You should consider hearing protection. Also, that seems to be a 1:14 twist because the heavier loads tend to veer off at a random angle after they reach a good distance out, which does not occur in a 1:7 twist.
@jakethewhale i was only stateing that they were bounceing of trees was the couse of them flying of at weird angles.. and your mistaken my old friend bullets do commonly richochet off trees and rarely imbed unless the trees 5 foot wide i challenge you to get tracers and shot out of your arm chair be suprised at where they go...
@blackriflex39 Hey there old sport, im not so sure the shot he took at 0:17 looked much like a ricochet ought to, but a mere trifle of disagreement in this forum is no cause for alarm.
@jakethewhale ok let me get this right you belive tht the tracers are destablizing is the reason for them acting like that @ 17 im dont know how much more clear i can say this but its not the twist rate which i would bet a silver nickel is 1 in 9 its hitting trees and bounceing around
@blackriflex39 So I am probably wrong about the 1:14 twist rate, as his description says he is using 1:9. But you can read for yourself in his description, he says that that tracer rounds become destabilized due to the 1:9 twist rate. Tracer rounds are known to do this in a lower twist barrel, i do not believe that it is because of the trees.
@scuds03 Interesting, everything I have been told or read is that the M16/M4 is a 1:14 twist. I was also in the ARMY and have spoke with numerous armorers.
@beencaughstealin Almost all M16, M4, M727's have 1:7 or 1:9 twist rates. The majority are 1:7 now to allow the use of the heavier 62gr bullets. If they had 1:14 twist rates the rounds would come out tumbling. Some private gun makers like POF are using 1:8 barrels which can shoot a variety of ammo.
@beencaughstealin I double checked when I was in the arms room today. They are all stamped 1/7 on the barrel. Did some reading and its actually an update for shooting M855. Older M series rifles were 1/12 and 1/14
@beencaughstealin I believe the original AR-15 had a 1:14 twist, while the M16 and its A1 and A2 variants had a 1:12 twist. The A3 and A4 variants have a 1:7 twist rate.
@beencaughstealin 1 in 14 was the early spec, anything 90s onwards should be 1 in 7. This guy certainly didn't put his info across in the most polite way but I think he's right.
@beencaughstealin Military only uses 1:7 twist rate in order to stabilize heavier bullets such as the 64gr tracers. You have it backwards,1:7 actually stabilizes the bullets better than the old1:12 twist rate they used from 55gr ammo which the military no longer uses.
@beencaughstealin Maybe the very first variants. Then they were 1:12 to shoot the 55 grain M193, and in the 80s with the M16A2 they specified 1:7 to shoot M856 (tracer variant of the M855).
@beencaughstealin Technically you are both right. The M16 original twist ratio was 1 :14 (mdl 601). With the introduction of the Colt 602 it was tightened to a 1:12 ratio. Which did not change until the A2 platform (1:7) due to the new SS109 62gr bullets needing more stability.
@beencaughstealin AR-15's/M16's/M4's are 1:7 twists. That fact is beyond simple to check yourself. It seems your ARMY armorers are idiots who lie to cover up their own lack of knowledge. If you like throwing out creds then I was a Marine infantryman who did a spell in the armory(against my will) and have been shooting AR's for most of my life which includes BUILDING several from scratch. Tho you CAN get them in others. Most common are 1:7,1:8,1:9
@eliminshrintar So we wanna pull rank here and start dick measuring? Bottom line is just ask the manufacturer, I think they know a little more than any "rank"
@BAZYLBRUSH I've shot both. I own a Savage Model 10 in 308 and my buddy has a few rifles in 30-06, I can't tell any difference in the recoil. I'm sure they are a little different but its negligable.
@BAZYLBRUSH I shot a guys 270 at the range and seriously the recoil is NOT worth it..the recoil was very sharp and hard. After 5 rounds my shoulder was sore. I'm just saying there are too many other cheaper calibers out there that do just as well both ballistically and terminally to justify going with the 270.
@BAZYLBRUSH i have a 270 mossberg and the recoil is not bad if your use to shooting lower calibers than it will take time for you to be very accurate but after you shoot it a few times its awesome.
You're both right, as far as I've read. Earlier A1 M16s had a less extreme twist rate (1-14" I think?) than A2 and M4's. Heavier tracers aren't stabilized in A1's and are only used so in a pinch, from what I read. Hell, I could be wrong but I don't think either of you are wrong either.
@immapopcha i write left, shoot rifles left or right (slightly better lefty) and connot for the life of me hold a pistol 2handed in my right hand.... one handed is fine but i just can't place the second hand right lol
Why do the bullets shirk in weird directions in the woods? Does that mean that they hit the ground? Also, I've been seeing alot of these tracer bullet videos and it seems they have increased bullet drop. Does the tracer have anything to do with this, or does bullet drop affect bullets THAT much.
@je25ff ....Politicans tell lies and create fear, that in turn generates job security because they 'find soultions' to the hysteria they create. Guns, crime, taxes, the newest Bad Guy ETC ETC.
@vorevox You are absolutely correct. It's not limited to one side of the aisle or the other; all politicians need some sort of emergency in order to get reelected, whether it's gun control, marajuana, abortion, war, etc.
@beencaughstealin True, but you have a HOUSE downrange. THAT is unsafe... BTW, you can set the trees on fire. I've done it before WITH and WITHOUT tracers on night fire excercises ARMY side.
@lHustonProductionsl Well then you sir had one shitty gun, no offense, but I have 2 .223's (well one with a .223 chamber and one with a 5.56) both with 1:9" twists and they will shoot 75 grain bullets, none to accurate but enough accuracy to hit milk jugs at 250 yards (never shot farther than that so far) If i remember correctly the 865's are 64 grain? so they should be well inside of the 1:9" twists weight range.
it looked like they all started to fly around right when they got the same distance away. was that them hitting stuff in the distance or do they lose reliability at that distance?
bullets bouncing of the leaves ?
19x130mm 22 hours ago
@19x130mm
What happens with tracers is that the filament gets separated from the actual bullet.
MrMalicious5 15 hours ago
see the weird thing is that the kid goes woah at a lefty shooter....
beaniebrothers1 1 day ago
Пуля через несколько сотен метров сильно вилять начинает(уходит в сторону). Как это объяснить?
DaN84015 2 days ago
Shut your kid up, please. "WHAOHAOHAOHAOAUHAOHAOUAAHO!"
M4ST3RL1NKX88 2 days ago
very interesting. I have never seen this before
FyreFox94 6 days ago
this is how real men play laser tag...
mastercfromhalo3 1 week ago
way to shoot right past the house dumbass
Ginge529 1 week ago
tracer rounds dont cause fires dumbasses
thejanitorlol 1 week ago
@thejanitorlol tracers absolutely start fires ive seen it happen, if it hasn't rained and the underbrush is dry its guaranteed...
njginz 2 days ago
@njginz oh well i guess i learned something new ^_^
thejanitorlol 2 days ago
can the tracer not set a fire in the woods you are shooting in?
ItZzDaNox 1 week ago
why are people giving thumbs down to the vid? i thought it was exactly what i expected to see. it was cool and informative.
ghostfox117 1 week ago
it really tells u how fast the 556 bullet is
NITECOREPD 1 week ago
NATO spec for 5.56 is 1:7 twist...
spazzypengin 1 week ago 6
so this is where smokey the bear comes from.
summit123812 2 weeks ago
do the bullets hit the trees when they curve or do they just do that?
Glockman1011 2 weeks ago
You should consider hearing protection. Also, that seems to be a 1:14 twist because the heavier loads tend to veer off at a random angle after they reach a good distance out, which does not occur in a 1:7 twist.
jakethewhale 2 weeks ago
@jakethewhale dude arer you retarded it was hitiing treees ...read a few more books there arm chair
blackriflex39 2 weeks ago
@blackriflex39 Simmer down there, tater tot. Bullets embed into trees, rarely ricochet. PS I own an ar 15 that i gladly shoot from my "arm chair"
jakethewhale 2 weeks ago
@jakethewhale i was only stateing that they were bounceing of trees was the couse of them flying of at weird angles.. and your mistaken my old friend bullets do commonly richochet off trees and rarely imbed unless the trees 5 foot wide i challenge you to get tracers and shot out of your arm chair be suprised at where they go...
blackriflex39 2 weeks ago
@blackriflex39 Hey there old sport, im not so sure the shot he took at 0:17 looked much like a ricochet ought to, but a mere trifle of disagreement in this forum is no cause for alarm.
jakethewhale 2 weeks ago
@jakethewhale ok let me get this right you belive tht the tracers are destablizing is the reason for them acting like that @ 17 im dont know how much more clear i can say this but its not the twist rate which i would bet a silver nickel is 1 in 9 its hitting trees and bounceing around
blackriflex39 2 weeks ago
@blackriflex39 So I am probably wrong about the 1:14 twist rate, as his description says he is using 1:9. But you can read for yourself in his description, he says that that tracer rounds become destabilized due to the 1:9 twist rate. Tracer rounds are known to do this in a lower twist barrel, i do not believe that it is because of the trees.
jakethewhale 2 weeks ago
0:05 you know i started coffin
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wuinny89 2 weeks ago
Very nice AR-15 you got there
cheeeeezitz 3 weeks ago
at 0:17, the round made a spiral move in the air! Never seen that before... pretty cool!
SUPPORTOURTROOPS365 3 weeks ago
Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
What if you hit a squirrel?
shadoza 1 month ago
@shadoza it would probably die
hockeycanada42 1 month ago
Damn that round is flying
malib0osted 1 month ago
You are wrong in your comments about 1 in 14 twist for .mil rifles. M16 and M4 varient rifles are 1 in 7 twist. I'm a unit armorer in the Army.
scuds03 1 month ago 13
@scuds03 Interesting, everything I have been told or read is that the M16/M4 is a 1:14 twist. I was also in the ARMY and have spoke with numerous armorers.
beencaughstealin 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin Almost all M16, M4, M727's have 1:7 or 1:9 twist rates. The majority are 1:7 now to allow the use of the heavier 62gr bullets. If they had 1:14 twist rates the rounds would come out tumbling. Some private gun makers like POF are using 1:8 barrels which can shoot a variety of ammo.
westforkguideservice 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin I double checked when I was in the arms room today. They are all stamped 1/7 on the barrel. Did some reading and its actually an update for shooting M855. Older M series rifles were 1/12 and 1/14
scuds03 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin I believe the original AR-15 had a 1:14 twist, while the M16 and its A1 and A2 variants had a 1:12 twist. The A3 and A4 variants have a 1:7 twist rate.
CDel921 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin 1 in 14 was the early spec, anything 90s onwards should be 1 in 7. This guy certainly didn't put his info across in the most polite way but I think he's right.
chunkyfecalbreakfast 1 month ago
Depending on the variant you are both right, they used 1:7 and 1:14 and even 1:12 twists on their barrels. Wikipedia that shit I just did :)
DystruktoBoi1 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin Military only uses 1:7 twist rate in order to stabilize heavier bullets such as the 64gr tracers. You have it backwards,1:7 actually stabilizes the bullets better than the old1:12 twist rate they used from 55gr ammo which the military no longer uses.
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Darkaine 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
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@beencaughstealin Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
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@beencaughstealin Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
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@beencaughstealin Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin Maybe the very first variants. Then they were 1:12 to shoot the 55 grain M193, and in the 80s with the M16A2 they specified 1:7 to shoot M856 (tracer variant of the M855).
AngeredKabar 4 weeks ago
@beencaughstealin Technically you are both right. The M16 original twist ratio was 1 :14 (mdl 601). With the introduction of the Colt 602 it was tightened to a 1:12 ratio. Which did not change until the A2 platform (1:7) due to the new SS109 62gr bullets needing more stability.
jaym762 3 weeks ago
@beencaughstealin 1:14 twist is ridiculous. 1:7 is good for the heavier bullets, 1:8 is good for the usual 55gr
TheWomboCombo 2 weeks ago
@beencaughstealin It's definately 1:7 there guy, if it were 1:14, you wouldn't be able to hit shit past like 200m
lakerimff 2 weeks ago
@beencaughstealin military rifles are 1:7 twist.
thegoods34 2 weeks ago
@beencaughstealin it says right on the barrel before the flash suppressor. Nato 1:7
jts1991 5 days ago
@beencaughstealin AR-15's/M16's/M4's are 1:7 twists. That fact is beyond simple to check yourself. It seems your ARMY armorers are idiots who lie to cover up their own lack of knowledge. If you like throwing out creds then I was a Marine infantryman who did a spell in the armory(against my will) and have been shooting AR's for most of my life which includes BUILDING several from scratch. Tho you CAN get them in others. Most common are 1:7,1:8,1:9
eliminshrintar 4 days ago 2
@eliminshrintar So we wanna pull rank here and start dick measuring? Bottom line is just ask the manufacturer, I think they know a little more than any "rank"
agenthelios1 3 days ago
@beencaughstealin It was 1:14, 1:12 before they went with a faster twist rate to stabilize the heavier tracer round.
bigjohnymac08 1 day ago
@beencaughstealin i believe the 1:14 twist was on the first m16's, they've been decreasing the twist ever since the first variant
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@scuds03 Depending on the variant you are both right, they used 1:7 and 1:14 and even 1:12 twists on their barrels. Wikipedia that shit I just did :)
DystruktoBoi1 1 month ago
@scuds03 Its Right hand twist 1/7 Read it FM 3-22.9 AIRBORNE(SSG.)
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
@scuds03 this is probably really random but do you reckon a 30-06 kicks much more than a 308 if anything at all?
BAZYLBRUSH 3 weeks ago
@BAZYLBRUSH I've shot both. I own a Savage Model 10 in 308 and my buddy has a few rifles in 30-06, I can't tell any difference in the recoil. I'm sure they are a little different but its negligable.
scuds03 3 weeks ago
@scuds03 do u know much about the recoil in the 270?
BAZYLBRUSH 3 weeks ago
@BAZYLBRUSH I shot a guys 270 at the range and seriously the recoil is NOT worth it..the recoil was very sharp and hard. After 5 rounds my shoulder was sore. I'm just saying there are too many other cheaper calibers out there that do just as well both ballistically and terminally to justify going with the 270.
scuds03 3 weeks ago
@scuds03 ok awesome so what would you recommend? i want something powerful but not massive recoil u know?
BAZYLBRUSH 3 weeks ago
@BAZYLBRUSH i have a 270 mossberg and the recoil is not bad if your use to shooting lower calibers than it will take time for you to be very accurate but after you shoot it a few times its awesome.
ford351mod 2 weeks ago
@scuds03 and Been-
You're both right, as far as I've read. Earlier A1 M16s had a less extreme twist rate (1-14" I think?) than A2 and M4's. Heavier tracers aren't stabilized in A1's and are only used so in a pinch, from what I read. Hell, I could be wrong but I don't think either of you are wrong either.
boardfu 3 weeks ago
@scuds03 older m16/m4 had 1:14 twist. Read it in several published books i bought while building my first AR.
kbent88 2 weeks ago
@scuds03 my vote gets the 1:7
dkkhoward 1 week ago
WOAHHHHHHHHHHH!
Mryellowdeen 1 month ago
Shit, man, that's the last time I'm going tent camping in THOSE woods.
billville111 1 month ago
very nice AR you got.
379peterbilt530 1 month ago
wow whats that...... are they bouncing of the hill or something....... damn
RiaGuy 1 month ago
Another lefty comrade. Thanks for the post.
pasky2112 1 month ago
did that last round riccochet off a tree? looked weird :)
nj4ck 1 month ago
Okay this sounds dumb but did I see the third bullet fly up and to the right?
Buttnut105 1 month ago
cool so your neighbor's dog is dead now..
RealPilotFSX 1 month ago
im left handed, but whats wierd is, i shoot rifles with my right, but shoot handguns with my left, is anyone like that?
immapopcha 1 month ago
@immapopcha i write left, shoot rifles left or right (slightly better lefty) and connot for the life of me hold a pistol 2handed in my right hand.... one handed is fine but i just can't place the second hand right lol
chubbs636 1 month ago
Man, what a beautiful gun.
durkadurka91 1 month ago
ya take that trees
i bet those trees wont be bothering you anymore
evoldevildogs 1 month ago
looks like a good enough backstop to me.
picinpark 1 month ago
did you see that spin-off!! holy smokes
BNAHUlVl 1 month ago
what kind of gun is that?
volsman80 2 months ago
@volsman80 DPMS AR-15 .223
beencaughstealin 2 months ago
@beencaughstealin if its a 223 how yu shooting 556
jay4201203461003 1 month ago
@jay4201203461003 same size rounds .223(civilian) 5.56x45(military)
MRAXWEDBAF 1 month ago
i like that the dislike bar is like a REDNECK on a green body
pjps27 2 months ago
Why do the bullets shirk in weird directions in the woods? Does that mean that they hit the ground? Also, I've been seeing alot of these tracer bullet videos and it seems they have increased bullet drop. Does the tracer have anything to do with this, or does bullet drop affect bullets THAT much.
xXJEashXx 2 months ago
@xXJEashXx That is the actuall drop of the bullet, bullets arch like that.
243usmc 2 months ago
shooting left handed is so wierd
rkb12222 2 months ago 7
@rkb12222 I do most things right handed, but I am left eye dominant.
beencaughstealin 2 months ago 4
@rkb12222 lefty is awesome! Well, maybe for me, since i am blind in my right eye! Awesome tracers!
Jesus4Shred 2 months ago
@rkb12222 it sucks being a lefty, sometimes. Everything is made for right-handed people.
plechatam 1 month ago
that was cool lol bullets bounce like crazy.
trigun890 2 months ago
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SpokenTruf 3 months ago
Why the government has the right to tell us what firearms to own I will never understand.
je25ff 3 months ago
@je25ff ....Politicans tell lies and create fear, that in turn generates job security because they 'find soultions' to the hysteria they create. Guns, crime, taxes, the newest Bad Guy ETC ETC.
vorevox 3 months ago
@vorevox You are absolutely correct. It's not limited to one side of the aisle or the other; all politicians need some sort of emergency in order to get reelected, whether it's gun control, marajuana, abortion, war, etc.
millenniumf1138 2 months ago
jeez, firing into the woods... find a proper backstop
clutchcrazy888 3 months ago 2
@clutchcrazy888 There is a hill in those woods, thanks for your astute internet advice.
beencaughstealin 3 months ago 31
@beencaughstealin True, but you have a HOUSE downrange. THAT is unsafe... BTW, you can set the trees on fire. I've done it before WITH and WITHOUT tracers on night fire excercises ARMY side.
TallLittleElf 1 month ago
@beencaughstealin Not to mention that a small patch of forest is easily enough to stop any bullet as long as you don't shoot over it.
hzuiel 1 month ago
@clutchcrazy888 Theres plenty of trees there to stop a bullet.
ariskk88 2 months ago
What camera are you using? The quality is excellent!
etucker5007 3 months ago
@etucker5007 HD FLIP
beencaughstealin 3 months ago
The bullet is so wayward
airsoftmurder12 3 months ago
At the end of twelve seconds, the tracer round drops dramatically and glows for a moment followed by a loud yelp. WTF did you hit? Lmao
OfLastingThunder 3 months ago
can you please explain to me why the bullet goes straight then all of a sudden it becomes extremely unpredictable? thanks
mrUMMbongo 3 months ago
thank god for rednecks....nice gun btw how bad did those tracers dirty up your gun? just wondering.
chineseacidtrip 3 months ago
@chineseacidtrip They don't make it to dirty but I've never shot more than 5 with out a full tear down/cleaning.
beencaughstealin 3 months ago
@beencaughstealin thats whats up how has that XD from your other videos treated you
chineseacidtrip 3 months ago
@chineseacidtrip I love my XD, most accurate pistol I've ever shot. I have a Viridian laser/light combo on it too.
beencaughstealin 3 months ago
@beencaughstealin I've fired numerous tracer rounds out of an M16A2 and never found them to gunk up the weapon any more so than regular rounds.
oneaburns 3 months ago
@beencaughstealin
What zombie pale,so what?
SHOCCTROOP 3 months ago
F*ck this races peace of shit any one can own guns idiot .
CALIPAINTBALLER 4 months ago
@CALIPAINTBALLER *racist
Thanks for your comment!
beencaughstealin 4 months ago
@CALIPAINTBALLER Except Nazis no one likes Nazis. (Nazis are not classified as Germans)
ZombieHunter19 4 months ago
firing tracers at a forest, very intelligent.
PatTheRiot 4 months ago
@PatTheRiot Almost as intelligent as flaming on youtube
beencaughstealin 4 months ago 5
@beencaughstealin was that a heartagram tattoo
XxsmigglyxX 4 months ago
@beencaughstealin Black?
Perogi360 4 months ago
he probably stole this gun too
BAYAREA4150 4 months ago
@lHustonProductionsl Haha i want too, fire season aint over yet though... XD
snowboarddude117 4 months ago
@lHustonProductionsl Well then you sir had one shitty gun, no offense, but I have 2 .223's (well one with a .223 chamber and one with a 5.56) both with 1:9" twists and they will shoot 75 grain bullets, none to accurate but enough accuracy to hit milk jugs at 250 yards (never shot farther than that so far) If i remember correctly the 865's are 64 grain? so they should be well inside of the 1:9" twists weight range.
snowboarddude117 4 months ago
@lHustonProductionsl No they wont fly that random
snowboarddude117 4 months ago
press 5, whats that scream man?! looks like the tracer round hits something on the ground
Johnny6586 5 months ago
what brand?
npredrider 5 months ago
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shut up brat
xraidedlok 7 months ago
it looked like they all started to fly around right when they got the same distance away. was that them hitting stuff in the distance or do they lose reliability at that distance?
Ibly31 10 months ago
@Ibly31 they lost reliability, some of them shoot consistently while others shoot wildly
beencaughstealin 9 months ago
It was him.
JackstandJohnny 10 months ago
Who was that that yelled OHHH
meirwinadt 11 months ago