Gun Safes Video with Dye the Safe Guy

[kell490]

Dye, Not sure if you are even looking at this anymore, but I noticed you didn't talk about re-lockers. Isn't a common attack is to use a larger hammer to break the dial off the front then use a punch to knock the rest of the lock loose from the door which will allow the safe to open. I saw a video on youtube and I opened up my amsec it doesn't have a re-locker seems very easy to break into. It's from 1995 says UL, but I think the gun safes from amsec's are cheap.

[MrFretman6]

Dye,

I have a Liberty Centurion Safe I just purchased at a very good price. I was wondering what should I do when securing it to a concrete floor to keep the bottom from rusting? I thought about putting a piece of tar paper between the safe and floor. Does that sound logical to you? Thanks!

[RETIREINARIZONA]

Very nice informative video. I would like a FORT KNOX but do not have enough cash for the "rolls royce" of safes. I will price your American Security. Thank you.

[WeAreTwoDoorsDown]

@MrNo0nekares Lol, someone's on drugs.

[samten10a]

First, keep the bad people out of your home/business.

Second, let them have a safe to brake into, keep noting of value in it.

Third, hid the second safe where they can not find it. Keep it secret keep your values in it.

Fourth, anchoret the safe 6 or 8 points

[wilbeckj]

I have a custom made money safe made in 1930 the doors and walls are 6" thick steel, it has two combinations doors to get inside of it. does anyone have a clue how much it's worth?. it weighs 3k+ its outside dimensions are 3x3x3. I inherited it when my grandpa died

[crackerms0100]

@wilbeckj is it fire rated?

[wilbeckj]

@crackerms0100 6" steel, I would assume it is fire rated for some time

[jwka2001]

awww spokane :P im in wenatchee.

[sanikadisanyaka]

We hit it off so well after another visit busizz4me.info

[Mrcaffinebean]

Excellent video! I'm checking out your site now!

[safeandvaultstore]

Thank you gutts077. We do our best to help customers make an "informed" decision. The AMSEC BF Series gun safe is one of the best gun safes built today. If you need even higher security, checkout the: RF6528 gun safe by AMSEC on our web site. It has an Underwriters Laboratory Burglar Rating of: TL-30. The ONLY TL-30 gun safe on the market today. With a burglar alarm, you could put up to $350,000 of content value in this safe. "Dye the Safe Guy"

[gutts077]

Great video Dye. I am a new shooter in Australia and you video was a great help. Thanks.

[safeandvaultstore]

You are correct. Steelwater is better than most "made in China" gun safes. They have 9 gauge external steel in the body and 1/4" plate in the door. The AMSEC BF Series has 10 gauge external steel plus 16 gauge internal plus the 2" of composite aggregate material in the body. AMSEC has 1/2" A36 steel plate in the door v.s. the 1/4" steel of Steelwater. As in most cases, you get what you pay for. For FIRE, I prefer the Composite Aggregate material over fire board. Thanks: "Dye the Safe Guy"

[safeandvaultstore]

Dear Vincerama, Thanks for your input. Yes, I agree. That is why we list "Gun Cabinets" on our site. They are less costly (starting at $171.00 and UP) and as you say, they "keep YOUR KIDS out of your guns." Better quality safes like the AMSEC BF Series with nearly 1/4" steel in the body and 1/2" steel in the door will keep the Bad Guys out in most cases. Burglar alarms are recommended to and anchoring your safe. Thanks for visiting. "Dye the Safe Guy"

[Vincerama]

Don't forget that even a cheap safe will keep YOUR KIDS out of your guns. Bad guys can pretty much take whatever they want anyway, when you aren't at home.

[newusatech]

One to buy this one i got it on sale for half price. NOW THAT QUOTE IS PRICELESS> TOOOO FUNNY

[Watcher3223]

I look at gun safes this way: a gun safe is an investment. A gun safe is very useful and will last a very, very long time with good care.

It pays to invest in a high quality gun safe because of what it will offer you in the long run. A good gun safe will provide security and will give you time in the protection of your weapons and valuables.

Any safe can be defeated, but it's all a matter of time. A good safe that's properly installed and bolted down will take too long to be defeated.

[safeandvaultstore]

@Watcher3223 I agree completely. The main thing you are doing is "buying time" and slowing down the bad guys. Great advice. We have an old saying in the safe business. Question: What are the three most important things in buying a Home Safe? Answer: Anchor it, Anchor it, Anchor it. Regards: Dye the Safe Guy

[RickBoat]

If you can't bolt to the finished wood floors of a rental, bolt to the walls. Plaster is repairable. But if you don't bolt it down SOMEHOW they take the safe, put it in their truck and take as long as they want.

Put the safe in a closet and the landlord probably won't NOTICE the holes.

[safeandvaultstore]

Dear RickBoat: I would not recommend that you bolt the safe to the wall. Drilling through the safes wall will destroy the fire rating. We recommend that you use toggle bolts into the sub floor. Better to drill four 1/2" holes through the wood floor to protect and keep the gun safe in your home than to worry about hurting the floor. Thanks for contacting us. Dye the Safe Guy

[RickBoat]

@safeandvaultstore as true as that is, if the issue is theft, and not fire, then if you can't drill the floor, then the wall is better than nothing.

On the other hand, note that my comment to the guy was in fact that he should use the floor and put the safe in a closet where the landlord would never notice the holes.

And don't assume floors are wood. Many if not most apartment buildings have concrete floors. Drilling those without attracting attention can be tricky.

[safeandvaultstore]

@RickBoat Thanks for your response. Yes, concrete floors are better. We advise people to anchor into concrete floors using "drop in concrete expansion bolts". These can be removed when you leave and by using some "Quick Concrete" available at Home Depot or Lowe's you can back fill the holes easily. You can also buy the concrete anchors there. Better to "beg for forgiveness" than "ask for permission" when securing your guns. Dye the Safe Guy

[iamcondescending]

@safeandvaultstore well i wouldn't go drilling in my floors without checking with the landlord first cuz who knows if you're living in a structurally improtant part of the building i know i wouldn't risk it.

[guyNbluejeans]

Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge.

[HarmonyChurch88]

Very informative, Thanks for posting.

[IronicallyVague]

You can't save money when buying a safe...

Those Walmart cheap gun safes will pop open if you punch the door about a foot down from the handle...

& bigger the better, best way for the smaller ones is to take the whole safe & push it off a overpass & shoot it with a shotgun

[safeandvaultstore]

Dear Ironically Vague: I totally agree with you. The cheap "big box store" safes will NOT provide any burglar protection. Easy to open. I would save the cost of shotgun shells and just not buy a thin walled "big box store" safe anyway. Buy the AMSEC BF Model Gun Safe. 1/2" solid steel door and nearly 1/4" of steel in the body. NOW, that is REAL protection. Plus, a U.L. Burglar rating and 90 minutes of fire protection. Thanks for your comments. Dye the Safe Guy

[mosinnagant76]

I noticed that the "second best" safe in this video had a thin door compared the the mesa safe. Even though the metal may have been thicker, wouldn't it be easier for a crow bar to work on the thinner door than the thicker one? is there really a way to completely break into a safe by punching a few holes through the metal? I don't see how you would actually be able to open it by poking holes in it.

What would you recommend doing for a college student that can't anchor the safe?

[safeandvaultstore]

Dear Mosinnagant76: Thanks for your questions. Yes, thinner metal would be easier to work on. The demonstration where I punch holes is to show that the 18 gauge metal is so thin that you can cut a 6" by 6" hole in some cheap gun safes with a screwdriver and a carpenters hammer. 10 gauge steel is going to fight back better than 20 gauge steel. That is .035" v.s. .134" Much harder to open a 6" square hole. Regarding student that can't anchor the safe? What are you trying to protect?

[mosinnagant76]

Ok, now I see why a "harder" metal would be better. As far as what I am protecting, it will be about 10 or more rifles/shotguns and then handguns plus maybe my laptop when I am not home. I have been acquiring them for a while and some are very important to me. I have an M1 Garand that is in pristine condition and I can't just replace that like a new hunting rifle off of the shelf. I am renting a 1930's house with original wood floors and I can't drill into them or do any damage.

[dlw8977]

10 gauge steel on the sides and back? Who cares about the door thickness when the rest is like breaking into a beer can!!!!!

[safeandvaultstore]

Dear dlw8977, Yes, most gun safes today have thinner walls than the AMSEC BF Series. At least the two walls of the AMSEC are almost 1/4" of steel. Better than a beer can! :^) If you want gun safe security, try the AMSEC RF 6528. This is a TL-30 High Security Gun Safe. ONLY one made today. Banks use TL-30 Burglar Ratings for their safes. NOW, that is a secure gun safe with the equivalent of over 1" of metal on all six sides. Check it out at our site. Thanks for your input. Dye the Safe Guy

[lexmark136]

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