railroad crossing accident

[newsmaniaingaidai]

the report says that an express train pushed the car away and stopped about 200 meters ahead of the crossing. a 74-year-old driver was killed.

[fire0840]

@newsmaniaingaidai

I'm sorry.

I cannot translate it well.

[TheDepotCat]

In the UK they're trialling an object detector at crossings. It's linked to the signals so if it picks up some no-brainer trying to cross while the gates are down it'll give the train driver a nice shock by returning the signal protecting the crossing to red.

[fire0840]

There is the device which tells Japan about immediate を for a train.

However, there is not the impossible effect for having crossed it just before that.

[223keikaisoku]

このリレーつばめは平常運転だったのかな？

[fire0840]

「平常運転」とは？

事故後は「運転見合わせ」でしょうね。

事故前にダイヤが乱れていたとしても「踏み切り」が正常に動作し­ていたら、「いつもの時間に来ないから＝直前横断」の理由にはな­りません。

[Majimekun]

じじいからは免許証剥奪しろよ。

[fire0840]

私も同意見ではあるんですが、この地方も行った事ありますし日本­のほとんどの地域で「車なくしては...」という実態では乱暴な­方法です。

かつて民営化によって廃止された各路線での反対意見に「お年寄り­の足」というのも出されましたが、残しても「力不足」。

[fire0840]

自家用車なくても「お年寄り」の移動を十分満たせる「手段」が行­政、民間、地域、などすべてを総合して維持できる方策があったれ­ば...と思います。

「理想論」ですが、実現させる方法は絶対にあると思います。

[Salam811]

In the morning, limited express train which was running on Kagoshima line collided to the car in Miyama city, Fukuoka and the car driver died.

The accident was at "Ayahiro railroad crossing" in Setaka, Miyama city.

At 9:45 a.m. today, limited express train "Relay-Tsubame" which runs between Hakata and Shin-yatsushiro collided to the car which stayed on the railroad crossing. The train stopped after the car was dragged for 200meters.

[fire0840]

Thank you for translation

[Salam811]

You're welcome ;)

[Salam811]

The car was rolled under the train and damaged seriously, and the car driver Mitoshi Matsuo (74 years old) who lived in this city died, but the 310 passengers in the train didn't injure.

The crossing had breaker and warning machine, so the breaker falled normal. Fukuoka Police said "Cause of accident was Mr. Matsuo's car's engine trouble."

[fire0840]

Translation is perfect

[robertgift]

Sad that Mr. Matsuo did not exit his automobile and walk away to safety.

How much time elapses between activation of crossing signals and arrival of the train at the crossing?

In the USA it is usually 25 seconds.

We had a stupid girl stay in her car stalled on the track.

She had 25 seconds to exit her car and walk away.

She stayed in her car and suffered brain damage - more than she already obviously had for remaining in her car.

Though entirely HER fault, she sued the railroad.

[Salam811]

In Japan it's over 1 min, but it always makes traffic jam.

I think that he wasn't level-headed enough to decide to leave from his car at that time...

[robertgift]

1 minute or longer is far too long, unless it is a high speed train.

If the crossing was not clear, they would need to know in time so that they could slow and hopefully stop the train before its arrival at the crossing.

I am a driver instructor.

I teach everyone what to do in such situations. No need to panic.

You have already thought it through.

Get everyone out.

If you can, get help to push the vehicle off the track.

If not, get away, UP STREAM, to you are not hit by debris.

[Boss302fan]

Don't be ridiculous.

IF the crossing is not clear the railroad would need to know in time so they could slow and hopefully stop?

So if someone is on the crossing one mile in front of a 60 mph train...the engineer should put his train into emergency so he could stop?

Tell me that's not what you're saying. LOL

[robertgift]

If an obstruction is on the track or in foul of the track, and cannot be removed enough, they should contact the railroad and slow and stop any train before that crossing.

I recall that some high speed train crossings close the crossing in time to detect any obstructions remaining in the crossing.

If there is something in the crossing, the train gets a signal in time to slow to a stop.

[Boss302fan]

I was refering to your one minute issue. At a higher speed the engineer is going to need far more notice. Crossing gates and their timing won't factorinto this.

In today's North American heavy rail environment I really don't know what you're talking about on the high speed crossings.

So you are saying that if the gate is closed a minute ahead of a 60mph freight...these crossings send a signal to the engineer that "something" is on the track? Wouldn't it need about 4 minutes or so?

[robertgift]

Yes. I assume much more notice is needed for the train to stop in time, so the crossing unfortunately closes even longer before train arrival.

I believe it is merely a wayside signal which the engineer sees.

[Boss302fan]

You are making a lot of bad assumptions. Perhaps you should research before you post things.

High speed heavy rail doesn't work the way you state as far as highway crossing protection is concerned.

[robertgift]

Depends upon the speed.

I assume anything above 120 mph they do not allow grade crossings.

I believe the crossings where they have "foul detection" are in England.

[danagol1985]

wow those trains must be so heavy.

The driver was foolish to do something like that.

[fire0840]

As for the Japanese railroad carriage, the structure standard for the collision is low.

A driver was ignorant and was reckless.

[wildfire19861987]

you don't need a translation. the video says it all. train hits car, driver was an idiot

[fire0840]

Yes, it is so.

A picture is all.

It is the ending of a stupid driver.

[robertgift]

You are doing well now!

What happened?

Signal malfunction?

Vehicle occupants survived?

Thank you

Robert Gift, Denver, Colorado USA

[fire0840]

It is a train and automatic fender-bender.

The person who drove a car died.

The passenger of the train was safe.

[robertgift]

Any English translation?

Thank you.

[fire0840]

I'm sorry.

I cannot translate it well.