@TheYouwontgetit No, the men who walk into these situations thinking they're going to have sex with a minor are the predators. Why are you defending these perverts?
@thafoofa ...i do not consider them perverts since it is legal in my country - germany - to have sex with a 14 year old person and older... ...also the agents actively hunt them and talk them into sex - that is not something kids do...
@TheYouwontgetit its true the agents hunt them and press the sex issue, interesting the age of consent over there is 14, really changes the perspective of things. however some of these dudes are on here for as young as 12
@TheYouwontgetit legal or not having sex with somebody that young is just messed up. The agents talk them into sex? That doesn't make it right either. "It's not my fault your honor, they talked me into killing that person" That doesn't make it an excuse. You're gonna jump the bridge and yell " they talked me into jumping!!"? Laws and governments tell you what's right or wrong? Please think again, for your own sake and mind.
@upc04539 funny because i see people kill other people everyday in the world because someone told them to... either 'legit'(war) or nonlegit(jealousy).
@TheYouwontgetit What I also know is that if somebody would try to touch my daughters I would go nuts. I don't need a law to tell me it's legal or not, bad or wrong. It's a feeling I can't deny. These men knows what they do is wrong. When they have kids and Chris ask them about it, they know they wouldn't let anybody touch their children. What gives THEM the right to have sex with other people's children? If you are convinced something is wrong, nobody can talk you into doing it.
@TheYouwontgetit Were you born and raised in Germany? Or, are you an American who feels better about this activity being legal in your current country because you're attracted to under age females?
@klwewf ...neither nor... ...i am also not attracted to under age females - under 14 or better to say pre-pubescent... ...as every normal and healthy man i am attracted to young yet fully grown girls which usually happens around or slightly after the age of 14...
He's trying to blame the internet or the decoy. It's so simple. If a girl tells you on the internet that she's 13 or 14, then get the fuck off ot that chat. I like how he says 'That ain't mine" when asked if the dick he sent to the little girl was his. And to top it all off, he wants a sip of punch before he leaves. He also knew that this was a dateline setup because as soon as Hansen came out, he said that the cops are waiting outside for him. Good luck, sex offender.
ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:13:36 PM): sorry im not gonna play games. I didnt think you were serious. Goodbye( Temper temper! )
ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:14:31 PM): i told you i would call you...Obviously you are just a fake ass( And we wouldn't want you to waste your time talking to a FAKE 12 year old, now would we. Oh wait, yes we would! )
"CAuse youre hot" there was a webpage that has a chat transcript that shows things like "conjole" taunt, pester, harass, taunt, coax, hound, bedivil, persistent, blandish, ect...
i find the show amusing, but i feel bad for the guys that get arrested,, (not all of them..) she said "just picture me naked and come on in" i think that's just luring them into getting arrested. but that's just my view on this...
He only served 1 day in jail. But he shouldn't have been arrested at all because he knew it was a set-up. He was a dumb shit for showing up knowing it was a trap. Almost everyone arrested in this sting got off easy. Fuck you, NBC. Fuck you, Chris Hansen. Fuck you, Perverted Justice. Fuck you, Long Beach PD.
Best way to tell if you're chatting with a cop/decoy and NOT a real teen girl is to make up a second screen name and contact this person using your new ID and identify yourself as a teenage boy of the same age. A real teen girl would rather chat with someone her own age. A cop/decoy will write "You're too young" or "I only like older guys" or "Guys my age are stupid/retarded."Cops/decoys will NOT chat with someone they think is underage because their job is to set up adult men ONLY, not boys.
More red flag warning signs............the decoy tells Rick that he is "hot" and that she doesn't like guys her age because they are stupid and retarded. She only likes older, mature guys. Rick was a total dumb ass for showing up when he knew full well that it was a set up.
This guy was a total dumb ass. He knew it was a set-up and he still showed up at the house. All the red flag warning signs were there. The decoy refused to say explicitly what she wanted to do, she refused to show her tits, ass, or pussy on web cam, and she told me to show up at exactly 12:00. Those are all red flags warning signs of a set-up. Don't be stupid, guys. Learn the warning signs so that you don't become another victim of police entrapment.
Also, I highly doubt there are many juvenile girls that would seduce older men in such a way had they not been instructed by MSNBC or the cops to do so.
Is this even legit? He doesn't even read him the Miranda rights. Hansen just goes ahead and questions him while he's being recorded.
Also, these guys who fall for this trick are the real victims, because they were the ones pressured into doing it, instead of the other way around. I know that they're stupid and sick minded for actually following through with it, but had they not have been lured in such a way, they probably would have lived on as normal people.
@cryora Hansen's a reporter. Reporters don't Mirandize people, cops do.
Pressured into doing it? Nobody induced the Ricktard to say "can I tease and please your ______." That was the FIRST LINE he said in the chat! You're acting like they used Jedi mind tricks when all they did was wait for the predators to bite.
@elgilicious I think what the reporters are having those girls do are going to far. They're basically exploiting the girls and having them practice their seduction skills in a legally safe environment. It's like teaching them that naughtiness is okay as long as the law is on their side, but the law is not the same thing as morality.
@cryora The in-house decoy is an adult actress, and the online decoys are adult volunteers. They're not "girls," but grown men and women. You should study something before you criticize it.
@elgilicious That's not to say I am convinced yet that these actors are grown adults, cause I'm not, but what these actors are doing are not just "presenting an opportunity" to the predator, they are actually encouraging the predator to commit a crime. That's entrapment.
@cryora Wrong. They encouraged the predators to show up to the house, but the online solicitation had already occurred. You can't be entrapped if you've already committed a crime. Also, they want the predators to show up to the house so the cops can arrest them in the same place; it's purely a logistics matter. Please stop disseminating falsehoods about the law.
@elgilicious You've just confused me with that comment. You said that they've already committed a crime and cannot be entrapped, but the online solicitation is the entrapment. Are you just trying to confuse me into believing you know what you're talking about?
@cryora No, I'm trying to explain to someone very stupid what entrapment is. Entrapment is a crime that the government commits when it induces people to commit crimes they otherwise wouldn't commit. There was no entrapment here b/c the predators solicited minors all on their own free will. Luring the guys to the house is also not entrapment b/c the solicitation already took place. It's really very simple to comprehend.
@elgilicious I don't think you understand what I am trying to explain. It's as though you're not capable of logical argument. Every single comment of yours has to have an insult. If that's what you want to do, then I can go all night long, but if you're serious about discussing the matter like adults then at least try to listen to what I have to say. What I am trying to explain is very simple.
@cryora I'm insulting you b/c you're an idiot who refuses to admit that you're wrong. There was no entrapment here; the judge seemed to agree, b/c Ricktard is a registered sex offender. Learn the law and stop spewing lies.
@elgilicious While I cannot say the same for the other predators that have appeared on this show, this particular person, Rick, was actually trying to get out of this one, but actors still egged him on. He didn't do it completely on his free will, though you might hold him responsible as an adult. You can't say that he was the one who solicited the minor when it's the actor that is trying to get him to agree to sex, hence an entrapment. Do you know get what I am saying?
@cryora Ricktard's request that the decoy leave him alone was just a ruse b/c he re-initiated contact with the decoy. Furthermore, nobody tried to get him to agree to sex; indeed, he tried to get the decoy to agree to have sex with him. You have all the facts wrong, which is odd b/c it's pretty simple to comprehend what happened. Legally, PJ and NBC did nothing wrong.
@cryora Like I already said, the decoy was just trying to get the guy to show up to the house a) to be interviewed by Chris Hansen and b) to be arrested in the same place as the other predators. Before he ever showed up to the house, he had already committed the crime of solicitation by getting the decoy to agree to sex. It would only be entrapment if the cops induced Rick to solicit a minor. But, again, he did that all by himself.
@elgilicious So you're saying that even if he hadn't shown up to the house the cops could have still arrested him anyway if they knew his address? And why is the girl making comments like he's hot, she's more mature, and that he better hurry up cause he's wasting his time? Cause even though she's trying to get him to come, she's also expressing (although lying) her own intent for sex with him. It may not be a straight up yeah, I want to have sex with you, but it's giving him ideas nonetheless
@cryora She says those things to get him to come to the house, b/c it's easier than tracking down every predator and arresting them at their home/office. You also don't need an arrest warrant if you make the arrest in public, which also saves time. Getting him to come to the house occurs AFTER he committed the crime of solicitation; it doesn't entrap him into committing it.
@elgilicious I don't know about unwelcomed since he did ask her to leave him alone, but that's a little iffy. What about psychological manipulation/coercion?
@elgilicious So it's all his fault, and Dateline NBC, Hansen, and the actors did not do anything wrong, but actually did a service to the world by removing a disgusting pedophilic perverted man off the streets and off the internet and should be regarded as heroes?
@elgilicious In my opinion, it's conformity. I am very capable developing conformist opinions as it takes little intellect to have. It's exactly what I would expect a typical person to say the first moment they watch the show. I prefer to go beyond that and analyze things in greater depth, and not let the video create my opinion for me.
@cryora Your independent opinions lacked any shred of intellectual thought., You were mistaken about (among other things) the basic strategy of the sting operation, the definition of "entrapment," and the contents of the chat logs. I'd rather be conformist and correct than independent and incorrect like you.
@elgilicious You've basically avoided discussing whether the actor was wrong altogether. All you said was, "She did it to get him to come in, she did it to get him to come in." I'm not talking about that, since that is pretty obvious. I'm talking about the means in which she got him to come in. Yes, I was mistaken about entrapment, but my core argument isn't about whether any unlawful action took place, it was about sheer morality.
@cryora Just ignore this "elgilicious" ass hole. He is a narrow minded, fascist, hypocritical shit head just like Chris Hansen and the rest of NBC. He thinks he is always right and he knows everything. He's really a fat, ugly, sexually frustrated 50 year old virgin man in real life.
As opposed to a moronic pederast like yourself that's still butthurt that your brothers in crime were busted on this show after all these years? Chris relishes at sick fucks like you foaming over the mouth over his good work. =)
@Pasdaran As opposed to a 50 year old troglodyte virgin caveman like yourself that is too much of a coward and a pussy to go outside in the real world. Are you this guy's secret gay lover ? You must be. This piece of shit TV show is off the air forever and is NEVER, EVER coming back. =)
@Pasdaran In case you haven't noticed dick face, no one uses Yahoo Messenger or AOL chat rooms anymore. Everyone uses Twitter, You Tube, and Facebook now. Everyone uses smart phone, I-Pads, and tablets now and NOT computers. Move out of your parent's basement and get a clue of what is happening in the real world, dumb shit. It is 2011 and not 1995. Fuckin' retard. You really are a lost cause. =)
@Pasdaran In their last sting (without the help of Dateline NBC), they caught 4 "potential sexual predators". As opposed to 51 "potential sexual predators" that they caught in Long Beach, CA in 2006 with the help of Dateline NBC. Do the math, dumb shit, and you will see that without the power of television, PJ is useless and powerless. Retard. =)
@cryora Getting the predators to show up to the house by saying "you're hot" and "I like older people" is not immoral: the former is a compliment, and the latter is a statement of one's social preference. Neither one is an inducement to have sex. Not even close.
@cryora In both pairs of quotes, Rick solicits the minor for sex, and the decoy plays along. Obviously, the decoy is supposed to agree to the sex; otherwise, the predators won't show up to the house. Everything is on the up-and-up.
@elgilicious Well alright then. Perhaps I've just jumped to conclusions without reading the dialogue. I appreciate your time to clarify everything, though not the insults. I'll just going to go back to watching Bait Car now, since To Catch a Predator is just depressing.
@elgilicious While the actors get to benefit from the experience because it expands their occupation opportunities in Hollywood, and are off the hook from being accused of any type of wrongdoing because the are affiliated with NBC, who can afford the lawyers needed to have their backs in case anything happens. Plus, like Hansen said himself, blaming the victim is always wrong and the actors in the sting operation are always the victims.
This guy was one of the biggest dumb asses of all. He knew he was talking to a cop on-line and he knew it was a set up. And he still showed up at the house. Dumb ass. If he knew it was a set up, why did he ask Chris Hansen "Who are you ?"
Most common phrases that cops and decoys use to set up adult men are: I only like older guys I hate guys my age Guys my age are stupid/retarded You're really hot/nice I like people that are nice I hate my mom/dad My mom/dad is dead I ain't no baby I have a calling card I guess, I dunno, Maybe I've never done/tried that before That might be cool/fun What's Dateline NBC? I have a pic on my profile I would if you were here Can I call you? What car do you drive? Where do you work? misspelled words
He only served 1 day in jail. He shouldn't have been arrested at all because he knew it was a set-up and he knew this "girl" was not 13 and this girl is soooooooooooooooooooo fuckin' ugly. Probably the ugliest girl they've ever used.
This guy knew damn well it was a set-up and he knew he was chatting with a cop. He ever wrote it in his chat log. If these "potential sexual predators" get arrested because they "think" the other person is underage, then why do they guys who know it's a set-up get arrested ? That's fuckin bull shit
I have to wonder if these guys are actually predators. I think of a predator as somebody who goes out looking for sex with children, but in this situation it is more like they were solicited and offered the sex. I think it is a little different. It may still be wrong, but I'm more concerned about the guys who want to kidnap my daughter and take her off and rape her and dump her body in a lake.
@adric22 well that is kinda the big question isnt it? would these men have done this if they hadnt been in this situation? im not saying its right what there doing is wrong and they should have a lesson learned. however some of them ARE predetors. but this show is all about the ratings
@WhatsAYak Yeah but the profile stated 102. He could've gotten off on a technicality. Plus you can tell that he didn't feel right fucking a 12 year old. The decoy started to be the pushy one and to tell the truth, when a woman is sexually pushy it is very hard to resist. It doesn't excuse his terrible behaviour but he shouldn't be branded a "predator". He was probably just a lonely bum. It may even be considered entrapment
IF pervertedjustice was such a good orgainization, instead of coaxing these guys into coming over via sexual inuendo's, they'd offer them help isntead and try to get some rehibilitation going. They wave coke infont of the addict then call them druggies for using it.
@Ironwind1972 yes and maybe that would help some, but a few would still go back to their lives of wrong, the system will never be perfect, no matter how much 'help' these people get, there will always be a flaw
@shopetozilla I think the same thing. She practically BEGGED him to come over. I mean, if they were pressuring the kid into letting them come over it should be different.
"On her profile it says 102...How does Yahoo let these people on?" Jesus Christ, I don't know whether to laugh or get pissed. What a piece of shit this guy is.
But seriously did he think he was meeting with a 102-year-old? That's fuckin gross, dude. I'd rather have a circle jerk with my dad and grandpa than even SEE a 102-year-old pussy.
A lot of these guys, even after they are confronted, seem not to realize that the "girl" they thought they were talking to was a fabrication for the purpose of the sting, so they still think they can lie their way out. I guess they think the girl they were meeting freaked out before they got there and called NBC headquarters, who rushed down from New York and set up a whole studio in the house during the hour or so it took the guy to get there.
Lol that's what I thought from the first episode I watched. Its so funny how oblivious they are, but then again they don't tell them til the end that its a news story. Most people if they don't know who Chris is, tend to think hes the decoys father.
Regardless its hilarious seeing these guys get busted for this, couldn't imagine what goes on in the homes where its the real deal.
* puts sunglasses on * pours drink * likeaboss
sabotaz90 1 month ago
Looks like Chris really enjoys reading those chat logs :DD Blank blank blank
Wiizl 2 months ago
Sounds like you want to sexual please a 102 year old woman lmfao.
todd8333 2 months ago
chris hansen is a dick...Lol.
micahstateman 2 months ago
lol pwned! nice touch
Gsdizzle19 2 months ago
I love how they have NBC on the TV when Chris walks in! Hahaha!
stfunradrew 2 months ago
Last drink of kool -aid bro....It will be a while till you get somemore
ThisUserNameUnknown 3 months ago
XD them cops was ready to rush his a**
15551cue 4 months ago
"my name is chris hanson and im with dateline NBC"
man- *puts on sun glasses*
"i just got owned by chris hanson"
stryker091 4 months ago
0:58... just picture me naked and come on in...? ...now that just cannot happen in real life...
TheYouwontgetit 4 months ago
the men are not predators... the girls/fbi agents/decoys are...
TheYouwontgetit 4 months ago
@TheYouwontgetit No, the men who walk into these situations thinking they're going to have sex with a minor are the predators. Why are you defending these perverts?
thafoofa 3 months ago
@thafoofa ...i do not consider them perverts since it is legal in my country - germany - to have sex with a 14 year old person and older... ...also the agents actively hunt them and talk them into sex - that is not something kids do...
TheYouwontgetit 3 months ago
@TheYouwontgetit its true the agents hunt them and press the sex issue, interesting the age of consent over there is 14, really changes the perspective of things. however some of these dudes are on here for as young as 12
rolewnik283 3 months ago
@TheYouwontgetit legal or not having sex with somebody that young is just messed up. The agents talk them into sex? That doesn't make it right either. "It's not my fault your honor, they talked me into killing that person" That doesn't make it an excuse. You're gonna jump the bridge and yell " they talked me into jumping!!"? Laws and governments tell you what's right or wrong? Please think again, for your own sake and mind.
upc04539 3 months ago
@upc04539 funny because i see people kill other people everyday in the world because someone told them to... either 'legit'(war) or nonlegit(jealousy).
killzone2000 1 month ago
@TheYouwontgetit What I also know is that if somebody would try to touch my daughters I would go nuts. I don't need a law to tell me it's legal or not, bad or wrong. It's a feeling I can't deny. These men knows what they do is wrong. When they have kids and Chris ask them about it, they know they wouldn't let anybody touch their children. What gives THEM the right to have sex with other people's children? If you are convinced something is wrong, nobody can talk you into doing it.
upc04539 3 months ago
@TheYouwontgetit Were you born and raised in Germany? Or, are you an American who feels better about this activity being legal in your current country because you're attracted to under age females?
klwewf 3 months ago
@klwewf ...neither nor... ...i am also not attracted to under age females - under 14 or better to say pre-pubescent... ...as every normal and healthy man i am attracted to young yet fully grown girls which usually happens around or slightly after the age of 14...
TheYouwontgetit 3 months ago
His dick led the way into the house.
MrLen120453 4 months ago
It's amazing. When this guy puts his sunglasses on it's like he's hidden! No one can see him with his magic sunglasses on!
SubconsciousGatherer 4 months ago
If she is under 18, suggest that she should wait for true love. Then excuse yourself.
LifeIsABigPuzzle 5 months ago
@LifeIsABigPuzzle ...or just fuck her in the ass in a country where this is perfectly legal...
TheYouwontgetit 4 months ago
Rick's talented tongue will be put to good use in Chino Prison. Tossing Salads.
RightWingHunter666 5 months ago
omg that Rick guy looks like Josh King this guy I know and he used to have a crush on a 14 year old girl too, wow scary!!
xcutegirlx25 5 months ago
goes out in style!
MrConzahOne 5 months ago
"In her profile it says 102. How does Yahoo let those people online?" LOL
claycoff87 6 months ago
omg i LOLED at 2:41 chris saying pwned
TheGLfilms 6 months ago
He's trying to blame the internet or the decoy. It's so simple. If a girl tells you on the internet that she's 13 or 14, then get the fuck off ot that chat. I like how he says 'That ain't mine" when asked if the dick he sent to the little girl was his. And to top it all off, he wants a sip of punch before he leaves. He also knew that this was a dateline setup because as soon as Hansen came out, he said that the cops are waiting outside for him. Good luck, sex offender.
taypar11 6 months ago
this is bull the police lie and say there 12 but there really 18
killerohio 6 months ago
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killerohio 6 months ago
Hello, how are you doing? Can I tease and please your blank with my tongue?
ImperialDecree 6 months ago
LOL, To catch a predator likes X-Games!
whitebrad25 6 months ago
verification recording ?
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
verification recording
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:13:36 PM): sorry im not gonna play games. I didnt think you were serious. Goodbye( Temper temper! )
ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:14:31 PM): i told you i would call you...Obviously you are just a fake ass( And we wouldn't want you to waste your time talking to a FAKE 12 year old, now would we. Oh wait, yes we would! )
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
on perverted justice the "[ verification recording ] 's" recordings what we heard in the beginning is not on his PJ page
the verification recording in the beginning is on perverted justice somewhere
Corey made an offer, then he just couldn't refuse to follow through.
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
I wonder if you can get the AUDIO FILE for this phone call on Perverted Justice?
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
IS THIS FROM MSNBC PREDATOR RAW?
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
"CAuse youre hot" there was a webpage that has a chat transcript that shows things like "conjole" taunt, pester, harass, taunt, coax, hound, bedivil, persistent, blandish, ect...
MichaelHansenFUN 7 months ago
0:53 "Oh shit, back in the van guys, back in the van!"
Bovolt 7 months ago
i find the show amusing, but i feel bad for the guys that get arrested,, (not all of them..) she said "just picture me naked and come on in" i think that's just luring them into getting arrested. but that's just my view on this...
ianmeesters88 7 months ago
He only served 1 day in jail. But he shouldn't have been arrested at all because he knew it was a set-up. He was a dumb shit for showing up knowing it was a trap. Almost everyone arrested in this sting got off easy. Fuck you, NBC. Fuck you, Chris Hansen. Fuck you, Perverted Justice. Fuck you, Long Beach PD.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
Best way to tell if you're chatting with a cop/decoy and NOT a real teen girl is to make up a second screen name and contact this person using your new ID and identify yourself as a teenage boy of the same age. A real teen girl would rather chat with someone her own age. A cop/decoy will write "You're too young" or "I only like older guys" or "Guys my age are stupid/retarded."Cops/decoys will NOT chat with someone they think is underage because their job is to set up adult men ONLY, not boys.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
TWAS A TRAP MY GOODSIR
ThePencil901 7 months ago
More red flag warning signs............the decoy tells Rick that he is "hot" and that she doesn't like guys her age because they are stupid and retarded. She only likes older, mature guys. Rick was a total dumb ass for showing up when he knew full well that it was a set up.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
This guy was a total dumb ass. He knew it was a set-up and he still showed up at the house. All the red flag warning signs were there. The decoy refused to say explicitly what she wanted to do, she refused to show her tits, ass, or pussy on web cam, and she told me to show up at exactly 12:00. Those are all red flags warning signs of a set-up. Don't be stupid, guys. Learn the warning signs so that you don't become another victim of police entrapment.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
Also, I highly doubt there are many juvenile girls that would seduce older men in such a way had they not been instructed by MSNBC or the cops to do so.
cryora 7 months ago
Is this even legit? He doesn't even read him the Miranda rights. Hansen just goes ahead and questions him while he's being recorded.
Also, these guys who fall for this trick are the real victims, because they were the ones pressured into doing it, instead of the other way around. I know that they're stupid and sick minded for actually following through with it, but had they not have been lured in such a way, they probably would have lived on as normal people.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Hansen's a reporter. Reporters don't Mirandize people, cops do.
Pressured into doing it? Nobody induced the Ricktard to say "can I tease and please your ______." That was the FIRST LINE he said in the chat! You're acting like they used Jedi mind tricks when all they did was wait for the predators to bite.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious I think what the reporters are having those girls do are going to far. They're basically exploiting the girls and having them practice their seduction skills in a legally safe environment. It's like teaching them that naughtiness is okay as long as the law is on their side, but the law is not the same thing as morality.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora The in-house decoy is an adult actress, and the online decoys are adult volunteers. They're not "girls," but grown men and women. You should study something before you criticize it.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious Proof?
cryora 7 months ago
@elgilicious It still seems like borderline entrapment to me.
cryora 7 months ago
@elgilicious That's not to say I am convinced yet that these actors are grown adults, cause I'm not, but what these actors are doing are not just "presenting an opportunity" to the predator, they are actually encouraging the predator to commit a crime. That's entrapment.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Wrong. They encouraged the predators to show up to the house, but the online solicitation had already occurred. You can't be entrapped if you've already committed a crime. Also, they want the predators to show up to the house so the cops can arrest them in the same place; it's purely a logistics matter. Please stop disseminating falsehoods about the law.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious You've just confused me with that comment. You said that they've already committed a crime and cannot be entrapped, but the online solicitation is the entrapment. Are you just trying to confuse me into believing you know what you're talking about?
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora No, I'm trying to explain to someone very stupid what entrapment is. Entrapment is a crime that the government commits when it induces people to commit crimes they otherwise wouldn't commit. There was no entrapment here b/c the predators solicited minors all on their own free will. Luring the guys to the house is also not entrapment b/c the solicitation already took place. It's really very simple to comprehend.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious I don't think you understand what I am trying to explain. It's as though you're not capable of logical argument. Every single comment of yours has to have an insult. If that's what you want to do, then I can go all night long, but if you're serious about discussing the matter like adults then at least try to listen to what I have to say. What I am trying to explain is very simple.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora I'm insulting you b/c you're an idiot who refuses to admit that you're wrong. There was no entrapment here; the judge seemed to agree, b/c Ricktard is a registered sex offender. Learn the law and stop spewing lies.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious Am I wrong? If I am then maybe it's because you're creating a hostile and defensive communication atmosphere.
cryora 7 months ago
@elgilicious While I cannot say the same for the other predators that have appeared on this show, this particular person, Rick, was actually trying to get out of this one, but actors still egged him on. He didn't do it completely on his free will, though you might hold him responsible as an adult. You can't say that he was the one who solicited the minor when it's the actor that is trying to get him to agree to sex, hence an entrapment. Do you know get what I am saying?
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Ricktard's request that the decoy leave him alone was just a ruse b/c he re-initiated contact with the decoy. Furthermore, nobody tried to get him to agree to sex; indeed, he tried to get the decoy to agree to have sex with him. You have all the facts wrong, which is odd b/c it's pretty simple to comprehend what happened. Legally, PJ and NBC did nothing wrong.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious Then explain to me what the girl was doing the first minute of the video. What's your interpretation of it?
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Like I already said, the decoy was just trying to get the guy to show up to the house a) to be interviewed by Chris Hansen and b) to be arrested in the same place as the other predators. Before he ever showed up to the house, he had already committed the crime of solicitation by getting the decoy to agree to sex. It would only be entrapment if the cops induced Rick to solicit a minor. But, again, he did that all by himself.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious So you're saying that even if he hadn't shown up to the house the cops could have still arrested him anyway if they knew his address? And why is the girl making comments like he's hot, she's more mature, and that he better hurry up cause he's wasting his time? Cause even though she's trying to get him to come, she's also expressing (although lying) her own intent for sex with him. It may not be a straight up yeah, I want to have sex with you, but it's giving him ideas nonetheless
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora She says those things to get him to come to the house, b/c it's easier than tracking down every predator and arresting them at their home/office. You also don't need an arrest warrant if you make the arrest in public, which also saves time. Getting him to come to the house occurs AFTER he committed the crime of solicitation; it doesn't entrap him into committing it.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious Right, but her behavior in itself seems liable to sexual harassment charges.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Um...you can't sexually harass somebody who solicited you for sex. Harassment by definition is unwelcome.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious I don't know about unwelcomed since he did ask her to leave him alone, but that's a little iffy. What about psychological manipulation/coercion?
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora As I said, he asked her to leave him alone, then reinitiated contact with the decoy and continued to talk about having sex with her.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious So it's all his fault, and Dateline NBC, Hansen, and the actors did not do anything wrong, but actually did a service to the world by removing a disgusting pedophilic perverted man off the streets and off the internet and should be regarded as heroes?
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora That's the only intelligent thing you've said so far. I'm glad I could finally get you to stop spewing lies and nonsense.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious In my opinion, it's conformity. I am very capable developing conformist opinions as it takes little intellect to have. It's exactly what I would expect a typical person to say the first moment they watch the show. I prefer to go beyond that and analyze things in greater depth, and not let the video create my opinion for me.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Your independent opinions lacked any shred of intellectual thought., You were mistaken about (among other things) the basic strategy of the sting operation, the definition of "entrapment," and the contents of the chat logs. I'd rather be conformist and correct than independent and incorrect like you.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious You've basically avoided discussing whether the actor was wrong altogether. All you said was, "She did it to get him to come in, she did it to get him to come in." I'm not talking about that, since that is pretty obvious. I'm talking about the means in which she got him to come in. Yes, I was mistaken about entrapment, but my core argument isn't about whether any unlawful action took place, it was about sheer morality.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Just ignore this "elgilicious" ass hole. He is a narrow minded, fascist, hypocritical shit head just like Chris Hansen and the rest of NBC. He thinks he is always right and he knows everything. He's really a fat, ugly, sexually frustrated 50 year old virgin man in real life.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
@MikeLongJohnson
As opposed to a moronic pederast like yourself that's still butthurt that your brothers in crime were busted on this show after all these years? Chris relishes at sick fucks like you foaming over the mouth over his good work. =)
Pasdaran 7 months ago
@Pasdaran As opposed to a 50 year old troglodyte virgin caveman like yourself that is too much of a coward and a pussy to go outside in the real world. Are you this guy's secret gay lover ? You must be. This piece of shit TV show is off the air forever and is NEVER, EVER coming back. =)
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
@MikeLongJohnson
This show being off the air is irrelevant. Sick pederasts like you will never be able to roam online for minors like you used to. ^_^
Pasdaran 7 months ago
@Pasdaran In case you haven't noticed dick face, no one uses Yahoo Messenger or AOL chat rooms anymore. Everyone uses Twitter, You Tube, and Facebook now. Everyone uses smart phone, I-Pads, and tablets now and NOT computers. Move out of your parent's basement and get a clue of what is happening in the real world, dumb shit. It is 2011 and not 1995. Fuckin' retard. You really are a lost cause. =)
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
@MikeLongJohnson
No matter what pederast loons like you use the authorities and the public at large are more aware of what sick shit your kind is up to.
Oh and continue pissing and moaning about this show. It shows how good Hansen mind fucked your sick ass after all these years.
Pasdaran 7 months ago
@Pasdaran In their last sting (without the help of Dateline NBC), they caught 4 "potential sexual predators". As opposed to 51 "potential sexual predators" that they caught in Long Beach, CA in 2006 with the help of Dateline NBC. Do the math, dumb shit, and you will see that without the power of television, PJ is useless and powerless. Retard. =)
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
@MikeLongJohnson
I like how you don't deny being a pedo.
Pasdaran 7 months ago
@Pasdaran I like how you don't deny being a pussy, a troll, a fag, and a total dumb shit.
MikeLongJohnson 7 months ago
@MikeLongJohnson
I can't fathom how it is to be mind fucked so bad to be foaming at the mouth over this show after all these years. Man, Chris Hansen is good.
Shows what an utter deranged pedo you are.
Pasdaran 7 months ago
@elgilicious But perhaps you are the stubborn one who can't understand other people's point of view and can't admit wrong.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Getting the predators to show up to the house by saying "you're hot" and "I like older people" is not immoral: the former is a compliment, and the latter is a statement of one's social preference. Neither one is an inducement to have sex. Not even close.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious
ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:30:42 PM): i never knew or heard of a female your age that loves to have a guy lick her pussy.
thisplacesux_ihateit (09/08/06 5:31:10 PM): i never tried it but i want to my friend said its ttlly awesome
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ricks_talented_tongue (09/08/06 5:47:42 PM): you prefer right now or in a half hour or so?
thisplacesux_ihateit (09/08/06 5:48:09 PM): right now!!!! lol how long will it take u to get here
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora In both pairs of quotes, Rick solicits the minor for sex, and the decoy plays along. Obviously, the decoy is supposed to agree to the sex; otherwise, the predators won't show up to the house. Everything is on the up-and-up.
elgilicious 7 months ago
@elgilicious Well alright then. Perhaps I've just jumped to conclusions without reading the dialogue. I appreciate your time to clarify everything, though not the insults. I'll just going to go back to watching Bait Car now, since To Catch a Predator is just depressing.
cryora 7 months ago
@elgilicious While the actors get to benefit from the experience because it expands their occupation opportunities in Hollywood, and are off the hook from being accused of any type of wrongdoing because the are affiliated with NBC, who can afford the lawyers needed to have their backs in case anything happens. Plus, like Hansen said himself, blaming the victim is always wrong and the actors in the sting operation are always the victims.
cryora 7 months ago
@cryora Wrong. The actors voluntarily sign up to be decoys and are in no danger, so they're not victims.
elgilicious 7 months ago
lmao, 102 years old?
LostFaithChoi 7 months ago
He should have listened to his spidey sense. Man, that girl switched her fishing lure with a goddamn net!
mugatu5000 10 months ago
LOL. @ 2:41 Love the PWNED comment
CorruptedSeducer 10 months ago
This guy was one of the biggest dumb asses of all. He knew he was talking to a cop on-line and he knew it was a set up. And he still showed up at the house. Dumb ass. If he knew it was a set up, why did he ask Chris Hansen "Who are you ?"
MikeLongJohnson 11 months ago
MikeLongJohnson 11 months ago
He only served 1 day in jail. He shouldn't have been arrested at all because he knew it was a set-up and he knew this "girl" was not 13 and this girl is soooooooooooooooooooo fuckin' ugly. Probably the ugliest girl they've ever used.
MikeLongJohnson 11 months ago
This guy knew damn well it was a set-up and he knew he was chatting with a cop. He ever wrote it in his chat log. If these "potential sexual predators" get arrested because they "think" the other person is underage, then why do they guys who know it's a set-up get arrested ? That's fuckin bull shit
MikeLongJohnson 11 months ago
i wonder if any of the decoys had sex b4 age 18, if so i hope they all go toooo hellll. the predators will get theirs
theherofromthedarkne 1 year ago
picture me naked and come on in.
He DOES it...wow...
MichRockHop81108 1 year ago
"So your saying you thought you were talking to a 102 year old woman you wanted to sexually please?"
LMAO! That is the best Chris Hansen line ever.
ontariobuds 1 year ago 16
@ontariobuds Yes. I also like when he says, "that Sounds like what you're saying".
klwewf 6 months ago
Best fucking use of annotations!!!
xXAnthony619Xx 1 year ago 2
WHAT A SLUT!!! HAHAHA
satankilledbarbie666 1 year ago 3
Imagine ... all your friends saying
I saw you on YouTube-Predator, lol.
Every one from high school, too, lol.
Guys don't or you could be next !!!
cantbefooled 1 year ago
Imagine ... all your friends saying
I saw you on YouTube Predator, lol.
Every one from school days too ...
Guys don't, you could be next !!!
cantbefooled 1 year ago
why dont they get a 12yr old boy to hit on old women. oh wait, the cops would probably just hi five the kid.
stuvz86 1 year ago
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MichRockHop81108 1 year ago
I sympathise with the dude, I am always on the hunt for some relic of a woman. "You're sexy, can I call you Grandma??"
TheArmoredSaint78 1 year ago
bananaberrystrawberrylingaberrryyooo
DoctorRainbow8321 1 year ago
I have to wonder if these guys are actually predators. I think of a predator as somebody who goes out looking for sex with children, but in this situation it is more like they were solicited and offered the sex. I think it is a little different. It may still be wrong, but I'm more concerned about the guys who want to kidnap my daughter and take her off and rape her and dump her body in a lake.
adric22 1 year ago 2
@adric22 Agreed.
DoctorRainbow8321 1 year ago
@adric22 well that is kinda the big question isnt it? would these men have done this if they hadnt been in this situation? im not saying its right what there doing is wrong and they should have a lesson learned. however some of them ARE predetors. but this show is all about the ratings
666lonny666 1 year ago
@adric22 - They weren't "offered" the sex, it's the predators who initiate contact w/the decoys, then steer the convo in a sexual direction.
WhatsAYak 1 year ago
@WhatsAYak Yeah but the profile stated 102. He could've gotten off on a technicality. Plus you can tell that he didn't feel right fucking a 12 year old. The decoy started to be the pushy one and to tell the truth, when a woman is sexually pushy it is very hard to resist. It doesn't excuse his terrible behaviour but he shouldn't be branded a "predator". He was probably just a lonely bum. It may even be considered entrapment
JoeDaPlumber 1 year ago
damn this chick sounds so cute! "why are you paranoid!? just picture me naked and come in!!" - best line ever lol
natyice 1 year ago
Damn, that decoy has great thighs.
yeahsomuch83 1 year ago
It was a trap ............. fool.
whotrickedyou 1 year ago 18
tease lmao. lookin at her i'd think about ...19? lmfaoooooo i sound like a pedo now lmao 102...thats hilarious
lookalooey 1 year ago
IF pervertedjustice was such a good orgainization, instead of coaxing these guys into coming over via sexual inuendo's, they'd offer them help isntead and try to get some rehibilitation going. They wave coke infont of the addict then call them druggies for using it.
Ironwind1972 1 year ago
@Ironwind1972 yes and maybe that would help some, but a few would still go back to their lives of wrong, the system will never be perfect, no matter how much 'help' these people get, there will always be a flaw
sissybearsheba 1 year ago
These guys have problems for sure, but they are also coaxed and tempted by pervertedjustice, it's like waving coke in front of an ex addict.
Ironwind1972 1 year ago
thats bull shit though the young girls trick them to into comin they shouldnt do that
shopetozilla 1 year ago 5
@shopetozilla I think the same thing. She practically BEGGED him to come over. I mean, if they were pressuring the kid into letting them come over it should be different.
GangsterLogan 1 year ago 2
"i knew it was a set up"
ieatshitsticks 1 year ago
Thats kinda bull shit she should get in deep shit to for doing it
Josmister 1 year ago 5
criss hansons my hero ,I lov that guy lol
sonorin1 1 year ago
well he pictured her naked lol
sonorin1 1 year ago
@sonorin1 LMFAO
thagingerbreadman 1 year ago
just picture me naked and come on in
i woulda been like "ITS A TRAP"
ReadMyCommentBitch 1 year ago 3
someone should try getting caught just to meet Chris Hansen and tell him that they knew he was behind this. that would be awesome!
ThalassianBloodKing 1 year ago
man those asian girls you never know how old they are. You could see him second guessing himself rofl. (Oh god is she 12 or is she 30?)
jurv10 1 year ago 3
0:58 Who could resist that?
InfiniVide 1 year ago
they should castrate him live and give him a molten sand enema
JuanPapaNicolao 1 year ago
Come on now. This dude had to have known this was a setup. No way any girl of ANY age thinks he's hot.....
kingofnonj 2 years ago
So you thought you were talking to a 102 year old women? LOL
hens13 2 years ago
she's portraying a TWELVE year old people! he's a sick pedophile....
reeces4lyf 2 years ago
"On her profile it says 102...How does Yahoo let these people on?" Jesus Christ, I don't know whether to laugh or get pissed. What a piece of shit this guy is.
But seriously did he think he was meeting with a 102-year-old? That's fuckin gross, dude. I'd rather have a circle jerk with my dad and grandpa than even SEE a 102-year-old pussy.
gspendlove 2 years ago 7
His face after he says, "well, that soundslike what you're saying." Priceless.
KevinJonasIsWayCool 2 years ago
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KamikazeCaptain 2 years ago
I always thought that this decoy came off as a bit predatory herself. Not very good at acting like a kid.
ShawnoftheDay 2 years ago 18
Yea, she seems almost like entrapment!
as much as I hate pedophiles this girl stone cold set him up!
scumgod13 2 years ago 8
"Just picture me naked & come in". Damn, if she was playing a young lady of legal age, that would be the greatest line ever!
klwewf 2 years ago
She's a little slut. No doubt about it.
SiegfriedRatel 2 years ago 61
@SiegfriedRatel I'd hit it.
choreforthelost 1 year ago
Hansen: So, you're saying you thought you were talking to a 102 year old woman who you wanted to sexually please.
Chris Hansen delivers the GREATEST LINE in television history when he utters these words.
iLoveEthnicFood 2 years ago 66
yeah if i was an editor i would have definately left that in the episode haha
KamikazeCaptain 2 years ago 4
@iLoveEthnicFood Best part is when the guy says "That's not what I'm saying!" and Chris mumbles, "Sounds like what you're saying."
CaptWildcat14 1 year ago
Decoy: "Just picture me naked and come on in..."
LOL
DeathKnightKiller 2 years ago 9
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RazzleDazzle333 2 years ago
A lot of these guys, even after they are confronted, seem not to realize that the "girl" they thought they were talking to was a fabrication for the purpose of the sting, so they still think they can lie their way out. I guess they think the girl they were meeting freaked out before they got there and called NBC headquarters, who rushed down from New York and set up a whole studio in the house during the hour or so it took the guy to get there.
drsivana99 2 years ago
Lol that's what I thought from the first episode I watched. Its so funny how oblivious they are, but then again they don't tell them til the end that its a news story. Most people if they don't know who Chris is, tend to think hes the decoys father.
Regardless its hilarious seeing these guys get busted for this, couldn't imagine what goes on in the homes where its the real deal.
asdfidot 2 years ago
haha I agree
ShawnoftheDay 2 years ago