A nice speech for a 10 year old but uh how old is this guy?
CELEBRITY BLACKOUT !!!
DAMMIT BLACKOUT ALL CELEBS WHO DONT GOT BALLS TO USE THEIR CELEBRITY STATUS TO SUPPORT RON PAUL OR LET THEM SAY WHY THEY DONT SUPPORT HIM AT THE LEAST SO WE KNOW ;)
DONT WATCH THEIR STUFF EVEN IF ITS FOR FREE
THEY MADE ENUFF BUCKS OFF US THOSE STINKIN CELEBS AND NOW THEYRE SILENT?
He's talking to his constituents like they're children. I used to like this guy a long time ago but the last few years, everytime I hear him he disappoints me. Typical career politician.
umm...even Ron Paul recognizes the need to operate WITHIN the two-party system. As you'll recall, he ran as a Republican candidate. So he'd likely disagree with your approach (and your radical stance on 9/11 as I infer it to be by your username).
I'm a Ron Paul fan; and I hope you realize throwing your vote away on a 3rd party candidate isn't proving a point to anyone. We have to *steer* this big ship toward liberty. And voting Republican is your only effective way to steer in that direction.
First off, regarding 911. Demanding major Unanswered questions is not "a radical stance"
The republican party still remains corrupt to the core, same as the dems and unless we get someone in like ron paul. Someone who will actually vote with the constitution in mind and not be in the pocket of the corporations. (Like the original Republicans) then we need a third party..
I wasn't 18 so I couldn't vote, but i did regrettably serve Obama. I would never ever ever do something like that again. I ask for forgiveness for my sins.
Shut up Graham. it sounds like to me like Linsey Graham is jealous of Ron Paul with all time he mentions him. We already had 8 years of your parties politics and they didn't work either. RON PAUL REVOLUTION!!!!
The two party system supports eachother, it's no longer secret. They are like two wings on the same bird. Promises, promises. after they loot the country. They think we the people are stupid. this guy is a Fool. Ron Paul cured my apathy!
Ronald Reagan was Goldwater Republican. I am tired of these people abusing Ronald Reagan's name and legacy, and I am tired of them abusing the platform of Liberty and Personal Responsibility and the Constitution like it was their own.
Truth is Ronald Reagan was the most Libertarian President we ever elected.
But now we are supposed to just shut up and vote the party line. Wrong. The fringes control the elections. We are done playing this game. Start to listen or continue to fail.
He's right. The party is to corrupt for Ron Paul to be the leader of it. If they get rid of people like him and clean it up, then Ron Paul could be the leader of it!
its too bad we dont have open public forums where these guys have to answer questions from the people in person and on live TV. Because if we did, it would be impossible to discredit Ron Paul. Id like to know exactly what issues mr. graham agrees with Ron Paul. Because to me, everything Dr. Paul says is right on the money(no pun intended) . And if he doesnt think he should be the leader of the party, then who?? Because I dont trust anyone else.
If the GOP would get rid of asses like Graham, Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly, people could start to take them seriously. These one trick ponies STILL believe that their old "give to the rich & It will trickle down" shit will work, even though it NEVER HAS. We don't need Bigger Govt...we need Govt that WORKS! During the Bush years, no Govt Dept from FEMA to the FBI worked in harmony. Each jealously guarded their information to get "atta-boys", and we all suffered! Make them CO-OPERATE!!
The future of Republican conservatism is dead, they've moved to the left. The future of the Republican party is Collin Powell. Ronald Reagan conservatism as it was known is now labeled as extremist and dangerous to the politically evolutionary progress of the nation.
In another video, he foolishly talks about how we need to get libertarians out of the republican party. He also says "we're not going to build this party around libertarian ideas." He finishes by saying he's like Ronald Reagan.
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism" ~ Ronald Reagan.
Lindsey Graham is a lying, uneducated, neo-conservative douche.
Senator Graham is another good old boy Neocon. Building the empire and picking and choosing what he chooses from the constitution.
The republican party don't get it. It's all about true conservatism.
Not the party of trickle down and I hope I get a drip. True consertive republicans want to give the freedom to Americans and the states to build their own wealth without the oppression of both the middle of the road republicans and socialist democrats.
Who is this asshole to complain about all of the spending? Didn't he vote for the first stimulus package? The answer is.... YES. In this clip he basically said he could care less for the constitution. South Carolina, please vote for a: constitutionalist, pro individual rights, libertarian/Republican. It will only benefit your state and your country.
Such venomous words against Ron Paul supporters. I could just as easily call you a zombie of the modern media. Treating government-funded books as if they're flawless. Because we all know that government will admit its mistakes if it leads to distrust.
And onto Somalia. They're suffering right now because of international interventionism and constant warfare. You cannot compare the results of Somalia to the potential of America.
Now take a look at how far modern "wisdom" has gotten us.
When every single Ron Paul fan uses the same laughable strawmen, I start feeling contempt for them.
For instance now you respond to the fact that dr Paul defended STATE LAWS enforcing segregation, by saying that businesses ought to have the right to discriminate. Look the past comments and see that every single paultard has said this. The issue is about STATE LAWS, NOT BUSINESS POLICY.
Ron Paul is NOT a true libertarian. He defends TYRANNY in states level. He is a fascist in disguise.
The same is true for his pals at von mises institute. They are racist reactionary crooks that are fundamentaly antidemocratic, by their own admission.
And austrian 'school' of economics is like marxism:PURE BLIND IDEOLOGY.When they reject the totality of scientific method and lie exclusively on the so called 'introspection' to study the economy,it takes no genious to get that these people are nothing but witch doctors.
You don't know if Lew Rockwell is right, you HAVE FAITH he is.You ARE flock.
Our current government-corporate partnerships have worked out real nice, right? Everything we've done so far has been perfect, hasn't it?
Ron Paul is talking about weakening federal power. I doubt there are any states where racism would win over and make new segregation laws.
I have believed that the government should have less power long before I heard about Ron Paul. With an over-expanded government (esp. executive), you get things like the Patriot Act and Mandatory Youth Service.
You are still fail to address ANY of the issues I brought up.
You only remotely imply that you hope that Ron Paul's defense of segregation state policies will fail to take hold, so he's acceptable option.
If you scrap the federal gov't, who will enforce the constitution he supposedly loves? You fail to get that the "states' rights" position that Paul advocates, means state gov'ts with unlimited liberty to be as oppresive as they opt IS tyranny and fundamentaly STATIST.
Historicaly states' rights was an argument for states to exercise their liberty to abolish free speech, violate the sovereignity of other states, to use paramilitary thugs to commit voter fraud and intimidation of the population, to characterise a portion of the population as inferior, to engage in slavery, to replace the democratic gov't with an aristocratic one.
If you don't like Patriot Act, Ron Paul is certainly NOT your candidate.Contrary to his demagogic whine,he'll scrap ALL your rights
As a matter of fact I have indeed looked closely at Paul's voting record and it explains a lot. Including why all the white suppremacists and neonazis (including Don Black of Stormfront, Alex Linder of VNN, Bill White) support him wholeheartedly; he has NEVER betrayed their issues. Even in just symbolic votes. Even if he had to vote FOR federal gov't intervention to satisfy them.
Is seems that these peoples vision for america 'curiously' coincides with Ron Pauls agenda of "freedom".
Have YOU bothered to read about their methodology?They reject BOTH mathematics AND empirical data as valid methods to study economy and instead opt for 'introspection'.
If you reject math and data you are left only with metaphysics.That's why they ARE witch doctors.
And flat earth theories were defeated by data and maths. So the flat earther here is you.
And your assertion that your ideology will be mainstream one day is really reminiscent of Khurshcev asserting the same for his own ideology.
The Austrian's refusal to use observation has to do with the fact that economic transactions have so many factors that one cannot know or understand them all.
Those arrogant enough to think they can understand them all will come up with ridiculous theories (i.e. mainstream Keynsian view that a recession requires govt spending).
Please feel free to suggest a school of economic thought that describes the economy better than the Austrian school - I highly doubt you will be able to do this.
A great deal of natural phenomena are complex and are controlled by a huge number of factors. That is from meteorological to neurophysiological ones.They do their best using the SCIENTIFIC method to built a mathematical model using their current data. On the way of the endeavor you fix or even replace it in the light of new data.
What people DON'T do is introducing metaphysical entities because of the percieved difficulties(i.e. knowledge by 'intropection')
And your assertion that there is no theory better that the Austrian school shaman thing is laughable.One additional reason that they don't like empirical evidence is because when their theories are applied in REAL world they fail miserably.See Somalia.The excuses I've heard up to now by your comrades are that the private development cannot initialize because of lack of (state made-haha) infrastructure or that the utterly unregulated power struggles led to a civil war that prohibited development.
OK so if the Austrian school of thought is inferior, please enlighten me on a more accurate school of economics.
Like I said, you probably won't find one.
The smartest Ivy league economists from Harvard, Princeton, etc... working in the Federal Reserve and elsewhere had no clue of the coming financial collapse. In fact, they were touting how the system had been cured of systemic risk and that all was great in the world. Apparently their math and data failed them miserably.
Maybe they failed to predict what was happening because you can't use math and data to predict human economic behavior. Its like trying to solve schizophrenia with algebra.
The Austrians were well aware of what was happening -just read up on Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Lew Rockwell, and many others.
psst....the world is round, give up your outdated economic theories.
But we didn't find that the earth is round using "introspection".
Obviously, you are too illiterate to be acquainted with even the most fundamental epistemological notions. That's why you think that metaphysics (i.e. ANYTHING outside empical evidence and/or maths) can be legitimate source of knowledge. And why you sadly invoke the same type of arguements that creationists use against science.
If you want to be part of the racist, neoconfederate cult that Lew Rockwell has built, go ahead.
And yes, all current treatements for e.g. schizophrenia have been attained using the scientific method. The way current research is done depends on data from diverse fields AND complex mathematical tools.
If you don't like it, opt for your nearest scientology center. They too find that mental phenomena are too big and awesome to be explained with data and 'algebra'.
And correct me if i am wrong, but wasn't Greenspan a raging objectivist dismissed by academics as a blind ideologue? Duh...
Enough philosophizing, the fact is the Austrian school of economics provides an understanding of the economy and the effects of monetary policy and govt interventions. You can actually use these theories to predict an outcome. The fact that history has proven them right shows that whatever method they used to come up with their theories works.
You have yet to point me to any economic theories that provide and understanding of the economy better than the Austrian school.
And their theories DON'T work. That's why they REJECT empirical data as a source of knowledge. You are naive. And the fact that you expect me to learn your lazy ass PROPER ecomomics through youtube is quite telling. As I said the world and especially the economy is too complex to be explained with one-liners. If you can't deal with it, good luck with your economic religion. Continue chanting "all hail to lew rockwell" ,"death to the democraticaly elected gov'ts, the root of all problems"
Sorry that the public education system has failed you. I have so many issues with your last comment that I can't possibly address them in the remaining character count.
The govt should do what it was designed to do as a servant of the people, in a nutshell that is to protect the liberties of the people and protect our country from foreign invasion. Adhering to our constitution would be a good start.
If you enjoy central planning and wealth distribution/theft head over to N. Korea or Cuba.
Lew Rockwell and von Mises people give a damn about the constitution and the people? Don't make me laugh.
Ok they do worship the tenth amendment (they would love to use it as an excuse to bring back racial segregation), but appart from that they are not in good terms with half of the document.
And they love SOO much the people's will & rights. That's why they have repeadedly dissed democracy as fundamentaly 'ochlocratic' civic system.
They are reactionary and authoritarian demagogues. Wake up.
And who told anything about centraly planned economy?(and who told anything about obama, geithner etc?)
Nice try there fighting strawmen. Every paultard is a "glorious" champion against strawmen.
And realize that because they chant the word 'constitution' it DOESN'T mean they give a damn about it. Get a clear mind, ditch the paultard hivemind, do bother -at last- to read the f*ing document, compare it with their positions and get out of the cult.
Did you not type the following implying our current govt is great:
"Continue chanting "all hail to lew rockwell"
,"death to the democraticaly elected gov'ts, the root of all problems" "
In case you haven't noticed our current govt is socialist. They believe in centrally planning just about everything from what I can tell. Just like you they are arrogant enough to think that a few people know what is best for the whole.
I've read the constitution, it is you who has failed to understand it
Have you read the second article? Have you read the 14th amendment? The 15th? The 16th? What do you think of them? Because Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell openly attack them.
My emphasis was apparently on von Mises people dissing of DEMOCRATIC governments. Your assumption that this phrase even remotely implies centraly planned economy is ridiculous. But you peopla are known for desperatly seeking every tiny opportunity to throw a strawman...
The 1st, 4th and 5th amendment were clearly violated during the past administration and the current administration says "let's look forward". Did Lew Rockwell do anything more than assigning a lackey to mildly complain about it in his blog? Because other people DID do a lot of things. And the memos were not released because of Lew Rockwell.
All these people care about is the 10th amendment and posse comitatus.Because their vision of libery is libery to become autocrats of their local community.
If anything, they have not focused on past administration's violations due to the relentless barrage of unconstitutional behavior from the current adminisration -thereby leaving them with little energy to devote to previous administrations violations which they addressed at the time. And I know they had many issues with the Bush administration.
And that last statement about their desire to be autocrats is complete BS and is in complete opposition to everything I've heard and read from them.
The obama administration has made a lot of blunders but the contitution was RAPED from the past one.The seperation of powers, the suspension of habeas corpus, of right to privacy or fair trial are the most prominent.Whoever loves the constitution should fight to see persecutions to avert establishment of precedent.
Would you be kind enough to point out the SPECIFIC text in the constitution that policies introduced by current administration are violating?I am sure the violations are far more.
And when i say that they are autocrats, I am not saying it randomly. Notice that, while they fiercly oppose the federal state, they aggresively promote the expansion of powers of states beyond the checks and balances of the "evil federal gov't".
The states' rights in their view admittedly INCLUDES freedom for states to discriminate based on race. Lew Rockwell describes himself as 'confederate'. Is this constitutional? They say 10th amendment(of course), I say14th.
Treatments, how about the root cause? Math and empirical data have not yet led anyone to the root cause of schizophrenia. Do you see the similarities with understanding the economy? Algebra will likely not lead them to the root cause of schizophrenia or any other mental disorder
Sounds to me like you are one of those so called experts that believes he knows everything and in fact knows very little -just like Obama, Bernanke, Geithner etc. so called "experts" who are destroying our economy.
So if up to now we don't have an answer for schizophrenia we should drop science and turn to metaphysics?
That's why I told you that you speak like a creationist.
They too bash the scientific method and the sciences because they still struggle to find the truth about nature and for not being able to answer anything in two sentence answers.
They too decare hastily the game already lost and they point to their prophets who have got via revelation an one-sentence answer for everything .
If Dr Paul was leading the party they would still be in power. The republicans did everything they could to kick him to the curb. It is being a Contitutionalist that 36% of us "Indepenents" want. We don't want to elect people who will pick and chose what amendments they will keep safe for us. WE WANT THEM ALL KEPT SAFE. Dr Paul is the only one doing that. Mr Graham should wake up and see what Americans want. We want the federal government out of states rights & the Constitution to be followed.
The NeoCon-Fascists like Graham and the Democrat-Socialists like Pelosi & Reid are two sides of the SAME Constitution hating, oath ignoring, treasonous, Lincoln loving, central planning Statists coin.
NeoCons like Graham are KILLING the Republican Party!
They are truly Republicrats and the very reason why Freedom Loving people don't trust the federal gov't.
Guarding AGAINST their type of scum is the VERY reason we have the Bill of Rights!
How short a memory he has. Remember what happened to Senator McCain when he talked against Ron Paul during his presidential campaign (he lost the election big time). We can do the same for Linsey and pledge to not vote for him with the same results.
Ron Paul is the only politition that is truthfull and honest left in this country! He is my president. obama and lindsey and the rest of them literally can go to hell! Thanks.
Move over you piece of Good Ol' Boy shit, and let Ron Paul, a real American, Lead the way to freedom from all your moral bullshit! So tired of fat white southern ass holes!
It's hilarious this was even said, just goes to show you how WEAK and pathetic the Republican party is now that Ron Paul's message of truth and freedom (and the "Libertarian" views) are gaining momentum over their failed neocon experiments.
Reagan only got a fraction of the equation right (at least as far as accomplishments) so "Lindsey", your time has passed, get out of the way so Ron Paul can fix all the problems you and your even more statist friends (Dems) created.
The Republicans and Democrats = the same false left-right paradigm. Get beyond seeing people as labels and aimlessly fighting against each other. when both parties are part of the same problem
you're a douche bag. "I'm not a libertarian, I'm not a constitutional party republican, I don't support Ron Paul"....so you're a chicken hawk, neo con, fascist do whatever it takes to stay in power phony. PHONY!
I wish this guy and McCain would just go join the Democratic party and be done with it. Follow Specter out the door. These creeps are why I loath the Republican party. Ron Paul is logical, sensible, well-read, and extremely well-versed in the constitution. He's an anomaly for a politician, but he's most certainly the kind of politician we need.
At least Graham is realising that the Republican party CANNOT survive if it appeals only to white americans.
If you want the base of the republican party to be white suppremacists and an army of naive conspiracy theorists, you are driving this country to ONE PARTY system. And the culprits are you that push the party to the racist far-right.
Yeah but minorities don't appreciate white-supremacist, neoconfederate trash, like Ron Paul.
'Librerty' and 'individual rights' is a populist chant that means nothing to him. He is for permitting states restricting rights that are currently protected(and his excuse is that he is against the 'big federal government'. But,curiously, he is for the federal government banning abortion).
He ACTIVELY seeks support from white supremacists. And his voting record PROVES that he has NEVER betrayed them.
He is so much against the federal governent that CONSPONSORED a bill that gave $3,5 million federal money to the boyscouts, he recieved; but was the ONLY ONE to vote against honoring Rosa Parks that would cont almost nothing.
No wonder that Don Black of Stormfront, Alex Linder of VNN, David Duke, Bill White of American National Socialist Workers Party endorse and support him.
Honestly, it's about really giving a sh** about Rosa Parks, versus acting like it. What I mean is, if the people in Birmingham, the black people, the white people, whoever, really care about Parks, then pony up the money and make a statue or give her a medal or whatever. Don't spend my money when I personally think Parks had courage but I'm not about to donate money for statue for her nor would anyone I know do so. And that applies to a lot of historical figures too.
Rosa Parks medal costed nothing because the expenses were covered by replicas sold to the public.
Contrary, Ron Paul proposed HIMSELF (but failed) to spend 240 million federal $ to commemorate the 'heroes of the cold war'. Nevermind all the other federal $ he got the boyscout sillines & earmarks.
I guess winning the commies was awesome, but desegregation sucked.
I know that neither you or ron paul give a shit about rosa parks or civil rights. At least you admit that you are racist.
Did not say I am racist, I just said I would not donate any money to a statue of Parks. BTW, most people, if privately asked, would probably tell you to get lost if you asked money for a Rosa Parks statue, heck many Americans don't even know who she is... although that just shows the level of ignorance in the USA. All I'm saying is that desegregation, just like Rosa Parks' statue, is an object/idea imposed upon a people without them really believing in it.
Is abolition of slavery a manifestation of evil statism? It was IMPOSED by the government. People didn't necesarily believed in it
Is the bill of rights statism? It's imposed by the government. And i you haven't been sent to gitmo, perhaps you can't appreciate the value of e.g. habeas corpus, so who knows if it's good or not...
It seems that your idea of libertarianism includes the freedom of a mall owners to imprison indefinitelly suspect shoplifters.
And the fact that you, Ron Paul and his pals there at Ludwig von Mises don't see desegregation as the removal of government sponsored and imposed racism, reveals your profound racism.
Rosa Parks didn't fight to MAKE new rules;she fought to REMOVE rules i.e. jim crow laws. Segregation was imposed. And your failure to see it as such and your defence of the role of gov't to keep races segregated shows that you people are racist first and libertarians second.
Now we are finally getting somewhere sockpuppet. You stated that the government imposed Jim Crow; thus the government created the problem in the first place. They legislated what businesses had to do as to race and what individuals could and could not do. So really, they enacted unconstitutional legislation. But instead of just repealing those laws, the federal government went and actively used the courts, not Congress, to enable busing, new voting districts, etc...
They overreached, and guess what, people now hate each other more. Unintended consequences just keep piling up until the system will break, or we go and take over the damn thing.
11thsockpuppet why are yo racist aginst white peoples right to choose if they want to be segregated or not?
He is only saying he is not for segregation but also not for forced integration and racist laws like Affirmative action. He does not believe the government should be in people lives in these personal decisions.
"But us white people don't want to have blacks nearby. Why can't we have jim crow again? it is sooo unfair and 'unlibertarian'. It is almost unconstitutional (p.s. fuck 15th amendment)"
You are yet another Ron Paul fan that reads as if he posts at the stormfront site. I guess Ron Paul being 'best friends' with Don Black is not fruitless after all.
I knew that Paul was racist,but you people,with this line of defense,make him look as if he 's David Duke
White supremacist if that's what people who don't like the government telling me who I can hire, who I must rent to then so be it. I take the title white Supremacist with honor. Words like racist, supremacist no longer have a meaning any more, exspecially when a black racist is sitting in the white house.
Don Black friends with Ron Paul since when? If so then who cares? Al Sharpton is friends with Clinton.
ok. you are pretty clear and open about your 'pro-white' views and therefore indeed Lindsay Graham is certainly not your candidate; ron paul will serve your views better. Paul has proven that he always delivers in regards to 'prowhite' issues.
There was another instance of a republic that was dazzled by the promises of far-right demagogery during their economic recession. Yes.Weimar republic. But I guess you are elated by the prospect of such thing hapening to U.S as well.
People like you who throw the word supremacist around are the reason those type of words are losing influence. Paul hasn't been running on pro-white issues. He has been running on less government more freedom issues. Even if Paul was running on pro-white issues so what? Every politician black or non-black runs on pro-black issues, Obama ran on pro-black issues when addressing black crowds.
The economy is not going to become a Weimar republic. But the fact is our economy is drained.
So in your opinion defending STATE LAWS and STATE POLICY that sustain racial segregation is not white supremacism.
One has got to lynch half a dozen blacks to qualify as a white suppremacist, I assume.
You evaded the point regarding weimar republic. It was that far right demagogues exploited the 'drained' economy to rise to power. You all people prove that the same thing can happen here; the appeal of the far right was increased dramaticaly. I find this VERY scary.
Lynch? One black man can kill 50 white people, curse white people out on Tv, rape white woman, and still not be considered a black supremacist. The word supremacist no longer has a meaning, as it's only used against whites. By the way Lynchings were used agisnt whites also, people who were lynched were killers, and rapers. Don't like facts, eh.
I don't play into that game of being far-right or far-left. The far-left has been openly operating in America for years, now thats scary. The far-left with its open proud black, anti-white racist politicians have been openly open to Americans for sometime now. The far-right is only a reaction to the far-lefts out of control hate.
Why should white people pay taxes when we are not represented in government like blacks are? No taxation without representation.
You say the exact same arguments that SELF PROCLAIMED white supremacists use. I am not going to argue if they are wrong or right. Apparently, you want avoid the specific charged term to gain some credibility. But the arguments are THE SAME.
Regarding this 'disenfranchisement' rant you people whine,you are supposed to be barred from voting.Voting but failing to elect your candidate is NOT disenfranchisement.;It's how democracy works. Amazingly, you don't seem to get or like the democratic ways.
Honestly I don't want to earn anyone's credibility. I could really careless if one takes my understanding of things with a grain of salt.
Democarcy doesn't work when you have a media, and cash machine of global corporations operating against you. The media builds and shapes peoples thinking to hate or like what their corporate owners want from you. Sadly thats how modern American political and mainstream life works, the media creates and destroys who they like and don't like.
You say all the SAME arguments self proclamed white supremacists use BUT you whine about overuse of the term.
I say that you sound fundamentaly undemocratic,and you respond this wierd rant about corporations.
You mean that you missunderstand the democratic process because big media brainwash you?Or that you don't believe in democracy because it is unattainable?
And isn't your candidate (Ron Paul) all for THE FREEDOM OF CORPORATIONS?What do you whine about?
Again anti-white supremacist theres a reason why most countries do not allow media to favor any side in elections, because it's dangerous to the political process. In the UK all partys have to be given air time even the most un-popular, because if they weren't only the ones the media wanted you to see would be heard and known.
There is no demcracy when third partys are left out, when the media only allows you to pick from Dem or Rep.
And fool yourselves not. When he says less federal gov't and more freedom, what he means is fewer protections of the individual rights( that are guaranteed ONLY through the federal government) and more freedom NOT for the individuals, but for states and corporations. This means that Ron Paul wants liberty for the states and companies to be tyrannical if they opt so. 'And if you don't like it , you can move/work/buy elsewhere (if you can)'.
That's why the 'liberty' talk is vacuous demagogery.
I'm not moving any where America was founded with the idea that individual states came into the union, and that individual states have rights. I'm not leaving just because 230 years latter anti-constitutionist like your self think they can ignore the constitution.
If you don't like Americas constitution and prefer modern law makers to listen to what part of the consitution they like and what part they don't, then it's you who needs to leave
You know, Ron Paul is not the constitution personified. It is a FEDERAL (i know you hate this) legal document that has WORDS in it that you HAVE TO READ.
If you are to assert that revoking "state rights" on state endorsed racial discrimnation is unconstitutional, YOU HAVE TO CITE THE APPROPRIATE PASSAGE. Do it like this: "Jim Crow state laws are protected by the 14th and 15th amendment".
And lawmakers don't interpret the constitution; judges do. It is sad that you don't know even the basics.
First of all forced intergartion is unconstitutional. When did I ever say I am for jim crow? I said I'm against forced segregation but also am against forced integration. The government has no right telling people who they can hire, and who they must sell to.
And you have some nerve to talk, I bet you support racist laws like affirmative action. Ron Paul is standing up against government intrusion into our personal lives. You have no argument besides an anti-constitution arguement.
As always you roll back to the 'business rights' strawman. But previously you argued for STATE RIGHTS and all the issue is about Paul's beef against Rosa Parks and Paul's (and your) defense of jim crow laws.
You still haven't pointed a quote from my comments that is contrary to any SPECIFIC article of the constitution;you just 'bet stuff'. It is apparent that you have NEVER READ the constitution and that you ignore even the basic stuff about how gov't works. You seem proud of your ignorance.
First of off I don't like Rosa Parks or MLK etheir does that mean I support Jim Crow? No.
You make no sense, and is blinded by political correctness and anti-white hate. Fortunatley for me I wasn't brought up in a back-bending politically correct house hold.
And because of that I see whats right and wrong with America. People like you ignore the constitution. The consititution says none of the freedoms granted by the constitution should be infringed upon, that includes state right's.
Ok. Before mentioning the constitution again, do me a favor. Do bother to read it first. Because you sound like a moron repeating the same vague inanity about me ignoring it (WHICH PART, YOU RETARD?) and "states' rights being infringed" (we fought a civil war for your racist 'state rights', REMEMBER?).
It repeat that your candidate, Ron Paul, eventhough he claims he 'embodies' the constitution, half of the stuff he wants are AGAINST the constitution. (e.g. article 1, 14th,15th,16th amendment).
And when you whine about STATE RIGHTS on race issues, the issue is NOT liberty for businesses to discriminate. You are refering to the freedom for the states to establish state endorsed racial discrimination i.e. jim crow type laws if they opt so.
If you had ever read the constitution you would know that these kind of state righs are UNCONSTITUTIONAL
If you cannot get this, I am sorry but this is not a matter of a gap in our political positions; it is a matter that you are mentaly inadequate.
I'm sorry but you're reading alot of propaganda. A confederacy movement doesn't automatically equate to racism. Race wasn't the real reason they separated.
Anyways, to solve the problem of the constitution they simply left the Union.
Forced integration in the workforce is recognizing that there's a difference between people because of the color of their skin. So... it's racist. It also causes a problem for places with more people of one skin color than another.
And tell me what does the us constitution say about birthright citizenship and what Ron Paul's opinion is.His views on taxation&abortion are also uncosntitutional (i know;there are conspirators amending it).His animosity against all federal laws is unconstitutional(the CONSTITUTION dictates to HAVE a congress and assigns it A ROLE i.e. to make laws)
I believe that's pretty clear who cares about the constitution and who uses merely its name to gather votes and the document itself to wipe his ass.
When people take your money through income taxes that's a violation of your property rights. You know, the fruits of your labor is under that.
Abortion should be handled at the state level because support varies widely by state.
And how is disagreeing with a law unconstitutional? That sounds more likea dictatorship. If you want bigger gov't, then go to Cuba. See how well big gov't has treated them.
Or Europe with their socialized healthcare. Could get cancer and never get treated =\.
His proposed policies are unconstitutional; not the fact that he voices them. You present it like a 'freedom of speech' thing, because you are a moron that can't argue against anything but strawmen. (quite typical of ron paul zombies)
If you want to change the constitution, is ok by me. But you can't whine that you are the sole champion of constitution when you want half of it changed.
And his problem with the second article of the constitution makes him FUNDAMENTALLY ANTIDEMOCRATIC.
I'm sorry, but you worded it in a way that says opposition is unconstitutional.
And what would you propose we do with this economy? Continue these bailouts? lol. Allow government to take control of more businesses?
Look up Amtrak and see how well that has done. Nixon promised that in a few years it'd be doing so well that investors would be scrambling to get a piece of the business.
Government-run businesses never do as well as the private sector. Gov't is more corrupt than a
And i know that you Ron Paul zombies will dispute it at once, but it seems that somalia, the libertarian paradise that the von mises institute loves so much, isn't going that well.
In fact I would prefer being treated by the 'socialist' healthcare system of the swedes that the libertarian system of the somalis.
So yeah, if i get sick I will go to sweden and shun somalia. But what do I know. Professor paul and his flock sure know better.
another mind brainwashed by BET, public classrooms, and the media.
If you have 5 white men who have degrees for the field they're applying for and you can only hire 3 of them, that's racism.
And think if it were the other way around? If you had 5 black men who were qualified, then you could only hire 3. Because you need a diverse workforce.
And you don't see that as racism? That's a classic example of brainwashing
I suppose it would be okay if that happened to the white man (lol)
Go at Lew Rockwell's site and see what Paul himself writes there.Note also the generally neoconfederate talk of the people there.These people work with Paul closely and are actively engaged in his campaigns.
See his newsletters, his white separatist sponsors & his voting record.
See his constant lament about the vice of 'forced integration'. The poison he was spewing against Rosa Parks & MLK was because they fought for affirmative action or against the state sponsored racism of jim crow laws?
"Yeah but minorities don't appreciate white-supremacist, neoconfederate trash, like Ron Paul.
'Librerty' and 'individual rights' is a populist chant that means nothing to him. He is for permitting states restricting rights that are currently protected(and his excuse is that he is against the 'big federal government'. But,curiously, he is for the federal government banning abortion)."
All lies, not anything even anything resembling the truth.
Where does Ron Paul say he is for a Federal Level ban on Abortion? I understand the point - abortion is willful termination of life -(murder to some folks - just shrugging off useless skin to others). Show me where Ron Paul says that though.
He DID vote for ban in FEDERAL level of the so called "partial birth abortion". Yeah he moaned afterwards about the federal thing to appease his sheeple,but he DID want to give the federal gov't the authority.Note that the constitutionality of the law is hotly disputed, as it omits to offer exceptions in case of danger of woman's health.
On the main charge of racism and being apologist of the segregation, I see you don't have much to say...
I guess you are another one that finds all this swell
Forced integration or force segregation are both wrong from the viewpoint that we're allowing the Federal Government to coerce people's behavior. While it is noble to want to abolish racism you can't force people to behave. Ron Paul was not a racist for not supporting a statue and medal of honor for Rosa Parks. He refused to support spending US Tax dollars on something unconstitutional no matter how noble. He voted against it for Ronald Regan too as well as Arnold Palmer.
If you read again my comments you'll see that all the 'federal spending' argument is void.
How revoking STATE laws and STATE policy mandating racial segregation is WRONG? You people, as friends of the constitution ought to be the first to object.
The fact that so many Ron Paul people come forward to defend these pro segregation views is quite revealing. If you want to Push the GOP to that fringe direction, it is you that shred its(shrinking)credibility. In,effect you are Obama enablers.
Let's also agree to disagree on things that Ron Paul would not have as his top priorities in office. Bottom line here is that Ron Paul is the only man who has the courage to tell the Jews in Israel to take their AIPAC and shove it, and he's also the only guy who has the courage to say that 9/11 and other conflicts are unintended consequences of our foreign policy. He'll shut down the Empire and that's what I really care about. Just want to put it into perspective.
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Paultards are the most obedient of all sheep.
Now you'll claim that all the racist newsletters, all his speeches at racist conferences, all the support from hate groups, all the neoconfederate trash of his best pals from von mises institute spread, all the votes he has cast are still not enough evidence of the racist fringe he belongs.You'll claim that the establishment/nwo/etc conspire to hurt him and that rosa parks and mlk are his heroes because he said so on CNN.
It'd be nice if you were more faimiliar with his positions/material. There's a shitload of followers in his following, but the man isn't a racist. Goldwater was no racist, but he did get painted that way frequently; really doesn't surprise me that that is all you see of him as well.
I would rather fight to defend my home, family and state than betray them for the federal government... if that makes me a neoconfederate, then that's a compliment. Would any reasonable person disagree?
Ron Paul is undeniably a force to be reckoned with...most candidates just disappear off the scene, but he is here with us all the way through this thing and must be recognized by all. Cause we are right, we are going to win and they are scared.
Ron Paul will make the U.S. a libertarian paradise.
He'll make US like the free somalia; not like the oppressive communist sweden. (Don't worry about the blacks. His record proves that he'll make it a whites only somalia thing ;) )
How the hell annuling Jim Crow laws and desegregating U.S. is against the constitution? These laws where struck down as unconstitutional.
Seems that you as all the other Ron Paul flock think that he is the constitution personified.
For all the articles of the constitution he doesn't like he switches to the 'state rights +bad federal gov't' chant (e.g.14th ,15th, (+19th the von mises people) amendment) or invokes a wierd conspiracy theory that claims that the specific article is null (16th)
Telling anyone who criticises Ron Paul that hates the constitution shows how much cult-like devotion you have to this man.
This is very sad. And I bet you've never read the constitution. Else you'd know that the segregation issue is the one most revealing of Paul's ruthless hypocrisy and demagogery in presenting himself as the 'champion of the constitution'.
Looks like another puppet to me?Which way would you like your commy handed to you from the left or right.I dont want a dam thing handed to me from these crooks.
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberalsif we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom.
And by saying you're going to grow this party by sacrificing principles (the ones Ron Paul stands by, the constitution), shows that you will not grow the party and that the GOP is done for. There's an entire generation of people growing up either going liberal democrat or libertarian. The GOP generation will grow old and die with its replacement being a mixture of democrat and libertarian.
Ron Paul transcends party labels. He is the voice of truth and justice for all. Both parties are controlled by the globalist elite. The 2 party system is a sham...its one and the same. Ron Paul in 2012
ronald reagan endorsed ron paul for his congressional run in tx. back in the 80's. so i would thank that ronald regan is a ron paul supporter mr. grahm. so join the regan band wagon that he would ride not the wagon that all of these and including mr. grahm necons have made up.
I just barfed in my mouth. I don't know if I'm more disgusted by Graham's insincere, fake speech or the ignorant crowd that supports him. Let me remind why Republicans lost...Legalized torture, massive corporate fraud, illegal wars, Patriot Act, Military Commission Act, suspension of habeas corpus, record deficits, and list goes on...does this sound Republican? Get fooled once, shame on you, get fooled twice, time for tar and feather.
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A nice speech for a 10 year old but uh how old is this guy?
CELEBRITY BLACKOUT !!!
DAMMIT BLACKOUT ALL CELEBS WHO DONT GOT BALLS TO USE THEIR CELEBRITY STATUS TO SUPPORT RON PAUL OR LET THEM SAY WHY THEY DONT SUPPORT HIM AT THE LEAST SO WE KNOW ;)
DONT WATCH THEIR STUFF EVEN IF ITS FOR FREE
THEY MADE ENUFF BUCKS OFF US THOSE STINKIN CELEBS AND NOW THEYRE SILENT?
END THE FED OR FEED THE END :(
♥ RON PAUL ♥ WINS HEARTS NOT JUST VOTES
ashwadhwani 2 months ago
I'm curious, has this guy ever been married? Masculine he is not.
ONOdad 7 months ago
Ron Paul 2012
JojozDad209 10 months ago 2
fagg
tonyteb 1 year ago
He's talking to his constituents like they're children. I used to like this guy a long time ago but the last few years, everytime I hear him he disappoints me. Typical career politician.
MNskins10 1 year ago
He's got a lot of nerve talking about other people raising taxes when he supports Cap & Trade. Slimeball. Another Ron Paul supporter here.
infancysguard 2 years ago
He's just speaking his views like anybody.
spiralmetal 2 years ago
Typical red state republitarded bigot.
bhxinfected 2 years ago
The two party system is like 2 wings on the same bird.
I will never again vote for the lesser of two evils.
Legalize Freedom!
Go Ron Paul!!!!!!!!
911truthandjustice 2 years ago 3
umm...even Ron Paul recognizes the need to operate WITHIN the two-party system. As you'll recall, he ran as a Republican candidate. So he'd likely disagree with your approach (and your radical stance on 9/11 as I infer it to be by your username).
I'm a Ron Paul fan; and I hope you realize throwing your vote away on a 3rd party candidate isn't proving a point to anyone. We have to *steer* this big ship toward liberty. And voting Republican is your only effective way to steer in that direction.
jeffgough 2 years ago
First off, regarding 911. Demanding major Unanswered questions is not "a radical stance"
The republican party still remains corrupt to the core, same as the dems and unless we get someone in like ron paul. Someone who will actually vote with the constitution in mind and not be in the pocket of the corporations. (Like the original Republicans) then we need a third party..
911truthandjustice 2 years ago
I wasn't 18 so I couldn't vote, but i did regrettably serve Obama. I would never ever ever do something like that again. I ask for forgiveness for my sins.
alistairproductions 2 years ago
Shut up Graham. it sounds like to me like Linsey Graham is jealous of Ron Paul with all time he mentions him. We already had 8 years of your parties politics and they didn't work either. RON PAUL REVOLUTION!!!!
burningred2121 2 years ago 5
The two party system supports eachother, it's no longer secret. They are like two wings on the same bird. Promises, promises. after they loot the country. They think we the people are stupid. this guy is a Fool. Ron Paul cured my apathy!
Houseitch 2 years ago
Ronald Reagan was Goldwater Republican. I am tired of these people abusing Ronald Reagan's name and legacy, and I am tired of them abusing the platform of Liberty and Personal Responsibility and the Constitution like it was their own.
Truth is Ronald Reagan was the most Libertarian President we ever elected.
But now we are supposed to just shut up and vote the party line. Wrong. The fringes control the elections. We are done playing this game. Start to listen or continue to fail.
Electrichead64 2 years ago 2
Ronald Reagan ran up the deficit just like the rest of them.
SonicArchives 2 years ago
He's right. The party is to corrupt for Ron Paul to be the leader of it. If they get rid of people like him and clean it up, then Ron Paul could be the leader of it!
Irven51 2 years ago 3
Graham speaks the truth for once.
Ron Paul is not the leader of the hate-filled GOP.
Paul is a conservative, that's what I love about him. A No-nonsense, consistent, protector of freedom.
Graham? I believe this video was nothing more than him doing what my dog does..Peeing around the perimeter of his territory .
Thundercloud5000 2 years ago 6
fatass idiot
ndfootballch 2 years ago 3
No, Lindsey, Ron Paul is NOT the leader of your party......YET.
redhead761 2 years ago 4
its too bad we dont have open public forums where these guys have to answer questions from the people in person and on live TV. Because if we did, it would be impossible to discredit Ron Paul. Id like to know exactly what issues mr. graham agrees with Ron Paul. Because to me, everything Dr. Paul says is right on the money(no pun intended) . And if he doesnt think he should be the leader of the party, then who?? Because I dont trust anyone else.
thegreendome 2 years ago
If the GOP would get rid of asses like Graham, Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly, people could start to take them seriously. These one trick ponies STILL believe that their old "give to the rich & It will trickle down" shit will work, even though it NEVER HAS. We don't need Bigger Govt...we need Govt that WORKS! During the Bush years, no Govt Dept from FEMA to the FBI worked in harmony. Each jealously guarded their information to get "atta-boys", and we all suffered! Make them CO-OPERATE!!
redhead761 2 years ago
The future of Republican conservatism is dead, they've moved to the left. The future of the Republican party is Collin Powell. Ronald Reagan conservatism as it was known is now labeled as extremist and dangerous to the politically evolutionary progress of the nation.
matrxmax 2 years ago
" They just gotta feel welcome! And they will be, as long as they're not black, or gay, or like the Constitution!"
redhead761 2 years ago
In another video, he foolishly talks about how we need to get libertarians out of the republican party. He also says "we're not going to build this party around libertarian ideas." He finishes by saying he's like Ronald Reagan.
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism" ~ Ronald Reagan.
Lindsey Graham is a lying, uneducated, neo-conservative douche.
rcorbinnnn 2 years ago 9
Lindsy Graham is NWO Liar..Leave behind the Left ..Right Paradigm
factorniner 2 years ago
What a Turd Knocker.
GeorgiaPatriot41 2 years ago 2
Senator Graham is another good old boy Neocon. Building the empire and picking and choosing what he chooses from the constitution.
The republican party don't get it. It's all about true conservatism.
Not the party of trickle down and I hope I get a drip. True consertive republicans want to give the freedom to Americans and the states to build their own wealth without the oppression of both the middle of the road republicans and socialist democrats.
True conservatism in 2012
edward9145 2 years ago
Who is this asshole to complain about all of the spending? Didn't he vote for the first stimulus package? The answer is.... YES. In this clip he basically said he could care less for the constitution. South Carolina, please vote for a: constitutionalist, pro individual rights, libertarian/Republican. It will only benefit your state and your country.
Rand Paul 2010 & Ron Paul 2012
cartmanfan0316 2 years ago
Such venomous words against Ron Paul supporters. I could just as easily call you a zombie of the modern media. Treating government-funded books as if they're flawless. Because we all know that government will admit its mistakes if it leads to distrust.
And onto Somalia. They're suffering right now because of international interventionism and constant warfare. You cannot compare the results of Somalia to the potential of America.
Now take a look at how far modern "wisdom" has gotten us.
urokima 2 years ago
When every single Ron Paul fan uses the same laughable strawmen, I start feeling contempt for them.
For instance now you respond to the fact that dr Paul defended STATE LAWS enforcing segregation, by saying that businesses ought to have the right to discriminate. Look the past comments and see that every single paultard has said this. The issue is about STATE LAWS, NOT BUSINESS POLICY.
Ron Paul is NOT a true libertarian. He defends TYRANNY in states level. He is a fascist in disguise.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
The same is true for his pals at von mises institute. They are racist reactionary crooks that are fundamentaly antidemocratic, by their own admission.
And austrian 'school' of economics is like marxism:PURE BLIND IDEOLOGY.When they reject the totality of scientific method and lie exclusively on the so called 'introspection' to study the economy,it takes no genious to get that these people are nothing but witch doctors.
You don't know if Lew Rockwell is right, you HAVE FAITH he is.You ARE flock.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Our current government-corporate partnerships have worked out real nice, right? Everything we've done so far has been perfect, hasn't it?
Ron Paul is talking about weakening federal power. I doubt there are any states where racism would win over and make new segregation laws.
I have believed that the government should have less power long before I heard about Ron Paul. With an over-expanded government (esp. executive), you get things like the Patriot Act and Mandatory Youth Service.
urokima 2 years ago
You are still fail to address ANY of the issues I brought up.
You only remotely imply that you hope that Ron Paul's defense of segregation state policies will fail to take hold, so he's acceptable option.
If you scrap the federal gov't, who will enforce the constitution he supposedly loves? You fail to get that the "states' rights" position that Paul advocates, means state gov'ts with unlimited liberty to be as oppresive as they opt IS tyranny and fundamentaly STATIST.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Historicaly states' rights was an argument for states to exercise their liberty to abolish free speech, violate the sovereignity of other states, to use paramilitary thugs to commit voter fraud and intimidation of the population, to characterise a portion of the population as inferior, to engage in slavery, to replace the democratic gov't with an aristocratic one.
If you don't like Patriot Act, Ron Paul is certainly NOT your candidate.Contrary to his demagogic whine,he'll scrap ALL your rights
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Take a look at Ron Paul's voting record. You obviously know nothing of the man.
urokima 2 years ago
As a matter of fact I have indeed looked closely at Paul's voting record and it explains a lot. Including why all the white suppremacists and neonazis (including Don Black of Stormfront, Alex Linder of VNN, Bill White) support him wholeheartedly; he has NEVER betrayed their issues. Even in just symbolic votes. Even if he had to vote FOR federal gov't intervention to satisfy them.
Is seems that these peoples vision for america 'curiously' coincides with Ron Pauls agenda of "freedom".
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Witch doctors??? Have you bothered to read any of their well researched articles and theories that are backed by historical examples?
Had the mainstream ivy league economists in Washington D.C. heeded their warnings we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.
I can assure you that one day their ideas will be the mainstream just as as people one day realized the earth was round and not flat.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
Have YOU bothered to read about their methodology?They reject BOTH mathematics AND empirical data as valid methods to study economy and instead opt for 'introspection'.
If you reject math and data you are left only with metaphysics.That's why they ARE witch doctors.
And flat earth theories were defeated by data and maths. So the flat earther here is you.
And your assertion that your ideology will be mainstream one day is really reminiscent of Khurshcev asserting the same for his own ideology.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
The Austrian's refusal to use observation has to do with the fact that economic transactions have so many factors that one cannot know or understand them all.
Those arrogant enough to think they can understand them all will come up with ridiculous theories (i.e. mainstream Keynsian view that a recession requires govt spending).
Please feel free to suggest a school of economic thought that describes the economy better than the Austrian school - I highly doubt you will be able to do this.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
Refusal to use observation AND maths.
A great deal of natural phenomena are complex and are controlled by a huge number of factors. That is from meteorological to neurophysiological ones.They do their best using the SCIENTIFIC method to built a mathematical model using their current data. On the way of the endeavor you fix or even replace it in the light of new data.
What people DON'T do is introducing metaphysical entities because of the percieved difficulties(i.e. knowledge by 'intropection')
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And your assertion that there is no theory better that the Austrian school shaman thing is laughable.One additional reason that they don't like empirical evidence is because when their theories are applied in REAL world they fail miserably.See Somalia.The excuses I've heard up to now by your comrades are that the private development cannot initialize because of lack of (state made-haha) infrastructure or that the utterly unregulated power struggles led to a civil war that prohibited development.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
OK so if the Austrian school of thought is inferior, please enlighten me on a more accurate school of economics.
Like I said, you probably won't find one.
The smartest Ivy league economists from Harvard, Princeton, etc... working in the Federal Reserve and elsewhere had no clue of the coming financial collapse. In fact, they were touting how the system had been cured of systemic risk and that all was great in the world. Apparently their math and data failed them miserably.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
Maybe they failed to predict what was happening because you can't use math and data to predict human economic behavior. Its like trying to solve schizophrenia with algebra.
The Austrians were well aware of what was happening -just read up on Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Lew Rockwell, and many others.
psst....the world is round, give up your outdated economic theories.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
But we didn't find that the earth is round using "introspection".
Obviously, you are too illiterate to be acquainted with even the most fundamental epistemological notions. That's why you think that metaphysics (i.e. ANYTHING outside empical evidence and/or maths) can be legitimate source of knowledge. And why you sadly invoke the same type of arguements that creationists use against science.
If you want to be part of the racist, neoconfederate cult that Lew Rockwell has built, go ahead.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And yes, all current treatements for e.g. schizophrenia have been attained using the scientific method. The way current research is done depends on data from diverse fields AND complex mathematical tools.
If you don't like it, opt for your nearest scientology center. They too find that mental phenomena are too big and awesome to be explained with data and 'algebra'.
And correct me if i am wrong, but wasn't Greenspan a raging objectivist dismissed by academics as a blind ideologue? Duh...
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Enough philosophizing, the fact is the Austrian school of economics provides an understanding of the economy and the effects of monetary policy and govt interventions. You can actually use these theories to predict an outcome. The fact that history has proven them right shows that whatever method they used to come up with their theories works.
You have yet to point me to any economic theories that provide and understanding of the economy better than the Austrian school.
I'm waiting....
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
And their theories DON'T work. That's why they REJECT empirical data as a source of knowledge. You are naive. And the fact that you expect me to learn your lazy ass PROPER ecomomics through youtube is quite telling. As I said the world and especially the economy is too complex to be explained with one-liners. If you can't deal with it, good luck with your economic religion. Continue chanting "all hail to lew rockwell" ,"death to the democraticaly elected gov'ts, the root of all problems"
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Sorry that the public education system has failed you. I have so many issues with your last comment that I can't possibly address them in the remaining character count.
The govt should do what it was designed to do as a servant of the people, in a nutshell that is to protect the liberties of the people and protect our country from foreign invasion. Adhering to our constitution would be a good start.
If you enjoy central planning and wealth distribution/theft head over to N. Korea or Cuba.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
Lew Rockwell and von Mises people give a damn about the constitution and the people? Don't make me laugh.
Ok they do worship the tenth amendment (they would love to use it as an excuse to bring back racial segregation), but appart from that they are not in good terms with half of the document.
And they love SOO much the people's will & rights. That's why they have repeadedly dissed democracy as fundamentaly 'ochlocratic' civic system.
They are reactionary and authoritarian demagogues. Wake up.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And who told anything about centraly planned economy?(and who told anything about obama, geithner etc?)
Nice try there fighting strawmen. Every paultard is a "glorious" champion against strawmen.
And realize that because they chant the word 'constitution' it DOESN'T mean they give a damn about it. Get a clear mind, ditch the paultard hivemind, do bother -at last- to read the f*ing document, compare it with their positions and get out of the cult.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Did you not type the following implying our current govt is great:
"Continue chanting "all hail to lew rockwell"
,"death to the democraticaly elected gov'ts, the root of all problems" "
In case you haven't noticed our current govt is socialist. They believe in centrally planning just about everything from what I can tell. Just like you they are arrogant enough to think that a few people know what is best for the whole.
I've read the constitution, it is you who has failed to understand it
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
Have you read the second article? Have you read the 14th amendment? The 15th? The 16th? What do you think of them? Because Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell openly attack them.
My emphasis was apparently on von Mises people dissing of DEMOCRATIC governments. Your assumption that this phrase even remotely implies centraly planned economy is ridiculous. But you peopla are known for desperatly seeking every tiny opportunity to throw a strawman...
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
The 1st, 4th and 5th amendment were clearly violated during the past administration and the current administration says "let's look forward". Did Lew Rockwell do anything more than assigning a lackey to mildly complain about it in his blog? Because other people DID do a lot of things. And the memos were not released because of Lew Rockwell.
All these people care about is the 10th amendment and posse comitatus.Because their vision of libery is libery to become autocrats of their local community.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
If anything, they have not focused on past administration's violations due to the relentless barrage of unconstitutional behavior from the current adminisration -thereby leaving them with little energy to devote to previous administrations violations which they addressed at the time. And I know they had many issues with the Bush administration.
And that last statement about their desire to be autocrats is complete BS and is in complete opposition to everything I've heard and read from them.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
The obama administration has made a lot of blunders but the contitution was RAPED from the past one.The seperation of powers, the suspension of habeas corpus, of right to privacy or fair trial are the most prominent.Whoever loves the constitution should fight to see persecutions to avert establishment of precedent.
Would you be kind enough to point out the SPECIFIC text in the constitution that policies introduced by current administration are violating?I am sure the violations are far more.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And when i say that they are autocrats, I am not saying it randomly. Notice that, while they fiercly oppose the federal state, they aggresively promote the expansion of powers of states beyond the checks and balances of the "evil federal gov't".
The states' rights in their view admittedly INCLUDES freedom for states to discriminate based on race. Lew Rockwell describes himself as 'confederate'. Is this constitutional? They say 10th amendment(of course), I say14th.
What do you say?
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Treatments, how about the root cause? Math and empirical data have not yet led anyone to the root cause of schizophrenia. Do you see the similarities with understanding the economy? Algebra will likely not lead them to the root cause of schizophrenia or any other mental disorder
Sounds to me like you are one of those so called experts that believes he knows everything and in fact knows very little -just like Obama, Bernanke, Geithner etc. so called "experts" who are destroying our economy.
limitedgovt999 2 years ago
So if up to now we don't have an answer for schizophrenia we should drop science and turn to metaphysics?
That's why I told you that you speak like a creationist.
They too bash the scientific method and the sciences because they still struggle to find the truth about nature and for not being able to answer anything in two sentence answers.
They too decare hastily the game already lost and they point to their prophets who have got via revelation an one-sentence answer for everything .
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
and u wonder y u lost the election i voted 4 obama but if ron paul was the republican rep. i would have voted 4 him
311bmurr 2 years ago
Who would want to be the leader of these fat white entitled assholes?
I'm guessing Dr. Paul would be happy to distance himself from these clowns.
pretorious700 2 years ago
Lindsey Graham is a torture loving sodomite.
CarryANation2 2 years ago
If Dr Paul was leading the party they would still be in power. The republicans did everything they could to kick him to the curb. It is being a Contitutionalist that 36% of us "Indepenents" want. We don't want to elect people who will pick and chose what amendments they will keep safe for us. WE WANT THEM ALL KEPT SAFE. Dr Paul is the only one doing that. Mr Graham should wake up and see what Americans want. We want the federal government out of states rights & the Constitution to be followed.
kenbstepp 2 years ago
ITS NOT ABOUT LEFT OR RIGHT YOU FUCK.
Ken2234 2 years ago
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The NeoCon-Fascists like Graham and the Democrat-Socialists like Pelosi & Reid are two sides of the SAME Constitution hating, oath ignoring, treasonous, Lincoln loving, central planning Statists coin.
NeoCons like Graham are KILLING the Republican Party!
They are truly Republicrats and the very reason why Freedom Loving people don't trust the federal gov't.
Guarding AGAINST their type of scum is the VERY reason we have the Bill of Rights!
yakyakyak69 2 years ago
Lindsey Graham is proving to be a little wheesel!
How short a memory he has. Remember what happened to Senator McCain when he talked against Ron Paul during his presidential campaign (he lost the election big time). We can do the same for Linsey and pledge to not vote for him with the same results.
Ron Paul is the only politition that is truthfull and honest left in this country! He is my president. obama and lindsey and the rest of them literally can go to hell! Thanks.
tigeroll 2 years ago 2
Move over you piece of Good Ol' Boy shit, and let Ron Paul, a real American, Lead the way to freedom from all your moral bullshit! So tired of fat white southern ass holes!
jdetuncq 2 years ago 2
As a Southern Fat White Asshole...I can tell you that most of us are actually Ron Paul supporters....: )
hardmod777 2 years ago 4
God love ya!!
sirreal6 2 years ago
i love you
Ken2234 2 years ago
My apologies if you consider yourself an asshole,
I live in the south and not all fat white men are assholes. Ron Paul 2012
jdetuncq 2 years ago
It's hilarious this was even said, just goes to show you how WEAK and pathetic the Republican party is now that Ron Paul's message of truth and freedom (and the "Libertarian" views) are gaining momentum over their failed neocon experiments.
Reagan only got a fraction of the equation right (at least as far as accomplishments) so "Lindsey", your time has passed, get out of the way so Ron Paul can fix all the problems you and your even more statist friends (Dems) created.
garoad2 2 years ago
RHINO's scare me, SOUTH CAROLINA STAND UP AND GET LINDSY GRAM GONE FROM THE GOP.
voteDRNO 2 years ago 2
Lindsay Graham looks like a fruit. Ron Paul is twice the man he is.
yeauxxx 2 years ago 4
Ron Paul is my hero.
Lindsey Graham is who?
WashMitt 2 years ago 4
You are a lying scumbag, I campaigned for the Republican cause for years, and folks like Graham are the reason the party is in the dirt right now.
Go away scumbag, if you want to leave the country better than when it found you.
triadfreedom 2 years ago 2
Shut up Lindsay you despicable parasitic scumbag. If you care about this country please just kill yourself.
JesseKantstopolis 2 years ago 2
The Republicans and Democrats = the same false left-right paradigm. Get beyond seeing people as labels and aimlessly fighting against each other. when both parties are part of the same problem
johnknight999 2 years ago
you're a douche bag. "I'm not a libertarian, I'm not a constitutional party republican, I don't support Ron Paul"....so you're a chicken hawk, neo con, fascist do whatever it takes to stay in power phony. PHONY!
ryanthomastew 2 years ago 3
You, Senator, are no Ronald Reagan.
And keep clapping you mindless party line voters.
Signed,
A Recovering Republican
PEinHK 2 years ago 2
HAHAHA, LG's applause was about as enthusiastic as the GOP's voter turnout!
LibertyPaine 2 years ago
11thsockpuppet is a shill, just look at the type of language he uses...
DontBeObamaZombies 2 years ago
I wish this guy and McCain would just go join the Democratic party and be done with it. Follow Specter out the door. These creeps are why I loath the Republican party. Ron Paul is logical, sensible, well-read, and extremely well-versed in the constitution. He's an anomaly for a politician, but he's most certainly the kind of politician we need.
kait112 2 years ago 3
IF Ron Paul is NOT the Leader of the Republican party, WHO IS??
Is it the Walking corpse, who was for gun control and open Borders, who lost to Communist Obama- AKA John McCain?
Or is it the former president who is guilty of war crimes/torture, and bankrupted our country- AKA Comrad George W Bush
Or perhaps it is the Drug addict,Insane Radio host- AKA Rush Limbaugh
IF Ron Paul is NOT the Leader of the Republican Party, then THERE IS NO MORE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!
DontBeObamaZombies 2 years ago 2
Maybe it happens that you are a RonPaulZombie.
At least Graham is realising that the Republican party CANNOT survive if it appeals only to white americans.
If you want the base of the republican party to be white suppremacists and an army of naive conspiracy theorists, you are driving this country to ONE PARTY system. And the culprits are you that push the party to the racist far-right.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
"Maybe it happens that you are a RonPaulZombie.
At least Graham is realizing that the Republican party CANNOT survive if it appeals only to white americans."
-Yet graham is WHITE and has always APPEALED To Old Whites throughout his entire career
Ron Paul appeals to everyone, especially youth.
Last Time I checked Minorities appreciate Individual Rights as much as whites as well.
IS RON PAUL "BLACKER" THAN OBAMA?
- watch?v=TIs4IVMRAMM
DontBeObamaZombies 2 years ago
Yeah but minorities don't appreciate white-supremacist, neoconfederate trash, like Ron Paul.
'Librerty' and 'individual rights' is a populist chant that means nothing to him. He is for permitting states restricting rights that are currently protected(and his excuse is that he is against the 'big federal government'. But,curiously, he is for the federal government banning abortion).
He ACTIVELY seeks support from white supremacists. And his voting record PROVES that he has NEVER betrayed them.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
I went to see Paul give a speech on 4/20 at Wake Forest University, and it was not a gaggle of race-hating white supremacists.
The guy tries to be colorblind. Excuse me if he doesn't like robbing Jack to pay John.
What the fuck is 'Librerty' ?
I have never heard of Paul seeking support from white supremacists. He himself has said that racism is the worst form of collectivism.
If you want a federal abortion police running around the country, be my guest, but Paul wants it 4 the States.
Terrorera 2 years ago 3
He is so much against the federal governent that CONSPONSORED a bill that gave $3,5 million federal money to the boyscouts, he recieved; but was the ONLY ONE to vote against honoring Rosa Parks that would cont almost nothing.
No wonder that Don Black of Stormfront, Alex Linder of VNN, David Duke, Bill White of American National Socialist Workers Party endorse and support him.
What about his speech at Robert A. Taft Club?
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Honestly, it's about really giving a sh** about Rosa Parks, versus acting like it. What I mean is, if the people in Birmingham, the black people, the white people, whoever, really care about Parks, then pony up the money and make a statue or give her a medal or whatever. Don't spend my money when I personally think Parks had courage but I'm not about to donate money for statue for her nor would anyone I know do so. And that applies to a lot of historical figures too.
gendna2 2 years ago 2
Rosa Parks medal costed nothing because the expenses were covered by replicas sold to the public.
Contrary, Ron Paul proposed HIMSELF (but failed) to spend 240 million federal $ to commemorate the 'heroes of the cold war'. Nevermind all the other federal $ he got the boyscout sillines & earmarks.
I guess winning the commies was awesome, but desegregation sucked.
I know that neither you or ron paul give a shit about rosa parks or civil rights. At least you admit that you are racist.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Did not say I am racist, I just said I would not donate any money to a statue of Parks. BTW, most people, if privately asked, would probably tell you to get lost if you asked money for a Rosa Parks statue, heck many Americans don't even know who she is... although that just shows the level of ignorance in the USA. All I'm saying is that desegregation, just like Rosa Parks' statue, is an object/idea imposed upon a people without them really believing in it.
gendna2 2 years ago
You do sound neoconfederate and racist.
Is abolition of slavery a manifestation of evil statism? It was IMPOSED by the government. People didn't necesarily believed in it
Is the bill of rights statism? It's imposed by the government. And i you haven't been sent to gitmo, perhaps you can't appreciate the value of e.g. habeas corpus, so who knows if it's good or not...
It seems that your idea of libertarianism includes the freedom of a mall owners to imprison indefinitelly suspect shoplifters.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And the fact that you, Ron Paul and his pals there at Ludwig von Mises don't see desegregation as the removal of government sponsored and imposed racism, reveals your profound racism.
Rosa Parks didn't fight to MAKE new rules;she fought to REMOVE rules i.e. jim crow laws. Segregation was imposed. And your failure to see it as such and your defence of the role of gov't to keep races segregated shows that you people are racist first and libertarians second.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Now we are finally getting somewhere sockpuppet. You stated that the government imposed Jim Crow; thus the government created the problem in the first place. They legislated what businesses had to do as to race and what individuals could and could not do. So really, they enacted unconstitutional legislation. But instead of just repealing those laws, the federal government went and actively used the courts, not Congress, to enable busing, new voting districts, etc...
gendna2 2 years ago
They overreached, and guess what, people now hate each other more. Unintended consequences just keep piling up until the system will break, or we go and take over the damn thing.
gendna2 2 years ago
11thsockpuppet why are yo racist aginst white peoples right to choose if they want to be segregated or not?
He is only saying he is not for segregation but also not for forced integration and racist laws like Affirmative action. He does not believe the government should be in people lives in these personal decisions.
brentts11 2 years ago
Nice white supremacist rant there, pal.
"But us white people don't want to have blacks nearby. Why can't we have jim crow again? it is sooo unfair and 'unlibertarian'. It is almost unconstitutional (p.s. fuck 15th amendment)"
You are yet another Ron Paul fan that reads as if he posts at the stormfront site. I guess Ron Paul being 'best friends' with Don Black is not fruitless after all.
I knew that Paul was racist,but you people,with this line of defense,make him look as if he 's David Duke
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
White supremacist if that's what people who don't like the government telling me who I can hire, who I must rent to then so be it. I take the title white Supremacist with honor. Words like racist, supremacist no longer have a meaning any more, exspecially when a black racist is sitting in the white house.
Don Black friends with Ron Paul since when? If so then who cares? Al Sharpton is friends with Clinton.
brentts11 2 years ago
ok. you are pretty clear and open about your 'pro-white' views and therefore indeed Lindsay Graham is certainly not your candidate; ron paul will serve your views better. Paul has proven that he always delivers in regards to 'prowhite' issues.
There was another instance of a republic that was dazzled by the promises of far-right demagogery during their economic recession. Yes.Weimar republic. But I guess you are elated by the prospect of such thing hapening to U.S as well.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
People like you who throw the word supremacist around are the reason those type of words are losing influence. Paul hasn't been running on pro-white issues. He has been running on less government more freedom issues. Even if Paul was running on pro-white issues so what? Every politician black or non-black runs on pro-black issues, Obama ran on pro-black issues when addressing black crowds.
The economy is not going to become a Weimar republic. But the fact is our economy is drained.
brentts11 2 years ago
So in your opinion defending STATE LAWS and STATE POLICY that sustain racial segregation is not white supremacism.
One has got to lynch half a dozen blacks to qualify as a white suppremacist, I assume.
You evaded the point regarding weimar republic. It was that far right demagogues exploited the 'drained' economy to rise to power. You all people prove that the same thing can happen here; the appeal of the far right was increased dramaticaly. I find this VERY scary.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
No, no it's not.
Lynch? One black man can kill 50 white people, curse white people out on Tv, rape white woman, and still not be considered a black supremacist. The word supremacist no longer has a meaning, as it's only used against whites. By the way Lynchings were used agisnt whites also, people who were lynched were killers, and rapers. Don't like facts, eh.
brentts11 2 years ago
I don't play into that game of being far-right or far-left. The far-left has been openly operating in America for years, now thats scary. The far-left with its open proud black, anti-white racist politicians have been openly open to Americans for sometime now. The far-right is only a reaction to the far-lefts out of control hate.
Why should white people pay taxes when we are not represented in government like blacks are? No taxation without representation.
brentts11 2 years ago
You say the exact same arguments that SELF PROCLAIMED white supremacists use. I am not going to argue if they are wrong or right. Apparently, you want avoid the specific charged term to gain some credibility. But the arguments are THE SAME.
Regarding this 'disenfranchisement' rant you people whine,you are supposed to be barred from voting.Voting but failing to elect your candidate is NOT disenfranchisement.;It's how democracy works. Amazingly, you don't seem to get or like the democratic ways.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Honestly I don't want to earn anyone's credibility. I could really careless if one takes my understanding of things with a grain of salt.
Democarcy doesn't work when you have a media, and cash machine of global corporations operating against you. The media builds and shapes peoples thinking to hate or like what their corporate owners want from you. Sadly thats how modern American political and mainstream life works, the media creates and destroys who they like and don't like.
brentts11 2 years ago
Your post is utterly non sequitur.
You say all the SAME arguments self proclamed white supremacists use BUT you whine about overuse of the term.
I say that you sound fundamentaly undemocratic,and you respond this wierd rant about corporations.
You mean that you missunderstand the democratic process because big media brainwash you?Or that you don't believe in democracy because it is unattainable?
And isn't your candidate (Ron Paul) all for THE FREEDOM OF CORPORATIONS?What do you whine about?
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Again anti-white supremacist theres a reason why most countries do not allow media to favor any side in elections, because it's dangerous to the political process. In the UK all partys have to be given air time even the most un-popular, because if they weren't only the ones the media wanted you to see would be heard and known.
There is no demcracy when third partys are left out, when the media only allows you to pick from Dem or Rep.
brentts11 2 years ago
And fool yourselves not. When he says less federal gov't and more freedom, what he means is fewer protections of the individual rights( that are guaranteed ONLY through the federal government) and more freedom NOT for the individuals, but for states and corporations. This means that Ron Paul wants liberty for the states and companies to be tyrannical if they opt so. 'And if you don't like it , you can move/work/buy elsewhere (if you can)'.
That's why the 'liberty' talk is vacuous demagogery.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
I'm not moving any where America was founded with the idea that individual states came into the union, and that individual states have rights. I'm not leaving just because 230 years latter anti-constitutionist like your self think they can ignore the constitution.
If you don't like Americas constitution and prefer modern law makers to listen to what part of the consitution they like and what part they don't, then it's you who needs to leave
brentts11 2 years ago
You know, Ron Paul is not the constitution personified. It is a FEDERAL (i know you hate this) legal document that has WORDS in it that you HAVE TO READ.
If you are to assert that revoking "state rights" on state endorsed racial discrimnation is unconstitutional, YOU HAVE TO CITE THE APPROPRIATE PASSAGE. Do it like this: "Jim Crow state laws are protected by the 14th and 15th amendment".
And lawmakers don't interpret the constitution; judges do. It is sad that you don't know even the basics.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
First of all forced intergartion is unconstitutional. When did I ever say I am for jim crow? I said I'm against forced segregation but also am against forced integration. The government has no right telling people who they can hire, and who they must sell to.
And you have some nerve to talk, I bet you support racist laws like affirmative action. Ron Paul is standing up against government intrusion into our personal lives. You have no argument besides an anti-constitution arguement.
brentts11 2 years ago
As always you roll back to the 'business rights' strawman. But previously you argued for STATE RIGHTS and all the issue is about Paul's beef against Rosa Parks and Paul's (and your) defense of jim crow laws.
You still haven't pointed a quote from my comments that is contrary to any SPECIFIC article of the constitution;you just 'bet stuff'. It is apparent that you have NEVER READ the constitution and that you ignore even the basic stuff about how gov't works. You seem proud of your ignorance.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
First of off I don't like Rosa Parks or MLK etheir does that mean I support Jim Crow? No.
You make no sense, and is blinded by political correctness and anti-white hate. Fortunatley for me I wasn't brought up in a back-bending politically correct house hold.
And because of that I see whats right and wrong with America. People like you ignore the constitution. The consititution says none of the freedoms granted by the constitution should be infringed upon, that includes state right's.
brentts11 2 years ago
Ok. Before mentioning the constitution again, do me a favor. Do bother to read it first. Because you sound like a moron repeating the same vague inanity about me ignoring it (WHICH PART, YOU RETARD?) and "states' rights being infringed" (we fought a civil war for your racist 'state rights', REMEMBER?).
It repeat that your candidate, Ron Paul, eventhough he claims he 'embodies' the constitution, half of the stuff he wants are AGAINST the constitution. (e.g. article 1, 14th,15th,16th amendment).
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
And when you whine about STATE RIGHTS on race issues, the issue is NOT liberty for businesses to discriminate. You are refering to the freedom for the states to establish state endorsed racial discrimination i.e. jim crow type laws if they opt so.
If you had ever read the constitution you would know that these kind of state righs are UNCONSTITUTIONAL
If you cannot get this, I am sorry but this is not a matter of a gap in our political positions; it is a matter that you are mentaly inadequate.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
I'm sorry but you're reading alot of propaganda. A confederacy movement doesn't automatically equate to racism. Race wasn't the real reason they separated.
Anyways, to solve the problem of the constitution they simply left the Union.
Forced integration in the workforce is recognizing that there's a difference between people because of the color of their skin. So... it's racist. It also causes a problem for places with more people of one skin color than another.
urokima 2 years ago
And tell me what does the us constitution say about birthright citizenship and what Ron Paul's opinion is.His views on taxation&abortion are also uncosntitutional (i know;there are conspirators amending it).His animosity against all federal laws is unconstitutional(the CONSTITUTION dictates to HAVE a congress and assigns it A ROLE i.e. to make laws)
I believe that's pretty clear who cares about the constitution and who uses merely its name to gather votes and the document itself to wipe his ass.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
When people take your money through income taxes that's a violation of your property rights. You know, the fruits of your labor is under that.
Abortion should be handled at the state level because support varies widely by state.
And how is disagreeing with a law unconstitutional? That sounds more likea dictatorship. If you want bigger gov't, then go to Cuba. See how well big gov't has treated them.
Or Europe with their socialized healthcare. Could get cancer and never get treated =\.
urokima 2 years ago
His proposed policies are unconstitutional; not the fact that he voices them. You present it like a 'freedom of speech' thing, because you are a moron that can't argue against anything but strawmen. (quite typical of ron paul zombies)
If you want to change the constitution, is ok by me. But you can't whine that you are the sole champion of constitution when you want half of it changed.
And his problem with the second article of the constitution makes him FUNDAMENTALLY ANTIDEMOCRATIC.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but you worded it in a way that says opposition is unconstitutional.
And what would you propose we do with this economy? Continue these bailouts? lol. Allow government to take control of more businesses?
Look up Amtrak and see how well that has done. Nixon promised that in a few years it'd be doing so well that investors would be scrambling to get a piece of the business.
Government-run businesses never do as well as the private sector. Gov't is more corrupt than a
urokima 2 years ago
And i know that you Ron Paul zombies will dispute it at once, but it seems that somalia, the libertarian paradise that the von mises institute loves so much, isn't going that well.
In fact I would prefer being treated by the 'socialist' healthcare system of the swedes that the libertarian system of the somalis.
So yeah, if i get sick I will go to sweden and shun somalia. But what do I know. Professor paul and his flock sure know better.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
How can you really compare the two? Really?
Single-payer healthcare system:
1. More bureaucracy means higher cost
2. With higher demand come higher prices
3. With price fixes comes a lower supply (people come more often, not enough doctors) and restrictions on what operations can be done
4. People are put on waiting lists and some die before they can be treated.
5. With higher regulation comes imprisonment based off of honest errors or abuse of the system. (Just like our lovely tax code)
urokima 2 years ago
another mind brainwashed by BET, public classrooms, and the media.
If you have 5 white men who have degrees for the field they're applying for and you can only hire 3 of them, that's racism.
And think if it were the other way around? If you had 5 black men who were qualified, then you could only hire 3. Because you need a diverse workforce.
And you don't see that as racism? That's a classic example of brainwashing
I suppose it would be okay if that happened to the white man (lol)
urokima 2 years ago 2
Yet anotherone Paultard that fights against strawmen.
We talk about jim crow laws, dumbass. And the fact that Ron Paul and his pals at von Mises constantly defend them.
And before you go forward and say the same silly chant about 'federal spending' go read my past comments.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Alright, show me an article which shows Ron Paul defending the Jim Crow laws. I'd like to see it, please.
urokima 2 years ago
Go at Lew Rockwell's site and see what Paul himself writes there.Note also the generally neoconfederate talk of the people there.These people work with Paul closely and are actively engaged in his campaigns.
See his newsletters, his white separatist sponsors & his voting record.
See his constant lament about the vice of 'forced integration'. The poison he was spewing against Rosa Parks & MLK was because they fought for affirmative action or against the state sponsored racism of jim crow laws?
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
"Yeah but minorities don't appreciate white-supremacist, neoconfederate trash, like Ron Paul.
'Librerty' and 'individual rights' is a populist chant that means nothing to him. He is for permitting states restricting rights that are currently protected(and his excuse is that he is against the 'big federal government'. But,curiously, he is for the federal government banning abortion)."
All lies, not anything even anything resembling the truth.
You arent fooling anyone
DontBeObamaZombies 2 years ago
Of course I am a liar and of course I am part of the conspiracy of the establishment. :)
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Where does Ron Paul say he is for a Federal Level ban on Abortion? I understand the point - abortion is willful termination of life -(murder to some folks - just shrugging off useless skin to others). Show me where Ron Paul says that though.
ryanthomastew 2 years ago
He DID vote for ban in FEDERAL level of the so called "partial birth abortion". Yeah he moaned afterwards about the federal thing to appease his sheeple,but he DID want to give the federal gov't the authority.Note that the constitutionality of the law is hotly disputed, as it omits to offer exceptions in case of danger of woman's health.
On the main charge of racism and being apologist of the segregation, I see you don't have much to say...
I guess you are another one that finds all this swell
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Forced integration or force segregation are both wrong from the viewpoint that we're allowing the Federal Government to coerce people's behavior. While it is noble to want to abolish racism you can't force people to behave. Ron Paul was not a racist for not supporting a statue and medal of honor for Rosa Parks. He refused to support spending US Tax dollars on something unconstitutional no matter how noble. He voted against it for Ronald Regan too as well as Arnold Palmer.
ryanthomastew 2 years ago 2
If you read again my comments you'll see that all the 'federal spending' argument is void.
How revoking STATE laws and STATE policy mandating racial segregation is WRONG? You people, as friends of the constitution ought to be the first to object.
The fact that so many Ron Paul people come forward to defend these pro segregation views is quite revealing. If you want to Push the GOP to that fringe direction, it is you that shred its(shrinking)credibility. In,effect you are Obama enablers.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Let's also agree to disagree on things that Ron Paul would not have as his top priorities in office. Bottom line here is that Ron Paul is the only man who has the courage to tell the Jews in Israel to take their AIPAC and shove it, and he's also the only guy who has the courage to say that 9/11 and other conflicts are unintended consequences of our foreign policy. He'll shut down the Empire and that's what I really care about. Just want to put it into perspective.
gendna2 2 years ago
Ron Paul wants to give the decision back to the states, you can choose what state you want to live.
triadfreedom 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Paultards are the most obedient of all sheep.
Now you'll claim that all the racist newsletters, all his speeches at racist conferences, all the support from hate groups, all the neoconfederate trash of his best pals from von mises institute spread, all the votes he has cast are still not enough evidence of the racist fringe he belongs.You'll claim that the establishment/nwo/etc conspire to hurt him and that rosa parks and mlk are his heroes because he said so on CNN.
That's the PaulCult.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
It'd be nice if you were more faimiliar with his positions/material. There's a shitload of followers in his following, but the man isn't a racist. Goldwater was no racist, but he did get painted that way frequently; really doesn't surprise me that that is all you see of him as well.
I would rather fight to defend my home, family and state than betray them for the federal government... if that makes me a neoconfederate, then that's a compliment. Would any reasonable person disagree?
Terrorera 2 years ago
Four words Sen. Graham: YOU - DON'T - GET - IT
israelandersonvideo 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul is undeniably a force to be reckoned with...most candidates just disappear off the scene, but he is here with us all the way through this thing and must be recognized by all. Cause we are right, we are going to win and they are scared.
gladiator1010 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul will make the U.S. a libertarian paradise.
He'll make US like the free somalia; not like the oppressive communist sweden. (Don't worry about the blacks. His record proves that he'll make it a whites only somalia thing ;) )
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Ron Paul will change the United Socialist States of America(USSA) back to the USA, whether the establishment likes it or not.
DontBeObamaZombies 2 years ago 2
Why do you hate the U.S. Constitution?
Koldkut09 2 years ago 2
How the hell annuling Jim Crow laws and desegregating U.S. is against the constitution? These laws where struck down as unconstitutional.
Seems that you as all the other Ron Paul flock think that he is the constitution personified.
For all the articles of the constitution he doesn't like he switches to the 'state rights +bad federal gov't' chant (e.g.14th ,15th, (+19th the von mises people) amendment) or invokes a wierd conspiracy theory that claims that the specific article is null (16th)
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
Mandating businesses to segregate is unconstitutional but so is mandating them to desegregate.
dumuh 2 years ago 2
Telling anyone who criticises Ron Paul that hates the constitution shows how much cult-like devotion you have to this man.
This is very sad. And I bet you've never read the constitution. Else you'd know that the segregation issue is the one most revealing of Paul's ruthless hypocrisy and demagogery in presenting himself as the 'champion of the constitution'.
11thsockpuppet 2 years ago
You can always amend it...but you can't ignore it!
gladiator1010 2 years ago
What he's basically saying is, "Follow me leftward!"
4Stanzas 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul is a leader of liberty,skrew your 2 party scam system..
xsleef 2 years ago 3
No shit... who the hell is this dumbass anyway?
3rdknukl 2 years ago 3
Looks like another puppet to me?Which way would you like your commy handed to you from the left or right.I dont want a dam thing handed to me from these crooks.
xsleef 2 years ago
Or their UN,bankster masters.
xsleef 2 years ago
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberalsif we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom.
Ronald Reagan
PoliticalPorno 2 years ago 2
Lindsey just f**ed himself by saying that Ron Paul is a not leader of our party! Talk about career limiting moves...ENJOY YOUR LAST TERM SENATOR.
babaprad 2 years ago 4
And by saying you're going to grow this party by sacrificing principles (the ones Ron Paul stands by, the constitution), shows that you will not grow the party and that the GOP is done for. There's an entire generation of people growing up either going liberal democrat or libertarian. The GOP generation will grow old and die with its replacement being a mixture of democrat and libertarian.
mbyrd777 2 years ago 2
Ron Paul transcends party labels. He is the voice of truth and justice for all. Both parties are controlled by the globalist elite. The 2 party system is a sham...its one and the same. Ron Paul in 2012
ronheri 2 years ago
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Ron Paul is the leader!
CORNandCATTLE 2 years ago
ronald reagan endorsed ron paul for his congressional run in tx. back in the 80's. so i would thank that ronald regan is a ron paul supporter mr. grahm. so join the regan band wagon that he would ride not the wagon that all of these and including mr. grahm necons have made up.
bdburck 2 years ago
"I care about this party, I care about this country"
Shows where the priorities are doesn't it?
jdubincali 2 years ago
I just barfed in my mouth. I don't know if I'm more disgusted by Graham's insincere, fake speech or the ignorant crowd that supports him. Let me remind why Republicans lost...Legalized torture, massive corporate fraud, illegal wars, Patriot Act, Military Commission Act, suspension of habeas corpus, record deficits, and list goes on...does this sound Republican? Get fooled once, shame on you, get fooled twice, time for tar and feather.
jdubincali 2 years ago 2
BOOO!!!!!
Richey716 2 years ago 2
Democrats AND Republicans have spent the country into oblivion.
btrausch 2 years ago 3
Ha! The Lord wants "BailOut Lindsay" to remain in power??
i don't think so.
seriously, it's time for you to go traitor.
believr77 2 years ago 4
What a flippin retardo!
czeringue 2 years ago 3
who? Graham or the cheering crowd?
jdubincali 2 years ago
From a guy that voted for both bailouts... vote this guy out!
chonny1987 2 years ago 3
"Ron Paul is not the leader of our party"? Senator Graham clearly messed up. He forgot the word 'yet'.
rzimberg 2 years ago 3
He's a what Republican? Ronald Reagan? This Reagan?
watch?v=YyXW1hb-JQg
leoca 2 years ago