What Werner did was say that only the individual mattered..........that's funny I have never heard Werner say anything remotely related to this statement in all my time watching footage of him nor have I heard him imply this, I have also taken some classes with Landmark and they haven't mentioned that either.
If anything its the exact opposite, they always talk about serving other people and making a difference for them at Landmark.
@TwoMunchuTwo No, the things Werner is saying are true,
the footage of people being physically assaulted which is interspersed with Werners interview is cheap and misleading (since Werner never touched anyone like that....ever) and the guys quote at the end where he says est was all about being selfish is bullshit.
This has nothing to do with what est was about - people took responsibility for themselves and were focused on making a difference in the world and their relationships - ala - the Hunger Project - Breakthrough Foundation - and all the work thousands have done because of their experience of the Werner's work. Whoever made this video obviously never did the work or was directly involved. The editing is extremely misleading..
One thing that's worth mentioning: there's all this crazy footage that's being played here while the narrator talks about Est, but the footage isn't actually est; it's some other program, Exegesis.
Does anyone know of anything like EST this day and age.
Landmark, good as it is seems Very Very watered down.
I want find something that will really push me to the limit and no self help group, cult, or course, I have done this far will go as far down the rabbit hole as I want to go or have already gone.
this is a mixture of videos that have nothing to do with est or what happened. It wasn't all about the individual - Jesse K never did the training and had no idea what was going on. This video is very scewed - I was there from 1971 - 1985 - the outside view is distorted.
What Werner did was say that only the individual mattered..........that's funny I have never heard Werner say anything remotely related to this statement in all my time watching footage of him nor have I heard him imply this, I have also taken some classes with Landmark and they haven't mentioned that either.
If anything its the exact opposite, they always talk about serving other people and making a difference for them at Landmark.
This guy is talking complete bullshit.
Crebralassassin 1 week ago
Let me see if I get this right. Werner never said this so Werner isn't Werner?
This is Werner Erhard interviewed by Adam Curtis in his documentary The Century of the Self,
TwoMunchuTwo 1 week ago
@TwoMunchuTwo No, the things Werner is saying are true,
the footage of people being physically assaulted which is interspersed with Werners interview is cheap and misleading (since Werner never touched anyone like that....ever) and the guys quote at the end where he says est was all about being selfish is bullshit.
Crebralassassin 1 week ago
This has nothing to do with what est was about - people took responsibility for themselves and were focused on making a difference in the world and their relationships - ala - the Hunger Project - Breakthrough Foundation - and all the work thousands have done because of their experience of the Werner's work. Whoever made this video obviously never did the work or was directly involved. The editing is extremely misleading..
palbere 1 month ago
One thing that's worth mentioning: there's all this crazy footage that's being played here while the narrator talks about Est, but the footage isn't actually est; it's some other program, Exegesis.
UMin183 3 months ago
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UMin183 3 months ago
Does anyone know of anything like EST this day and age.
Landmark, good as it is seems Very Very watered down.
I want find something that will really push me to the limit and no self help group, cult, or course, I have done this far will go as far down the rabbit hole as I want to go or have already gone.
RedTailedTuna 10 months ago
this is a mixture of videos that have nothing to do with est or what happened. It wasn't all about the individual - Jesse K never did the training and had no idea what was going on. This video is very scewed - I was there from 1971 - 1985 - the outside view is distorted.
palbere 1 year ago