This looks like the beginning of a Cobra Kai. There should be a sense of respect and discipline in martial arts, but you shouldn't make students do stupid shit like twirl around just to prove "discipline and respect". Respect comes from both the student and instructor respecting each other as a human beings and as fighters, not as an instructor telling a student to do whatever the instructor wants.
It looks like you're being control freak and less like a respectful martial artist.
I've been a student of and taught for martial arts schools that required militaristic discipline, schools that required no discipline, and several in between. With that experience, I can say with absolute certainty that student quality is much better in those that answer Yes Sir/ Maam like this. We also get more referrals, and the parents love it.
Almost all quality martial arts schools require similar discipline... For the 2% who do not, I strongly suggest it.
Well I knew I'd get a reply to the comment I posted on here, but I will be glad to share my opinion with you. I must apologize for my hasty tongue earlier.
I understand the whole aspect of "Yes Sir/Maam" aspect of martial arts, it is used to teach respect, which can be applied to life outside the dojo or training facility. I also understand the importance of discipline in martial arts, a student with discipline will perform much better than one lacking in it.
I came from a boxing background, which is a lot less rigid than traditional martial arts. I have boxed and I have taught other people.
Our notion of respect was this- you respected one another and tried to learn. If you tried to cause harm or try to hurt someone, you were thrown out of the gym.
If you tried to go all out in sparring and tried to beat someone up, the sparring instructor would go all out on you and put you in your place and you were kicked out of the gym.
It's obvious you've never served in the military, nor have you ever been a student in a martial arts school that required discipline. If you did, you would know the benefit of such training.
You have to remind that these people are practicing martial arts and do not serve in the army.
I have to agree with Matthias. This seems a bit too harsh in my opinion. In my dojo there is respect and discipline without military standards. This is very possible and makes it a lot more fun to practice martial arts. I think the students should see their sensei as a teacher they respect and not as a drill sergeant who commands them.
I totally agree with this.. discipline is a serious thing.. especially when you're out fighting people in real life... you gotta be 100% focused, so you should never 'make' your students do stuff that's not going to benefit them in 1 on 1's, does that make sense?
It makes perfect sense. I will admit I am not martial arts expert, but however it is my person philosophy that fighters should be taught what is necessary for the advancement of the art they participate in.
I believe the most important aspect of learning a martial art is mastering the technique, being in fit condition (conditioning) to use the techniques at optimal level, and sparring/kumite to master the techniques learned. Anything else that is not targeted for these things are unnecessary.
This looks like the beginning of a Cobra Kai. There should be a sense of respect and discipline in martial arts, but you shouldn't make students do stupid shit like twirl around just to prove "discipline and respect". Respect comes from both the student and instructor respecting each other as a human beings and as fighters, not as an instructor telling a student to do whatever the instructor wants.
It looks like you're being control freak and less like a respectful martial artist.
matthias66 3 years ago 3
I've been a student of and taught for martial arts schools that required militaristic discipline, schools that required no discipline, and several in between. With that experience, I can say with absolute certainty that student quality is much better in those that answer Yes Sir/ Maam like this. We also get more referrals, and the parents love it.
Almost all quality martial arts schools require similar discipline... For the 2% who do not, I strongly suggest it.
ProStarMMA 3 years ago
Well I knew I'd get a reply to the comment I posted on here, but I will be glad to share my opinion with you. I must apologize for my hasty tongue earlier.
I understand the whole aspect of "Yes Sir/Maam" aspect of martial arts, it is used to teach respect, which can be applied to life outside the dojo or training facility. I also understand the importance of discipline in martial arts, a student with discipline will perform much better than one lacking in it.
matthias66 3 years ago
I came from a boxing background, which is a lot less rigid than traditional martial arts. I have boxed and I have taught other people.
Our notion of respect was this- you respected one another and tried to learn. If you tried to cause harm or try to hurt someone, you were thrown out of the gym.
If you tried to go all out in sparring and tried to beat someone up, the sparring instructor would go all out on you and put you in your place and you were kicked out of the gym.
matthias66 3 years ago
It's obvious you've never served in the military, nor have you ever been a student in a martial arts school that required discipline. If you did, you would know the benefit of such training.
craigr7310399 3 years ago
You have to remind that these people are practicing martial arts and do not serve in the army.
I have to agree with Matthias. This seems a bit too harsh in my opinion. In my dojo there is respect and discipline without military standards. This is very possible and makes it a lot more fun to practice martial arts. I think the students should see their sensei as a teacher they respect and not as a drill sergeant who commands them.
Tr3wl 2 years ago
I totally agree with this.. discipline is a serious thing.. especially when you're out fighting people in real life... you gotta be 100% focused, so you should never 'make' your students do stuff that's not going to benefit them in 1 on 1's, does that make sense?
mauriceh01 2 years ago
It makes perfect sense. I will admit I am not martial arts expert, but however it is my person philosophy that fighters should be taught what is necessary for the advancement of the art they participate in.
I believe the most important aspect of learning a martial art is mastering the technique, being in fit condition (conditioning) to use the techniques at optimal level, and sparring/kumite to master the techniques learned. Anything else that is not targeted for these things are unnecessary.
matthias66 2 years ago