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  • FAQ says it does allow cover saves.

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  • and then my grey knights came,

    and they powneD!!!

  • Just played a game over the weekend and dropped my doom next to a 10 man Termi squad and killed half of them but my actual attack scattered 12" so that's all my doom managed to do. I have a battle report of that game up on my channel.

  • doom got faq'd so hitler can stop bitching :(

  • This video accurately depicts exactly why, after playing this game since it debuted in 1988, I quit. A terrible game with terrible rules...

  • DOOM OF MALAN' TAI RULZ

  • @Lucifer1332

    yes, i do rule

  • @doomofmalantai

    lol boss screenname. if i knew better, i shouldve done deathleaper.

  • I posted a video about Hitler hating on 'nids too. Except I said he played IG though.

  • fortunately the FAQ covers this

  • "those competitive virgins", lol so funny.

  • this was really fucking funny i lollled!!! soooo hard at this =) 

  • Fuckin imperial guard should be subject to a Hitler rant. never mind the DoM.

  • Haha love it when he says "any one playing Imperial Gaurd, Spacemarines or spacewolves leave the room" then every one leaves bar about 3, sounds about right!!! LOL

  • epic video

    I was playing a 1500 point game and lost around 1200-1300 points to the Doom of Malantai

  • lol, Hitler have Games Workshop's ear, they nerfed the Doom hard!

  • I guessed GW listened to Hitler and nerfed the Doom. XD

  • lol hitlers from tanith he said fething.

  • HA!

    I loved that final line.

    GW, please take charge.

  • the solution to doom of malanti is easy for both my armies :P either put 15 heavy gauss blaster bolts into it from 36 inches away or havve my 2 manticores fire and hope i wipe it out with that or my deathstrike, if those dont kill it i hope enjoys first rank fire second rank fire :p. exsecaily if i go with conscripts, 10 first rank fire second rank fires, that 2400 shots in total :P oh and my list has at the moment broken the game lol

  • @minipancho94 you forget one horrible factor you can stuff it in a mycetic spore and its abilitys kick in right away the moment it reaches the battle field so bring your necrons and your guard if the Doom doesnt get you the REST will...

  • And yet, Eldar still pwn tyranids easier than any other army

  • lol GW still hasnt faq'ed tyranids and they so desperately need to be

  • Lets join the greater good mr hitler ^^

  • lol

  • 'AND IT ONLY COST 90 POINTS !" xD

  • I can't stand doom, but he really is very fun and challenging to play against him. Luckily I play blood angels :)

  • doom=cheese

  • Just you wait until my Necrons get their new Codex...yes, one-shot/glancing kills on vehicles will return, and as the enemies of all living things, we should be anathema to the Tyranids. Time will tell. We've already waited 60 million years...time is on our side.

  • yep thats funny s***! the Doom is awsome but it does have its weaknesses nothing and thunder hammer/lascannon wont cure hell even bright lances and starcannons work so i dont forsee the problems heres the real funny bit...

    wait until hitler hears that it can take a mycetic spore for 40 pts lol!!!

  • This is the funniest thing i've seen all week!

  • he mad?

  • Oh no!!!! Hitler plays Eldar!!!

  • anything str8 can deal with it. RAILGUN TO THE FACE.... usually works.

  • lol he's not broken. you can just bolter him and he'll die. hell you can just missile him oh look you fail. he's dead lol

  • It's a fairly easy ruling. I don't see the issues, really. It can hit embarked units, and they get no cover save. Everyone is overreacting to this single Elite unit. It has T4 and no Eternal Warrior. There are dozens of weapons that can insta-kill this guy, and since you only get 1 in a unit, he's fried. Also, there's a TON of psyker hate out there. Sisters and Gray Wolves laugh at this. Psy-hoods laugh too. Yes, this is a good unit, but broken? LOL. Tyranids + no Eternal Warrior = :-(

  • I love how the Nid players complain when they get the Doom, a cheesey unit.

    But did the Space Wolves players complain when they got Jaws of the World Wolf? Not to mention the fact that they can have it on 4 different guys? No, course they didn't.

  • lol, so true, the imperials are literally space nazis who likes to commit genocides and racial hates.

  • HERESY!!!!

  • @Aderath No he doesnt.

    @trurealest He was a zoanphrope that wiped out a eldar craftworld called Malantai. Im not exatly sure whether he solo'd the craftworld itself but the tyranids seems that it can.

  • does the doom have eternal warrior?

  • Just build yourself an Emperor Class Titan.

    Doom of what?????

  • Marines have the answer, at least in Apocalypse games......

  • Come to that, Marines have the answer, period.

  • fucken lol'd at hitlers first comment.

  • hahaha! love this.

  • gw better fix this problem before a war or something is started over this rule

  • Woot Hitler plays Eldar!

  • eldar suck nids rock

  • Gold, pity the losers at GW who hardly ever respond to rules questions will get it all wrong!

  • I play Eldar too.... I almost pity Hitler for that comment... Luckily Doom is only Toughness 4.

  • with a 3+ invulnerable save though....

  • Yeah but give him enough S 8 weapons and he will fail.

  • not the way my local nid player rolls, Ive yet to kill the damn thing despite hammering it with multimeltas repeatedly in 2 seperate games and despite my efforts its wiped out about 2/3 of my army :P

  • @locutus9956 it's good but the minute you fail one you're gone. On the good side is that it's only 90 points.

  • I'd arque that the Doom can't affect units in transports because they aren't physically on the table (same reason why units in transports can't hold objectives), but yeah, it indeed doesn't allow cover saves. It's not that nasty if you kill it before it can suck up a lot of wounds tho.

  • @NomicFin How come Chaos can use icons inside rhinos? Or teleport homers?

  • Troops in transports do count as scoring. Look at the very last sentence at the bottom of page 90 in the main rulebook.

  • Heh awesome video with an amusing point. How i love being a Nid. best new codex ever! :D

  • that's pretty much my reaction too. As if my Tau don't get they'er asses handed to them enough by nephew's Tyranids...

  • Seen a few of these hilters goes nuts videos ... but this one strikes a cord. Nice work!

  • phil kelly ftw

  • I am not gonna get stuck in the argument. But instead complement the creator of the video,

    Great job, I really enjoyed it 5 stars and subscribed! :)

  • Codex: Wallbangers is your source for some of the most sloppily written rules in 40k history, and the shittiest fluff ever.

    Durr hur hur Doom of Malantai walks into the infinity circuit while delivering the mail. It's not like the infinity circuit of a craftworld would be heavily defended, right?

    Durrr hururur hur Orks are "slaughtered like cattle." It's not like they're good at fighting?

    DUURRR the Tyranids are slaughtered yet "their numbers grew."

  • Not quite so good when you understand German....

  • LOL

  • wow that was fricking epic

  • this proves not only its true that everyone loves phil kelly but hes a $*&$ing awesome writer

  • Codex Creep is a bitch...

  • Hitler plays Eldar? XD

  • you would have htaught he would play chaos

  • or at least dark eldar.

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  • A simple but really effective video!

    Also funny! :D

  • That's fantastic, nice work done this :)

  • Good lord this is hilarious!

  • hahahahhahahahhhhahahahahahaha­hahhahahahahahahahaahahahhhhhh­hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahah­hahahahahahahahah

  • HOLY SHIT YES PLOX!

  • lmfao

  • The best Downfall spoof I've seen. First class!

  • This video is amazingly funny but it's really annoying to watch when you speak German.

  • cant wait to get to play agienst the new tyranids.

    with the new bloodangels :)

  • Actually, I think Witch Hunters are next. GW already removed their codex off the main site.

  • @rba718

    Blood Angels have been confirmed by GW for April.

  • idot its blood angels

  • lol idot

  • @rba718

    As much as I want Witch Hunters next, BA are, it's been confirmed. Witch Hunters have had some progress made in R&D but they're probably coming out Winter '10/'11 at earliest. Not to mention the possibility of a shit merged codex :( WH are a ways away.

    Which sucks because I need to play perfect to compete with these new codices, and even then, I'm in tough to win.

  • Yeah I know I'm just trying to keep my hopes up.

    I feel you bro, I need to field a crap ton of tanks n 2-3 exorcists to get anywhere. I even played against a nasty cheese space marines army today and I had to play my ass off just to work a tie for round 5 with 7 models left vs half a space marine army.

    They better not get rid of my faith points when the new codex does come out, lol.

  • @rba718

    Sadly, I can see a return to the 2nd edition Sisters of battle "Rites" that you roll for each faithful unit to see which abilities they get. You know, to "make it interesting".

    Not to mention a simplification of the armory is assured, which probably means nerfing the book. We'll get some extra HQs at the cost of faith points and customization, with the good odds of Repentia/Arcoflags/Penitents/I­nquisitors still sucking. Plus removal of allies, which is obviously going to happen.

  • WELCOME TO THE HELL THAT IT HAS BEEN PLAYING IG FOR THE PAST 3 EDITIONS. We have ALWAYS had to play "perfectly" and still face the occasional defeat to a cheesy rule.

  • @RexTalon Yeah, prior to picking the WH army I played with my friend's spare army of IG, which was Vostroyan themed. They were kickass, but I didn't win once in the five or so games I played with them. Was really tough, even with the fact I didn't know all the rules and IG strategy. I just knew they had powerful mustaches.

    I'm glad IG got a revamp in 5th though, it was needed, much like Brettonia/Ogres/Tomb Kings need one in WFB, and how WH/DH/DE/Necron need updating in 40k.

  • Help us, Phil Kelly. You're our only hope.

  • lol

  • hitler

  • nids do not get feel no pain

  • there's this thing called a tervigon. It's awesome.

  • Ajac's throwing hammer + Jaws of the world wolf.

    If nids are going to play cheap, so am I!

    Kiss your TMCs goodbye!

  • Terigon's Catalyst Psychic power can give units feel no pain for a better explantion.

  • @monpoc40000 get feel no pain don't get feel no pain what does hitler know? he plays eldar roffle

  • "They'll probably be banned at adepticon!"

    "Don't cry, they'll be allowed."

    I almost pee'd my pants.

  • wicked , i just kacked my power armour!!

  • lol, hitler is an eldar player, I thought he would be a space marine player, with the whole Nazi super men thing, like in the simpsons.

  • Great! And how true... "If you are playing Space Marines, Imperial Guard or Space Wolves - leave..." :p

  • this is copied, months before exactly this scene was created with adolf hitler getting his wow account banned :D the text there was much funnier :D

  • dude, these hitler videos are a youtube culture, there are dozens of them, type hitler into the search and you'll find this same scene with different subtitles loads of times, they're so funny :D

  • true! would have fittet much better :DDD

  • This video deserves to be called EPIC!

  • Very funny. And even with moronic subtitles, the actor is really impressive.

  • I haven't laughed so much in ages. Inspired!

  • GW broke this game, the focus it's no more the game it's the miniatures.

  • My neighbors probably think I'm insane I laughed so hard at this...

  • omg. fell of my chair laughing!

    nazi= eldar - this makes perfect sense!

    all stuck up ass holes who think they are better than every one else!haha XD

  • on that aspect, yes i agree. the thing that makes them worse than Nazis is that they doomed their civilization by their own desires and not by a solitary man's decision AND they had the technology to stop themselves!

  • Nazis were not "a solitary man". Hitler was elected by the popular support of Germany, it was not one guy who did all that evil.

  • This is the funniest thing I've seen for a long while! I just love the the text mentions Cruddance at the same time Hitler talks about Stalin (in german), and the way almost everybody leaves the room when Space Marine, Space Wolves and Imperial guard players are asked to leave. I just wish I would have thought of this first, ha, ha. Great Stuff!!

  • This was hilarious XD

  • You can tell Gerbills plays Necrons, he always looks pissed.

  • This is brilliant.

  • Hitler plays Eldar! XD

    best version of this meme yet

  • best use of this scene EVER, made me lol-thanks

  • Hilter said fething. He must be from Tanith.

  • Funny, but it's also valid.

  • @ Troll:

    I disagree. We have huge "defrolla" level issues numbering over a dozen. Wolves was mostly dealing with furious charge, counter assault, etc... you could still plan your list. Nids have no idea how this army will play until the faq.

  • Wow, a couple of good units, the rest of our new codex was utter crap compared to the previous 5th ed armies.

    Can we have Churchill pointing at the monstrous creature's points costs angrily? XD

  • The space wolf codex had more rules issues then the nid one.

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  • Silly Hitler.

    Nids get no invuln save. 99% of nids have no grenades. They are not immune to instant death. MCs are rediculously overcosted. "the Doom" could be twice as powerful and the nids are still uber nerfed. Most eldar lists should wreck them.

  • I agree with the general consensus that Phil Kelly should have wrote the dex but i dont think the doom is really thats dangerous, maybe a little undercost, but the aura is only 6" if your grouped that bad its destroying you, you didnt really have a hope anyways

  • Mycetic spore it.

  • I never thought I would say this but: I agree with Hitler! ...in this video xD

    I wish Phil Kelly (or Andy Chambers had he been still with GW) had wrote it. GW has long since lost ALL touch with the community, and every move they make nowadays seems more irrational than the last.

  • voted one for bad spelling

  • true dat

  • LMFAO Brillient!!

  • Awesome.

    ... even though I play Eldar :D

  • Codices.

    Their.

  • @AbusePuppy if I could give this post 500 thumbs up, I would

  • I figured Hitler would play Eldar.

  • this vid is in my top 5 of the best things ive ever seen on youtube. pure genius. well done.

  • Fecking brilliant! :D

  • amazing!!! :D

  • Words cannot describe how awesome this is. Simply amazing, more please!

  • This is amazing and funny.

  • I knew Hitler was an Eldar player!

  • Should send this to Gee-dub.

  • let me recommend something. Roll chaos. enough said.

    P.S. Keep your Landraiders away from Zoans.. trust me!

  • Pure unadulterated Win!

  • Oh my god... This is hilarious. +5 stars. Faved. Worshipped. You, sir, have made my day...

    Now to go convert my Doom of Malantai...

  • Doesn't doom also had any unsaved wounds to enemies to its own wounds profile?

    That's pretty damn nuts.

  • And a shooting attack with 24' range, AP1, the big template and a strenght equivalent to its current wounds. Though, it automatically loses D3 wounds after using that.

    Personally,I give a resounding Meh. My infantry-centric Guard army has enough firepower to atomise the bugger in short order if it comes close. 3+ invul save? Meh, I can throw enough shots at it.

  • If it didn't have that 3+ Invulnerable spraying it down would be a lot easier though with Guard you'll probably have the best shot at it lol.

  • Well, my normal 1k points list has just a bit more than 80 models, so yeah, spraying is definitely an option.

    Though, I still miss my doctrines. Having an infatry-centric army with the carapace armor doctrine and playing primarily city-fighting made for an incredibly resiliant force. You try killing up to 120 models with 4+ armor and cover saves in 6 turns. Especially given that I tended to be very aggressive. Charge my line? Well, every squad nearby charges in and the attackers get dogpiled.

  • Even by the time you'll have shot him, he'll have used Spirit Leech twice. Once in his shooting phase, the other in yours. and he'll have used a large blast.

    Also, line of sight to your troops can be blocked by using the spore.

    Also, when you're shooting it that's one less shot that your Tyrant/Tervigon is taking.

    It's not the Doom itself that's broken, it's what you can do with it, and what it takes to kill such a cheap model.

  • No, he won't have used it twice, because nobody with two working braincells will leave anything in 6 inches after having a movement phase.

    It's not exactly broken. It's usefulm it's pretty much one of the strongest things in the list if abused. But frankly, it's not broken.

  • Oh, okay, move your men and render about 1/4 of your armies shooting obselete. Even if you did move (And mess up any firing line you had established) he still gets his large blast. Heavy Weapons Teams go bye bye? I think so.

    I agree, it's not as broken as people say, but it is borderline if you know what I mean?

  • That comment directed at me?

    Oh, I assumed anyone with knowledge of 40k was not a complete twat. I was gravely mistaken. The nerve that you randomly come on, without an argument, call me a retard and then insinuate that all Nid players are hated is just testiment to your own failing as a person.

    Grow up.

    I've seen Doom being used and not be broken, instead being an easy killpoint.

    I've also seen it decimate armies.

    So it's how you use it that makes it broken.

    So thinkk before you talk.

  • .....no? There's two possible scenarios the way I normally deploy my infantry. Either he'll be faced with barely anything outside the transports or with them, in loose formation, covering enough ground that depp-striking in close enough to get several squads is almost bound to get him a roll on the misjump chart if he deviates. And frankly, anyone who doesn't always put the HW teams into cover is simply stupid. 4+ helps quite a way against someone wasting a high strenght template on T3 models.

  • Not how that works with a Mycetic Spore, it just moves the minimum distance to avoid you, so you're boned there.

    Well those T3 models can do alot of damage, it's about taking out the threats. Any player who'd rather shoot a Chimera with a guard squad then a team of 3 Lascannons deserves to get shot. So, I'd rather take out your heavy weapons teams. As such, it is not wasting. Taking out tanks? That's what the Zoanthropes are for. A Jack of All Trades? That's the Doom.

  • doom doesnt work on imbarked troops...

  • Says who?

    Have you seen an FAQ saying otherwise? Because I sure as hell haven't, the closest thing we've had to an FAQ is the Adepticon one which stated that the Doom CAN affect units in transport.

  • hahahahahahahahhahahaha

  • You really do need to take into account how much nids have lost.

  • @FistOFun

    Like what? One list archtype? Please.

  • @Mattstanley75

    To be fair :

    well lets see ,

    no more instant death immunity on ANYTHING , no living ammunition which rerolls to wound anymore on MOST guns ,

    no more idepentant brood units (like Zoans that can deploy and act sepertly) and Carnis and most stuff now have to bunch up to work as a brood , no more Invunrable saves on Tyrants (how ridicilious that a SM Chapter master can be immune to Instant death and has a IN save where a 30 feet tall head of a bug army has non of the above ?)

  • Ar least Carnifexes are still cheap.

    Oh, wait, nevermind. They're not.

    Really, I can't see why people complain about the new Tyranids, specially not after those über IG Veterans and Vendettas.

  • The Emperor protects.

  • That living ammunition was always a jewel especially on those Devourers. Imagine firing 30 something shots off warriors and re-rolling hits and wounds AND you could give them wings.

    Though they still get wings, that basic Devourer set up is gone now.

  • @Mattstanley75

    No more assult greneades (Flesh hooks) not even on stealers , hey now lets all stay in cover and wait for them and thier 5+ SAVE ,

    No more stat upgrades , T7 carnis , (come on 40 points to BUY a 2+ SAVE for a tyrant and 60 points for wings ?? give me a break) No more beast on Hormoguants , no more fleet on most things , no more charging Lictors when they come in DAM do you want me to continue the dam list cuase im using most of the word limit already

  • At first the Trigon's deep strike and burrowing tunnel seemed nice. I went up against it last night.

    We were doing corners 2 objectives, and the guy pops a Trigon right in the middle of my deployment area and then brought some Stealers in. Trigon went down in one turn but then 30 Hormagaunts came out of the tunnel.

    You'd probably think this would be nuts, but no, my Witch Hunters' flamers still work nicely.

  • True my ass to the people who says its true , have you played with the army yet ? they lost so many in return of gaining a few good things about the new dex

    dont wine just becuase you think theres an army who you think is better than yours while it really isnt

  • ID is the best way to bring it down. Unfortunately it has a a 3+ Invulnerable save; making it very inconsistent to kill it.

    It could shake off 5 or 6 demolisher shells or it might die from a single Rocket launcher.