I love God, and I thank you for your courage in saying so as well. It really sucks being in a society that constantly bombards anti-christian and anti-religion propaganda in general at you. It also doesn't help to be going to a school full of and staffed by feminists.
I'm glad to finally hear you talk about God, Bernard. I knew there was no way you could have the degree of perception you have otherwise and not understand purpose in the universe, which is enough to rationally believe in God. I'm right there with you on not really liking blindness in belief. One must use logic to understand anything, especially someone we cannot directly see. It makes me wonder what moral virtue is supposed to exist in not acknowledging respect for the Creator of the universe.
@EvilsOfFeminism Yeah, i really don't know why 80 percent of my viewers or (maybe more!) are atheists. It's perplexing and I wish it were otherwise man.
@pinegrove33 Well, I do not hold a grudge against the atheist in this day and age. We live truly surrounded by corruption. Some of us had the luxury to grow up somewhat away from it--I know my closest neighbors were Mennonites about 6 miles away. I can imagine someone growing up in an urban wasteland and/or homeless and destitute (like the 1/4 of American children who go to sleep hungry every night) having a hard time understanding that there can be a perfect Creator YHVH God.
@pinegrove33 Let's not forget the warnings of Powers and Principalities. Demons and governments were considered by the same term, Powers--and of course a Principality is a territory. Who ranks among the Powers and Principalities? The wicked feminazis, of course. There probably is a specific being who exists to channel the possibility of hating fathers (because the wicked ones hate The Father, and must delegate Powers). Why else would the Rockefellers fund feminism?
@pinegrove33 We can look at a machine, or any other collection of parts in a whole, and only understand so much by studying it scientifically. There is more, and that is its purpose...but the definition of purpose always involves a leap of faith! Rather than being hocus-pocus or garbage, it is absolutely necessary to understand the purpose of things. What is the purpose of all this modern nonsense but to make free men into slaves? And that is a more powerful way of thinking, I believe.
@TheWyldeGoose The only way anyone can even be faithful is if they are willing to lose everything for their beliefs. We cannot know if we have a moral code at all, except to the extent that we lose things that are important to us, and refuse to deviate from a selfless and righteous course. At least, that is my reasoning.
@TheWyldeGoose Plenty of people who have never heard of your dead Jewish god suffer the MOST and most harshly.......precisely why your stupid bibble and its drivel have absoluetely nothing to do with suffering, explaining it or allieviating it.
Four common sense reasons why I think there is no god; A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. Even chruches need lightning-rods to protect them from god. C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???
Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children !!
thats your personal opinion and i respect you for it thanks for sharing. im personaly athiest because it never made rational sence to me (i turned athiest at 8 yrs old) and ive allso flatlined and been legaly dead twice nothing happens, but thats my reasoning. neway your cool bud keep it up there arent many ppl on here who acualy speak their mind and their beliefs.
@pinegrove33. Can you imagine yourself never have been exposed to any theism or bibles since birth? would you say that you are bound to be going to hell for not believing in God? Ive been curious what people would say to that...
I do believe in God to a point that his existance is nearly irrefutable to me but free will that is an entirely different idea. You said yourself we have "assignments" and if we have prerequisite goals then how do we have a free will? I do however agree that if you aren't continuously learning and growing as a person you're wasting the gift. Also you sound like you're stifling a yawn through out the whole video. It made me tired.
@gguilford72 Well its not my place to change all the stuff around here, i dont do politics, and I believe what I want to believe, and the only thing that you can argue with me about is taxes. Go back under ur bridge troll
I'm basically an atheist, but I support religion, especially my own, even if many don't acknowledge secularism as one yet. Unfortunately it is a violent faith, and I wish its modern followers would tolerate other beliefs.
plz join my group ts called godloers!only if u believe in him love himbey him and al that. if u dont then y even bother 2 even check it put?like,seriously!only join if u KNOW he does exist if u dont.how dare u! anyways plz join!iloveu!!!! i said that 2 god
@ultramegaunknown You personally may tolerate other's belief's, tbut that's because you are ignorant or you don't want to go to jail. It's perfectly religiously legal for you to kill nonbelievers, that';s what your book says to do and the fact that you could kill and justify it at any moment makes you dangerous and ignorant
The logic there is terrible. a) You are getting the god is perfect from biased sources. b) saying that existing is more perfect than not existing is an opinion. c) you are using one point (god is perfect) to rationalize that he exists, while using the fact that he exists to rationalize he is perfect.
And most importantly of all, my simple friend, your argument is predicated on the fact that he exists. I felt the need to tell you what a horrendous post that was.
a) biased sources? the defintion of god is that he is the greatest thing possible. that he includes every perfection. would it be a biased claim to say that triangles have three sides even if you had never seen one? of course not. thats just what triangles are. b) how do you know? just because people disagree about perfection doesnt mean it is subjective. all that matters here is that one type of existence is more perfect than another.. contd
sorry correction** all that matters here is that existence is more perfect than non existence.
c) obviously if you dont understand analytic philosophical arguments my simple friend, this wont go anywhere. the argument is predicated on the fact that he isperfect, not that he exists. if you take my argument postim pretty sure you could number off the premises in five seconds and see that that is true... instead of wasting my time with these makebelieve objections
Im sorry i didnt reply I thought Id get a notice from a reply. You are entirely missing my point. Your definition of God is that he is entirely perfect is NOT fact. All of your arguements here are saying that the definition is true even if we can't see the defined object. The definition is hotly debated and has no basis. I am very familiar with Philosphy as i am curently minoring in it. However this isnt abstract. I am saying that there is not fact to support the fundamental claim you are making
its a defintion. i can make it whatever i want. i define "god" as the most perfect thing thinkable and according to THAT defintion, he exists. i could define "rabbit" as a conscious radioactive dishwasher with legs and as such, "rabbits" do not exist. however, i dont think my defintion of god is in any like the rabbit defintion. god is widely regarded as the most perfect thing thinkable.
i dont need to suppose that exists to conclude that "god" (as a concept) is perfect, just like i dont need radioactive dishwashers to exist to call them "rabbits". you have pretty blatantly stated that you are arguing semantics with me so hopefully, youl come up with something better next time.
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A dark army marching in the twilight mist. A sorcerer leading his horde. It's the night when cowardly faith will die. Minions of the Devil soon to be dancing. And urinating on the battered body of christ. Tears of rage falling from god's eyes. Which are drowned out by laughter from the night. Where demons are now celebrating. White souls to the slaughter in the dark land. Where Lucifer has left his trail. We rise in the shadows of his kingdom. This night of Satan will never come to an end.
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It is time for a new law and new master. Your prayers go once again unanswered. Renounce the heavy chains of god. Do you think you're truly free bound on your knees? You are part of the problem. As you are accepting of their lies. Sheltered ignorance poisons your mind. Second to your hopeless guilt. With Lucifer you can ride, vulgar and blasphemous. Your faith will be forgotten, defeated once again. If I choose to kneel, I summon my own power. Satan is our God, a savior of humanity.
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Demon hunters shoot down angels from the sky. In the city of god, they are dying. Mortar shells shatter the walls of holiness. The masses are terrified and screaming. Their hope is lost as god's gold turns to rust. Innocents looking to end the pain. Their pitiful lives come to an end. Satan's wisdom soon brings us to life. Leaving the pain for the cowards to endure. The masses of futility are forgotten. We are the champions and they were defeated. We are as one with the demon's darkness.
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Demon's maggots scrape away the body in decay. From the inside until your savior is empty. His failure is cleansed with your hatred. Your god stands below dark emptiness. Lost and forgotten in the cold depths. Glaring up from the bottom arises Satan. The body of christ will satisfy his hunger. Vomit your pallid beliefs. As you live to suffer in ignorance. Save your pity for those who care. Purged of the will to live your life. You are already dead. You have nothing but a lifeless prayer.
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I am the master of your fear. I am your worst nightmare. I am god's greatest foe. I am the one and only prince of Hell. Futile prayers lead the way to the eye of suffering. In the darkest nights where you can not hide. In the deepest woods I watch over you. You'll embrace me while your god is defeated. I shall show you to the euphoria of the pit. Your seven pleasures will come to reality. I am the master of your world. Shiver from the presence of my dark power. You are now under my command.
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There's no way out, you're entrapped in their lies. Their stories are to control your feeble mind. Their churches are eating through your wages. Temple of lies, so full of emptiness. Mirrors to their greedy, ancient scam. I stare through your eyes and see nothing. Your willing ignorance has destroyed you. You're chasing fantasies that you'll never reach. I live my life above the lies of the sheep. I'll never surrender, I'll always fight for my mind. With Satan by my side, I stand above all.
part2: you said "You can't see the human mind, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right?". Very important point. This is cogito ergo sum, I think therefore I am. This is the very essence of western philosophy and means by just asking questions about my existence, I exist. Apart from that, I can capture and perceive human minds because people talk to me, and I can sense their mind by their behaviour etc.
Non of this ever happens with God. I don't see, feel, know, perceive him whatsoever.
I wanted to state that if I don't see that "God" (whatever this means) you got in your head, it doesn't exist for me. You just have to respect that, like I respect all other believing people. I think it's a big mistake trying to make everyhing real in religions, because it's a matter of faith and emotions anyway. By trying to prove everything, you reach an impasse and end up frustrated and sad, because there's not one single evidence for the existence of ghosts or gods.
i totally agree, we can't force people to have beliefs that are within our guidelines.
That's all i have to say but so you don't think am a leftist i continue to write....i was raised up an Athiest, i was kicked out of my home by my father for attending a church at 17 yrs. old, i commend you and your spreading of the word, even if it is not totally biblical, at least you are doing something!
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
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There's no way out, you're entrapped in their lies. Their stories are to control your feeble mind. Their churches are eating through your wages. Temple of lies, so full of emptiness. Mirrors to their greedy, ancient scam. I stare through your eyes and see nothing. Your willing ignorance has destroyed you. You're chasing fantasies that you'll never reach. I live my life above the lies of the sheep. I'll never surrender, I'll always fight for my mind. With Satan by my side, I stand above all.
Yes, I think there is a struggle between good and evil and evil always tries to conquer good. You can think whatever you want though as I respect your diversity. Do you respect mine though?
I never spoke of a "loving God" here. Did you watch the video? I am not sure God will punish us but he certainly may fail to reward us. I do not believe God is all powerful but I do believe in Satan and his influence. That being said I think the Devil's lesser power, unlike God's, comes from his power to seduce us into doing what he wants.
You're possibly the shallowest man in history. First facial expressions and then a flag comment. Who cares? Get some legitimate analysis you transparent troglodyte.
No, you do what you wish but how does faith demean one? What does being faithless have to offer? If you've seen nothing in your life that suggests God exists then think what you want. As for me I've seen otherwise. Nothing is for free. Quit setting up straw men. Learn to respond to what people actually say. If you can't do that then maybe you should reconsider what you believe in.
Maybe you should realize, that speaking on youtube, is like speaking in public.
It is speaking in public
So if you don't talk about being religious in public, because you can't stand other opinions maybe you should transfer that policy to youtube and turn of and delete all comments.
2) I never talked about you indoctrinating people, (did you fee guilty ?) but about Christians being indoctrinated (the opposite).
There's an expression for what you contended and it's 'not reading your opponents arguments because you want everybody who watches your video to tell you how great you are.'
I see many values in life. If I were you I'd just respond to what people say and desist in making things up. Why would I feel guilty? What I said is available on the video above. Right? You can see that can't you? What Christians are indoctrinated?
Ah, no, I never expect anyone to say anything one way or another. What's up with all these lies? I'm not like that. Do you know me? Obviously not. Why don't you just respect people and respond to what they actually say?
Go ahead and speak your mind. As for me I'll be happy to just keep tearing you apart. I wouldn't be surprised if that mountain was your only friend in the world. Who else would you tell it to? You wouldn't know an argument from salvation and the same is true with your relation to the word "intelligent."
... out of touch with the world they lived in, and whoud have been left behind by rational thinkin man, if where not for indoctrination through the mellenia and mans pathetic inability to go through life without pleasing some master who tells him what to do, so that might shut the burning quest of looking for answers with the ashurens, that as long as he follows the master, the road will be clear, there his a goal, and what ever you do, its part of gods plan.
I see quite a bit of value in life, the after world, and in fulfilling my obligations to God. What's so threatening about that? I believe you've set up a straw man here. I never stated I saw no value in life. There's a word for what you contended and it's "lying." I feel sorry for you too but ultimately you choose your own fate which has nothing to do with me. You go ahead and roast yourself. Who cares?
Let me start by saying I dont believe in a god but I respect everyones beliefs and I am just trying to express mine, First how did god get there, obviously something, some sort of outworldly force must have created "God" and it seems the idea of God,Brahman,Nirvana, or Allah are all the same to me. Now after saying this, try this, Talk to "God" or what you believe in, and ask him to talk to you for a few minutes, it shouldnt be hard for the almighty, hasnt worked for me, but try it yourself.
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I don't believe in god, but I can't watch anymore of this video. I don't know if this douchefuck believes in god or doesn't believe in god...and I don't care. These kind of people are so stupid...the ones that make a video thinking that they have something important to say...and then they make the real serious face to make it seem like they're really knowledgeable about what they're talking about. Scrunching your face around means you're smart and should be listened to.
Why is someone a name if they state that they believe in God? What do you find so threatening about that? Go ahead and think what you want. I think I have something important to say on the subject but if you don't share my opinion that's fine. I respect your diversity. Why can't you respect mine? You're also a liar. Why would any one think facial expressions made them smart? Hello?
I lost my religious beliefs, but something that I never fail to see, atheists are almost always jerks with something lodged deep in their sphincter. Christians and Buddhists tend to be the nicest people that you will ever meet. Not so much members of the other famous religious communities. Although I can not reconcile myself to a believe in a Supreme being who runs the Universe, I do not want others to loose faith in Christianity because that makes for one cold world.
You have to live more, travel more around the miserable planet of ours to see who is trying to do good by the down trodden and who is compassionate to those who have no one. You may have met some jerks who call themselves Christians, but true Christianity is not an identification and true Christians and even the less than true Christians average out a whole a lot more in the humanity department than atheists.
I'm not talking about a small sample size, though geographically I'm restricted. Nearly all of the people I know are from Canada/US.
Why would you automatically assume that I'm sheltered? My argument is that most Christians aren't good, kind people, as most people aren't good and kind.
And I have my qualms with organized religion. It probably does more harm than good.
Mr. Chapin, while I respect much of what you have to say, it will take far more evidence than a mere "Arguments from Personal Experience", no matter how numerous those arguments are, to convince me that there is a god. Remember, conjuring up a god(s) to explain things brings up an even more pressing question: Who created the creator? "But god is eternal!!" you gripe, but that is even more flawed and doesn't answer my question. Within nonexistence are no rules prohibiting existence.
I love God, and I thank you for your courage in saying so as well. It really sucks being in a society that constantly bombards anti-christian and anti-religion propaganda in general at you. It also doesn't help to be going to a school full of and staffed by feminists.
Mandalorian92 1 week ago
@Mandalorian92 thanks so much! good to know that there's another believer out there on Youtube!
pinegrove33 1 week ago 2
I believe in god
lubicuslatinae 2 weeks ago
I'm glad to finally hear you talk about God, Bernard. I knew there was no way you could have the degree of perception you have otherwise and not understand purpose in the universe, which is enough to rationally believe in God. I'm right there with you on not really liking blindness in belief. One must use logic to understand anything, especially someone we cannot directly see. It makes me wonder what moral virtue is supposed to exist in not acknowledging respect for the Creator of the universe.
EvilsOfFeminism 7 months ago
@EvilsOfFeminism Yeah, i really don't know why 80 percent of my viewers or (maybe more!) are atheists. It's perplexing and I wish it were otherwise man.
pinegrove33 7 months ago
@pinegrove33 Well, I do not hold a grudge against the atheist in this day and age. We live truly surrounded by corruption. Some of us had the luxury to grow up somewhat away from it--I know my closest neighbors were Mennonites about 6 miles away. I can imagine someone growing up in an urban wasteland and/or homeless and destitute (like the 1/4 of American children who go to sleep hungry every night) having a hard time understanding that there can be a perfect Creator YHVH God.
EvilsOfFeminism 7 months ago
@pinegrove33 Let's not forget the warnings of Powers and Principalities. Demons and governments were considered by the same term, Powers--and of course a Principality is a territory. Who ranks among the Powers and Principalities? The wicked feminazis, of course. There probably is a specific being who exists to channel the possibility of hating fathers (because the wicked ones hate The Father, and must delegate Powers). Why else would the Rockefellers fund feminism?
EvilsOfFeminism 7 months ago
@pinegrove33 We can look at a machine, or any other collection of parts in a whole, and only understand so much by studying it scientifically. There is more, and that is its purpose...but the definition of purpose always involves a leap of faith! Rather than being hocus-pocus or garbage, it is absolutely necessary to understand the purpose of things. What is the purpose of all this modern nonsense but to make free men into slaves? And that is a more powerful way of thinking, I believe.
EvilsOfFeminism 7 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose The only way anyone can even be faithful is if they are willing to lose everything for their beliefs. We cannot know if we have a moral code at all, except to the extent that we lose things that are important to us, and refuse to deviate from a selfless and righteous course. At least, that is my reasoning.
EvilsOfFeminism 7 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Plenty of people who have never heard of your dead Jewish god suffer the MOST and most harshly.......precisely why your stupid bibble and its drivel have absoluetely nothing to do with suffering, explaining it or allieviating it.
theherdmentality 9 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose it seems the devil loves to dangle child raping in front of cattholic priests and they take it every time......MUST be the devil, huh?
theherdmentality 9 months ago
That was as close to my position on God, purpose and life as I have ever encountered. It is nice to know I do not walk this earth alone.
steve0281 9 months ago
@steve0281 I'm very glad my friend!
pinegrove33 9 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose never heard that before but it makes perfect sense to me my man
pinegrove33 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose I agree and excellent analysis.
pinegrove33 10 months ago
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Four common sense reasons why I think there is no god; A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. Even chruches need lightning-rods to protect them from god. C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???
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Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children !!
lizazoon 1 year ago
thats your personal opinion and i respect you for it thanks for sharing. im personaly athiest because it never made rational sence to me (i turned athiest at 8 yrs old) and ive allso flatlined and been legaly dead twice nothing happens, but thats my reasoning. neway your cool bud keep it up there arent many ppl on here who acualy speak their mind and their beliefs.
yenreitmit1 1 year ago
@pinegrove33. Can you imagine yourself never have been exposed to any theism or bibles since birth? would you say that you are bound to be going to hell for not believing in God? Ive been curious what people would say to that...
sanjosebum85 1 year ago
I do believe in God to a point that his existance is nearly irrefutable to me but free will that is an entirely different idea. You said yourself we have "assignments" and if we have prerequisite goals then how do we have a free will? I do however agree that if you aren't continuously learning and growing as a person you're wasting the gift. Also you sound like you're stifling a yawn through out the whole video. It made me tired.
Itsallover57 1 year ago
Christianity isn't a religion. Religion is man made and God wants a relationship with us.
I love my atheist friends with all my heart, and i sin just as much as they do.
i am not religious but i have a relationship with God :)
viperx4wert 2 years ago
@viperx4wert
Cute. Now that you have admitted to not being a religion, you have to give up your tax exempt status and pay your taxes retroactively.
gguilford72 1 year ago
@gguilford72 I would pay my taxes, but alas i am only 16 years old. My mom pays the taxes. =D
viperx4wert 1 year ago
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Not you specifically. The Church in general.
gguilford72 1 year ago
@gguilford72 Well its not my place to change all the stuff around here, i dont do politics, and I believe what I want to believe, and the only thing that you can argue with me about is taxes. Go back under ur bridge troll
viperx4wert 1 year ago
it is not God that is driving the feminits shell trick must be the other dude
shazam20007 2 years ago
This is one of my fav vids of yours.
Very well made.
mala265 3 years ago 3
I'm basically an atheist, but I support religion, especially my own, even if many don't acknowledge secularism as one yet. Unfortunately it is a violent faith, and I wish its modern followers would tolerate other beliefs.
mattcg90 3 years ago
I know what you mean
I myself am a Christian, and I tolerate others' beliefs.
I just get pissed when people trash on my beliefs to hold up their own
I'm sure you feel the same way
ultramegaunknown 2 years ago 14
wow, an alright christian that respects others opinions, never thought i'd see the day :)
dalektaliban 2 years ago
plz join my group ts called godloers!only if u believe in him love himbey him and al that. if u dont then y even bother 2 even check it put?like,seriously!only join if u KNOW he does exist if u dont.how dare u! anyways plz join!iloveu!!!! i said that 2 god
beyonceisbeautiful 2 years ago
@ultramegaunknown You personally may tolerate other's belief's, tbut that's because you are ignorant or you don't want to go to jail. It's perfectly religiously legal for you to kill nonbelievers, that';s what your book says to do and the fact that you could kill and justify it at any moment makes you dangerous and ignorant
theherdmentality 9 months ago
@theherdmentality That's actually the Quran. Check your facts, dumbass. Don't be mad at God cuz he didn't give you an efficient brain. Peace!
ultramegaunknown 9 months ago
@ultramegaunknown I see tons of those types everyday.
spellbreakerko 2 months ago in playlist Higit pang mga video mula kay pinegrove33
heres how i percieve it.
god obviously exists because he is absolutely perfect and existing is more perfect than not existing. therefore the existence of god is self-evident
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
I think one of the points of life is to realize we are not perfect beings.
Once we accept that, we'll be a lot better off
Next, try to make the world you live in better
for you and for others.
ultramegaunknown 3 years ago
i never said we were perfect beings.. i said god is. duh
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
I know
I didn't disagree
I just said, we're not perfect
You said, God IS perfect
ultramegaunknown 3 years ago
alright..?
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
I gotcha
ultramegaunknown 3 years ago
The logic there is terrible. a) You are getting the god is perfect from biased sources. b) saying that existing is more perfect than not existing is an opinion. c) you are using one point (god is perfect) to rationalize that he exists, while using the fact that he exists to rationalize he is perfect.
And most importantly of all, my simple friend, your argument is predicated on the fact that he exists. I felt the need to tell you what a horrendous post that was.
gobsbsdvfas 3 years ago
a) biased sources? the defintion of god is that he is the greatest thing possible. that he includes every perfection. would it be a biased claim to say that triangles have three sides even if you had never seen one? of course not. thats just what triangles are. b) how do you know? just because people disagree about perfection doesnt mean it is subjective. all that matters here is that one type of existence is more perfect than another.. contd
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
sorry correction** all that matters here is that existence is more perfect than non existence.
c) obviously if you dont understand analytic philosophical arguments my simple friend, this wont go anywhere. the argument is predicated on the fact that he isperfect, not that he exists. if you take my argument postim pretty sure you could number off the premises in five seconds and see that that is true... instead of wasting my time with these makebelieve objections
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
You get a thumbs up
ultramegaunknown 3 years ago
Im sorry i didnt reply I thought Id get a notice from a reply. You are entirely missing my point. Your definition of God is that he is entirely perfect is NOT fact. All of your arguements here are saying that the definition is true even if we can't see the defined object. The definition is hotly debated and has no basis. I am very familiar with Philosphy as i am curently minoring in it. However this isnt abstract. I am saying that there is not fact to support the fundamental claim you are making
gobsbsdvfas 3 years ago
its a defintion. i can make it whatever i want. i define "god" as the most perfect thing thinkable and according to THAT defintion, he exists. i could define "rabbit" as a conscious radioactive dishwasher with legs and as such, "rabbits" do not exist. however, i dont think my defintion of god is in any like the rabbit defintion. god is widely regarded as the most perfect thing thinkable.
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
i dont need to suppose that exists to conclude that "god" (as a concept) is perfect, just like i dont need radioactive dishwashers to exist to call them "rabbits". you have pretty blatantly stated that you are arguing semantics with me so hopefully, youl come up with something better next time.
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
God does exist
End of story
How you perceive it is up to you
ultramegaunknown 3 years ago 2
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TheDarkLordLucifer 3 years ago
part2: you said "You can't see the human mind, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right?". Very important point. This is cogito ergo sum, I think therefore I am. This is the very essence of western philosophy and means by just asking questions about my existence, I exist. Apart from that, I can capture and perceive human minds because people talk to me, and I can sense their mind by their behaviour etc.
Non of this ever happens with God. I don't see, feel, know, perceive him whatsoever.
Listendudeok 3 years ago
I wanted to state that if I don't see that "God" (whatever this means) you got in your head, it doesn't exist for me. You just have to respect that, like I respect all other believing people. I think it's a big mistake trying to make everyhing real in religions, because it's a matter of faith and emotions anyway. By trying to prove everything, you reach an impasse and end up frustrated and sad, because there's not one single evidence for the existence of ghosts or gods.
Listendudeok 3 years ago
Good Video- well blessed with insight.
phalanx25 3 years ago 3
If God does exist he is one sick fuck
What is the point of God creating a kingdom (earth) where he already knows whats going to happen to everybody and the outcomes of events
thehunjo2 3 years ago
What religion are you?
ncbeast18 3 years ago
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Look, the point is very simple.
I don't see any God.
That is enough.
Listendudeok 3 years ago
1:27....Amen!
i totally agree, we can't force people to have beliefs that are within our guidelines.
That's all i have to say but so you don't think am a leftist i continue to write....i was raised up an Athiest, i was kicked out of my home by my father for attending a church at 17 yrs. old, i commend you and your spreading of the word, even if it is not totally biblical, at least you are doing something!
NICJEN2008 3 years ago 4
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
quicksiliva 3 years ago
This is a very good approach.
ChaosCalligraphy 3 years ago
I agree
crypter27 3 years ago
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TheDarkLordLucifer 3 years ago
Yes, I think there is a struggle between good and evil and evil always tries to conquer good. You can think whatever you want though as I respect your diversity. Do you respect mine though?
pinegrove33 3 years ago 4
I never spoke of a "loving God" here. Did you watch the video? I am not sure God will punish us but he certainly may fail to reward us. I do not believe God is all powerful but I do believe in Satan and his influence. That being said I think the Devil's lesser power, unlike God's, comes from his power to seduce us into doing what he wants.
pinegrove33 3 years ago
I don't think the nay-sayers to this post even get it..
there is a mountain of wisdom spoken here if one gets through the jungle of words.. excellent vid, deserves five stars all the way.
muzalot 3 years ago
You're possibly the shallowest man in history. First facial expressions and then a flag comment. Who cares? Get some legitimate analysis you transparent troglodyte.
pinegrove33 3 years ago
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P.P.S. (and this just for it)
With that flag in the background, you get the image of a guy
With a cannon through his had, framed by the word 'COKE IT' talking about gods will ...
Xigano1 3 years ago
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P.S.:
While I totally agree, that modern mans pursued of material goods is one of his worst flaws,
Is being faithfool (ouch, my bad spelling) not the same thing ?
The only difference I see is, that you expect everything you ever want for eternity, and for free ... and God ... and Jebus.
Xigano1 3 years ago
No, you do what you wish but how does faith demean one? What does being faithless have to offer? If you've seen nothing in your life that suggests God exists then think what you want. As for me I've seen otherwise. Nothing is for free. Quit setting up straw men. Learn to respond to what people actually say. If you can't do that then maybe you should reconsider what you believe in.
pinegrove33 3 years ago
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Maybe you should realize, that speaking on youtube, is like speaking in public.
It is speaking in public
So if you don't talk about being religious in public, because you can't stand other opinions maybe you should transfer that policy to youtube and turn of and delete all comments.
Xigano1 3 years ago
1) I wrote 'value in life,
EXCEPT it being the fulfillment of ...'
So I acknowledged you see ONE value in life.
2) I never talked about you indoctrinating people, (did you fee guilty ?) but about Christians being indoctrinated (the opposite).
There's an expression for what you contended and it's 'not reading your opponents arguments because you want everybody who watches your video to tell you how great you are.'
Xigano1 3 years ago
I see many values in life. If I were you I'd just respond to what people say and desist in making things up. Why would I feel guilty? What I said is available on the video above. Right? You can see that can't you? What Christians are indoctrinated?
Ah, no, I never expect anyone to say anything one way or another. What's up with all these lies? I'm not like that. Do you know me? Obviously not. Why don't you just respect people and respond to what they actually say?
pinegrove33 3 years ago
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pinegrove33, I don't feel threatened by you.
I'm trying to speak my mind, because I think you're wrong.
I'm "going to tell it to the mountain" as I see it,
while I can stand more or less intelligent criticism -
That's what's called 'having an argument'.
First to clear up some things:
Xigano1 3 years ago
Go ahead and speak your mind. As for me I'll be happy to just keep tearing you apart. I wouldn't be surprised if that mountain was your only friend in the world. Who else would you tell it to? You wouldn't know an argument from salvation and the same is true with your relation to the word "intelligent."
pinegrove33 3 years ago
... out of touch with the world they lived in, and whoud have been left behind by rational thinkin man, if where not for indoctrination through the mellenia and mans pathetic inability to go through life without pleasing some master who tells him what to do, so that might shut the burning quest of looking for answers with the ashurens, that as long as he follows the master, the road will be clear, there his a goal, and what ever you do, its part of gods plan.
GROW A F...ING SPINE.
Xigano1 3 years ago
I have a spine. That's why I do videos. If I didn't I'd say nothing. I indoctrinate no one. You go your own way and that's fine with me.
pinegrove33 3 years ago
pinegrove33, what sad "man" you are.
If you can't see a value in life,
except it being the fullfillment of the plan of some fictional caracter from the bronze age, I am truely sorry for you.
I agree, that we should all make the most of our life in a way that 'leave an impression on society and our fellow man'.
But as an Atheist, I don't need "His" aproval, and even less the guidelines of a book written ... (500 sign limit ... see following ...)
Xigano1 3 years ago
I see quite a bit of value in life, the after world, and in fulfilling my obligations to God. What's so threatening about that? I believe you've set up a straw man here. I never stated I saw no value in life. There's a word for what you contended and it's "lying." I feel sorry for you too but ultimately you choose your own fate which has nothing to do with me. You go ahead and roast yourself. Who cares?
pinegrove33 3 years ago
Let me start by saying I dont believe in a god but I respect everyones beliefs and I am just trying to express mine, First how did god get there, obviously something, some sort of outworldly force must have created "God" and it seems the idea of God,Brahman,Nirvana, or Allah are all the same to me. Now after saying this, try this, Talk to "God" or what you believe in, and ask him to talk to you for a few minutes, it shouldnt be hard for the almighty, hasnt worked for me, but try it yourself.
greendaykid10235 4 years ago
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I don't believe in god, but I can't watch anymore of this video. I don't know if this douchefuck believes in god or doesn't believe in god...and I don't care. These kind of people are so stupid...the ones that make a video thinking that they have something important to say...and then they make the real serious face to make it seem like they're really knowledgeable about what they're talking about. Scrunching your face around means you're smart and should be listened to.
markotraco 4 years ago
Why is someone a name if they state that they believe in God? What do you find so threatening about that? Go ahead and think what you want. I think I have something important to say on the subject but if you don't share my opinion that's fine. I respect your diversity. Why can't you respect mine? You're also a liar. Why would any one think facial expressions made them smart? Hello?
pinegrove33 3 years ago
I lost my religious beliefs, but something that I never fail to see, atheists are almost always jerks with something lodged deep in their sphincter. Christians and Buddhists tend to be the nicest people that you will ever meet. Not so much members of the other famous religious communities. Although I can not reconcile myself to a believe in a Supreme being who runs the Universe, I do not want others to loose faith in Christianity because that makes for one cold world.
ibmsony101 3 years ago 5
Many of the Christians I know are the most intolerant people I know. And I know plenty of atheists who have better morals than Christians.
If you ask me, only a person weak in spirit and mind requires a religion to dictate morals.
robx0r 2 years ago
You have to live more, travel more around the miserable planet of ours to see who is trying to do good by the down trodden and who is compassionate to those who have no one. You may have met some jerks who call themselves Christians, but true Christianity is not an identification and true Christians and even the less than true Christians average out a whole a lot more in the humanity department than atheists.
ibmsony101 2 years ago
I'm not talking about a small sample size, though geographically I'm restricted. Nearly all of the people I know are from Canada/US.
Why would you automatically assume that I'm sheltered? My argument is that most Christians aren't good, kind people, as most people aren't good and kind.
And I have my qualms with organized religion. It probably does more harm than good.
robx0r 2 years ago
You're right, nobody can prove wrong the statement "god doesn't exist." You're absolutely right.
markotraco 4 years ago
for times <2min why?
capoate 4 years ago
Mr. Chapin, while I respect much of what you have to say, it will take far more evidence than a mere "Arguments from Personal Experience", no matter how numerous those arguments are, to convince me that there is a god. Remember, conjuring up a god(s) to explain things brings up an even more pressing question: Who created the creator? "But god is eternal!!" you gripe, but that is even more flawed and doesn't answer my question. Within nonexistence are no rules prohibiting existence.
LordSlag 4 years ago
godstruthtous dot com
No church, no religion. Just your heart a-mended by Christ himself is all that is between you and God the Father.
This is what I was moved to post. God's will be done.
Truth0rDeath 4 years ago
Free will and obligations, how does that work?
ashboxtoo 4 years ago