@mopar7378 a neon is made by mopar....or atleast has mopar badges and was designed by them. but even the makers of Neons hate that car. and yes, muscle always win.
Hell my 87 BMW i will eat that Neon, specialy in a top end race like that,,,DAM,, what is is a little 4cl with a few bolt on's,, how bout a fuel injected strait 6 with cold air ram, and a 5sp w/ 6 od droped 2 in ft and raseid 2 in rear, with 16" , buzzsaw rims,,not bad for a 54 yr old kid
Nothing like getting your ass handed to you by a 47 year old car with a station wagon motor with some head work, intake, and a cam, shaped like a brick. B-body + B-engine = Game Over.
You're all missing one important point, real world roads have things called "corners". It's nice to drive something that you don't have to slow to 10 mph to go around them. It's also nice to have brakes that work, front suspension that actually lets you feel the road, and steering that doesn't feel like stirring mashed potatoes.
@ExUSSailor You act like owners of muscle cars always utilize the stock suspension. Hell my '73 Fury coupe felt fine going around 50-60 degree corners at 40 mph with all stock or stock-replacement suspension, thats shitty front coils with rear leaf springs that are ten years old and 225 width tires on all fours lol. With some adjustable shocks and sway bars it feels solid at 120+ mph and corners alot better.
.. SRT-4 didn't hear the 3rd honk 3 times... LOL! . We drove those 1960's cars to work every day... they got up to 20 MPG in easy driving... would get 25 or better with a modern overdrive transmission...
That was great hands down it was the Plymouth... But when an 8 cylinder power plant get 10 miles to the gallon and can't drive it to work everyday going agains a little 4 cylinder that get 30 miles to the gallon and can daily drive I know which 1 I would choose........
@92sleeperspirit The 8 cylinder is probably more streetable than a highly modified 4 cylinder with big cams. And your'e talking about the mpg while driving in the city. The V8 will use more gasoline because it makes more power regardless. In-boost, the 4 cylinder probably uses more gas than the 8 cylinder.
The SRT-4 does a 13.5 in the quarter mile...waaay faster than any 383 Plymouth. I think the guy in the SRT-4 was a major pussy shifting. Get the motor in the fucking power band Grandma!. Now with that said a 440 equiped plymouth I'd expect to see the results here not a 383. 383 had to be modded in which case the Neon did alright. My Neon smokes mustangs so seeing a fellow mopar smoke a Neon isn't so bad. Yes I'm a 440 & Hemi guy who drives a gas sipping Neon that eats Mustangs.
@Nellysman1 I understand sir but remember, not all Mustangs are created equal. I will be more than happy to race you with my 2010 Roush 540RH Mustang in any of your Mopars. I love old school too and grew up with big block muscle cars and I owned several back in the day. They were and still are wonderful machines but the "new" muscle cars are way faster than any of them. My 540 runs as quick and as fast as the old factory drag cars did back in the day with heat and air and power everything.
@MRAMX390 Ya I would certianly fuckin hope so. Its 40 YEARS newer than any muscle, if it wasnt then there obviosly doing something wrong. But do you know what? I know of an old muscle car that could and would bend that mustang over its lap and slap the paint off its ass. It was called a 1968 Dodge Hemi Dart. Look that thing up. But the newer cars are coool too but they still just dont have the attitude the old muscles did.
@AlightBULLDOG Oh and if im not mistaken, the new roush mustangs are turbo'd. So then your running an old naturally aspirated motor vs a new turbo'd motor. Just saying
@AlightBULLDOG I understand and I agree, the new muscle car editions are almost too refined. I grew up driving the original muscle cars when they were dirt cheap. I had big block 4 speed cars and more and we would street race them every Saturday night until the sun came up on Sunday morning. The original Muscle Cars had character and attitude which today's offerings lack but they are very fast none the less. I enjoyed watching, thanks.
@MRAMX390 Totaly agree with you. But I think since a muscle car is about 40 years out dated, if you were to update the old muscle with newer more advanced tech I think they will run with if not outrun todays top cars. Which they prove every day at NHRA drag strips. Then your getting the best of both worlds. PERFORMANCE and ATTITUDE. I mean people dont even have to do much to get 600hp out of the old big blocks.
@AlightBULLDOG I am totally into today's resto-mods. I have seen it done both ways, the original body of a vintage muscle car with everything else modern or a new car with vintage sheet metal. You are right though as the original muscle cars with today's technology applied would smoke the new offerings. I had a 455c.i. Oldsmobile 442 that would just smoke the tires off so traction was out of the question. With just modern tire technology the original muscle cars are much quicker.
Badass! my dad drove a 66 dodge coronet 383 4spd in highschool, it tore up bigblocks of the time 455, 427 gm's this vid gives me an idea of what the 383 mopar was about.
You know, it seems to me that the neon should just give up. I'm not sayin neons are slow, I'm just saying that that belvedere scares me alittle. Sick ride, man. Sick. Ass. Ride.
yep that "led sled" may seem to have more work but still all motor. yes if neon had higher stage turbo and alittle more to it, it can probably beat the plymouth. but still all motor on a car thats 4yrs shy of being half a century old vs modern technology. dont get me wrong tuners are fast cars with half the engine size but i give credit where credit is due something as old as the plymouth still hanging with modern cars. now on a track with turns muscle odds of winning are slim.
I am a car fan, just to let everyone know before you all disgriminate what I say. I love 4 cylinder cars, but I agree, in drag racing the v8 american cars are the way to go. But with that being said, let me say this also, I DONT CARE ABOUT STUPID DRAG RACING. It is so boring, who wants to race in a straight line all day. Try some real racing, road coarse racing. If you have a big bad v8 american car, please try to road coarse race it and see how it turns out, when you flip in the first turn.lol.
@ceetwarrior If the "neon" was modded as much as that plymoth was, I think you'd be shocked how amazing the sound would have been ( along with how fast it would have left the plymouth)
@deddjay Are you fuckin stupid? You will NEVER be able to compare the sound of a fuckin 4 banger fart to the sound of real muscle. Did you not have a dad or something to teach you right from wrong?!
@deddjay Incase you didn't notice, the srt4 was running 20 psi of boost....the 383 was running on atmospheric pressure. Sure the Plymouth had mods but it was simple stuff, same mods I'D do when rebuilding a v8. ANyway, do you know what happens when a big block gets 20 psi of boost down its throat? It goes 8's in the 1/4 at 150+ mph as a full-weight street car.
So much fucking drama on youtube, just watch the god damn video and stop bitching about who's car is better, a real car guy appreciates most any car that deserves it in some degree.
i hope you were doing an infomercial on what kind of cars a p.o.s. srt-4 would not have a snowballs chance in hell of beating, and not really thinking "hey i can beat that fucking absolutely gorgeous belvedere"
@digmynewsocks funny how the srt-4 is lightly modded, and the belvedere had two short paragraphs of mods. if that srt-4 had the amount of money in it that the other car did, no chance for belvedere. and i am an old school cat, i grew up workin on old school american bad ass'!!! just sayin, give credit where it is deserved. i have seen many a muscle car whoop srt-4's. but i have seen srt-4's turn low 10's at the track and they drive the bitches home! in only a 7 year old car. dam impressive.
@Adrenaline96 sorry hafta disagree, yah the neon is "lightly" modded, and yah the plymoth had two short paragraphs of mods, but, the neon wayyyy made up for it in weight advantage, by how much? not sure of exact numbers, but im willing to bet its near half a ton!! as far as giving credit where it is due, yes the srt is indeed a quick little fucker, but holy shit they are ugly, and not just a little!! eye of the beholder i spose.
@Adrenaline96 Yes the Belvedere did have more mods but they were the same mods most people do when they rebuild a v8, especially a big block. Another "bored 0.030 over" engine with aluminum pistons (I have similar pistons, 9 to 1 keith blacks, only cost $200) and a good heads/cam/intake setup. The srt4 on the other hand, is much lighter and is running on 19 psi. For having so much more power and torque to give, the 383 did pretty well.
@Polybun So what buy one of the new Junkass crate Hemis??? No I will stick to my old iron block 440's How about you go pick up a Hemi and toss it in something if you have unlimited money to piss away.................. 383/440 both super fantastic motors as is the original 426 Hemis but the new MP crate motor Hemis are piles of junk.
@440SwingerKid junk ass?? Are you fucking retarded? It's a high nickel alloy casting just like the origonals and is then put through a 7 step stress relieving process. If there is anything bad about them it's that they are based around the 426 design which did have some short comings. The 426 isn't the origonal in any case! The crate motors use the same heads, same stroke, same bore. Where do you get your information?
@Polybun First off I never said the 426 Was the original Hemi...... Second I have personally seen two of the new MP crate Hemis crack for no reason in my buddies Roadrunner both motors were REPLACED by Mopar as they SAID it was a casting flaw..... He ended up going with a Indy 440 based drag motor and has NEVER had any problem and runs awesome. Before you talk out your ass maybe see some real life action of the crate Hemi vs. a old original 426 Hemi.. Original is much better then the MP Crate
@440SwingerKid I've got one in my back yard, a '68 block blown off it's main saddles kid. They all fail with enough abuse. Sounds to me like your friend is a bone head.
@TheRacingwits wouldnt have mattered whether peeon heard 3rd or not. it stlil woulda lost. hell ive got an srt4. fun to drive. it wont win against something like this. MIGHT get it out of the hole but distance? no
so wait a minute yes i own a 4 banger cobalt ss sc modded. So i beat my buddies stage 1 srt4 by 3 cars on a 40 roll. Im thinking id hang in a bit better with this v8 beat i doubt id win but i think id give it a better run
@midnitesquirldog The 1965 belvederes only weighed around 3,150 lbs. With a big block and one person sitting in the car, prolly around 3,400 lbs but still, not even as heavy as a 2011 Mustang GT.
i remember when i didnt like these Plymouths cant see why though......... lol i used to think there ugly well times have changed I WANT ONE some one has a 65 Belvy convertible i know ''convertible'' but how many 65 Plymouths do you see in good shape for $3,500? not too many just one problem no money not to mention im 16 and cant legally buy a car ; ( sigh.......................
@gunny426plymouth sure you can legally buyit. jsut cant legally register it. mom and dad can do that for you. if you had the money ;). anyhoo back on topic. doesnt that just suck. you see this. and are well, broke. maybe not broke. but not enough to buy it. anyho when you get the money its long gone lol
@yamahonkawazuki lol yeah and NOW theres a 65 Sattelite!! coupe i believe a 318 and 727 ehh ok but it IS the exact body style i want! white w red interior thats rare and cool at about the same price too damn...... lil more work but still. i think im just going to stop looking at craigslist. lol and you think my mom wants me in a 60's hot rod? not to mention me restoring it in the garage lol she dont even want me in a pt cruiser! lol we keep tellin her were gonna put a 392 in there!!
The Belvedere doesn't have too many mods... in realistic terms you're looking at maybe a 400hp engine on the outside... the 383HP was 335hp stock - the specs given in the video are very basic and typical mods... no rocket science there. Still a nice sounding / looking car --- would love to see the neon go against something like a 440+6
I think i would have left the 383 in the garage for #s matching if i needed it and built something with some cubes 426w-440+ Then i wouldn't have to worry about getting beat by a stage 2 srt-4
@ChallengerGuy22 with the work into that 383 it's not worth it as a numbers matching. i have a 64 plymouth fury with a 426 wedge and these things are only worth money original with stock options like A/C, convertible, hemi, 4 speed stock blah blah
@Bilskirmir Sorry if i don't understand so are you saying you would leave it stock or that you agree that its a waste pooring money into a high performance 383 build?
deadissu3 you have no clue how much proformance parts cost do you....im not saying i know everything nor that im the shit.. but right now i have over 5 grand just in the motor of my car ..to make it just a street car...look at my mod list... not that big of a list and just basic things...and wheres your car...i live in ohio so i shop a summit racing and buschur racing not ebay you better do some math
@superman200355 Dude, are you serious? This guy has basic mods on his 383 big block, nice cam/heads/intake with a 750 double pumper and a beefy rear end, i'd be surprised if he put any more than like two or three grand into that and it's still naturally aspirated....
correct me if im wrong but the biggest reason the belvedere is killing the srt 4 is not because of hp its the torque...and the 383 was a torque motor...
@bluhmty320 The 383 might have been a big block and put down good torque, especially with a mod or two, but it could rev freely too because of its slightly shorter stroke and bore compared to a 440 or hemi, they never should've stopped making it.
Srt4 Driver " i didnt hear the horn ." when you can clearly hear it on the tape along with the sound of the of the Detroit Muscle kicking his ass . V8s rule the roads!!! didnt the first Fast and the furious teach you anything . a blown motor and the other car still need to double shot nitro to keep up .
Notice the kid in the 65 always jumped the start a bit . I used to street race a guy that pulled that crap all the time . He would beat me buy a car or so, then we went to the track where that shit didn't work (timing system) his car ran 9.6s to my 9.2s. The lesson here is take it to the track and find out for real.
@KatimmakittyKat1125 Just because it's a 4cyl doesn't mean it gets good milage. As soon as you crank up the boost and open it up, it no longer is a regular efficient 4 banger. My buddy's mild WRX gets worse mileage than his F150 pickup.
yeah morons saying muscle vs import.. both of these cars are made by the same company.... and both of them are pretty quick... give respect where its due... and ignore the 13 yearold's comments that know nothing about cars because they cant drive one yet
@dylanhill16 I know that but to me those srt4s are just as gay ? So again i say to you YO NUT SACK !!! MUSCLE BEATS IMPORT EVERY TIME !!! EVERY TIME!!! HOMO HAHAHA....HAVE SOME MORE NOS DUDE!!! HAHAHA
@dylanhill16 lol, funny thing is dodge isnt american made, so how can you (cocky piece of shit) tell other people to learn shit if yo udont even know. DODGE is made in MEXICO, so techinckally it is imported. wow your a dumby
I Give this vid a thumbs up! Finially a real show of good honest cars running against each other. Why don't thoes Civic HB driving guys race a real Muscle Car like this one? Ricer Excuses? Well one day maybe they will grow balls like the SRT-4 owners. Great show not scared to race a real car. Both kicks ass Plymouth wit a 4 speed, SRT-4s American Muscle.
And outside of the WGA that neon is completely stock... The Mopar stage 1 PCM did nothing for the SRT-4 in performance except allow higher boost levels without a code. I'd say the Neon did pretty good given that it's not modified hardly at all. Still LOLing @ the info section saying the SRT-4 is mildly modified.
So many ignorant comments on youtube car race videos....people can't just say "Good race" They have to talk shit about the cars...there are a lot of good things that can be said about both cars, but instead it's shit talking contest..and most likely between people that drive a Prius or worse
@kens97sto171 Yeah, the Neon is a better daily driver because it's a newer car, but who cares. The satisfaction of owning/driving vintage muscle takes priority over all that other idiosyncricitous crap. OMG, 120 mph to 0, that is pure wreckless driving if you need to SLAM the brakes at 120mph. Only carbon ceramic brakes can hold up to that abuse. Street brakes will burn up. Besides, that poor Neon runs out of breath at 120 MPH, and the 383 would keep on pulling. Low deck Big Blocks like to revv.
First a base model Neo will do 120MPH, and my point was the Neon has much better brakes, if you HAD to do a sudden stop which would you rather have? If you had to do a sudden swerve, which would you rather have? I love old muscle cars too, But sorry, I drive 25,000+ miles a year, I will take NEW FUEL INJECTED RICE every time, and that does not include the Neon either.. only Japanese brands that are also MADE in Japan.
@littleboi91 if muscle has no high end why is that a 87 mustang 5.0 could go over 140? or a 98 camaro has a limiter at 160? both of them are muscle cars. i dont know if you meant the Plymouth or muscle in general though.
@littleboi91 no shit, the Neon is a 5 speed and is also 25 years newer, back in 65 there was no big deal about a 3 mile drag race lol it was about pure acceleration, something that the new cars have NOTHING of!
@littleboi91 You've got to consider the gearing of the two, obviously the 5-speed SRT-4 is geared longer and probably steeper than the Plymouth, which is only a 4 on the floor. You can't push large displacement engines that high up there without forged internals and, like this driver has done, boring it over.
Srt4= lightweight, turbo, quick revving 4 banger, still a neon.
Plymouth= lots of mods, torque monster, big v8, heavy ass car.
Plymouth pulled good for a huge boat, even chirped em in the first race. Nice race. Although the Plymouth had a lot more mods, the weight slowed it down
@pkfloyd420 and they were simple mods on the big block at that! Nice cam with a nice carb/intake and KB pistons that were prolly under $500 brand new, and the thing roars, chirps in 2nd n 3rd, prolly runs mid 11's for a fraction of the cost of other cars that run 11's off the lot, that guy's got a nice ass car! I'm building one somewhat like it, mine's a '73 Fury 400 though.
@blackshadow610 the popular tranny used by mopar for automatics where the 727 torqueflite they are a very strong and reliable transmission like chevys turbo 400 both very good automatic trannys from yesterday
@lovehemi2much oh ok thanks. my sister has an 08 charger auto and my dad has an 08 ram auto and there is a lag while shifting. Im not dissing mopar but they could shift a little faster lol.
dam love the 4 speed. smoked that jap car. win they goina learn theres no replacement for displacement
mopar7378 1 week ago
@mopar7378
could you be more ignorant?
cmucky 1 week ago
@cmucky muscle cars will always win dumshit
mopar7378 1 week ago
@mopar7378 a neon is made by mopar....or atleast has mopar badges and was designed by them. but even the makers of Neons hate that car. and yes, muscle always win.
ScreaminDieselPerf 1 week ago
@ScreaminDieselPerf some of the motors an't mopar. i dont like them there slow and hard to work on
mopar7378 1 week ago
@ScreaminDieselPerf
At least someone here has a brain, thank you!
cmucky 3 days ago
Hell my 87 BMW i will eat that Neon, specialy in a top end race like that,,,DAM,, what is is a little 4cl with a few bolt on's,, how bout a fuel injected strait 6 with cold air ram, and a 5sp w/ 6 od droped 2 in ft and raseid 2 in rear, with 16" , buzzsaw rims,,not bad for a 54 yr old kid
misfitt58 3 weeks ago
that face,,PRICLESS,, he really thought he could win,,LOL,, why do you think they call them Muscle cars ,,,DAA
misfitt58 3 weeks ago
Nothing like getting your ass handed to you by a 47 year old car with a station wagon motor with some head work, intake, and a cam, shaped like a brick. B-body + B-engine = Game Over.
24HourDeerprocessing 3 weeks ago 2
You're all missing one important point, real world roads have things called "corners". It's nice to drive something that you don't have to slow to 10 mph to go around them. It's also nice to have brakes that work, front suspension that actually lets you feel the road, and steering that doesn't feel like stirring mashed potatoes.
ExUSSailor 3 weeks ago
@ExUSSailor dude it's a car from the 60's.it's not a 1903 curved dash olds that might tip over if you take a slight bend at 15mph.
osp80 2 weeks ago
@ExUSSailor You act like owners of muscle cars always utilize the stock suspension. Hell my '73 Fury coupe felt fine going around 50-60 degree corners at 40 mph with all stock or stock-replacement suspension, thats shitty front coils with rear leaf springs that are ten years old and 225 width tires on all fours lol. With some adjustable shocks and sway bars it feels solid at 120+ mph and corners alot better.
SirKowalski666 5 days ago
no replacement for DISPLACEMENT....Wooot
80spodcastchannel 4 weeks ago 2
lets go plymouth
1965cuda273 1 month ago
i love both cars but the belvedere by all means is nastu
moparpower801 1 month ago
Give mom that new shit back... That is funny and that was just a 383 in a heavy car , good job.
rotax7804 1 month ago
MOPAR OR NO CAR
blackvan84 1 month ago
There is NO substitute for cubic inches
rogerstill71 1 month ago
props to the belvedere on the shifting, transmission and clutch are a lot different in the old muscle cars
93fairladytt 1 month ago
Still would take the neon
XxGlobaldance22xX 1 month ago
@XxGlobaldance22xX Wha wha wha why? I don't give a shit if it gets 7 mile to the gallon! it makes sound! Not noise like a strait 4
gunny426plymouth 1 month ago
.. SRT-4 didn't hear the 3rd honk 3 times... LOL! . We drove those 1960's cars to work every day... they got up to 20 MPG in easy driving... would get 25 or better with a modern overdrive transmission...
BuzzLOLOL 1 month ago
That was great hands down it was the Plymouth... But when an 8 cylinder power plant get 10 miles to the gallon and can't drive it to work everyday going agains a little 4 cylinder that get 30 miles to the gallon and can daily drive I know which 1 I would choose........
92sleeperspirit 2 months ago
@92sleeperspirit The 8 cylinder is probably more streetable than a highly modified 4 cylinder with big cams. And your'e talking about the mpg while driving in the city. The V8 will use more gasoline because it makes more power regardless. In-boost, the 4 cylinder probably uses more gas than the 8 cylinder.
candle2k 1 month ago
thats what you damn ricer kids get!
nitrojunkie1029 2 months ago
dude seriously after the 1st race ya didnt get the hint
jukedar 2 months ago
old school Americana muscle still wish they made them like that!!!
prayb4udie 2 months ago
All nerd comments aside this video is highly entertaining.
hillclimber440 2 months ago
The SRT-4 does a 13.5 in the quarter mile...waaay faster than any 383 Plymouth. I think the guy in the SRT-4 was a major pussy shifting. Get the motor in the fucking power band Grandma!. Now with that said a 440 equiped plymouth I'd expect to see the results here not a 383. 383 had to be modded in which case the Neon did alright. My Neon smokes mustangs so seeing a fellow mopar smoke a Neon isn't so bad. Yes I'm a 440 & Hemi guy who drives a gas sipping Neon that eats Mustangs.
Nellysman1 2 months ago
@Nellysman1 I understand sir but remember, not all Mustangs are created equal. I will be more than happy to race you with my 2010 Roush 540RH Mustang in any of your Mopars. I love old school too and grew up with big block muscle cars and I owned several back in the day. They were and still are wonderful machines but the "new" muscle cars are way faster than any of them. My 540 runs as quick and as fast as the old factory drag cars did back in the day with heat and air and power everything.
MRAMX390 2 months ago
@MRAMX390 Ya I would certianly fuckin hope so. Its 40 YEARS newer than any muscle, if it wasnt then there obviosly doing something wrong. But do you know what? I know of an old muscle car that could and would bend that mustang over its lap and slap the paint off its ass. It was called a 1968 Dodge Hemi Dart. Look that thing up. But the newer cars are coool too but they still just dont have the attitude the old muscles did.
AlightBULLDOG 1 month ago
@AlightBULLDOG Oh and if im not mistaken, the new roush mustangs are turbo'd. So then your running an old naturally aspirated motor vs a new turbo'd motor. Just saying
AlightBULLDOG 1 month ago
@AlightBULLDOG I understand and I agree, the new muscle car editions are almost too refined. I grew up driving the original muscle cars when they were dirt cheap. I had big block 4 speed cars and more and we would street race them every Saturday night until the sun came up on Sunday morning. The original Muscle Cars had character and attitude which today's offerings lack but they are very fast none the less. I enjoyed watching, thanks.
MRAMX390 1 month ago
@MRAMX390 Totaly agree with you. But I think since a muscle car is about 40 years out dated, if you were to update the old muscle with newer more advanced tech I think they will run with if not outrun todays top cars. Which they prove every day at NHRA drag strips. Then your getting the best of both worlds. PERFORMANCE and ATTITUDE. I mean people dont even have to do much to get 600hp out of the old big blocks.
AlightBULLDOG 1 month ago
@AlightBULLDOG I am totally into today's resto-mods. I have seen it done both ways, the original body of a vintage muscle car with everything else modern or a new car with vintage sheet metal. You are right though as the original muscle cars with today's technology applied would smoke the new offerings. I had a 455c.i. Oldsmobile 442 that would just smoke the tires off so traction was out of the question. With just modern tire technology the original muscle cars are much quicker.
MRAMX390 1 month ago
Badass! my dad drove a 66 dodge coronet 383 4spd in highschool, it tore up bigblocks of the time 455, 427 gm's this vid gives me an idea of what the 383 mopar was about.
coupe50h 2 months ago
You know, it seems to me that the neon should just give up. I'm not sayin neons are slow, I'm just saying that that belvedere scares me alittle. Sick ride, man. Sick. Ass. Ride.
Mopar78360 3 months ago
yep that "led sled" may seem to have more work but still all motor. yes if neon had higher stage turbo and alittle more to it, it can probably beat the plymouth. but still all motor on a car thats 4yrs shy of being half a century old vs modern technology. dont get me wrong tuners are fast cars with half the engine size but i give credit where credit is due something as old as the plymouth still hanging with modern cars. now on a track with turns muscle odds of winning are slim.
09adge13 3 months ago
Look at the amount of work put into that led sled vs the few things the neon has... lol.
jhorod09 3 months ago
I am a car fan, just to let everyone know before you all disgriminate what I say. I love 4 cylinder cars, but I agree, in drag racing the v8 american cars are the way to go. But with that being said, let me say this also, I DONT CARE ABOUT STUPID DRAG RACING. It is so boring, who wants to race in a straight line all day. Try some real racing, road coarse racing. If you have a big bad v8 american car, please try to road coarse race it and see how it turns out, when you flip in the first turn.lol.
shoemaker671 3 months ago
@shoemaker671 and that my friend, is why the corvette is beast of all worlds
dlinecg 3 months ago
@shoemaker671 ever heard of trans am racing? watch?v=tn0OOSQPXT8
osp80 2 months ago
thats always sweet to see dawm turbo be eat by slepper v8
blowenginefan9118 3 months ago
AMRICAN MUSCLE BABY!!!!
49thdevil 3 months ago
I HAVE TO AGREE-----THE BEL WAS SEXIER------ONLY VIN DIESEL "WANNABES" ARE IMPRESSED WITH THE NEON
timpriddy73 3 months ago
american muscle 4life!
09adge13 4 months ago
too bad the little neon will never come close to the sound of real power like that amazing muscle!
ceetwarrior 4 months ago 2
@ceetwarrior If the "neon" was modded as much as that plymoth was, I think you'd be shocked how amazing the sound would have been ( along with how fast it would have left the plymouth)
deddjay 3 months ago
@deddjay Are you fuckin stupid? You will NEVER be able to compare the sound of a fuckin 4 banger fart to the sound of real muscle. Did you not have a dad or something to teach you right from wrong?!
ceetwarrior 3 months ago
@deddjay Incase you didn't notice, the srt4 was running 20 psi of boost....the 383 was running on atmospheric pressure. Sure the Plymouth had mods but it was simple stuff, same mods I'D do when rebuilding a v8. ANyway, do you know what happens when a big block gets 20 psi of boost down its throat? It goes 8's in the 1/4 at 150+ mph as a full-weight street car.
SirKowalski666 3 months ago
Dude in the belve is a good driver.
cstishenko 4 months ago
NEON WAS ONLY A STAGE ONE! THATS BARELY 500 DOLLARS UNDER THE HOOD!
BboyMobster 4 months ago
GettyUp Belvedeere! Yoooooo Hoooooooo!
crazeyspivey 4 months ago
So much fucking drama on youtube, just watch the god damn video and stop bitching about who's car is better, a real car guy appreciates most any car that deserves it in some degree.
454ns 5 months ago
love the old mopars but currently own a turbo caravan that eats mustangs with ease.Not to mention my big block 72 road runner.
jenny1972ish 5 months ago
i hope you were doing an infomercial on what kind of cars a p.o.s. srt-4 would not have a snowballs chance in hell of beating, and not really thinking "hey i can beat that fucking absolutely gorgeous belvedere"
digmynewsocks 5 months ago
@digmynewsocks funny how the srt-4 is lightly modded, and the belvedere had two short paragraphs of mods. if that srt-4 had the amount of money in it that the other car did, no chance for belvedere. and i am an old school cat, i grew up workin on old school american bad ass'!!! just sayin, give credit where it is deserved. i have seen many a muscle car whoop srt-4's. but i have seen srt-4's turn low 10's at the track and they drive the bitches home! in only a 7 year old car. dam impressive.
Adrenaline96 5 months ago
@Adrenaline96 sorry hafta disagree, yah the neon is "lightly" modded, and yah the plymoth had two short paragraphs of mods, but, the neon wayyyy made up for it in weight advantage, by how much? not sure of exact numbers, but im willing to bet its near half a ton!! as far as giving credit where it is due, yes the srt is indeed a quick little fucker, but holy shit they are ugly, and not just a little!! eye of the beholder i spose.
digmynewsocks 5 months ago
@Adrenaline96 Yes the Belvedere did have more mods but they were the same mods most people do when they rebuild a v8, especially a big block. Another "bored 0.030 over" engine with aluminum pistons (I have similar pistons, 9 to 1 keith blacks, only cost $200) and a good heads/cam/intake setup. The srt4 on the other hand, is much lighter and is running on 19 psi. For having so much more power and torque to give, the 383 did pretty well.
DeAdiSSu3 4 months ago
lol, and that was a 383. Just imagine a GTX with a modified 426 hemi. Your eyes would bleed.
texasjack1978 5 months ago 18
@texasjack1978 or even a 426 wedge
bradnoga 5 months ago
@texasjack1978 lol hell ya seen that before it wasnt pretty for the other guy
2468wdwea 4 months ago
Can't touch old school muscle kiddo's......... Now if it had a 440.......lol Love the old Plymouth
440SwingerKid 5 months ago
@440SwingerKid Better yet... the Hemi was an option in that car.
Polybun 5 months ago
@Polybun a 426 Hemi/performance parts for the Hemi are a little too pricey for me....lol Id stick to 440's plenty of power.
440SwingerKid 5 months ago
@440SwingerKid You do get what you pay for in this world. With that attitude, may as well go buy a chevy, that would be even cheaper.
Polybun 5 months ago
@Polybun So what buy one of the new Junkass crate Hemis??? No I will stick to my old iron block 440's How about you go pick up a Hemi and toss it in something if you have unlimited money to piss away.................. 383/440 both super fantastic motors as is the original 426 Hemis but the new MP crate motor Hemis are piles of junk.
440SwingerKid 5 months ago
@440SwingerKid junk ass?? Are you fucking retarded? It's a high nickel alloy casting just like the origonals and is then put through a 7 step stress relieving process. If there is anything bad about them it's that they are based around the 426 design which did have some short comings. The 426 isn't the origonal in any case! The crate motors use the same heads, same stroke, same bore. Where do you get your information?
Polybun 5 months ago
@Polybun First off I never said the 426 Was the original Hemi...... Second I have personally seen two of the new MP crate Hemis crack for no reason in my buddies Roadrunner both motors were REPLACED by Mopar as they SAID it was a casting flaw..... He ended up going with a Indy 440 based drag motor and has NEVER had any problem and runs awesome. Before you talk out your ass maybe see some real life action of the crate Hemi vs. a old original 426 Hemi.. Original is much better then the MP Crate
440SwingerKid 5 months ago
@440SwingerKid I've got one in my back yard, a '68 block blown off it's main saddles kid. They all fail with enough abuse. Sounds to me like your friend is a bone head.
Polybun 5 months ago
lol you didnt really think you had a chance in a neon did you??
delware420 5 months ago 19
@delware420 what do you mean had a chance? he kept up with him the entire time... that v8 pos almost got raped by a 4 cyl. with a stock turbo lololol
nordicbeast 3 months ago
@TheRacingwits wouldnt have mattered whether peeon heard 3rd or not. it stlil woulda lost. hell ive got an srt4. fun to drive. it wont win against something like this. MIGHT get it out of the hole but distance? no
yamahonkawazuki 6 months ago
racing from a roll...thats old school...like hudson hornets vs olds 88s
crotchboots 6 months ago
so wait a minute yes i own a 4 banger cobalt ss sc modded. So i beat my buddies stage 1 srt4 by 3 cars on a 40 roll. Im thinking id hang in a bit better with this v8 beat i doubt id win but i think id give it a better run
cutegumbygurl 6 months ago
it needs a 440 with 700hp for a heavy car like that !!
midnitesquirldog 6 months ago
@midnitesquirldog The 1965 belvederes only weighed around 3,150 lbs. With a big block and one person sitting in the car, prolly around 3,400 lbs but still, not even as heavy as a 2011 Mustang GT.
DeAdiSSu3 6 months ago
god damn.....that 383 is just music to my ears!
911SHIZBO 6 months ago
i remember when i didnt like these Plymouths cant see why though......... lol i used to think there ugly well times have changed I WANT ONE some one has a 65 Belvy convertible i know ''convertible'' but how many 65 Plymouths do you see in good shape for $3,500? not too many just one problem no money not to mention im 16 and cant legally buy a car ; ( sigh.......................
gunny426plymouth 6 months ago
@gunny426plymouth sure you can legally buyit. jsut cant legally register it. mom and dad can do that for you. if you had the money ;). anyhoo back on topic. doesnt that just suck. you see this. and are well, broke. maybe not broke. but not enough to buy it. anyho when you get the money its long gone lol
yamahonkawazuki 6 months ago
@yamahonkawazuki lol yeah and NOW theres a 65 Sattelite!! coupe i believe a 318 and 727 ehh ok but it IS the exact body style i want! white w red interior thats rare and cool at about the same price too damn...... lil more work but still. i think im just going to stop looking at craigslist. lol and you think my mom wants me in a 60's hot rod? not to mention me restoring it in the garage lol she dont even want me in a pt cruiser! lol we keep tellin her were gonna put a 392 in there!!
gunny426plymouth 6 months ago
@gunny426plymouth lol tell her its for her when its done . just take 10 years finishing it lol
yamahonkawazuki 6 months ago
ill take that Plymouth"
YEE!
brutisking 6 months ago
VERY nice!
clintxoxox 6 months ago
The Belvedere doesn't have too many mods... in realistic terms you're looking at maybe a 400hp engine on the outside... the 383HP was 335hp stock - the specs given in the video are very basic and typical mods... no rocket science there. Still a nice sounding / looking car --- would love to see the neon go against something like a 440+6
rollingthunderrt 6 months ago
I think i would have left the 383 in the garage for #s matching if i needed it and built something with some cubes 426w-440+ Then i wouldn't have to worry about getting beat by a stage 2 srt-4
ChallengerGuy22 6 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 with the work into that 383 it's not worth it as a numbers matching. i have a 64 plymouth fury with a 426 wedge and these things are only worth money original with stock options like A/C, convertible, hemi, 4 speed stock blah blah
Bilskirmir 6 months ago
@Bilskirmir Sorry if i don't understand so are you saying you would leave it stock or that you agree that its a waste pooring money into a high performance 383 build?
ChallengerGuy22 6 months ago
@ChallengerGuy22 i misread your statement my bad
Bilskirmir 6 months ago
@Bilskirmir No worries was just trying to grasp what you were saying
ChallengerGuy22 6 months ago
steel against plastic
bigrockslider 6 months ago
you had your ass pummeled by that real American Muscle...the Belvedere. Pack in it in bitch.
SOFSoldier1 7 months ago
SOUPENE how much money do you have racked up in that malibu and what does it run....clean car btw
superman200355 7 months ago
and i was not saying that he had 10-20 grand in his car i was just saying it is cheaper to make a dsm/srt4/evo fast
superman200355 7 months ago
deadissu3 you have no clue how much proformance parts cost do you....im not saying i know everything nor that im the shit.. but right now i have over 5 grand just in the motor of my car ..to make it just a street car...look at my mod list... not that big of a list and just basic things...and wheres your car...i live in ohio so i shop a summit racing and buschur racing not ebay you better do some math
superman200355 7 months ago
I have a modded srt4 But that cat pulled good nice win!
MrBlackgsxr750 7 months ago
fuck v8s...its kinda sad if you think about it you put 10-20 grand in a v8 and there still getting smoked by srt4/dsm/evo with about 5 grand in them
superman200355 7 months ago
@superman200355 Dude, are you serious? This guy has basic mods on his 383 big block, nice cam/heads/intake with a 750 double pumper and a beefy rear end, i'd be surprised if he put any more than like two or three grand into that and it's still naturally aspirated....
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
@superman200355 HA HA HA HA HA GO BACK TO SCHOOL KID HA HA !!!!!
SOUPENE 7 months ago
correct me if im wrong but the biggest reason the belvedere is killing the srt 4 is not because of hp its the torque...and the 383 was a torque motor...
bluhmty320 7 months ago
@bluhmty320 The 383 might have been a big block and put down good torque, especially with a mod or two, but it could rev freely too because of its slightly shorter stroke and bore compared to a 440 or hemi, they never should've stopped making it.
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
Srt4 Driver " i didnt hear the horn ." when you can clearly hear it on the tape along with the sound of the of the Detroit Muscle kicking his ass . V8s rule the roads!!! didnt the first Fast and the furious teach you anything . a blown motor and the other car still need to double shot nitro to keep up .
2brokenbones 7 months ago
I love how it pulls away in the far end.
Polybun 7 months ago
That thing is bad
jumbojim61 8 months ago
Notice the kid in the 65 always jumped the start a bit . I used to street race a guy that pulled that crap all the time . He would beat me buy a car or so, then we went to the track where that shit didn't work (timing system) his car ran 9.6s to my 9.2s. The lesson here is take it to the track and find out for real.
mopar340360 8 months ago
very impressed with the neon.
TheMoparman94 8 months ago
muscle power!!!
duben89 8 months ago
at 1:21 i work for that trucking company with the yellow tractor and white trailers ESTES Express. haha i just thought that was funny
neonkid98 8 months ago
at 1:22 i work for that trucking company with the yellow tractor and white trailers ESTES Express. haha i just thought that was funny
neonkid98 8 months ago
@neonkid98 well if you see these two morons driving on the street like that again, pull into the middle of the lanes adn put them both in a grave.
Polybun 7 months ago
like em both like the gas milage of the neon though
KatimmakittyKat1125 8 months ago
@KatimmakittyKat1125 Just because it's a 4cyl doesn't mean it gets good milage. As soon as you crank up the boost and open it up, it no longer is a regular efficient 4 banger. My buddy's mild WRX gets worse mileage than his F150 pickup.
TheDoomSquid 8 months ago
like em both like the gas milage of the neon though
KatimmakittyKat1125 8 months ago
HONK HONK HON.......didnt even do a full honk lol
SmokeWeedLikeOxygen 8 months ago
"they've got some nice cars"
only one of the cars is "nice".
WunderDoob 8 months ago
whats that dripping from the SRT-4?...ohh its nothing its just tears!
34D2234 8 months ago
no matter how fast the srt is it will always just be neon.the old plymouth wins by default.
grasscat1977 8 months ago
@grasscat1977 if your a mopar fan it doesnt matter what it is if its an omni or a cuda be a fan no matter what.
neonkid98 8 months ago
Freakin SAWEEEET! Bad ass SRT-4 and another Dodge that is off the chain!
rodlamer 8 months ago
yeah morons saying muscle vs import.. both of these cars are made by the same company.... and both of them are pretty quick... give respect where its due... and ignore the 13 yearold's comments that know nothing about cars because they cant drive one yet
bryanw0087 8 months ago
Dodge is USA made
TOOLEYC1 9 months ago
what happens when the belvedere has to make a turn or stop, not going to happen. nuff said
stairmaster3001 9 months ago
SRT4's are fast...Ive driven them not my style at all its like the modern version of a GremlinX LoL
MullitudeDude 9 months ago
Its funny, that 383 still has soo much more ass left in it, & the 4 banger is already forced induction haha.
AMERICAN PUSHROD V8s FOR THE WIN!!
o56kid 9 months ago
This video is full of WIN. . .
63swbfj45 9 months ago
still pulled on him with a 4spd tranny
dbl0ck13 9 months ago
Oh Mr. Belvedere!
madhatter913 9 months ago
Good fucking pull! There's a a whole lot of Belvedere for that 6pack to yank on too!
anEELinDM4 9 months ago
in this case... its all about whats under the hood
ImTonathyy 9 months ago
HEY NUT SACK! MUSCLE BEATS IMPORTS EVERY TIME EVERY TIME .
deannaber 9 months ago
@deannaber DODGE IS AMERICAN MADE THEREFORE IT'S NOT IMPORTED YOU NUT SACK!! Learn your shit before trying to make fun of people homo.
dylanhill16 9 months ago
@dylanhill16 I know that but to me those srt4s are just as gay ? So again i say to you YO NUT SACK !!! MUSCLE BEATS IMPORT EVERY TIME !!! EVERY TIME!!! HOMO HAHAHA....HAVE SOME MORE NOS DUDE!!! HAHAHA
deannaber 9 months ago
@deannaber
not really. It all depends on power to weight ratio and the driver. And its not an import lol. They are both mopars lol.
kidrobot113 9 months ago
@kidrobot113 Ok i wont call anyone a nut sack anymore lol
deannaber 9 months ago
@dylanhill16 lol, funny thing is dodge isnt american made, so how can you (cocky piece of shit) tell other people to learn shit if yo udont even know. DODGE is made in MEXICO, so techinckally it is imported. wow your a dumby
neddytable 9 months ago
well.......muscle always beats tuner.
TheTeenageMuffin 9 months ago
I Give this vid a thumbs up! Finially a real show of good honest cars running against each other. Why don't thoes Civic HB driving guys race a real Muscle Car like this one? Ricer Excuses? Well one day maybe they will grow balls like the SRT-4 owners. Great show not scared to race a real car. Both kicks ass Plymouth wit a 4 speed, SRT-4s American Muscle.
MixQuisite 9 months ago
Old school still kickin ass and takin names after all these years !
V8Deuce 9 months ago
that belvedere screams !!
96cavi 9 months ago
And outside of the WGA that neon is completely stock... The Mopar stage 1 PCM did nothing for the SRT-4 in performance except allow higher boost levels without a code. I'd say the Neon did pretty good given that it's not modified hardly at all. Still LOLing @ the info section saying the SRT-4 is mildly modified.
MrBadfish2 10 months ago
So many ignorant comments on youtube car race videos....people can't just say "Good race" They have to talk shit about the cars...there are a lot of good things that can be said about both cars, but instead it's shit talking contest..and most likely between people that drive a Prius or worse
MrBadfish2 10 months ago
The Neon didn't have a prayer's chance of winning. "Stock exhaust w/ resonator!" Yeah resonators are waaay better than a header and muffler .
Navajas440 10 months ago
Both are sweet cars, but the neon would make the better daily driver, better in corners, and certainly would stop better.. try a 120mph to 0 test..
kens97sto171 10 months ago
@kens97sto171 Yeah, the Neon is a better daily driver because it's a newer car, but who cares. The satisfaction of owning/driving vintage muscle takes priority over all that other idiosyncricitous crap. OMG, 120 mph to 0, that is pure wreckless driving if you need to SLAM the brakes at 120mph. Only carbon ceramic brakes can hold up to that abuse. Street brakes will burn up. Besides, that poor Neon runs out of breath at 120 MPH, and the 383 would keep on pulling. Low deck Big Blocks like to revv.
ChuckTruck78 9 months ago
@ChuckTruck78
First a base model Neo will do 120MPH, and my point was the Neon has much better brakes, if you HAD to do a sudden stop which would you rather have? If you had to do a sudden swerve, which would you rather have? I love old muscle cars too, But sorry, I drive 25,000+ miles a year, I will take NEW FUEL INJECTED RICE every time, and that does not include the Neon either.. only Japanese brands that are also MADE in Japan.
kens97sto171 9 months ago
@kens97sto171 Yeah do a sudden swerve into a truck at 120mph in your tuner, ill take a 60's dodge/plymouth/chysler anyday
spicoli17 6 months ago
@kens97sto171 good point......although this video has nothing to do with a 120-0 test
keith91z28 8 months ago
MORE LIKE A SRT-SLOW TO ME!!!
rm1133ss 10 months ago
So what was that guy in that Red Piss Cutter trying to prove? That he should stick with his own kind? Beat up on sum Rice Rockets.
yugrbugr 10 months ago
i fucking love watching old cars blow new cars outta the water
quas420 10 months ago
Neon shouldn't race with that muscle anymore.it's clearly that V8 kicks ass everytime,everywhere
MrThegodfather2010 10 months ago
haha lmao just goes to show old school is better
gtrman678 10 months ago
time for stage 3 : )
ChallengerGuy22 11 months ago
Damn, the only thing you can hear is the Plymouth! Nice run! Looks like a blast.
99MCougar 11 months ago 5
muscle car has no High end..if they would off kept on going SRT4 would off took him,...
littleboi91 11 months ago
@littleboi91 if muscle has no high end why is that a 87 mustang 5.0 could go over 140? or a 98 camaro has a limiter at 160? both of them are muscle cars. i dont know if you meant the Plymouth or muscle in general though.
viperdude400ltd 11 months ago
@viperdude400ltd Or... like a Daytona Charger hittin 200 in a nascar race with the 426 hemi =D
spinny360 10 months ago
@spinny360 (cargasm)
viperdude400ltd 7 months ago
@littleboi91 no shit, the Neon is a 5 speed and is also 25 years newer, back in 65 there was no big deal about a 3 mile drag race lol it was about pure acceleration, something that the new cars have NOTHING of!
brandon6pk 11 months ago
@brandon6pk Thats right!Even if they do,your're surrounded by plastic and 400lbs of wiring and sensors..long live the oldies.
whatspainted 10 months ago
@littleboi91 You've got to consider the gearing of the two, obviously the 5-speed SRT-4 is geared longer and probably steeper than the Plymouth, which is only a 4 on the floor. You can't push large displacement engines that high up there without forged internals and, like this driver has done, boring it over.
RedRudythe945OH 11 months ago
haha...hooker headers.
JewdusPriest 11 months ago
Srt4= lightweight, turbo, quick revving 4 banger, still a neon.
Plymouth= lots of mods, torque monster, big v8, heavy ass car.
Plymouth pulled good for a huge boat, even chirped em in the first race. Nice race. Although the Plymouth had a lot more mods, the weight slowed it down
pkfloyd420 11 months ago 9
@pkfloyd420 and they were simple mods on the big block at that! Nice cam with a nice carb/intake and KB pistons that were prolly under $500 brand new, and the thing roars, chirps in 2nd n 3rd, prolly runs mid 11's for a fraction of the cost of other cars that run 11's off the lot, that guy's got a nice ass car! I'm building one somewhat like it, mine's a '73 Fury 400 though.
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
@pkfloyd420
Doubt that. Doesnt cost much to go fast in older cars.
Steroidpoodle 7 months ago
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mopartron3030 6 months ago
old school rules again
monsterchopper1992 11 months ago
ya smoke that pussy!!!!!!
Aguirre693 11 months ago
The Belv seemd a bit more built then the SRT. Lets be fair about it lol.
SR20FTW 11 months ago
The guy driving the SRT-4 doesn't know how to drive
23ThingEvery 11 months ago
gotta love how the front end lifts up and shes gone old school MOPAR!!!
82dodgeram440 1 year ago
@82dodgeram440 How are those old mopar tranny's? Im not too impressed with the newer mopar autos.
blackshadow610 11 months ago
@blackshadow610 the popular tranny used by mopar for automatics where the 727 torqueflite they are a very strong and reliable transmission like chevys turbo 400 both very good automatic trannys from yesterday
lovehemi2much 11 months ago
@lovehemi2much oh ok thanks. my sister has an 08 charger auto and my dad has an 08 ram auto and there is a lag while shifting. Im not dissing mopar but they could shift a little faster lol.
blackshadow610 11 months ago
some Fast and the Furious type shit goin on here lol :)
EpikKustumz 1 year ago
Love it. The old Mopar walks away just like it usually did back in the day.
cincyblows 1 year ago
youre lucky that wasnt a big block mopar lol
suprbird 1 year ago
@suprbird A 383 is a big block ;D
curtknows101 1 year ago