He just said that Kiss didn't know that that they were offered the stuff, it was done by their business Manager and this Business Manager never told Kiss about it so somehow years later Kiss found out about it and wanted it back because the customs were from their early days. That business manager is or was a scum
Bill Aucoin and his boyfriend were the brains behind kiss. Without Bill and Sean Delaney there would be no KISS. Ever! Do a google search for Sean Delaney and see what pops up. You'll be amazed. Rest in peace, Bill.
the fbi commited a crime when they abused their power to confiscate the stuff in the possession of fans. no one did anything illegal to obtain the old costumes. kiss went out of their way to also rip off photographers of video content and photographs. paul and gene violated the fans rights. plain and simple.
gene and paul lied to fbi officers in detroit who went to people's homes, went to photographers and conventions and confiscated items they had no right to and violated many people's rights. kiss did not own any of the stuff they took from fans. all those items were legally obtained via the auction of the stuff in the warehouse...
bill is not telling all the facts. he is leaving out a few pieces to the story. fact is fbi agents went out and confiscated items from fans... they had no right doing that but fell to the starstruck meeting of mr. simmons and his money bags.
I worked with Bill in 1971 on the television production of "Oh Calcutta. Bill was the director and I was the editor. He was a young and talented director in 1971 before the discovery of "KISS". He went on to much bigger and better things. The crew at Tele Tape Studios remembers you fondly. Rest in piece Bill.
I worked with Bill in 1971 on the television production of "Oh Calcutta. Bill was the director and I was the editor. He was a young and talented director in 1971 before the discovery of "KISS". He went on to much bigger and better things. The crew at Tele Tape Studios remembers you fondly. Rest in piece Bill.
For all you people who are saying that Paul & Gene had no right to that stuff, pay attention to the story Bill tells here, because what he is basically saying is that the only thing HE owned was the warehouse where all the costumes were being stored. The actual costumes and such belonged to Gene & Paul. The Kiss conventions that were being run in the late 80's-early 90's were illegal. And the business manager that Bill speaks of wound up robbing Gene & Paul of millions of dollars during his stay
Let it be known that anyone who has been privately video taped by mr. Aucoin. The video tapes have all been destroyed and will never surface in any way. This was done by me to protect anyone who could have potentially been compromised by there release.
@OllyJollyOrange whats becoming a christian got to do with being able to rest in peace? Doesnt matter if you are a Hebrew, Christan, pagan or a muslim.
@Norum86 there are only two places he could be right now.. heaven or hell. Hell is a place of torment, a waiting place until judment day.. how could anyone rest there? and since Jesus, the Prince of Peace isn't there, can't be any peace there either.
He could be in Heaven.. but he would have had to recieve pardon from the day of judgment by accepting Christ as his savior... did he?
@OllyJollyOrange whatever image of the afterlife people have, its nothing proved. Throughout the centuries, the Church was brainwashing people into what they thought would be the best imagine of an "afterlife" to accept. And islam is even worse when it comes to brainwashing people.
This was very strange, I was on youtube and for some reason, I type in his obscure name,
dont know why, thats when I discovered he died, In High School we use to always say his namebecause we knew him as the guy who was the brains behind KISS. A real straight looking guy in a suit wearing glasses. he was just as cool as the other KISS guys because his name was all over the records and all the stuff they put out.
kiss never knew about this stuff being sold the way it was, they had every right to take back what was legally their property, weather you bought it or not, its theirs and they had every right to take it back. just for the record kiss doesnt need you as fans, they are still filling stadiums !!!!
@Warchief01 Fuck you KISS is among the many bands that loved their fans and they know if it wasn't for fans there is no KISS.Thats why even being old they still give us more action.Sure there is the money too but they don't need it.KISS had earned a plenty load over their 35 year reign.
@ShockGod16 Fuck me?I don't think so.You should have been in San Fransi sco or New York last saturday if that's you'r thing.Hell you couldn't have found a bigger kiss fan than me from 74 to 2000.When Paul came out and said they didn't need the original fans anymore they had a whole new group of fans that did it for me.Those two pricks wouldn't have taken a damned thing i bought and paid for.He bought it had a bill of sale and they refused it when offered to them.He would have won in court easy.
@deuce1231 I doubt if you will find it now but it was a statement he made on kissonline when you could still post comments on there.So many people were raising hell over thayer and singer dressing as Peter and Ace.It was a long drawn out statement he made but he did make it.If not i wouldn't say it.I was an original fan from 73 so i took that personal that he would say that about us.I defended Kiss through everything.I even like the Elder.I am the source. I read it.
I just can't believe how they could do this.. Same with Bill Bakes stuff, right?! He received Ace's costumes in person from him & some other stuff as a gift for fixing his guitars.. & when he appeared at the conventions he was thrightened by Gene & Paul to come take the stuff ... Really weird. And kind of rude of G & P.. the fans made them what they are and to get something so valueble woud mean the world to a fan! I doubt the money crazy kiss duo wouldn't care at all except for the money
kiss tricked fbi agents into commiting this illegal confiscation they took personal items from fans, took costumes that were legally bought from the sale of the warehouse. kiss pulled a complete scam... gene simmons knew and ripped these people off anyway.
Bill Aucoin was a pretty visionary guy at the beginning of Kiss' career. He did so much to get them to break big in the US. Too bad how it all played out all the way around.
@robertnobody Hey fuck you man don't make comments on things you don't know.Paul,Gene admits and knows they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Bill.They love Bill and he has been a part of KISS since the beginning and Bill has never missed any concert since until his illness took over.Paul and Gene knows now that a part of them is gone and they have stated it.Don't you ever think they want to steal all the glory KISS is a band that had lost many friends but kept going on in their names.
yeah,I used to be a loyal fan, now When kiss is questioned about their extremly high ticket prices they basically say "if you can't afford it ,fuck off,No longer a fan
i dont gettit....they were offered the stuff and turned it down, but when the people who NOW own the stuff put it on display, NOW all of a sudden they want it back.......its like an ex wanting to get back with you and you say no, but when you see them with someone else, THEN you want them back all of a sudden.....
@mattkissband yea pretty much, just like u said it. i believe they knew they could make $ off of by having their own kiss convention on the road u know, like charging ppl. u know how gene is.
that's bullshit. i wish gene and paul weren't such lame motherfuckers, because i used to love kiss. who the fuck does that to their fans? what shitheads.
1:17 is very telling: "..they [didn't] wanna pay for it..." So they went crying to their lawyers and got 'em back for close-to free.
To quote Ace Frehley, "They're dirty rotten whores."
BuzzcutGtr 3 months ago
He just said that Kiss didn't know that that they were offered the stuff, it was done by their business Manager and this Business Manager never told Kiss about it so somehow years later Kiss found out about it and wanted it back because the customs were from their early days. That business manager is or was a scum
Ilovedthe70s76 4 months ago
look at hes toung !!! he is a illuminati reptile..demon possessed..
Kimindigo 6 months ago
Bill Aucoin and his boyfriend were the brains behind kiss. Without Bill and Sean Delaney there would be no KISS. Ever! Do a google search for Sean Delaney and see what pops up. You'll be amazed. Rest in peace, Bill.
sophiapuppy 1 year ago 2
the fbi commited a crime when they abused their power to confiscate the stuff in the possession of fans. no one did anything illegal to obtain the old costumes. kiss went out of their way to also rip off photographers of video content and photographs. paul and gene violated the fans rights. plain and simple.
edwardprzydzial 1 year ago
@edwardprzydzial Yeah, well Gene does that often!!
winter9020 9 months ago
@edwardprzydzial Try and stop Kiss with their money and their Lawyers go and try it asshole
Ilovedthe70s76 4 months ago
gene and paul lied to fbi officers in detroit who went to people's homes, went to photographers and conventions and confiscated items they had no right to and violated many people's rights. kiss did not own any of the stuff they took from fans. all those items were legally obtained via the auction of the stuff in the warehouse...
edwardprzydzial 1 year ago
bill is not telling all the facts. he is leaving out a few pieces to the story. fact is fbi agents went out and confiscated items from fans... they had no right doing that but fell to the starstruck meeting of mr. simmons and his money bags.
edwardprzydzial 1 year ago
oj simpson las vegas robbery anyone?
MichaelHansenFUN 1 year ago
Gene Simmons is the anti-Lennon. All Gene cares about is green. Same with Stanley Eisen.
mikedonn71 1 year ago
@mikedonn71 who cares
rich52569 7 months ago
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I worked with Bill in 1971 on the television production of "Oh Calcutta. Bill was the director and I was the editor. He was a young and talented director in 1971 before the discovery of "KISS". He went on to much bigger and better things. The crew at Tele Tape Studios remembers you fondly. Rest in piece Bill.
Frank Herold
herold94 1 year ago
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I worked with Bill in 1971 on the television production of "Oh Calcutta. Bill was the director and I was the editor. He was a young and talented director in 1971 before the discovery of "KISS". He went on to much bigger and better things. The crew at Tele Tape Studios remembers you fondly. Rest in piece Bill.
Frank Herold
herold94 1 year ago
For all you people who are saying that Paul & Gene had no right to that stuff, pay attention to the story Bill tells here, because what he is basically saying is that the only thing HE owned was the warehouse where all the costumes were being stored. The actual costumes and such belonged to Gene & Paul. The Kiss conventions that were being run in the late 80's-early 90's were illegal. And the business manager that Bill speaks of wound up robbing Gene & Paul of millions of dollars during his stay
romeokid69 1 year ago
Let it be known that anyone who has been privately video taped by mr. Aucoin. The video tapes have all been destroyed and will never surface in any way. This was done by me to protect anyone who could have potentially been compromised by there release.
Thanks
CHONGOBOOB 1 year ago 2
wish I could say he was resting in peace... but I havent heard that he became a Christian or anything.
OllyJollyOrange 1 year ago
@OllyJollyOrange whats becoming a christian got to do with being able to rest in peace? Doesnt matter if you are a Hebrew, Christan, pagan or a muslim.
Norum86 1 year ago
@Norum86 there are only two places he could be right now.. heaven or hell. Hell is a place of torment, a waiting place until judment day.. how could anyone rest there? and since Jesus, the Prince of Peace isn't there, can't be any peace there either.
He could be in Heaven.. but he would have had to recieve pardon from the day of judgment by accepting Christ as his savior... did he?
OllyJollyOrange 1 year ago
@OllyJollyOrange whatever image of the afterlife people have, its nothing proved. Throughout the centuries, the Church was brainwashing people into what they thought would be the best imagine of an "afterlife" to accept. And islam is even worse when it comes to brainwashing people.
Norum86 1 year ago
This was very strange, I was on youtube and for some reason, I type in his obscure name,
dont know why, thats when I discovered he died, In High School we use to always say his namebecause we knew him as the guy who was the brains behind KISS. A real straight looking guy in a suit wearing glasses. he was just as cool as the other KISS guys because his name was all over the records and all the stuff they put out.
ErictheACKACKTOR 1 year ago
@ErictheACKACKTOR Yes but as we all know, Bill was GAY!
Hadn't heard he's passed away! Sorry to hear!
He MADE KISS what it was, not what it is today!
ace69er 1 year ago
You will be forever in my heart. Thank you for changing my life. Can't stop crying. RIP
Umkanorth 1 year ago
R.I.P. Bill
ajaxrules1975 1 year ago
R.I.P Bill Aucoin. Thanks for your wonderfull work!
Eveneiedeg 1 year ago
RIP
KMH4021 1 year ago
RIP Bill. I'll miss you. J. Frank
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Kissrockguy 1 year ago
R.I.P Bill!
Bgkgtjh 1 year ago
kiss never knew about this stuff being sold the way it was, they had every right to take back what was legally their property, weather you bought it or not, its theirs and they had every right to take it back. just for the record kiss doesnt need you as fans, they are still filling stadiums !!!!
mammo8369 1 year ago
From that point on Paul and Gene didn't give a shit about the fans anymore.
Warchief01 1 year ago
@Warchief01 Fuck you KISS is among the many bands that loved their fans and they know if it wasn't for fans there is no KISS.Thats why even being old they still give us more action.Sure there is the money too but they don't need it.KISS had earned a plenty load over their 35 year reign.
ShockGod16 1 year ago
@ShockGod16 Fuck me?I don't think so.You should have been in San Fransi sco or New York last saturday if that's you'r thing.Hell you couldn't have found a bigger kiss fan than me from 74 to 2000.When Paul came out and said they didn't need the original fans anymore they had a whole new group of fans that did it for me.Those two pricks wouldn't have taken a damned thing i bought and paid for.He bought it had a bill of sale and they refused it when offered to them.He would have won in court easy.
Warchief01 1 year ago 4
@Warchief01 You said: "When Paul came out and said they didn't need the original fans anymore they had a whole new group of fans that did it for me."
I guess I don't quite get it.
Enlighten me as to when this was supposedly said with a credible source, please. And I stress the word "credible."
It's so sad that so many KISS fans are disgruntled over what they think they heard or read years ago from unrelaibe sources.
deuce1231 1 year ago
@deuce1231 I doubt if you will find it now but it was a statement he made on kissonline when you could still post comments on there.So many people were raising hell over thayer and singer dressing as Peter and Ace.It was a long drawn out statement he made but he did make it.If not i wouldn't say it.I was an original fan from 73 so i took that personal that he would say that about us.I defended Kiss through everything.I even like the Elder.I am the source. I read it.
Warchief01 1 year ago
Bill Aucoin is my idol. I think he is genius in his field. Wish him all the health & luck in the Univerce and easy, happy life!
Umkanorth 1 year ago
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Eveneiedeg 1 year ago
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Eveneiedeg 1 year ago
exactly,they realised there was money in it,,,oh lets go get it back,,,
barclosed 1 year ago
I just can't believe how they could do this.. Same with Bill Bakes stuff, right?! He received Ace's costumes in person from him & some other stuff as a gift for fixing his guitars.. & when he appeared at the conventions he was thrightened by Gene & Paul to come take the stuff ... Really weird. And kind of rude of G & P.. the fans made them what they are and to get something so valueble woud mean the world to a fan! I doubt the money crazy kiss duo wouldn't care at all except for the money
AustreGirl 2 years ago
kiss tricked fbi agents into commiting this illegal confiscation they took personal items from fans, took costumes that were legally bought from the sale of the warehouse. kiss pulled a complete scam... gene simmons knew and ripped these people off anyway.
edwardprzydzial 2 years ago
so win they showed up there they just took some kiss collectors wasnt gene or pauls to take back it belong to that collector
ben80s08 2 years ago
Bill Aucoin was a pretty visionary guy at the beginning of Kiss' career. He did so much to get them to break big in the US. Too bad how it all played out all the way around.
einaroneeye 2 years ago
The BUSINESS MANAGERS said no. Bill himself suspects KISS was never told about it.
BlackDiamond1967 2 years ago
Just saw KISS three nights ago for 60 bucks, and that's a mid-range ticket. Wouldn't exactly call that "expensive"
BlackDiamond1967 2 years ago
NO BILL AUCOIN>>>>NO KISS!!!!
gfrkiss 2 years ago 10
Without Bill...NO KISS!!!!!
gfrkiss 2 years ago
Nice interview, Bill Aucoin made KISS, although they will never admit that.
It was his belief in the concept and his money that he invested to get them going.
Gene and Paul like to take all the credit, but that is not true. Without Aucoin the world would have never heard of KISS.
robertnobody 2 years ago 4
@robertnobody Hey fuck you man don't make comments on things you don't know.Paul,Gene admits and knows they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Bill.They love Bill and he has been a part of KISS since the beginning and Bill has never missed any concert since until his illness took over.Paul and Gene knows now that a part of them is gone and they have stated it.Don't you ever think they want to steal all the glory KISS is a band that had lost many friends but kept going on in their names.
ShockGod16 1 year ago
yeah,I used to be a loyal fan, now When kiss is questioned about their extremly high ticket prices they basically say "if you can't afford it ,fuck off,No longer a fan
bassgod1963 2 years ago
I agree, and it's not even the original line-up, who cares, they can shove it....
skeptic91 2 years ago
i dont gettit....they were offered the stuff and turned it down, but when the people who NOW own the stuff put it on display, NOW all of a sudden they want it back.......its like an ex wanting to get back with you and you say no, but when you see them with someone else, THEN you want them back all of a sudden.....
mattkissband 2 years ago 16
@mattkissband yea pretty much, just like u said it. i believe they knew they could make $ off of by having their own kiss convention on the road u know, like charging ppl. u know how gene is.
believin13 1 year ago
@mattkissband They saw the conventions taking off and money being made. The urge to have all power and control took off again.
Warchief01 1 year ago
@mattkissband Well man,thats Gene & Paul for ya...right?
AlphaOrange75 1 year ago
that's bullshit. i wish gene and paul weren't such lame motherfuckers, because i used to love kiss. who the fuck does that to their fans? what shitheads.
YouAre256ColoursToo 3 years ago 5
From what year is this?Bill still looks good!And to think he is now the manager of the KISS copy band Lordi.
Necramoniumvideo 3 years ago