so meaning kata of shotokan is no longer 26 all in all? its been added by how many kinds? can i learn this since i was a JKA am i allowed learn this..pls.reply..
@oleczuz Hyakuhachiho was developed by Kanazawa Sensei, so it's an SKIF kata, not JKA. JKA pretty much sticks to the original 26 kata syllabus. Men like Azai Sensei and Kanazawa Sensei have gone on to develop their personal expressions of Shotokan. Since you are under JKA, I doubt they would approve of you learning some other than JKA's syllabus.
The glitter and glamour of the JKA is a trap to be avoided, the world renowned names, the hard charging, dynamic techniques, the lure of up close association with "the" Sensei and the ever present tournament. Look closely!! Why are they dramatically different from main line Okinawan styles? No weapons, no ground techniques. Wasn't Funakoshi Okinawan? Why do you see so few open hand techniques? Why those extended, back twisted high kicks that make no combative sense? Is it karate, real karate?
See volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata. This volume was printed in 1977, long before the split, law suit and JKS. Asai was a visionary. However, it did not include this kata.
Shotokan has a primacy to Japan, Goju to Okinawa. Various systems see importance in different ways. So, the development of this kata along Shotokan lines is typical of how systems behave. Always has been, always will be that is why there is Goju, Shorin, Uechi, Isshin, Shotokan etc.
OSU,IT IS GREAT TO SEE Shotokan Masters do various different Kata's.Kancho Kanazawa,Acai Shihan and other masters are known to practice various Kata's.Kancho Kanazawa does Shito Ryu and Goju Ryu Kata's.Thank you Shotokan68 for the information.
I am no expert but to me it seems that it is a Naha-te influenced Shotokan kata. Most of Shotokan is, I think, derived from Okinawan Shuri-te and Tomari-te.
Gichin Funakoshi never studied Naha-te but somehow it seems that small amounts of Naha-te got inside Shotokan.
I've been trying to learn something from the movements of the best Hyakuhachiho (Suparimpei) I've ever seen on a video — your video —, but it gets blurred in the middle of the show. Still yesterday, it was all right. Could you replace the damaged video with a new one? Paulo
It is a modified version of Suparinpei. Please read volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata.
It is a modified version of Suparinpei. Please read volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata.
@shotokan68 i dont really care what Masatoshi Nakayama said, shotokan kata yoi doesnt start like that, that is specifically shito-ryu and goju-ryu, and if you look @ the list of approved JKA and WKF kata's for shotokan, hyakuhachiho is not on there. And all hyakuhaciho is is suparinpei with a standardized japanese name instead of the okinawan dialect
I think the yoi in this kata doesn't represent the shotokan standard, but more like the characteristic opening of the kata. To me, what Sihan Nakayama wrote on Best Karate series is the way of Shotokan.
I think the yoi in this kata doesn't represent the Shotokan standard, but more like the characteristic opening of the kata. To me, what Sihan Nakayama wrote on Best Karate series is the way of Shotokan
If this kata (hyakuhachiho) really listed on Best Karate Vol.1, then it should be Shotokan,the World Shotokan Association should register this kata into WKF kata list, then the kata can be perform in recent tournament.
sorry it´s not its the shotokan version of Goju´s kata Suparimpei, note how it has been arranged/ modified !!! just like other katas in the shotokan curricula.
All kata were the product of one being or a group. That being the case, there are likely no old kata that have remained original. Shotokan intentionally modified kata during the early days of the JKA in order to fit their purposes. In like manner, either Uechi ryu, Goju Ryu or Shorin Ryu, and likely all, have modified kata because they all share kata with the same name but different technique. And, that is just fine, for, Ryu means a school or system unique to a group. CHW, JKA life member.
imnot sure but from the looks of it i do belive it is a shoto-kan version of a chito or a sheito kata called haiku umm yea its not long enough to be supaenpia
i really liked this! he was a little tense in his upper body though.
chickenisgoodish 9 months ago
so meaning kata of shotokan is no longer 26 all in all? its been added by how many kinds? can i learn this since i was a JKA am i allowed learn this..pls.reply..
oleczuz 1 year ago
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deek77 1 year ago
@oleczuz Hyakuhachiho was developed by Kanazawa Sensei, so it's an SKIF kata, not JKA. JKA pretty much sticks to the original 26 kata syllabus. Men like Azai Sensei and Kanazawa Sensei have gone on to develop their personal expressions of Shotokan. Since you are under JKA, I doubt they would approve of you learning some other than JKA's syllabus.
deek77 1 year ago
@oleczuz Oops, my mistake, I meant to say it was developed by Asai Sensei, so it's a JKS kata.
deek77 1 year ago
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@oleczuz Oops, my mistake, I meant to say it was developed by Asai Sensei, so it's a JKS kata.
deek77 1 year ago
Good karateka should not be limited by styles,as Gichin Funakoshi's Shoto Niju Kun:" always be prepared to free your mind".
Karatekahonorer 4 months ago
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The glitter and glamour of the JKA is a trap to be avoided, the world renowned names, the hard charging, dynamic techniques, the lure of up close association with "the" Sensei and the ever present tournament. Look closely!! Why are they dramatically different from main line Okinawan styles? No weapons, no ground techniques. Wasn't Funakoshi Okinawan? Why do you see so few open hand techniques? Why those extended, back twisted high kicks that make no combative sense? Is it karate, real karate?
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
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IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
can any one tell me what is the stance and hand actions he did before and after the cresent kick? thanks
arigatoast 1 year ago
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IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
Zenkutsu dachi. The hand techniques have various bunkai including tsukami yose, grabbing and pulling.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
I am curious to know how you got this video footage?
Kokoblico 1 year ago
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deek77 2 years ago
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See volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata. This volume was printed in 1977, long before the split, law suit and JKS. Asai was a visionary. However, it did not include this kata.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
Hyakuhachiho=108 steps or stances.Must be a variant of the famous Suparimpei,a Goju Ryu kata.
eighttrigramspalm1 2 years ago
I noticed the similarities of this kata and Suparinpei/Peichurin kata.
SithV1 2 years ago
im pretty sure this is a goju ryu kata as well
bigjavi973 2 years ago
What a nonsens.
Shotokan is doing a Suparimpei Creation.
and some of you are thinking this here is an old shotokan kata...
Crazy world !
DonauIsar 2 years ago
hi all this is not a shito-ryu kats it is a old shotokan one not use by most guy but it is in japan
koontzy1 2 years ago 2
Look his hands, before the performance.
Shotokan katas don't starts with this "Yoi" (Ready position).
This is not shotokan style. I don't know, but I think this is a Shitoryu kata.
tottypatty1986 2 years ago
@tottypatty1986 Shotokan katas after the Heians start with various hand positions...
MartialArts4Ever 2 years ago
I think this is not a shotokan kata. ;)
tottypatty1986 2 years ago
feo!! se ve duro y rigido como los de shotokan. no puede hacer las diagonales
MAQQABA1 2 years ago
Riddle me this... If I was to perform Suparinpei like this, it would just be bad Goju... So how can it then be good Shotokan...?
seagoju 2 years ago
Shotokan has a primacy to Japan, Goju to Okinawa. Various systems see importance in different ways. So, the development of this kata along Shotokan lines is typical of how systems behave. Always has been, always will be that is why there is Goju, Shorin, Uechi, Isshin, Shotokan etc.
IEKUKATAKA 2 years ago
OSU,IT IS GREAT TO SEE Shotokan Masters do various different Kata's.Kancho Kanazawa,Acai Shihan and other masters are known to practice various Kata's.Kancho Kanazawa does Shito Ryu and Goju Ryu Kata's.Thank you Shotokan68 for the information.
SKIFTIGER 2 years ago
I am no expert but to me it seems that it is a Naha-te influenced Shotokan kata. Most of Shotokan is, I think, derived from Okinawan Shuri-te and Tomari-te.
Gichin Funakoshi never studied Naha-te but somehow it seems that small amounts of Naha-te got inside Shotokan.
groveavenue 2 years ago
Looks like the JKS world champs held in Yoyogi stadium in 2001. I remember this kata!
nickhobo 2 years ago
im pretty sure is a real shotokan kata!!
im sure it is not an original shotokan kata!!
karateka013 2 years ago
Love this version great performance
danwilkowado 3 years ago
I've been trying to learn something from the movements of the best Hyakuhachiho (Suparimpei) I've ever seen on a video — your video —, but it gets blurred in the middle of the show. Still yesterday, it was all right. Could you replace the damaged video with a new one? Paulo
PRCGALVAO 3 years ago
Just checked it and it seems to be working fine. Enjoy!
shotokan68 3 years ago
when did this performance take place?
hippocanjump 3 years ago
This is not shotokan, that´s for sure
addeex1 3 years ago
Suparinpei Goju ryu or shito ryu kata, isnot a shotokan kata
krisnasan 3 years ago
It is a modified version of Suparinpei. Please read volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata.
shotokan68 3 years ago
A very bad execution! a bad attempt to imitate a beautiful kata! it is better to do Kata of his own style.
MsShinjin 11 months ago
@shotokan68 really, I was now reading the book and came across this name I had never seen and found this video ^ ^ '
IviConquest 6 months ago
Wrong!! It is a Shotokan kata, you simply are not well informed.
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
this is not an shotokan kata.
IsshoBenkyo 3 years ago
It is a modified version of Suparinpei. Please read volume 1 of the Best Karate series written by the late Masatoshi Nakayama of the JKA. On page 95 he specifically mentions this kata.
shotokan68 3 years ago 3
@shotokan68 i dont really care what Masatoshi Nakayama said, shotokan kata yoi doesnt start like that, that is specifically shito-ryu and goju-ryu, and if you look @ the list of approved JKA and WKF kata's for shotokan, hyakuhachiho is not on there. And all hyakuhaciho is is suparinpei with a standardized japanese name instead of the okinawan dialect
ShotokanBleach 8 months ago
I think the yoi in this kata doesn't represent the shotokan standard, but more like the characteristic opening of the kata. To me, what Sihan Nakayama wrote on Best Karate series is the way of Shotokan.
Karatekahonorer 4 months ago
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I think the yoi in this kata doesn't represent the Shotokan standard, but more like the characteristic opening of the kata. To me, what Sihan Nakayama wrote on Best Karate series is the way of Shotokan
Karatekahonorer 4 months ago
If this kata (hyakuhachiho) really listed on Best Karate Vol.1, then it should be Shotokan,the World Shotokan Association should register this kata into WKF kata list, then the kata can be perform in recent tournament.
Karatekahonorer 4 months ago
Nice kata! Been involved in Shotokan since '64and have never seen or heard of it. However, I like it's content and nature.
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
i like this kata it help me more to understand it because im from shotokan insteade of learning it from shukokai
gazeleyboi 3 years ago
This Kata is Suparinpei, from Shito Ryu Karate Style.
Haisen 3 years ago
sorry it´s not its the shotokan version of Goju´s kata Suparimpei, note how it has been arranged/ modified !!! just like other katas in the shotokan curricula.
mitsourugi 3 years ago
All kata were the product of one being or a group. That being the case, there are likely no old kata that have remained original. Shotokan intentionally modified kata during the early days of the JKA in order to fit their purposes. In like manner, either Uechi ryu, Goju Ryu or Shorin Ryu, and likely all, have modified kata because they all share kata with the same name but different technique. And, that is just fine, for, Ryu means a school or system unique to a group. CHW, JKA life member.
IEKUKATAKA 3 years ago
imnot sure but from the looks of it i do belive it is a shoto-kan version of a chito or a sheito kata called haiku umm yea its not long enough to be supaenpia
smooth108 4 years ago
awesome!
1URESAM 4 years ago
This looks like Sensei Arai from JKS... Is this correct?
physimarc 4 years ago
wow! who's the performer?
Philmoscowitz 4 years ago