if he fire blasted, he would've koed skarm, at which point he could switch out, dd later, and then ko any of your pokemon with an outrage. you would have to rely on confusion or a speed tie with flygon to revenge kill it.
it's kind of awkward commenting on a year old video about a no longer relevant issue, but i happened to see this and you made your point about mence well. i really just wanted to say cool vid =)
@NailsOU Hi nails :D Actually with this team, that's impossible since everything on it can 1HKO a 75% health Salamence. Mence can't set up on anything except flygon-locked EQ, and I would rarely use EQ/Outrage until I eliminated all the resists for one or the other.
A fine example of how the "power of mence" is entirely up to who uses it and how. Mence is powerful, yes, but a simple sandstorm/whirlwind skarmory combo easily shut it down! And even if it was mixed or special, you still had infernape to clean up afterwards.
I'm personally happy to see Mence get booted though. I'm sick of seeing it on teams, and I'm sick of seeing people suck its proverbial dick. I hear its not doing that well in Ubers, LOL. Serves it right.
@origamimaster98 nice. way to prove how much of an idiot you are.
good day sir. gl being a bitchy idiot who whines over losing and cries "broken". it's funny how i'm not even close to the greatest battler ever and i've NEVER had an issue with mence.
you people are idiots. don't bother responding because i won't be saying anything back as it's pointless to converse with trash.
@GoldenValleyLegend -- I think that's reading into it a bit much (not to mention Heatran makes a happy home in any team, including more defensive ones). In any case, I think the situation is complicated enough to argue justifying either move, F-Blast or DD. It could simply be that DD was a desperation move, as if Skarmory stayed in (as it did) the battle would probably be already decided as my win (which was why I didn't try switching out Skarm). Ultimately, mence was in a lose-lose situation.
You may disagree with me but I felt that Mence was played poorly because of the choice to DD at that point in the game.
Now I understand the point of DDing as he expected a switch, but Fire Blast would've been the safer move having seen as much of your team as he did.
He knew Suicune was out so that piece of information alone tells that the chances of you having another fire-resist are greatly lowered. He also saw that you have a Skarm which shows the team is leaning towards defense so it
You might want to render these in a 4x3 aspect ratio (for instance, 640x480) instead of the 16x9 you seem to be doing now (or else stretch the video to fit), otherwise those of us who still use square screens end up with black strips on all four sides
Nice battle but this battle doesn't showcase if Mence truly is Uber or not. You can't get an actual read on if something is Uber or just very powerful in it's metagame if it is being used poorly.
I'm still on the fence about it being Uber or not and videos against poor players surely won't swing anyone's decision.
@GoldenValleyLegend-- First off, you can't get a read on whether Salamence is Uber or not from 1 battle no matter what-- this is more just a means of illustrating my own opinion, and whether you agree or not is up to you. 2nd, how was mence played poor? Either Fire Blast or DD, and you could be right or wrong. He picked wrong, but I had a good situation either way! Finally, if it IS Uber, it should do well regardless of the user's skill, like Garchomp or Latias. Mence takes some skill to use.
@DonovanFan2012 Chou = last name (actually from that last name you could discern I'm Chinese or Korean since it's Japanese pronunciation for the name Zhang), Toshio = a Japanese boy's name my Japanese mother gave me. So yeah, just from the user name you could discern I'm a guy, and that I'm Chinese (or Korean I guess), and now you know I'm half. lol
@DonovanFan2012 namw 1 person on shoddy battle that did not have water typer on their team. every one i fought on shoddy had at least 1 water. because water types are 20% of the pokedex
@httm241 Uh...what? Lol. I don't have a water type on my current team (HO Triple Fighting) but why did you ask me? (I hope you meant to ask someone else and you just misclicked ^_^)
@skittio ...While the fact you are using a set that existed BEFORE Mence actually became good decreases the potency of the vid, as Chou was reacting to the Gen IV sets he has just convinced me Mence is, in fact, OU material.
if he fire blasted, he would've koed skarm, at which point he could switch out, dd later, and then ko any of your pokemon with an outrage. you would have to rely on confusion or a speed tie with flygon to revenge kill it.
it's kind of awkward commenting on a year old video about a no longer relevant issue, but i happened to see this and you made your point about mence well. i really just wanted to say cool vid =)
NailsOU 3 months ago
@NailsOU Hi nails :D Actually with this team, that's impossible since everything on it can 1HKO a 75% health Salamence. Mence can't set up on anything except flygon-locked EQ, and I would rarely use EQ/Outrage until I eliminated all the resists for one or the other.
AvenueSU 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Water pokemon r mad ghey
shadowdraqon 9 months ago
a fucking weavile can take it down
joel6781 9 months ago
OMG I can LIEK TOTALLY kill salamence with my stab ICE BEAMZZ therefur Salamence is not UBerz. HUURRR DURR DURRR.
Neither can rayquaza, ray for OU?
italbello6t9 10 months ago
you can kill cune with a curselax:)
RiVa667 1 year ago
This is a great video. :D
Oosanbashi 1 year ago
You should be like king of smogon.....
subbing right now
jacktoto7497 1 year ago
THANK YOU! Salamence is so beneath uber its not even funny.
daveshn 1 year ago
A fine example of how the "power of mence" is entirely up to who uses it and how. Mence is powerful, yes, but a simple sandstorm/whirlwind skarmory combo easily shut it down! And even if it was mixed or special, you still had infernape to clean up afterwards.
I'm personally happy to see Mence get booted though. I'm sick of seeing it on teams, and I'm sick of seeing people suck its proverbial dick. I hear its not doing that well in Ubers, LOL. Serves it right.
Dragonite for live.
UltramanCronos 1 year ago
When they banned mence they didn't ban a broken Pokemon. They banned the next strongest thing. Just like they will ban the next strongest thing.
Let me ask people this. Was the mence game fun?
Yes. So why fuck with the metagame nobody was bitching about until 5 children decided that :
"OMG SALAMENCE IS BROK3N WE MUST PUT IT IN UBERIZ!1!1!1!one!1"
People on Smogon like Tay need to STFU
TheCheeseCrust 1 year ago
Congratulations, Salamence is now Uber LOOOOOOL
skittio 1 year ago
im a newbie and yet mence never gives me trouble
i find that mostly you just need to get it to use outrage and then switch in a steel like jirachi or scizor to revenge it
or better yet use ice shard
mattex1111 1 year ago
how do you record it so well?
teamSDF 1 year ago
mence isn't broken and smogon has a bunch of dicks in their mouths.
that is all. e.e
fucking pussies.
SoraHyuuga01 1 year ago 8
@SoraHyuuga01 nope salamence is cheap
origamimaster98 1 year ago
@origamimaster98 no johns.
SoraHyuuga01 1 year ago
@SoraHyuuga01 wut
origamimaster98 1 year ago
@origamimaster98 nice. way to prove how much of an idiot you are.
good day sir. gl being a bitchy idiot who whines over losing and cries "broken". it's funny how i'm not even close to the greatest battler ever and i've NEVER had an issue with mence.
you people are idiots. don't bother responding because i won't be saying anything back as it's pointless to converse with trash.
SoraHyuuga01 1 year ago 9
@SoraHyuuga01 cool
origamimaster98 1 year ago
good vid, chou
your voice sounds nothing like i imagined lol
effgeedoubleyou 1 year ago
Should have banded my Zeurel :( Lol
skittio 1 year ago
was fairly safe to assume Heatran was absent since most Tran belong on offensive teams.
It can also be argued that you staying in to Whirlwind was predictable, but then it becomes a big game of what if so that point is moot.
I do agree that 1 game cannot show that a poke is Uber or not though.
GoldenValleyLegend 1 year ago
@GoldenValleyLegend -- I think that's reading into it a bit much (not to mention Heatran makes a happy home in any team, including more defensive ones). In any case, I think the situation is complicated enough to argue justifying either move, F-Blast or DD. It could simply be that DD was a desperation move, as if Skarmory stayed in (as it did) the battle would probably be already decided as my win (which was why I didn't try switching out Skarm). Ultimately, mence was in a lose-lose situation.
ChouToshio 1 year ago
You may disagree with me but I felt that Mence was played poorly because of the choice to DD at that point in the game.
Now I understand the point of DDing as he expected a switch, but Fire Blast would've been the safer move having seen as much of your team as he did.
He knew Suicune was out so that piece of information alone tells that the chances of you having another fire-resist are greatly lowered. He also saw that you have a Skarm which shows the team is leaning towards defense so it
GoldenValleyLegend 1 year ago
This is with a Japanese emulator?
Zelrio28 1 year ago
So, pokemon beats pokemon with move in specific situation?
Also, I've been subbed to you for freaking ever and I think this and the last one are the first battles I've actually seen you post
doubleedgedw0mbat 1 year ago
Woah I got mentioned =o
You might want to render these in a 4x3 aspect ratio (for instance, 640x480) instead of the 16x9 you seem to be doing now (or else stretch the video to fit), otherwise those of us who still use square screens end up with black strips on all four sides
doubleedgedw0mbat 1 year ago
I'm glad I'm too lazy to clean up my subs, otherwise I still wouldn't be subbed to you =O Keep em coming =]
CaptainKishimoto 1 year ago
Nice battle but this battle doesn't showcase if Mence truly is Uber or not. You can't get an actual read on if something is Uber or just very powerful in it's metagame if it is being used poorly.
I'm still on the fence about it being Uber or not and videos against poor players surely won't swing anyone's decision.
GoldenValleyLegend 1 year ago
@GoldenValleyLegend-- First off, you can't get a read on whether Salamence is Uber or not from 1 battle no matter what-- this is more just a means of illustrating my own opinion, and whether you agree or not is up to you. 2nd, how was mence played poor? Either Fire Blast or DD, and you could be right or wrong. He picked wrong, but I had a good situation either way! Finally, if it IS Uber, it should do well regardless of the user's skill, like Garchomp or Latias. Mence takes some skill to use.
ChouToshio 1 year ago
@ChouToshio
Uber is the hardest tier by far as it is largely centralized and by far requires the most prediction so ubers do take a lot of skill to
jacktoto7497 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ChouToshio
Uber is the hardest tier by far as it is largely centralized and by far requires the most prediction so ubers do take a lot of skill to use
jacktoto7497 1 year ago
Whoa you're a guy o.O
DonovanFan2012 1 year ago
@DonovanFan2012 Chou = last name (actually from that last name you could discern I'm Chinese or Korean since it's Japanese pronunciation for the name Zhang), Toshio = a Japanese boy's name my Japanese mother gave me. So yeah, just from the user name you could discern I'm a guy, and that I'm Chinese (or Korean I guess), and now you know I'm half. lol
ChouToshio 1 year ago
@DonovanFan2012 namw 1 person on shoddy battle that did not have water typer on their team. every one i fought on shoddy had at least 1 water. because water types are 20% of the pokedex
httm241 1 year ago
@httm241 Uh...what? Lol. I don't have a water type on my current team (HO Triple Fighting) but why did you ask me? (I hope you meant to ask someone else and you just misclicked ^_^)
DonovanFan2012 1 year ago
One question chouto, how many speed does your suicune has?
skittio 1 year ago
Wait so are you truly pro-Uber or pro-OU? im too lazy to listen.
MummyFish1012 1 year ago
Also what his Mence had Aerial Ace? Don't see that everyday...
HolyCrapProductions1 1 year ago
@HolyCrapProductions1 My mence is from gen 3, im the one whos battling him
skittio 1 year ago
@skittio ...While the fact you are using a set that existed BEFORE Mence actually became good decreases the potency of the vid, as Chou was reacting to the Gen IV sets he has just convinced me Mence is, in fact, OU material.
Tortferngatr 1 year ago
What's the music?
HolyCrapProductions1 1 year ago