle that is overall trying to reform things, and the other side overall is doing everything they can do to block reform. It is hard to justify.
I'll say it again. the profit margins for insurance companies 3 % big pharma 17-20%. Big pharma bought OBama off, and he wants to take over insurance so he can give his fellow corrupt friends more money and power.
by saying it again, you are again trying to say that Obama is the problem and not the health insurance industry ;)
Profit margin which you love to cite is the amount of profit after all salaries and expenses are paid. What it doesn't reflect is that no one in any agency overseeing any public option is going to be making $124 million a year like the CEOs of some of these insurance companies. Profits are what go to shareholders...not this stuff.
By saying it again I reiterated the point that they are not the problem. Socializing it will make a huge problem. If you want lower rates then pass Tort reform. Quit giving illegal and legal immigrants free health care. Quit letting people with free health care eat what ever the hell they want. Let the smokers and fat people pay their share. Right now government regulations do not allow insurance to bill them beyond 10 percent from the healthy counterparts.
While I respect your opinion I cant else but differ. It really isn’t that simple. Central in your logics is the idea of one individual’s aptitude to take care of himself. Either that then the person in question doesn’t deserve help. This theory is implanted deep into the American conservative mentality but it is absolutely not founded.
The truth of the matter is that 20 percent of all Americans live under the poverty line. And this doesn’t even include those “illegal immigrants”. I might also add that over 45 million, yeah that’s right, 45 million Americans don’t even have any health insurance.
Your "exquisite" universal healthcare only leads to a poorer quality and rationing of care. And because of budget constraints, a lot of times bureaucrats will defund certain medical services offered to patients.
As far as poverty, we have welfare programs. You know, those great society programs established to abolish poverty, but still hasn't! Yea, we have more people on welfare now than we did in 1964. I'm sure you knew that right ;)
You are wrong in so many ways I dont know what to correct first.
Im going to simplify it. Universal healthcare has been proven, not only sustainable, but beneficial (both when it comes to health insurance and in terms of the pharmaceutical industry) in most democratic countries in Europe and even in your area, Cuba and Canada. And such, I have no reason to believe that universal healthcare wouldn’t work in the US. Why wouldnt it?
Now, regarding the poverty raise during the last era in American history. I found it funny that you referred to this as an argument seeing as, once again, capitalism is to be blamed for this. In fact the gap between the socioeconomic classes in the United States is widening drastically and there are millions of people going hungry in this very same working for less than minimum wage and hardly getting by.
How do you think the state pays for all these gov services? Surely, you must know that the gov doesn't generate wealth, right? The economic system in the USA isn't a laissez faire capitalist economic system. It's a mixed market, quasi socialistic & capitalistic at the same time. The private sector is what brings revenue to the public treasury to help pay for your welfare state. So how is captalism fair? It's fair enough to let you sit on your ass collecting that welfare check.
Christ! Do you even read my comments? Or are you just extremely unintelligent? Because ive answered these questions over and over again.
The government will get money from tax payers. Raise the taxes and the government will be able to provide universal non-profit health care. And this every single citizen in america can contribute and make the US into a welfare state. Secondly, yes this system works. It is being used all over the world.
Lastly, a free market is one thing. Socialized healthcare is another thing. All democratic countries needs to find a good mix between capitalism and socialism. America has failed to do this and you got too much "capitalism". The evidence is your enormous poverty.
Shut the fuck up. You don't know shit. Free market? There is no such thing as a free market. There is intervention, rules, and regulations made by congress. Hence why in article 1, under the commerce clause, congress can regulate interstate and intrastate commerce. Too much capitalism? WTF? Are you brain dead or were you born stupid? We have medical coverage for our poor. It's called Medicaid moron.
I see you are trying to hide your lack of arguments behind insults. If you are really interesting in the damage of capitalism id suggest you read this
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. If you want to know more about the LACK of medical coverage "for the poor" then you want how to go far in your research. That would be a widely known fact.
Lack of medical coverage for the poor? Medicaid is ran by the feds ie bureaucrats. You're criticizing the very socialist program that lacks inadequate care to the poor?You're adamantly an advocate of ;)
There are countries for you to move to if you want a true socialist economy. Cuba is a great spot for people like yourself. You can live in a shack and everyone is economically equal. Except for the political class, because we all know that your hero's are the exemption. Later fuck head
I’m not advocating anything comparable to the joke widely known as Medicaid or Medicare. Im am speaking of an actual, real universal healthcare system which is a non-profitable healthcare system entirely founded by the state. Do you see the difference?
No the quality of healthcare in the US wont decrease as the Government will pay for the services using their reserves of tax money. Simply – you pay so the government can supply “the poor” with free healthcare.
According to the Institute of Medicine is the US the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage. I think its obvious that Medicare isnt enough when the lack of access to health care is already a crisis in America.
This is not human beings that deserve being out health care and insurance But convincing yourself that it is might deliberate you from the burden of responsibility. . These are poor people, unlucky enough to be born in poor families or in poor neighborhoods and if you come from the wrong place its practically impossible to get a decent job in the US. It’s the government and the remaining populations responsibility to take care of these folks and thus; socialism.
Considering how the media attacked Palin, i dont think you have much of a right to accuse the GOP of going on TV and "spitting" on peoples faces.
Also, before you start your hatin', realize I hate McCain and truly believe there is no diff between him and Obama, except it is easier for Obama to brainwash the black population.
Think I'm full of it? Search "i pledge obama" on youtube and go balls out.
i really think that the rublicans are the ones that is dividing up this country in a very bad way . between race and class. i don't like any of the parties mainly the repubicans just for that one fact. no one on the right could never see how george w. bush and other republicans have damaged this country., and for the democrats they are weak on alot of issues. but if i had to choose i would be the democrats by a long shot. i am an indenpendent and i have see both parties damage this country.
I sincerely hope you are joking about the racist comment, otherwise you are a liberal fool who thinks they can make anyone look bad just by spouting the "R" word. Dont like obama? RACIST! Dont like healtcare? RACIST! Dont like abortion? RACIST! Dont like forcing electric cars on the population? RACIST! Dont like the stimulus bills? RACIST! Calling a liberal a racist? RACIST! .....I do not know a single black person that likes obama because of his policies, only for his skin color. U go 2 hell.
you also sound like a babeling fool you don't have nothing to back up anything you are saying. i really think that you should listen to some of the comments that others have wrote to you. because it seen like you don't know anything. that is all !!!
Oh yeah, and after reading your other comments i see taht you are not joking, that you are calling everyone and their mother racist. You are obviously a fool that keeps using the same cop-out. Reply with whatever silly stupid moronic liberal racist accusations you want, you are not worth any more of my time.
that come to show you shit head that you can't even fucking read !!! i am a indenpendent !!! man you republicans all a retarts !!! and the dems are no better at time to.
by the sound of it you have beat me to it. ok try something new go have a taff pull with Tom Delay and jack abramoff(aka Jack Off) or better yet if you are really into role playing want you play brokeback mountain with that colon cowboy don imus. he have the hat for the job. yeppee ki yay don imus will turn you gay. don't tell me you even beat don imus to that to ???
I drink wine, and can't stand watching cars do laps. But it is funny to see you pull some steriotypes out. And by funny I mean hipocritical. Get a dictionary if you don't know what that word means.
Well, im not sure if you were talking to me or not, but i was only talking to Unel there, and i was using his own weapons against him, using baseless stereotyping. Anyways, if you were talking to me, it's spelled "hypocritical." I wanted to use your dictionary comment right back at you, but i like alot of your other comments so i wont. And if you want to rag my capitalization and grammar, just know im only lazy, not illiterate.
I hope your not backing that shit party on the right. If your talking shit u might as well mention the bullshit GOP. Fuck political parties!! That's how I feel and if you want back these fools your not part of the solution or the problem, Your part of the equation in a program and needs to be deleted for being biased. Bitch. And you should probably use the spell check so you can see "stereotypes" is spelled without an i. Why cant we see that HUGE Corporations have taken over America.
u my frieend should go "f" a treeand kill an unborn baby u damn liberal thats why theres so many fags in these beautifull cuontry am elephant all way baby i told everybody that would listen that obama sucks big "d" the bastaer cant talk with out somebody having there hand up hes ass next time vote republican and white dont change color maybe mexican asian cant drive a car i dont think they can handle a country thats its peace
you racists bastard, this country is based on freedom, i may be against you on this but don't think i'm a liberal, i hate them too anyone that makes up they're mind before they hear the issue is the bigest idiot ever. like most of our goverment.
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Stick to making fun of rappers buddy. Your political views are about as one-sided and misinformed as the politicians you make fun of. I enjoy your videos, but this one was not a good look for you.
if he's as black as Obama you must be as stupid as George bush. republicans always talking about communism. always calling president obama plan's socialism. an the republicans have to stop with there racism and stop running this country like hitler's Nazism. the republicans shouldn't believe in ism's but instead believe in themselfs. they didnt learn there lession during the elections. i guess that mankes me the walrus.
I fear President Obama is misleading the American people down the path to Socialism. Americans are not up to speed about what's at stake, they just hear "free lunch" and say why not? The Administration is compiling an enemies list, Obama does not care about the economy, just the issues he has waited to have; A Democratic House, Senate & Executive Branch of Gov. Don't get on the MOBama hit list. Achtung Citizen. Your mind is the enemy. Knowledge is destructive. Obedience is power
All I hear from republicans:Liberal media! squak squak Bill Ayers! squak squak Birth certificate! squak squak Socialism! squak squak Obama's Waterloo! squak squak I had an affair! squak squak Obama's a racist! squak squak No No No! squack squak I like torture, guns and Jesus! squak squak The surge worked! squak squak The stimulis faild! squak squak Palin is smart, really she is I swear! squak squak Rush told me to! squak squak He said 57 states so he's as dumb as Bush! squak squak
Wow. This is the third video of yours I've seen (a friend linked me to your "How to tell someone they're a racist" video and then I clicked on "No homo"), and just like with the previous two, you're very insightful. Subscribed!
Very good! Surely, you're educated to know that government gets its' money from the private sector?
You know what else is funny? You probably think that taxing the rich in America is a good thing! What are you going to do when the rich decide to move out of this country? Why do you think north eastern states are having problems in generating revenue for their public treasury?
Socialism doesn't work and Greece is living proof that socialism fails.
Gov research? What's your point? Wireless communication was chartered by private companies like IBM and Nokia. Ingenuity and innovations keeps getting better and better because of competition. Companies invest their capital into research and development. IBM developed the first touch screen, Apple perfected GUI interface & mp3, the first computer game was invented by Microsoft. Gov revenue comes from corporations; in which, corporations levy those taxes to the consumer. Later
My point is, in response to :'Better living conditions. Innovations come from the private sector, not public.'
Lame blanket statements that are parroting what you've heard on AM radio or some cable channel. Most US post war innovations 'plastic, jet engines and yes wireless technology (look it up)' came from wholly or partly funded with public funds.
Yes, public. Taxpayer money. My money.
Your simplistic, lame, Tea Party rants can't change that fact!
If capitalism created the american poverty and contrast between reach and poor, then socialistic reforms, such as higher taxes, free health care and so forth, might very well be the answer.
That was the dumbest answer I have read in my entire life. We've had socialist reforms for a long time my ignorant friend. How come gov programs hasn't eradicated poverty yet? The great society programs created by LBJ was designed to do away with poverty. Yet we have more people dependent now on gov than we did in 1964. All the trillions we've spent on welfare programs and we still have impoverished communities? Come on.
How can you possibly define that as socialistic reforms? I live in a country where I pay about half of my earned income in national and local taxes. Now that’s socialistic. And I live in a welfare state with free health care and an almost none existing poverty. You live in a country where almost 20 percent of all Americans live under the poverty line (hence really fucking poor). And 45 million Americans don’t even have any health insurance.
The definition for socialism? If you mean the definition of socialism then I can explain it to you.
Socialism is the basically the idea of public ownership or common ownership. I think you’ve confused socialism with communism which is something entirely different. For example, a socialized health care system is a health care system that is provided for everyone, regardless of personal economy, paid for by the state.
Like what they have in England, France, the Scandinavians. In fact I think most democratic country has a universal health care system except the USA. And thus, a socialistic reform in America would be to socialize the health care or raise the taxes. Hence im very well aware of the definition of socialism.
I live in Sweden, a Scandinavian country. If you would know anything about any other country than America (which you have proven to know very little about) you would know that Europe, especially the Scandinavian countries, are infamous for their extensive welfare system.
. And yet you ignorant, conservative assholes have the nerve to whine about taxes and your unfounded fear of the totally irrelevant “communism”. It staggers the mind.
@CarlMinez no we shouldn't complain about taxes we should all just do whatever the government thinks we should do and pay whatever the government thinks we should pay because that is how we became a country in the first place right?
I think you can live with higher taxes. See it as a "take from the rich - give to the poor" system. Its already practiced all around the world so why would american be any different? You tell me that.
@CarlMinez I think you can live with working for your money instead of taking my hard earned dollars. This is america. The system is that you work hard and you make money for doing so. That is the american dream. Not the government taking your money and giving it to people who they think need it. The whole incentive for working hard is to make money. If you take away that incentive people will not work hard and our economy falls apart. Please educate yourself before ever responding to me again.
Are you telling ME to educate myself? I am obviously more knowledgeable about your own country that you are which is just sad. And its all because of your primitive, egoistic social darwinism. But perhaps the fact that 17 percent of your population are living and dying under the poverty line doesnt bother you? Maybe you dont mind living in the worlds most economically unequal democracy in the world? Maybe you are just as dumb as the american stereotype suggests.
@CarlMinez Actually, jackass, it is called comprehension of how a free market economy works. Yes I am telling you to educate yourself because you obviously don't know anything about free markets. Like I said, the USA have the easiest ease of movement through classes than any other country in the world. Government interference only hinders this. It is not primitive. Charity is each individuals decision and i support it. But the US government as it is designed has no right to tell me i have to.
Of course I know that a free market is. I live in Sweden and we have a free market. The thing you have that we dont is massive problems with poverty and economy. Infact, we ranks first in the world in The Economist's Democracy Index and seventh in the United Nations' Human Development Index. And yet we are one of the most socialistic countries in the world.
@CarlMinez "The worlds most unequal democracy in the world?" besides the idiotic redundancy in this sentence, the idea of "economic equality for all" is nothing more than "economic suffering for all" people are payed based on the societies need for their services. And as much you don't want to admit it, it is very possible to move from lower class to upper class in the USA. Much easier than any other country in the world. I will not take lessons on the free market from a socialist like yourself.
Regarding the "redundancy", as you so eloquently described, I think its rather obvious that its a careless mistake rather than an actual grammatical error. I think youre getting desperate.
Dont you understand that you are on the top? We are the privileged minority. Its our mandate to help those who are less fortunate. Believing that the million of americans that have no jobs or practically live on the street are poor because they deserve to be poor is the most staggering mentality I can imagine. But I guess convincing yourself that everyone can make it in your system with just a little bit of hard work is how you shield yourself from the truth.
@CarlMinezThe USA also gives the most out of any country in the world in charity and global aid.Again,charity is not the governments job. You can do whatever you want to in whatever country you are from but this is the way the USA government was designed and it has worked pretty well up until now so please don't try force this socialism crap, which is literally exactly what you are describing, on us now.Socialism has failed time and time again because it gives people no incentive for hard work.
Why are people keep using the "charity" argument? Its completely unfounded. See my comments above.
Furthermore, no your system does not work pretty well. As mentioned you have a almost 20 percent poverty line. There are third world countries with better living standards. Your economy is crippled. The rest of the world thinks of you as the home of social injustice and you have the worst educational system of all industralised nations.
@CarlMinez Haha I just read you said there are third world countries with better living standards than the U.S. You are a clown and you obviously no nothing about economics or common sense. The U.S. government was not designed to be your baby sitter and pay your bills that is socialism. And yes I meant Socialism which is an economic policy not communism which is a political policy, although both are equally as ill- fated.
"Haha I just read you said there are third world countries with better living standards than the U.S."
I love when people are defeated by their own arguments. There ARE third world countries with lower poverty. Chile with its approximately 15 percent poverty line is an example. I could probably mention more third world countries but of obvious reasons i dont know the economical program of all countries by heart.
Are you actually an American? For someone using English as his native language you sure make a lot of grammatical mistakes. I find several in this comment alone. "equally as"? Seriously? That if anything is redundant.
@CarlMinez Listen man, I'm done with this discussion. I have much better things to do than educate you on the benefits of capitalism. If you want to live in some fantasy world where the poverty line is the only way of measuring the success of an economy then that is fine. The USA is far from perfect, but economically speaking we are the best in the world. "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Winston Churchill.
@CarlMinez Please stop trying to correct my grammar. Besides it being so cliche to attack grammar on the internet in an effort to defend a losing argument, I stopped paying attention to the grammatical errors in your mind-numbing comments long ago.
I could get into the fact the poverty line does not reflect any sort of aid received from the govt or other private charities which you despise so much. I could repeat again that the USA have easiest movement between social classes in the world.
I think you are living in a protecting bubble of ignorance. Its just too sad that you arent alone. Obviously things are changing but if you fail to keep up with the progressive world you will eventually perish.
@CarlMinez I will argue the fundamentals of the free market any day. however i will not argue free market vs. socialism. history speaks for itself. Read a book.
I think youre confusing socialism with communism. I would recommend you to avoid this kind of arguing in the future. Because it would indeed be sad if this is what you do best.
But this far youve managed to avoid the question. Im advocating social reforms. My argument is your problems with poverty - problems such a rich country have no excuse to be suffering from.
So one, does it bother you that almost a fifth of your population lacks the basic in human needs? I assume you are somewhat of a republican and republicans arent exactly known for their solidarity. But lets say you do care; what would you suggest would be a better solution to these problems?
@CarlMinez But to be quite honest I don't give a damn about your recommendations for this country. This countries economy was founded on sound economic which have been proven to work for the past several hundred years. The governments move towards socialized healthcare goes against every one of those principals, and will only hurt in the long-run. Do you know how big our national debt is? Probably not, but you are not expected to because you do not live here. We do expect our president to know.
@CarlMinez But his recent passage of this bill as well as numerous massive bailouts have shown that the american people that he cares nothing about the economic stability of this nation. This bill was passed with a big heart but no brain. The overflow of people into the healthcare system will not only destroy the health insurance industry, but will overload an already crowded healthcare system. This will not be a mixed health insurance system, health insurers CANNOT compete with the govt.
@CarlMinez Sweden can do whatever the hell it wants to. I could not care less. The fact of the matter is that the problems in the U.S.A can be solved in much better ways than switching to some sort of archaic socialistic welfare state. The amount of socialism may be different, but the principals are the same. It is not the governments job to decide that i have to take care of myself and my neighbor who doesn't even work. Exploitation of this system is imminent, and the consequences assured.
@CarlMinez Socialism may seem like it works at first but socialism has not ever, and will not ever succeed in the long term because it is based off of faulty principles. When your marginal gains are not increasing any more by working harder than other people then you will not have any incentive to work harder. No one will be a doctor if they can be a garbage man and receive the same social benefits. People will not work hard unless their benefits are directly related to their work. Go to school.
Its been working pretty good in my country since the 1930s. There are plenty of other examples. Take a look at France or the rest of Scandinavia. I mean obviously the European welfare model is working better than your exclusively capitalistic system. What you need is a healthy mix between a free market and socialistic standards.
Are you gonna take that? Amen.
BrentBuchholz 3 months ago
eye opening shit keep up the good work
hectecolo0ogick 4 months ago
Gosh, you are able to say these things without steam coming out of your ears.
I admire that.
Thanks.
Caroleeena 6 months ago 7
I dont like those danmn republicans. What have they done but critisize Obama. Saying stupid shit like they only can such as obama is not a US citizen. He releases his birth certificate and they still bitchin about it. They are a bunch of narrow minded rednecks and racist. They cut 38 billion from the budget. I dont have a problem with cut backs but why does it have to be social programs that help the poor and disadvantaged? These fukin republicans are not christians they are hypocrites.
veeseee128 9 months ago 9
@veeseee128 hey! -I know you, you're that ignorant hunk of flying twisty shit pouring forth from my ass like a peanut coated brown geyser...liberals by definition are the most close minded hypocrites to grace the planet are akin to small children taking a fit...you need a time out you blind bitch.
ps -you spelled "fucking" incorrectly you retarded cunt
MightySaturn5 4 months ago
@MightySaturn5 Obvious troll is obvious.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 ...a wonderful reply you overwhelmed little bitch
MightySaturn5 4 months ago
@MightySaturn5 Just what a troll would say.
yerk3 4 months ago
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MightySaturn5 4 months ago
Another great vlog, you bring great examples and comparison to your arguments.
socialization1 10 months ago
tahts politics for you both sides are wrong in so many ways and you cant choose a middle right now cause it doesnt exist cause when you choose the middle you have no friends
matshadwhite 1 year ago
@matshadwhite Socially one may be liberal and the other conservative, but economically the only difference is that one is slightly more pro market and the other leans slightly more towards social democracy. Instead of looking for a middle ground, it might be best to look elsewhere for political inspiration!
Schniddo 1 year ago
@Schniddo Which would essentially be a vote for Perry or Huntsman. Third parties do not work, they never have, they never will.
yerk3 4 months ago
Keep speaking the truth - the haters are getting louder in the USA! You are not dissenting - you just speak truth! Thanks...............
Multi1628 1 year ago
THANK YOU. I agree completely.
maybeilljoincia 1 year ago
And I suppose your plan for "reaching consensus" is to make random ad-hominem attacks on people who dissent from your ideological camp. It looks like the rest of your ideologically-minded friends are onto the same idea.
Well, the "progressives"got their way - and two years on the economy is in a shambles, the deficit is skyrocketing, and anyone who complains about it is branded as a Right-wing neo-Nazi racist loonie.
Yes you did. Now try to convince me you lot aren't ethically bankrupt.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel And exactly what has Obama been able to do to fix the economy and the rest of the BUSH administration's fuck ups that hasn't been obstructed by the republicans? Please go back to watching Glenn Beck like the rest of the drones who need media messiahs to do all their thinking for them.
MoonmanCometh 1 year ago
@MoonmanCometh Might I quote Richard Santelli? STOP SPENDING.
As for "Bush's fuckups", I don't see anything to distinguish Obama's policies from those of Bush, outside of pushing for a kleptocratic takeover of the health care industry. Sounds more like just some more BDS crapola to me.
Maybe if you stopped reading ZMag and listening to sycophantic idiots like Jon Stewart, we could have an intelligent conversation.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel You will be happy as soon as Fox News tell you the economy is getting better...you fail at life!
weepulization 11 months ago
@weepulization Or I can think for myself, and you're just another thick-headed asshole that gets his talking points from the Leftist elite.
Depends on your viewpoint, dunnit.
DrCruel 11 months ago
@DrCruel LOL "Leftist Elite?" It takes a lot of spin to turn the son of a single mother who worked tirelessly for the betterment of his community before going into politics into an "elitist," but some rich dude who wants to hang the poor out to dry and parcel the country out to his rich friends is a principled man of the people. What exactly is "elitist" about programs that help the poor and working class?
yerk3 4 months ago
@DrCruel Yeah, so the best way to deal with the budget deficit is to further wreck the economy by making sure that the poor continue to live hand to mouth while the rich take their money out of the country. Great. I suppose your answer to a house fire involves matches and a can of hair spray.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 Let me get this straight. Your assertion is that to rein in federal spending amounts to making the poor starve and making the rich send their money overseas? Since when did pork barrel spending suddenly become an antedote for class inequality?
Have you ever worked in DC? Have you any idea how much waste and corruption there is in the federal system? I saw it first hand.
Go look at an employee parking lot at a federal office. You'll get a good idea where most of that money's going.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel Since the services the Republicans and libertarians want to cut mainly benefit the poor, then yes, the poor would starve. Nobody needs to make the rich send their money over seas, they do that of their own volition. Offshore bank accounts are very convenient when you have a lot of money and hate questions. What would you define as "pork barrel spending?" Teachers' meager salaries? Roads? Public schools? Do you think a private corporation would be any less corrupt?
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 One corporation would be as corrupt. Many competing corporations would be much less so.
Teachers do not make "meager salaries" in the public school system, and there are lines of new hopefuls looking for such plum jobs. I graduated from a teacher's college, and am quite familiar with the public school industry. There's nothing "meager" about the money involved.
If you demonize business, you will have less of it. How then will you pay for all these government employees and programs?
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel Corporations don't even have to pretend to have anyone's interests at heart. Anything that didn't generate massive profits would be shut down. Say goodbye to public schools, or if they do exist, their purpose would be to make sure that everyone knew just enough to buy their products. Say goodbye to roads and bridges. If anyone became destitute, they would be left to starve, because how would helping poor people turn a profit?
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 I'd be happy to say goodbye to public schools, at least in the inner cities. I've had to tutor too many kids from such schools - kids that should have had the opportunity to go to better private schools or charters.
Why do we need a public school monopoly anyway? We have a mix of public and private colleges, and students can choose which one they want to attend. What makes elementary and secondary education so different?
As for the poor, why didn't they starve before welfare?
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel And how would these inner city kids have paid for private schools? With manna from heaven? Have you noticed something about private colleges? Mainly the fact that they are insanely expensive, not everyone can afford to go to them, and those that do end up in debt until they're 40? So you want to extend that to elementary and middle school? Brilliant! Look forward to stories about people selling their organs to pay off debts from 3rd grade.
yerk3 4 months ago
@DrCruel Of course, a more likely outcome is that they wouldn't be able to go at all, and literacy will once again be the province of the upper classes only. What you are proposing is therefore a return to the days of feudalism, where only the aristocrats could read and everyone else was an illiterate serf.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 When the average per pupil expendiature on public schools exceeds the tuition for private schools? What are you talking about?
We have private colleges and universities, and we have Pell Grants to help student pay for them. Why not have a voucher system, where elementary and secondary students can go to any institution of learning they qualify for? How is it that allowing poor, intelligent kids to attend private rather than public schools at government expense will lead to feudalism?
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel Where are you getting your statistics? Everything you have been saying here has the reek of bullshit about it. Pell grants are nowhere near as easy to get as you are suggesting. Public vouchers for education would essentially be public education, so why not cut out the middle man and reform the public school system in stead of overhauling it for something that sounds good from a distance to unrealistic libertarians.
yerk3 4 months ago 2
@yerk3 I used a number of sites, but you can simply check teacherportal. It's where a prospective teacher might go to find out which states offer the highest salaries.
Public vouchers for education would allow students and parents to choose the school they wanted, rather than be forced into one based on residency credentials. The public school unions are dead set against the idea, because it breaks up their monopolistic control over their very profitable public school industry.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel Your assertions about public school teachers bear no resemblance to the truth. Teachers' salaries are notoriously low, this is common knowledge. I doubt that you have ever worked at a public school, despite what you may say, because what you are saying contradicts the testimony of every teacher I have heard from. I do not demonize business, I just think they should have to play by the rules, don't have anybody's interests at heart but the CEO's, and need strong oversight.
yerk3 4 months ago
@yerk3 It's not simply my assertion - it's a fact. Teacher salaries in the US average in excess of $40,000 a year. Benefits and pension plans boost this even further. Might I remind also, that teachers make this over a nine month span - they get three months off each year.
Go talk to some private school teachers before you start calling me a liar. Better yet, do some of your own research instead of depending on unionized public school teachers for your info. It isn't exactly hard to do.
DrCruel 4 months ago
IDT someone who casually calls Vietnamese people 'gooks' really cares too much about diplomacy
Republican voters are masochists
bowlingfordisco 1 year ago
Lol! Nice!
milackk7 1 year ago
Vote Republican.
BushChenney08 1 year ago
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Don't kid yourself about large corporations.
They have the power and the resource s of small governments (Exxon/Mobil is the largest private/public organization in world history).
The only thing that stands in their way is the public/social rule of law.
tfustudios 1 year ago
Don't kid yourself about large corporations.
They have the power and the resource s of small governments (Exxon/Mobil is the largest private/public organization in world history).
The only thing that stands in their way is the public/social rule of law.
tfustudios 1 year ago
Believe me the rest of the civilised world is looking on at America's utter panic at the healthcare issue and wondering what on earth the fuss is about. We all have public healthcare, have done for years, think it's pretty good actually. Being able to go to the hospital for free is a right I was born with and its what I expect as a citizen of my country.
America scares us a little, out here on the edges, due to being so huge and so powerful and sometimes, so damn backwards.
Jumjumcider 1 year ago
I am glad I found your videos brother. Preach!
ChiliDcomedy 1 year ago
shut.up.you.ignorant.liberal.
4eva5000 1 year ago
@4eva5000 That swooshing sound you heard was the point flying over your head.
ryuuseicha 1 year ago
@ryuuseicha LOL! i had a good laugh at that :D nice
4eva5000 1 year ago
full of win!
stigander 1 year ago
Liked you til I saw this one. Obama's pic should be next to definition of "snarkiness." Get some objectivity & see his passive-aggressive haughtiness & condescension. By the way, being a "Community Organizer" PSHAW- I suppose we should look at what is now a living adjective called CHICAGO, the perfectly organized community. Where homeless vagrants actually threaten tourist & follow them into restaurants. mass shootings occur- all that "organizing" Obama did, no good.
QueenZelma 1 year ago
@QueenZelma Criticising Palin for her remarks /= endorsing Obama. And being a community organiser is a noble thing, and does a lot of good. Improvement /= making everything perfect - Obama's not the messiah, how was he going to solve all Chicago's homelessness and crime at a stroke?
Lokifan13 1 year ago
@QueenZelma 1 man can't change everyone's mind on the proper way to act. Anyone can do all they can to help a community but not everyone will listen.
NerdstatuZ 1 year ago
it funny how i see these comments abput Obama this and that do you think the damn GOP would of gotten us out of this mess the mess that they couldve fix by um idk paying their damn bills not make tax cuts than going to war. war cost money come on lets be real
livinfree18 2 years ago 5
The "mess" is massive amounts of loans made to people who had no hope to pay them back.. and the reselling of these loans and their securitization and subsequent infection of the entire money system.. fueled by Left wing social policy, an out of control Fed, an incompetent GOP, and dishonest loaners and loanees (is that a word?)
VinceP1974 2 years ago
the giant fucking mess is the Govts laughable attempt to "fix" the problems they caused.
VinceP1974 2 years ago
@VinceP1974
Thing is you left out one other BIG factor that led to the mess.
Those banks making those loans were making big money doing so. They werent' doing what they were doing because some liberals cried about poor people.
It was because they could make money screwing over the gullible and suddenly found they built a house of cards.
Not hard to get. Some people screw others weaker then them and end up screwing themselves in the end.
booley 1 year ago
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You tend to make some good points but your logic in general is severely flawed. You have fallen into the same trap as most people who lean towards the left. The idea that something is "right" because that is the way you think it should be. Entitlement is the cancer that eats away at this country and community organizations spread that cancer like butter. Making people feel as if they are owed some sort of societal debt, just because they exist. Utter nonsense.
thiswickedearth 2 years ago
@thiswickedearth - You were 100% correct in your comment regarding entitlement and people feeling that society "owes" them something...I believe in helping people that are truly in need, but it's like the old saying,"Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he can eat for life."
SuperYankeegal 1 year ago
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Lol how do you think messiah Obama is doing one year after this video was made. I love watching these old pro Obama videos where many Obama supporters where tricked by an expensive election campaigns to actually think that Obama will do everything that he promised.
DOOM1337 2 years ago
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Wow, we are so better off with Obama. You voted for him obviously, not me. We are still at war, in debt more then we've ever been and unemployment is rising. It's dopes like this guy who are what's wrong with America.
Diabolik771 2 years ago
THey are not raising the costs the costs are getting passed on to everyone who pays because of the illegal immigrants who already get free health care and the poor who like going to the doctor for socializing with a doctor or nurse. If you want rationed care go to the UK.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
why do all republicans like little boys ?
cartonhead 2 years ago
bonus points for Triumph the Insult Dog reference.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
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I like Palin! She takes on big business unlike OBama who works for and with them.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
well with your screen name we know pretty much where you're coming from, and what we can expect from your comments.
Remind me which side of the health care debate is shielding the health insurance industry from any meaningful reform or competition?
What was that? Grassley and the GOP? Couldn't quite hear you.
And no I'm not happy about Obama promises to Big Pharma. But how about you be "Fair and Balanced."
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
Big pharma has a 17-20 percent profit margin. Big insurance has an average of 3 percent. Who did he take care of and who does he want to socialize? Do you really think OBama gives a crap about you or do you think the truth that he got bought off by the richer and will let his corrupt buddies take over the health care industry?
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
3 percent? Last I heard quoted, people were saying the overhead for administrative salaries and expenses was like 3 percent for Medicare compared to like 14 percent for the insurance industry. If you found 3 percent somewhere I'm sure all the major news outlets would love to get a look at it, because that's not what their reporters are reporting.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
Yes Im sure other news outlets will report facts about Obama that do not go to his benifit. You know like they have so far. (thats sarcasm).
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
You still have not levelled a credible argument of why we should not rein in an industry that raises premiums 4 times the growth of wages, and when people need coverage the most they get dropped. You can dislike Obama all you want and you clearly do, but despite what you want, Obama isn't the topic, reform of health care is. There's one side of the aisle that is overall trying to reform things, and the other side overall is doing everything they can do to block reform. It is hard to justify.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
I'll say it again. the profit margins for insurance companies 3 % big pharma 17-20%. Big pharma bought OBama off, and he wants to take over insurance so he can give his fellow corrupt friends more money and power.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
by saying it again, you are again trying to say that Obama is the problem and not the health insurance industry ;)
Profit margin which you love to cite is the amount of profit after all salaries and expenses are paid. What it doesn't reflect is that no one in any agency overseeing any public option is going to be making $124 million a year like the CEOs of some of these insurance companies. Profits are what go to shareholders...not this stuff.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
By saying it again I reiterated the point that they are not the problem. Socializing it will make a huge problem. If you want lower rates then pass Tort reform. Quit giving illegal and legal immigrants free health care. Quit letting people with free health care eat what ever the hell they want. Let the smokers and fat people pay their share. Right now government regulations do not allow insurance to bill them beyond 10 percent from the healthy counterparts.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
@TheSocialistObama
While I respect your opinion I cant else but differ. It really isn’t that simple. Central in your logics is the idea of one individual’s aptitude to take care of himself. Either that then the person in question doesn’t deserve help. This theory is implanted deep into the American conservative mentality but it is absolutely not founded.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@TheSocialistObama
The truth of the matter is that 20 percent of all Americans live under the poverty line. And this doesn’t even include those “illegal immigrants”. I might also add that over 45 million, yeah that’s right, 45 million Americans don’t even have any health insurance.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
Your "exquisite" universal healthcare only leads to a poorer quality and rationing of care. And because of budget constraints, a lot of times bureaucrats will defund certain medical services offered to patients.
As far as poverty, we have welfare programs. You know, those great society programs established to abolish poverty, but still hasn't! Yea, we have more people on welfare now than we did in 1964. I'm sure you knew that right ;)
Later dumbass.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
You are wrong in so many ways I dont know what to correct first.
Im going to simplify it. Universal healthcare has been proven, not only sustainable, but beneficial (both when it comes to health insurance and in terms of the pharmaceutical industry) in most democratic countries in Europe and even in your area, Cuba and Canada. And such, I have no reason to believe that universal healthcare wouldn’t work in the US. Why wouldnt it?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Now, regarding the poverty raise during the last era in American history. I found it funny that you referred to this as an argument seeing as, once again, capitalism is to be blamed for this. In fact the gap between the socioeconomic classes in the United States is widening drastically and there are millions of people going hungry in this very same working for less than minimum wage and hardly getting by.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
So what I want to hear from you, rather than insults and unfounded quarrels, is how you can defend a system that creates such economical inequality?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
How do you think the state pays for all these gov services? Surely, you must know that the gov doesn't generate wealth, right? The economic system in the USA isn't a laissez faire capitalist economic system. It's a mixed market, quasi socialistic & capitalistic at the same time. The private sector is what brings revenue to the public treasury to help pay for your welfare state. So how is captalism fair? It's fair enough to let you sit on your ass collecting that welfare check.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Christ! Do you even read my comments? Or are you just extremely unintelligent? Because ive answered these questions over and over again.
The government will get money from tax payers. Raise the taxes and the government will be able to provide universal non-profit health care. And this every single citizen in america can contribute and make the US into a welfare state. Secondly, yes this system works. It is being used all over the world.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Lastly, a free market is one thing. Socialized healthcare is another thing. All democratic countries needs to find a good mix between capitalism and socialism. America has failed to do this and you got too much "capitalism". The evidence is your enormous poverty.
What exactly is it that you dont understand?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
Shut the fuck up. You don't know shit. Free market? There is no such thing as a free market. There is intervention, rules, and regulations made by congress. Hence why in article 1, under the commerce clause, congress can regulate interstate and intrastate commerce. Too much capitalism? WTF? Are you brain dead or were you born stupid? We have medical coverage for our poor. It's called Medicaid moron.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
I see you are trying to hide your lack of arguments behind insults. If you are really interesting in the damage of capitalism id suggest you read this
h t t p : / / w w w . l e v y i n s t i t u t e . o r g / p u b s / w p _ 5 0 2 . p d f
. If you want to know more about the LACK of medical coverage "for the poor" then you want how to go far in your research. That would be a widely known fact.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
Lack of medical coverage for the poor? Medicaid is ran by the feds ie bureaucrats. You're criticizing the very socialist program that lacks inadequate care to the poor?You're adamantly an advocate of ;)
There are countries for you to move to if you want a true socialist economy. Cuba is a great spot for people like yourself. You can live in a shack and everyone is economically equal. Except for the political class, because we all know that your hero's are the exemption. Later fuck head
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
I’m not advocating anything comparable to the joke widely known as Medicaid or Medicare. Im am speaking of an actual, real universal healthcare system which is a non-profitable healthcare system entirely founded by the state. Do you see the difference?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
You're absolutely right! And the only way the state can save money is by cutting off your life support :)
Later
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
No the quality of healthcare in the US wont decrease as the Government will pay for the services using their reserves of tax money. Simply – you pay so the government can supply “the poor” with free healthcare.
According to the Institute of Medicine is the US the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage. I think its obvious that Medicare isnt enough when the lack of access to health care is already a crisis in America.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@TheSocialistObama
This is not human beings that deserve being out health care and insurance But convincing yourself that it is might deliberate you from the burden of responsibility. . These are poor people, unlucky enough to be born in poor families or in poor neighborhoods and if you come from the wrong place its practically impossible to get a decent job in the US. It’s the government and the remaining populations responsibility to take care of these folks and thus; socialism.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
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Democrats call republicans haters when they are sexists bastards.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
I voted for Obama too.
Ecksntrick8 2 years ago
ONE idiot on a anti-republican page. Or a pussy.
Ecksntrick8 2 years ago
Considering how the media attacked Palin, i dont think you have much of a right to accuse the GOP of going on TV and "spitting" on peoples faces.
Also, before you start your hatin', realize I hate McCain and truly believe there is no diff between him and Obama, except it is easier for Obama to brainwash the black population.
Think I'm full of it? Search "i pledge obama" on youtube and go balls out.
boyblue737 2 years ago
i really think that the rublicans are the ones that is dividing up this country in a very bad way . between race and class. i don't like any of the parties mainly the repubicans just for that one fact. no one on the right could never see how george w. bush and other republicans have damaged this country., and for the democrats they are weak on alot of issues. but if i had to choose i would be the democrats by a long shot. i am an indenpendent and i have see both parties damage this country.
unelmitchell 2 years ago
also boyblue737 you sound like a racist !!!
unelmitchell 2 years ago
I sincerely hope you are joking about the racist comment, otherwise you are a liberal fool who thinks they can make anyone look bad just by spouting the "R" word. Dont like obama? RACIST! Dont like healtcare? RACIST! Dont like abortion? RACIST! Dont like forcing electric cars on the population? RACIST! Dont like the stimulus bills? RACIST! Calling a liberal a racist? RACIST! .....I do not know a single black person that likes obama because of his policies, only for his skin color. U go 2 hell.
boyblue737 2 years ago
you also sound like a babeling fool you don't have nothing to back up anything you are saying. i really think that you should listen to some of the comments that others have wrote to you. because it seen like you don't know anything. that is all !!!
unelmitchell 2 years ago
Oh yeah, and after reading your other comments i see taht you are not joking, that you are calling everyone and their mother racist. You are obviously a fool that keeps using the same cop-out. Reply with whatever silly stupid moronic liberal racist accusations you want, you are not worth any more of my time.
boyblue737 2 years ago
that come to show you shit head that you can't even fucking read !!! i am a indenpendent !!! man you republicans all a retarts !!! and the dems are no better at time to.
unelmitchell 2 years ago
You sound like an inbred Racist, you should go drink some beers, watch nascar, and go to bed. Try and sleep it off there, Klan man.
boyblue737 2 years ago
by the sound of it you have beat me to it. ok try something new go have a taff pull with Tom Delay and jack abramoff(aka Jack Off) or better yet if you are really into role playing want you play brokeback mountain with that colon cowboy don imus. he have the hat for the job. yeppee ki yay don imus will turn you gay. don't tell me you even beat don imus to that to ???
unelmitchell 2 years ago
I drink wine, and can't stand watching cars do laps. But it is funny to see you pull some steriotypes out. And by funny I mean hipocritical. Get a dictionary if you don't know what that word means.
TheSocialistObama 2 years ago
Well, im not sure if you were talking to me or not, but i was only talking to Unel there, and i was using his own weapons against him, using baseless stereotyping. Anyways, if you were talking to me, it's spelled "hypocritical." I wanted to use your dictionary comment right back at you, but i like alot of your other comments so i wont. And if you want to rag my capitalization and grammar, just know im only lazy, not illiterate.
boyblue737 2 years ago
I hope your not backing that shit party on the right. If your talking shit u might as well mention the bullshit GOP. Fuck political parties!! That's how I feel and if you want back these fools your not part of the solution or the problem, Your part of the equation in a program and needs to be deleted for being biased. Bitch. And you should probably use the spell check so you can see "stereotypes" is spelled without an i. Why cant we see that HUGE Corporations have taken over America.
MorrisBrown94 2 years ago
THIS IS SO FUNNY AND TRUE!
deefirst 2 years ago
u my frieend should go "f" a treeand kill an unborn baby u damn liberal thats why theres so many fags in these beautifull cuontry am elephant all way baby i told everybody that would listen that obama sucks big "d" the bastaer cant talk with out somebody having there hand up hes ass next time vote republican and white dont change color maybe mexican asian cant drive a car i dont think they can handle a country thats its peace
XXLILxxJOKERXX 2 years ago
you racists bastard, this country is based on freedom, i may be against you on this but don't think i'm a liberal, i hate them too anyone that makes up they're mind before they hear the issue is the bigest idiot ever. like most of our goverment.
echo2x8 2 years ago
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His community organizing meant teaching Acorn thug tactics! He got elected with his WORDS! NOT his actions OR experience!
He has broken every promise he made. Turned A bad economy into a disaster. He's a punk!
People are turning on him so fast now, he thinks it's a Nazi conspiracy.
Some f-ing leader! What a tool !
HYDRASHOQ 2 years ago
This guy is an assclown...
post105 2 years ago
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Snarky HATER??
How about Obama's good friend's Rahm, or Nazi Pelosi or Rev. Wright???
This IS the GREATEST country in the whole.
You are an TYPICAL Obamabot, with SHIT for BRAINS!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
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Stick to making fun of rappers buddy. Your political views are about as one-sided and misinformed as the politicians you make fun of. I enjoy your videos, but this one was not a good look for you.
mixtimp555 2 years ago
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unelmitchell 2 years ago
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lol,I guess he's as black as Obama.
bucs2921 2 years ago
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unelmitchell 2 years ago
if he's as black as Obama you must be as stupid as George bush. republicans always talking about communism. always calling president obama plan's socialism. an the republicans have to stop with there racism and stop running this country like hitler's Nazism. the republicans shouldn't believe in ism's but instead believe in themselfs. they didnt learn there lession during the elections. i guess that mankes me the walrus.
unelmitchell 2 years ago
LOL..
Cant understand a thing you wrote.
Obviously you are an Obama voter, judging by how incoherent you are..
Enjoy the "change", dummy.
bucs2921 2 years ago
i thought u wer obama at fist until i looked up at the screen
jnookdacrook 2 years ago
WOW...really? I think you just proved the point of just about every one of his videos.
vertabraker 2 years ago 4
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I dont get it...He is white, yet I guess hes trying to act black?
Looks a little old to be posing as a wigger, receding hairline and all.
bucs2921 2 years ago
So to act white you need to be racist? Or to act straight you gotta be homophobic?
vertabraker 2 years ago
you are an ass, bucs2921. he is black.
cmtingling 2 years ago
He's mixed race, and how is he 'trying to act black'?
Also, excellent post as ever. I was looking for the 'Ten Other Things Martin Luther King' vlog, and ended up browsing.
Lokifan13 2 years ago
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I fear President Obama is misleading the American people down the path to Socialism. Americans are not up to speed about what's at stake, they just hear "free lunch" and say why not? The Administration is compiling an enemies list, Obama does not care about the economy, just the issues he has waited to have; A Democratic House, Senate & Executive Branch of Gov. Don't get on the MOBama hit list. Achtung Citizen. Your mind is the enemy. Knowledge is destructive. Obedience is power
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All I hear from republicans:Liberal media! squak squak Bill Ayers! squak squak Birth certificate! squak squak Socialism! squak squak Obama's Waterloo! squak squak I had an affair! squak squak Obama's a racist! squak squak No No No! squack squak I like torture, guns and Jesus! squak squak The surge worked! squak squak The stimulis faild! squak squak Palin is smart, really she is I swear! squak squak Rush told me to! squak squak He said 57 states so he's as dumb as Bush! squak squak
IndiMusicLover 2 years ago
Wow. This is the third video of yours I've seen (a friend linked me to your "How to tell someone they're a racist" video and then I clicked on "No homo"), and just like with the previous two, you're very insightful. Subscribed!
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Hagadarga darg darg.
shaneduarte 2 years ago
Hey republicans...wake up!
Military spending is socialism with good PR.
tfustudios 2 years ago 9
@tfustudios
Very good! Surely, you're educated to know that government gets its' money from the private sector?
You know what else is funny? You probably think that taxing the rich in America is a good thing! What are you going to do when the rich decide to move out of this country? Why do you think north eastern states are having problems in generating revenue for their public treasury?
Socialism doesn't work and Greece is living proof that socialism fails.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Absolutley. I pay the taxes that keep the government running.And trust, I pay them every year.
But you know what else if funny?
You're probably one of those 'Free Market/anti-tax' folks who are suggesting we privatize the police/fir dept, right? Privatize everything?
Am I right, or am I making broad lame assumptions like the one's you'd listed.
By the way, the 'rich' have been threatening to leave the US for 200 years, now.
tfustudios 1 year ago
@tfustudios
We don't have a "laissez faire economy." It's called a "mixed market!"
Yes, the rich are leaving in droves. Please, dont be one of those hypocrites who say, "I hate that jobs are outsource, but I shop at walmart."
Socialism and protectionism has given us our national deficit and our trade deficit. Am I suppose to be thankful?
The "rich" have threatened to leave the USA for 200 years? The "rich" have been in the "Americas" since at least the 15th century.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Ok, you're all over the place here, but I'll be direct:
Do you believe in public works? Tax dollars spent to fix roads, pay police?
And how has protectionism given us a trade deficit ? We buy more than we sell overseas. That's hardly protectionism.
But, you sound richly educated on the subject, so, explain.
tfustudios 1 year ago
Protectionism has forced private enterprise out of business or overseas. Very few countries buy from us.
What about prolonging human life? Advance technology? Better living conditions. Innovations come from the private sector, not public.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Was NAFTA protectionism? That enabled auto and electronics makers to open plants in Mexico.
How about GATT? Protectionism?
The internet, alternet? Wireless technology?
Government research my friend.
tfustudios 1 year ago
@tfustudios
Gov research? What's your point? Wireless communication was chartered by private companies like IBM and Nokia. Ingenuity and innovations keeps getting better and better because of competition. Companies invest their capital into research and development. IBM developed the first touch screen, Apple perfected GUI interface & mp3, the first computer game was invented by Microsoft. Gov revenue comes from corporations; in which, corporations levy those taxes to the consumer. Later
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
My point is, in response to :'Better living conditions. Innovations come from the private sector, not public.'
Lame blanket statements that are parroting what you've heard on AM radio or some cable channel. Most US post war innovations 'plastic, jet engines and yes wireless technology (look it up)' came from wholly or partly funded with public funds.
Yes, public. Taxpayer money. My money.
Your simplistic, lame, Tea Party rants can't change that fact!
tfustudios 1 year ago
@tfustudios
If capitalism created the american poverty and contrast between reach and poor, then socialistic reforms, such as higher taxes, free health care and so forth, might very well be the answer.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
That was the dumbest answer I have read in my entire life. We've had socialist reforms for a long time my ignorant friend. How come gov programs hasn't eradicated poverty yet? The great society programs created by LBJ was designed to do away with poverty. Yet we have more people dependent now on gov than we did in 1964. All the trillions we've spent on welfare programs and we still have impoverished communities? Come on.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
You ... youre joking right?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
How can you possibly define that as socialistic reforms? I live in a country where I pay about half of my earned income in national and local taxes. Now that’s socialistic. And I live in a welfare state with free health care and an almost none existing poverty. You live in a country where almost 20 percent of all Americans live under the poverty line (hence really fucking poor). And 45 million Americans don’t even have any health insurance.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
Look up the definition for socialism dumb fuck.
Really, what country do you live in? You day your country has very little poverty? Lol
By the way, there is no such thing as "free healthcare."
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
The definition for socialism? If you mean the definition of socialism then I can explain it to you.
Socialism is the basically the idea of public ownership or common ownership. I think you’ve confused socialism with communism which is something entirely different. For example, a socialized health care system is a health care system that is provided for everyone, regardless of personal economy, paid for by the state.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
Like what they have in England, France, the Scandinavians. In fact I think most democratic country has a universal health care system except the USA. And thus, a socialistic reform in America would be to socialize the health care or raise the taxes. Hence im very well aware of the definition of socialism.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
I live in Sweden, a Scandinavian country. If you would know anything about any other country than America (which you have proven to know very little about) you would know that Europe, especially the Scandinavian countries, are infamous for their extensive welfare system.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez
Jag vet ingenting om Sverige. Jag slår vad om att du bara full av skit.
Publicpolicymajor 1 year ago
@Publicpolicymajor
. And yet you ignorant, conservative assholes have the nerve to whine about taxes and your unfounded fear of the totally irrelevant “communism”. It staggers the mind.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez no we shouldn't complain about taxes we should all just do whatever the government thinks we should do and pay whatever the government thinks we should pay because that is how we became a country in the first place right?
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
I think you can live with higher taxes. See it as a "take from the rich - give to the poor" system. Its already practiced all around the world so why would american be any different? You tell me that.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez I think you can live with working for your money instead of taking my hard earned dollars. This is america. The system is that you work hard and you make money for doing so. That is the american dream. Not the government taking your money and giving it to people who they think need it. The whole incentive for working hard is to make money. If you take away that incentive people will not work hard and our economy falls apart. Please educate yourself before ever responding to me again.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Are you telling ME to educate myself? I am obviously more knowledgeable about your own country that you are which is just sad. And its all because of your primitive, egoistic social darwinism. But perhaps the fact that 17 percent of your population are living and dying under the poverty line doesnt bother you? Maybe you dont mind living in the worlds most economically unequal democracy in the world? Maybe you are just as dumb as the american stereotype suggests.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Actually, jackass, it is called comprehension of how a free market economy works. Yes I am telling you to educate yourself because you obviously don't know anything about free markets. Like I said, the USA have the easiest ease of movement through classes than any other country in the world. Government interference only hinders this. It is not primitive. Charity is each individuals decision and i support it. But the US government as it is designed has no right to tell me i have to.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Of course I know that a free market is. I live in Sweden and we have a free market. The thing you have that we dont is massive problems with poverty and economy. Infact, we ranks first in the world in The Economist's Democracy Index and seventh in the United Nations' Human Development Index. And yet we are one of the most socialistic countries in the world.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Sweden has a free market? hahahahahahahahahah I rest my case. stay the hell out of my country
DMW0004 1 year ago
@CarlMinez "The worlds most unequal democracy in the world?" besides the idiotic redundancy in this sentence, the idea of "economic equality for all" is nothing more than "economic suffering for all" people are payed based on the societies need for their services. And as much you don't want to admit it, it is very possible to move from lower class to upper class in the USA. Much easier than any other country in the world. I will not take lessons on the free market from a socialist like yourself.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Okay, let me just get this straight. You are saying that the idea of the US as an semi-socialistic welfare state is unrealistic?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Regarding the "redundancy", as you so eloquently described, I think its rather obvious that its a careless mistake rather than an actual grammatical error. I think youre getting desperate.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Dont you understand that you are on the top? We are the privileged minority. Its our mandate to help those who are less fortunate. Believing that the million of americans that have no jobs or practically live on the street are poor because they deserve to be poor is the most staggering mentality I can imagine. But I guess convincing yourself that everyone can make it in your system with just a little bit of hard work is how you shield yourself from the truth.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinezThe USA also gives the most out of any country in the world in charity and global aid.Again,charity is not the governments job. You can do whatever you want to in whatever country you are from but this is the way the USA government was designed and it has worked pretty well up until now so please don't try force this socialism crap, which is literally exactly what you are describing, on us now.Socialism has failed time and time again because it gives people no incentive for hard work.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Why are people keep using the "charity" argument? Its completely unfounded. See my comments above.
Furthermore, no your system does not work pretty well. As mentioned you have a almost 20 percent poverty line. There are third world countries with better living standards. Your economy is crippled. The rest of the world thinks of you as the home of social injustice and you have the worst educational system of all industralised nations.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Haha I just read you said there are third world countries with better living standards than the U.S. You are a clown and you obviously no nothing about economics or common sense. The U.S. government was not designed to be your baby sitter and pay your bills that is socialism. And yes I meant Socialism which is an economic policy not communism which is a political policy, although both are equally as ill- fated.
DMW0004 1 year ago
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@DMW0004
"Haha I just read you said there are third world countries with better living standards than the U.S."
I love when people are defeated by their own arguments. There ARE third world countries with lower poverty. Chile with its approximately 15 percent poverty line is an example. I could probably mention more third world countries but of obvious reasons i dont know the economical program of all countries by heart.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@DMW0004
Are you actually an American? For someone using English as his native language you sure make a lot of grammatical mistakes. I find several in this comment alone. "equally as"? Seriously? That if anything is redundant.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Listen man, I'm done with this discussion. I have much better things to do than educate you on the benefits of capitalism. If you want to live in some fantasy world where the poverty line is the only way of measuring the success of an economy then that is fine. The USA is far from perfect, but economically speaking we are the best in the world. "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Winston Churchill.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Please stop trying to correct my grammar. Besides it being so cliche to attack grammar on the internet in an effort to defend a losing argument, I stopped paying attention to the grammatical errors in your mind-numbing comments long ago.
I could get into the fact the poverty line does not reflect any sort of aid received from the govt or other private charities which you despise so much. I could repeat again that the USA have easiest movement between social classes in the world.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
I think you are living in a protecting bubble of ignorance. Its just too sad that you arent alone. Obviously things are changing but if you fail to keep up with the progressive world you will eventually perish.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez I will argue the fundamentals of the free market any day. however i will not argue free market vs. socialism. history speaks for itself. Read a book.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
I think youre confusing socialism with communism. I would recommend you to avoid this kind of arguing in the future. Because it would indeed be sad if this is what you do best.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@DMW0004
But this far youve managed to avoid the question. Im advocating social reforms. My argument is your problems with poverty - problems such a rich country have no excuse to be suffering from.
So one, does it bother you that almost a fifth of your population lacks the basic in human needs? I assume you are somewhat of a republican and republicans arent exactly known for their solidarity. But lets say you do care; what would you suggest would be a better solution to these problems?
CarlMinez 1 year ago
@CarlMinez But to be quite honest I don't give a damn about your recommendations for this country. This countries economy was founded on sound economic which have been proven to work for the past several hundred years. The governments move towards socialized healthcare goes against every one of those principals, and will only hurt in the long-run. Do you know how big our national debt is? Probably not, but you are not expected to because you do not live here. We do expect our president to know.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@CarlMinez But his recent passage of this bill as well as numerous massive bailouts have shown that the american people that he cares nothing about the economic stability of this nation. This bill was passed with a big heart but no brain. The overflow of people into the healthcare system will not only destroy the health insurance industry, but will overload an already crowded healthcare system. This will not be a mixed health insurance system, health insurers CANNOT compete with the govt.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Sweden can do whatever the hell it wants to. I could not care less. The fact of the matter is that the problems in the U.S.A can be solved in much better ways than switching to some sort of archaic socialistic welfare state. The amount of socialism may be different, but the principals are the same. It is not the governments job to decide that i have to take care of myself and my neighbor who doesn't even work. Exploitation of this system is imminent, and the consequences assured.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@CarlMinez Socialism may seem like it works at first but socialism has not ever, and will not ever succeed in the long term because it is based off of faulty principles. When your marginal gains are not increasing any more by working harder than other people then you will not have any incentive to work harder. No one will be a doctor if they can be a garbage man and receive the same social benefits. People will not work hard unless their benefits are directly related to their work. Go to school.
DMW0004 1 year ago
@DMW0004
"socialism may seem like it works at first"
Its been working pretty good in my country since the 1930s. There are plenty of other examples. Take a look at France or the rest of Scandinavia. I mean obviously the European welfare model is working better than your exclusively capitalistic system. What you need is a healthy mix between a free market and socialistic standards.
CarlMinez 1 year ago
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