In short, 'is gay good' versus 'is gay bad' is the entire scope of society's and gays' approach to homosexuality and all its questions and issues.
'Is cruising good' versus 'is cruising bad' is the way this vid is approached.
There's an utter lack of depth, creativity, intelligence, fun, in 'gay culture' -if it even exists- at the moment. There's the shallow, idiotizing propaganda at the one end, and the mindless fucking at the other, nothing in between...
...at least have the merit of teaching them something and allowing them to evolve.
No such luck with many of todays gays, gay culture is DEAD and the younger generations IDIOTIZED with the system's propaganda. I've had gays scream at me that Matthew Shepard died and I was a hater and bla bla bla.
How utterly boring that gays today are so ungay that they need AUTHORITY of all things, AUTHORITY to formulate for them what to think, of course: the judaic victimhood trip of the suffering minority.
...'PRIDE', 'tolerance', 'accepting diversity', 'gene', 'equality', 'coming out', and soforth.
A true cultish subculture, of people all thinking the EXACT same things, very heavily focused on a victimhood trip and evil bullies.
Compared to this 'militant', politicisezd discourse, it must be said that the real cruising guys are at least not as brainwashed, and more honest with themselves and their experiences, that are, however one wants to characterize them, their OWN experiences, that will...
The problem is gays and the ENTIRETY of popular gay discourse isn't SUBSTANTIVE, it is always REACTIVE, finding its own justifications in the ills of a heteronormistic society. What is lacking here is an absolute, golden reference.
I've been quite shocked at finding how increasingly hard it is to have a normal, balanced exchange with gays about anything. They're all into the mainstream propaganda, all using the same buzzwords, like 'hate', 'homophobia', 'hate crime', 'bigots',...
Wow, thanks for sharing that you are a public toilet, public park, public woods tramp. Now I know to stay FAR away from you and all of the diseases you're carrying inside.
At some point I hope you like yourself better so you don't think you have to "cruise" public places for anonymous sex.
It REALLY is hard to believe in 2011 that gay men are STILL having sex in woods, parks, and toilets...how 1970's/'80's of you.
Forwards to WHAT? To some ridiculous farce of a guy marrying a guy and the both of them adopting some child from some collapsed country and spending their lives chanting 'gay is good' and advocating kids be taught in school homosexuality is the exact same thing as heterosexuality, that it's just a matter of taste -some liking chocolate and some vanilla?
Face it, society is constructing a model of gayness and most gays today are in reality victims..
...of brainwashing. They evolve in depressing controlled subcultures defined by alcohol and a mindset of sex/consumption and aren't forming any actual alternative, viable male bonds. They COMPLETELY depend on the system's propaganda and legalistic measures, taking over a socially engineered model of gayness that is stripped of ALL creative, interesting implications.
At least when guys were wildly cruising, they weren't as indoctrinated and scared of everything.
They were actually looking for something, some fun, excitement, experience, love perhaps, at least they were looking for something and NOT counting on authority to give it to them, since gays for decades were eminently aware of the depressing implications of authority and the dulling, deindividualizing vibes of mass-culture.
The cruising gay, as opposed to today's indoctrinated gay, has at least kept in touch with his individuality and is at least looking for something.
Actually darling, what you define as "today's indoctrinated gay" is really simply gay men that know how to pick up other men in public places like clubs, on the sidewalks, shopping, etc. We've come a long way baby, thanks to society's acceptance of us.
We simply don't need to camp out in public toilets and spend all day in the woods like you.
You're looking for dick...We're looking for relationships that come with dick.
'what you define as "today's indoctrinated gay" is really simply gay men that know how to pick up other men in public places like clubs, on the sidewalks, shopping, etc'
Uh no, Einstein, I was actually differentiating between the cruising part and the indoctrination part, the latter being quite apparent in your fake campy prose, namely in the constant emphasis on 'WE', in phrases heard THOUSANDS of times, such as: 'we've come a long way' and 'society's acceptance'.
Your intellectual level and the utter lack of depth and originality clearly define you as another casualty of the brainwash. That you also cruise is another matter and that you would think that your sexual incursions interest or shock me, or that I would have a problem with homosexuality or gay cruising for being a 'christian bigot', a 'repressed faggot' or something along those lines merely shows you're too thick, programmed and predictable to process my posts.
This is all very well telling me that I'm wrong because I believe intelligent scientists and believe whatever I hear, but aren't you doing the exactly the same thing with the literature that you've read? You're reading literature and "evidence" that someone else has written or apparently concluded and making your mind up from that. You, too, cannot be sure that the sources that YOU believe aren't false.
Promiscuity and casual sex is a HUGE problem in the gay 'community'. And that's coming from a homosexual. I know that promiscuity is getting worse among heterosexuals, but why are so few people willing to admit that there IS a big problem with it in the gay community? Due to the recent politics, I feel that gays are so focused on gay rights, 'normalisation' and opposing criticism from the outside that they're ignoring the problems within the 'community'.
@KooturKoot "Why? I have to pay for them when they get hiv."
Just think of it as collateral damage from those early and risky vaccines that used chimp and monkey tissue which were injected into people. No matter how one gets it, just realize that it's quite likely there wouldn't be any epidemic without those old experimental contaminated vaccines from the 1950s and 60s. In short it is quite possible they paid the ultimate price so that we could all be free from polio. So 'pay' for the meds.
@Iightmachine Oh really? There's nothing wrong with people having sex in public, infringing upon others? For example, shouldn't someone be able to use a public restroom, or walk in a public place without having to dodge used condoms or encounter people having sex. These men just don't give a damn if some kids happen along in a public park, as long as they get what they want. PUBLIC doesn't mean do whatever you please. Just because you don't have standards...
Hey we are not living in the dark age anymore guys... we don't have to place ourself in strange and dark place for sex... so sorry we have so much gult over sex as it is, and even more gult over homosexual sex. It's time to bring our sexuality into the light, it's healthy, natural, powerful and beautiful... We need to let go of false ideas of our sexuality, it is not dirty, gross, we don't have to be of shame about it.... thats all stuff that created cruising. Lets take back our sexual power.
No big deal... get over it.. what's up with people trying to live everyones life??... get your own.. I dont think a heterosexual mom is going to take his little baby to take a walk n the park at 2 o'clock in the morning...
So why does sex create such disgust in your minds, guys? Why not crooked bankers, child abusers, corrupt politicians. But you vent your warped minds on sex: dripping, cum-laden, hot, sweaty, horny sex. Just the kind you really, really like but don't have the balls to admit. You hypocrites. If Jesus were among the living today, he'd come cruising with us and leave you morons to your knitting and your gossip.
Many of the self-righteous men who have posted are the same ones who have cruised. I have cruised just about every public and private venue there is. And so have lots of straight folks. When gays do it, we're fags, creeps, pervs, etc. When straights do it, it's just a "boy and girl thing". To those who detest the word "whore", you should come out of your sex-laden closets and give up the judgment-laden language and come cruising with us. You're a whore but you want to remain "respectable."
in the US it is illegal, so cruising parks are subject to arrest and the police will even set fire to a park to keep guys from cruising. it is dangerous. i always go with a condom, a bottle of mace, and/ or a knife. and if i see people running, i do the same and duck into a corner store or a back alley.
I'd say most gays -if cruising- have developed techniques easily superior and less ridiculously codified than suggestively dropping pieces of toilet paper in public bathrooms...Eeeew!
Anyway, there's nothing glorious about it and I fail to see why every phrase in this video needs to be uttered with such an exalted smile.
Well I'm attentive to a very insipid "gay mindset" that is being generated in society at large: either the GLOOORIOUS fight against heteronormative oppression or THIS kind of increasingly mindless sex & nothing in between.
Isn't it a fact that there IS NO DIMENSION to gay life but this today?
Mindless pornography or politics?
I'm not even talking morals and bibles.
His cruising techniques are pathetic & what he transmits is inane & REFLECTS on a larger problem.
@suddenlyitsobvious My my, what a joy you'd be at a party. You do remember what those are, yes? Or has it been such a long time since anyone dared ask you over for fear of being judged to death!
The guy is obviously an utterly cheesy perv, why must I applaud? A growing proportion of politically correct gays -you know, the ones whining about 'homophobia' and 'rights' and soforth- are constantly surveilling people's utterances for signs of 'discrimination', (not unlike the jewish ADL), and they never realize that this kind of GARBAGE is PRECISELY the reason for 'homophobia'.
I would like to see something gay sometime in the cultural sphere that is FUNNY, INTERESTING,..
@suddenlyitsobvious My partner and I are into health and fitness and we firmly believe in treating immune viruses with natural remedies. We recommend to as many people and friends as we can to avoid the HIV meds and find alternative therapies. These drugs as you say are highly toxic. Best to eat proper energy and superfoods, natural immune boosters, get regular exercise and plenty of rest. All HIV is, in my opinion, is a compromised immune system. Nothing more!
@suddenlyitsobvious That was my point .....clearly he knows nothing about HIV. And that's why I added the sarcastic bit about girls getting pregnant swimming with boys. Old wives tales.
Well good for you. I haven't seen that many who have figure it out, the implications are so huge...
Not only is there no virus but it's obvious the top of the hierarchy knows this too. Isn't it amazing what that means? It means not only government or politics but science itself is completely controlled and corrupt.
I hadn't checked your coversation with that guy actually -admittedly a bit lazy of me.
In fact, once you get the AIDS-story you can go on and on. Cancer is the same story, most diseases are, and 'treatments' always aggravate a situation that was originally typically benign and easily reversible.
The entire basis of modern medicine is criminally deceptive, and the demonic root deception is the germ theory of disease. The 'virus' concept is essentially an extension of it, the interesting idea being that small pathogens everywhere around us are waiting to attack and only big...
Cancer research priveleged a viral hypothesis of causation for years. Now they say it's 'genetic', which basically means nothing except trust the experts. All those researchers jumpe on the AIDS bandwagon.
So do you agree there is no virus at all, or do you think it's like a benign 'endogenous virus' or something?
@suddenlyitsobvious I believe it is some kind of endogenous virus, totally harmless as long as we do not aggrevate it. By that I mean lifestyle choices. There are 2 types of HIV...Western HIV and African HIV. Western HIV is caused by bad lifestyles (recreation drugs, lack of food, lack of exercise...poor diet is a big factor). African HIV is linked to sanitation and nutrtion. Two very different scenarios.
Since they haven't isolated a virus, and certainly hadn't done so when it was announced to the world in a dramatic media-operation, I see no reason to believe even in an 'endogenous virus'.
I know the diagnostic criteria for HIV differ in Africa, and that they've been tampered with a few times in the West, but these differences have nothing to do with different types of viruses, ...
@suddenlyitsobvious We can treat both scenarios sucessfully without the use of toxic drugs. Give Africa clean water and plenty fresh food and veg, there is a major improvement in immunity. In the west, when you change your lifestyle and eat correctly, sleep well and exercise, your immunity improves. No need for toxins. The thing about HIV I find very disturbing is that there are 3 tests used in the world and not one standard test. Very worrying.
' Give Africa clean water and plenty fresh food and veg'
Yes.
They've made a science of it so utterly complex today that the public doesn't even know where to start. It takes quite a lot of work to figure it out, but anybody really setting his teeth in it should be able to grasp the basic scenario. It was all a lie & all the experts working in that field have accepted the lie. There's no need to even follow their latest concoctions since they're all built on a criminal basis
So, I'll challenge you: show me 1 gay vid on youtube that does not whine about evil straight bullies, isn't porn or featuring some little 25 year old pansy sharing with the world how hard it was to come out of the closet, or a really substandard form of camp.
@suddenlyitsobvious You obviously do not know how to use Youtube properly.....type in gay comedy. Type in Gay short stories.....gay adverts, funny gay adverts and so on. There is so much positive gay stuff out there that one actually forgets there is such drivil as this guy has posted. Besides, this video is just a look at what SOME gay men get up to. It is not representative of gay culture. By paying so much attention to the nagative aspects, you fuel the negativity. Ignore it. Then it is zero
'Besides, this video is just a look at what SOME gay men get up to'
No it's not. No gay man cruises in such a ridiculous way.
I see from your comment to alex7171 that you haven't figured out yet that the AIDS-religion you are apparently another adept of is a complete hoax. Gays really should do a minimum of homework on Hiv and AIDS rather than simply repeating all this insane propaganda.
FACE IT: gays got massive doses of AZT from 87 on, enough to CAUSE AIDS.
@suddenlyitsobvious So before you just assume I know nothing, check with me. My comment to Alex was that you cannot get HIV in a public loo, off a mug, by touching someone and all the other crap we still hear. HIV is a a drug companies dream come true. Diagnose as many people as possible with this disease and then develop a range of drugs for life that the government will pay for. CASH COW...GOLD MINE....PAY DAY...DIVIDENDS. Are we on the same track here?
@suddenlyitsobvious I can see your point, but I think the "heteronormative oppression" is the best idea. Getting married/CP certainly sounds like the best option in my opinion.
Whenever I go to gaybars I am constantly at unease because it seems that the only thing people there want to do is have casual sex. Personally, it's not for me. When I try talking to people there, all they're interested in is sex and adhering to unflattering worn-out stereotypes. The gay community has a long way to go.
@Iightmachine And that means everyone else just has to deal with it? So if I go out in public I should be fine with running into guys having sex? I live in Palm Springs, CA, and I can't even go into a public restroom anymore without seeing two people who aren't adult enough to get a room. Hell, I may be gay, but at least I have standards, and a modicum of respect for others. What if a kid walked in? Or do they even care? no, as long as they get off they don't care about anyone.
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I know a gay guy who was married, and his wife would go with him while he cruised the subway bathrooms in Brooklyn, looking for cute puerto rican boys. She loved it.
Thx! Now I know what *not* to do in public places. I once yawned w/out covering my mouth, and my date told me I was flirting with a passerby. Excuse me?! I found my partner in the traditional way, I asked him for a date and spent time with him. I have never cruised and never will. It's much more satisfying to earn intimacy with commitment. If a guy cruises me, I just see it as a pathetic plea for free sex. This cow doesn't give free milk! Thanks for the note about public sex being illegal.
Note: I'm not hating on you, bda. But I do think if gays want to be accepted in mainstream society, than they need to curtail this kind of activity, which makes people see them as predatory, immoral, and a possible risk to children. And yes, there may be a bit of a double standard, but that's somewhat unavoidable at this point. And, as noted, this appears more prevalent in the gay community.
Gay cruisers who have sex in public clearly create the risk of kids seeing them, which they shouldn't have to. They also are more likely to spread HIV infections, which could be picked up by anyone in a public restroom. And it does cause them to be viewed that way.
If they don't ever want to be accepted, sure, they can keep acting in a skeezy way. But it's hardly terroristic or crazy (or even fundamentalist) to be bothered and alienated by this behavior. Learn to think objectively.
@alex7171 Clearly you know nothing about HIV and the spread of the virus. Next you'll be telling me you can get pregnant from swimming with boys if you are a virgin. And such stories that one was told when you were a child
@alex7171 From what I've heard, it's extremely uncommon for young homosexuals to engage in such behaviour. It mostly seems to be older men. It's most probably a habit because it was illegal in the 60s and perhaps also some of the men engaging in this behaviour may be in an unhappy marriage to a woman, but did not "come out" due to stigma of that time. Most gays I've discussed this with find this behaviour revolting.
@tuomasii Clearly your info is flawed. I have met many young guys out cruising in woods and shopping malls. I am 38 and do not fall in the catagories you mention. Gay men cruise because they CAN!! Men are hunters, end of. They may be gay, but they are still men....horny and up for fun. Just like straight guys. Straight guys cruise too.....so your theory stinks! Clearly the circle of gays you mix with are too precious for their own good! Try cruising....you'll lose the stuffy attitude!
@monk3yboy69 Just because they can doesn't make it right. "Men are hunters" - what? Everyone gets horny, it's natural. Just most don't want to do it dangerously without anonymous people in public. My "circle of gays" doesn't exist, I have a mixed group of friends. And those that are homosexual have self-respect and are trying to be sensible when it comes to sex. You're 38 and you cruise? That's sad if nothing else. Cruising is a behaviour than needs to stop for the gay community to progress.
@tuomasii Every person has a right to choose the bahaviour that works for them. My cruisning at 38 is far from sad. I enjoy myself, which is more than can be said for you from the sound of things. Who are you to say this behaviour needs to stop for the gay community to progress? Unbelievable that you have chosen to be the spokeperson on my behalf! I will decide what behaviour works for me and most certainly not be dictated to by the likes of you!
@monk3yboy69 You assume that I don't enjoy my life because I don't have anonymous sex in parks? My comment was not meant as an insult, it is purely a judgement. I say the gay community needs to stop cruising to progress because cruising is not only dangerous, but HIV is still at large and a serious problem! Also, time and time again, long-term promiscuity is proven to be emotionally damaging. Furthermore, you cannot deny that cruising is pretty degrading and cheapens the meaning of sex.
I don't think cruising is the big problem though it clearly is part of a larger equation involving such things as the massive nihilism, spiritual emptiness, consumerism that defines society at large but is repressed, whereas in gay circles it's all exploded to the surface.
While I think such behaviours are ultimately destructive, they don't need addressing because their root lies OUTSIDE the gay community. We need to look first at society.
@suddenlyitsobvious I agree, it is not the biggest problem, but it certainly is a medium for these damaging societal practices to occur. You say the root lies outside the gay community, but do you not think it's about time the gay community started taking the blame for its own mistakes? Yes, society as a whole has paved the way for such inadequate behaviours...
@suddenlyitsobvious You can't be certain that gays were poisoned with HIV, it's at presence a conspiracy theory. But regardless of whether it was or wasn't, homosexuals still need to be aware and careful that it is at large and needs to be eradicated. And even if HIV didn't exist, that doesn't mean that cruising is suddenly a positive thing.
...is the name given to anything not squaring with official narratives.
It is not my position that gays were 'contaminated' with some lab-made or monkey 'virus'.
HIV basically means nothing. Someone pregnant, a herpes infection, a tick bite, recent drug abuse, a big hangover, COUNTLESS conditions can cause a positive test-result, including fi pregnancy.
THERE IS NO VIRUS and it's the meds that have killed gays in the West and, in Africa and the Third World...
@suddenlyitsobvious Oh, I didn't realise you were an AIDS denialist. I don't mean to pry, but are you a doctor/scientist? Because people in Africa have been diagnosed with HIV and cannot afford the medicine, and yet they still die. Admittedly, it could be because of other conditions (cholera, dysentery, etc.) but how can you be sure? You can't say that it's a coincidence that people diagnosed with HIV who refuse to take medicine die young.
Because I've ceased doing precisely what you and countless others are doing, namely trusting the doctors, because 'doctors are very intelligent' and 'surely all of them couldn't be wrong'.
I've simply checked the facts MYSELF and many people who have done this -certainly not a majority but typically rather the intelligent minority with critical thinking skills have arrived at the same conclusion.
Of course, if your mindframe is you need to BELIEVE...
...someone, you're going to believe 'the experts', not unlike a bible-belt bigot trusts his minister.
You don't have to BELIEVE though. You can simply switch on your mind and go through it all yourself. It is BLATANTLY obvious the HIV/AIDS narrative is full of holes and completely fraudulent, and in reality this isn't a secret for anybody going through the literature.
There are hundreds of thousands of doctors around the world, and people who specifically study HIV/AIDS. I can imagine all of them are simply wrong or being forced to lie to the world about its existence.
...it's bad drinking water, malnutrition, bad conditions of hygiene and a number of other causes making up the 'syndrome'. The entire 'epidemic' was socially constructed from A to Z and based on a complete deception.
I don't BELIEVE this, I KNOW it, as does anybody doing his homework on this.
You could start reading up on Gallo's 'evidence' for this supposed virus before it was announced to the world via a mass media-operation.
Perhaps not, but neither is binging, alcohol abuse and a number of other issues. To propose that 'we' stigmatise these issues is in my view counter-productive, and appears to validate the notion so dear to the system that we all need to work together and all need to moralize one another, creating pressure groups and soforth, which merely generates authoritatively controlled lobbies for political correctness that soon dictate everybody's behaviours and inevitably...
@suddenlyitsobvious If stigmatisation of the problem won't deter people from doing it, then how is advocating it or saying it's acceptable going to phase it out? As a society, we need to be able to criticise, but we're so obsessed with political correctness that debating or criticising certain behaviours is immediately deemed as offensive. "Live and let live" only works for a while until even greater problems arise than before.
If your urge to improve the collective is sincere, YOU have the responsibility of familiarizing yourself with the crucial issues, even if they start to affect you personally and threaten your belief systems.
Saying people shouldn't do certain things is never a solution, certainly not before understanding WHY they do these things.
Yeah sure, 'we' need to be able to criticize anything but why criticize the symptoms and not address the causes?
I mean what's the point of whining about grown men having sex with one another and while being blind to the massive financial crisis that is PURPOSEFULLY created, to wars based on lies killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and really too many issues to mention.
.... but as individuals we can decide against it and speak out. It often seems the case that homosexuals think they can "get away with it" because they're gay, and perhaps there's less stigma attached to it within the gay community, whereas straight people often feel socially/morally obliged not to for fear of judgement. I believe the gay community needs to openly oppose/stigmatise such problems to initiate the destruction of such behaviour.
...deception and we've discussed it a bit in earlier posts.
People having casual sex with one another are in the worst of cases harming themselves. However, people controlling society and SOCIALLY ENGINEERING a 'gay consciousness' and 'gay scene' into existence are harming EVERYBODY. THAT's what needs looking at: the SYSTEM, that has poisoned and is poisoning millions of gays and using them for an insipid political agenda supposedly revolving around 'equality' and 'freedom' but...
There IS NO 'gay community' worth mentioning because the system controls the 'gay struggle' from A to Z and there shouldn't even be a gaylib movement. The only reason it exists is that the system is CONSTANTLY whipping this issue up in society while always making sure -and it's crucial to get this- that the way gays are
portrayed makes them INHERENTLY INACCEPTABLE to the masses.
I mean really, is it 'homophobic' of a parent to NOT...
...want his child to be gay when he's seen splashed all over the media for a quarter centuriy that gays mass-die of sexual viri and that all they think about is sex? For decades, the system made sure to actually link homosexuality to pedophiles. Nambla for instances used to march with the gays in the early parades.
It's all about social engineering and priority number one is understanding the system is everybody's' enemy, but perhaps gays' enemy in particular.
@suddenlyitsobvious I have to commend you, because your comments are the most thought-provoking I have read on this video! I understand your point. I often say to my friends when watching the TV that gays are always portrayed in the same way, e.g. a "gay film" must always contain a promiscuous element, or a gay that isn't be accepted or to show their struggle, it is never simply a film that happens to include gays, e.g. being gay defines the film. (If you get my point?)
@tuomasii For you it may be degrading and cheapen sex, for me not! You might find this behaviour unacceptable, I don't. You might have the emotional intelligence of a child unable to handle the consequences of cruising, I don't. I am a well rounded, well educated and charming young (middle aged I guess) man who happens to have cruising as something I enjoy. It does not define and I won't allow you to try and judge me. You are free to feel how you do. Allow others the same courtesy.
@monk3yboy69 You still haven't answered my question. What happens when/if you decide on a long-term partner? It cheapens sex because it becomes an expression of satisfying empty lust, and nothing more. I can't help but laugh that you think my emotional intelligence is immature. I'm not the one having unsafe sex with strangers in public places. "well rounded, well educated and charming" is the complete opposite of someone who has shameless casual sex in public. Someday you'll look back in regret
@tuomasii As it happens I do have a partner. I have been with my partner for 15 years now and it is a stable and loving relationship. Yes, crusing is just lust! That is the point! You are not looking for your true love, anyone doing that is a fool! Secondly, You say you are not the one having unsafe sex with strangers in public. Did I say I was having unsafe sex? No. You leap to a conclusion based on assumption that all cruisers are having unsafe sex. I use protection as I have a partner....
@tuomasii and because I know STDs are real. You are right.....someday I will look back and think I wish I had had a lot more time for a lot more cruising. Just accept that some people are more than capable of leading happy, fulfilling lives and being able to handle the "emptiness" of cruising public spaces and having shameless sex. I question why it bothers you so much and can only conclude it is something you so desperately enjoy and then spend hours begging yourself for forgiveness.
Cruising isn't a moral issue. It is simply a psychological FACT that cruising gays NEED their crtuising like a junky needs another dose, and the experiences resulting from this addictive behaviour are necessarily eroding and weakening certain values and perspectives making up the best of our humanity, again, not in a moral sense but in an ACTUAL sense; I quite understand how cuising may procure psychological highs and be exciting but don't try to pretend it's something it's not:
In the end, it is simply demeaning, addictive behaviour of people whose heightened energies demand some kind of release, and the rationalisation of it is an a-posteriori justification. Fucking anonymous strangers you don't know isn't beautiful or great, whichever way you wanna turn it. It's a weakness of character, in the best of cases a transitional stage, that may certainly be more interesting than the hypocritical attitudes of the dulled down masses, but in the end depressing...
@tuomasii You sound so dull, I am sure you put yourself to sleep. You actually have the gall to say you are not passing insults, merely judgement? Who gave you that power? I did not see any notice asking you to represent any of us. I must say I would love to be able to stand up with such confidence and pass judgement on my fellow humanbeings! One can only assume you are the Messiah himself come to save us all!
If in the future you decide to have a long-term partner/husband/CP, how are you going to tell them that you used to go cruising in parks? In the long-term, cruising can do nothing but damage the people who do it both emotionally and physically. And it's not just my moralising opinion, it's the generically agreed stance from psychotherapists and scientists.
P.S.: I'm not a proponent of gay marriage, but one possible benefit is reducing the amount of anonymous gay sex, reducing the amount of disease transmitted, etc.
Well, bda, if you're talking about "cruising" in general, you're correct. Men cruise for women all the time, usually in cars.
However, I was referring to this video, which discusses gay cruising. And only gay/bi men cruise for gay sex. Straight men, by definition, don't desire sex with other men. This is what some gay men don't seem to understand.
P.S.: I don't know about anyone else, but I found this video while searching for the song "cruising." Thought it would be interesting to check out, especially after the Larry Craig fiasco. After all, wouldn't want to send the wrong signals in a stall! ;^)
@suddenlyitsobvious Ok Mr Suddenly....you have picked the wrong person here. I am very wise to the system. I have got 15 years of HIV/AIDS research under my belt. I can tell you I do NOT believe the myths about HIV. I know that thousands of men were poisoned through the 80s taking AZT, which had been proven far too toxic back in the 60s. I do not believe that HIV causes AIDS. HIV as a virus does not adhere to the 10 requirements to make it a virus. The drugs are killing people slower now than b4
my problem with this video is that cruising has always been a very covert thing to be effective, and now it's out in the light for all to see.
I don't like cruising parks or public places for several reasons. Of course, there is the possibility of getting caught, but I wouldn't want to be anyplace that isn't safe from children. SO, my cruising is limited to dirty bookstores and places where there are a lot of gay ppl. In TO I stay close to Church St. Been to Scotia Plaza just to check it out
FYI for all you happy homo cruisiers, This happens alot downtown and sunridge in calgary, Me and my "buddies" have arrested alot of you and will continue to do so, SOoo stay the fuck out of the washrooms you pervs, we have already had gay cruisiers assualted and almost killed for trying to pick up the wrong guy. Espcially in the Bay's. Do yourselves a favor and stay out
haha you are Obviously such the FAG for searching and watching this video, you don't deserve to breathe monster. Maybe it's about time you and your "buddies" come out of the closet, and stop ruining the lives of people who are actually free, unlike your shit-minded self. You aren't even a cop, seems as if you have the mind of a turd.
Something tells me "FCFsikuri" and his "buddies" were actually getting their holes fudge-packed rather then arresting anyone (like anyone here believes you are a cop lol!) Furthermore there are a lot of stuck up, head up the asshole people on here acting like they are so above all of this, it's been going on for decades (straight or gay) it's only blown up when gays do it though. GET A FUCKING LIFE AND GET OVER IT ALREADY! Can I help you push up that rock?
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A street away from where I live there is a beautiful park (Queen's Park in Longton, Stoke-on-Trent in England).
I often walk my dog there.
What pisses me off is that some guys will follow me around for up to an hour and don't take the hint when I ignore them.
It's really annoying. I know you recognise me from the local gay bar but parks are not just for you to find sex. Some people go to enjoy a walk. Do you think the elderly couple are there to look for sex?
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This is one reason that people do not want gays to get married. HELLO!!!!??? If you are having SEX in PUBLIC where mothers take their kids, where old people traverse the earth; And it DAYTIME??? God! Have some decency!! At least do it at your house, or in a private place, because when people hear or know about gays doing this, they just wonder "Well. Why do THEY want to get married anyway? They just have sex anonymously anyways, so it does not matter to them." and There you go. Oh. AND I'M GAY!!
You are so Gay...live with it. Homosexual, you wouldn't have searched and watched this video on "gay cruising" if you weren't. As for the "gay's to get married comment" straight couples have sex in public all the time, believe me, I've seen....and have done so myself (when I was still with women). So Ignorant prick, why shouldn't Gay's get married? Mark your words, cause one day...you'll love a man.
Arguments against gay marriage -- it's not usually necessary to reinforce parental bonds to children, the way straight marriage is. It will cost more money in terms of governmental benefits, etc.
There are arguments in favor, as noted (less STD transmission, etc.), but given that gay marriage has never been practiced historically, I think it's up to you to make the argument why it should exist now. If you want it to, anyway.
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what i find interesting is guys who screw someone in public/alley (believe me i have seen it here in Calgary) yet when they are caught(known a few) they scream their rights were violated and poor me. In Vancouver it's socially aceptable after 11 pm when the park closes there are men that cruise. The VPD can't do much about it because their resources are stretched. This is exactly reason why I don't bother admitting my sexual preference openly cause of stuff like this that I would be typecasted
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FunkyMcJambo 2 weeks ago
I met my partner of 15+ years by introduction from my heterosexual brother.
Who "cruises" anyway? I think it's a more a breeder thing now.
imstepen 3 weeks ago
How f*cking sad is to be gay. Having to do all that sh!t to get quick and pity sex makes gay men small.
mimana2 2 months ago
In short, 'is gay good' versus 'is gay bad' is the entire scope of society's and gays' approach to homosexuality and all its questions and issues.
'Is cruising good' versus 'is cruising bad' is the way this vid is approached.
There's an utter lack of depth, creativity, intelligence, fun, in 'gay culture' -if it even exists- at the moment. There's the shallow, idiotizing propaganda at the one end, and the mindless fucking at the other, nothing in between...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
...It's also really incredible I find and depressing that so few gays are figuring out what's behind the AIDS-religion.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
...at least have the merit of teaching them something and allowing them to evolve.
No such luck with many of todays gays, gay culture is DEAD and the younger generations IDIOTIZED with the system's propaganda. I've had gays scream at me that Matthew Shepard died and I was a hater and bla bla bla.
How utterly boring that gays today are so ungay that they need AUTHORITY of all things, AUTHORITY to formulate for them what to think, of course: the judaic victimhood trip of the suffering minority.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
...'PRIDE', 'tolerance', 'accepting diversity', 'gene', 'equality', 'coming out', and soforth.
A true cultish subculture, of people all thinking the EXACT same things, very heavily focused on a victimhood trip and evil bullies.
Compared to this 'militant', politicisezd discourse, it must be said that the real cruising guys are at least not as brainwashed, and more honest with themselves and their experiences, that are, however one wants to characterize them, their OWN experiences, that will...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
The problem is gays and the ENTIRETY of popular gay discourse isn't SUBSTANTIVE, it is always REACTIVE, finding its own justifications in the ills of a heteronormistic society. What is lacking here is an absolute, golden reference.
I've been quite shocked at finding how increasingly hard it is to have a normal, balanced exchange with gays about anything. They're all into the mainstream propaganda, all using the same buzzwords, like 'hate', 'homophobia', 'hate crime', 'bigots',...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
I cruise all the time,and so does my boyfriend,we have a very very open relationship.
We dont worry about HIV we just Fuck for the fun of it
TASTEmyASSHOLE 3 months ago
Wow, thanks for sharing that you are a public toilet, public park, public woods tramp. Now I know to stay FAR away from you and all of the diseases you're carrying inside.
At some point I hope you like yourself better so you don't think you have to "cruise" public places for anonymous sex.
It REALLY is hard to believe in 2011 that gay men are STILL having sex in woods, parks, and toilets...how 1970's/'80's of you.
Move forward why don't you.
Showinbulge 3 months ago
@Showinbulge
'Move forward why don't you'
Forwards to WHAT? To some ridiculous farce of a guy marrying a guy and the both of them adopting some child from some collapsed country and spending their lives chanting 'gay is good' and advocating kids be taught in school homosexuality is the exact same thing as heterosexuality, that it's just a matter of taste -some liking chocolate and some vanilla?
Face it, society is constructing a model of gayness and most gays today are in reality victims..
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@Showinbulge
...of brainwashing. They evolve in depressing controlled subcultures defined by alcohol and a mindset of sex/consumption and aren't forming any actual alternative, viable male bonds. They COMPLETELY depend on the system's propaganda and legalistic measures, taking over a socially engineered model of gayness that is stripped of ALL creative, interesting implications.
At least when guys were wildly cruising, they weren't as indoctrinated and scared of everything.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@Showinbulge
They were actually looking for something, some fun, excitement, experience, love perhaps, at least they were looking for something and NOT counting on authority to give it to them, since gays for decades were eminently aware of the depressing implications of authority and the dulling, deindividualizing vibes of mass-culture.
The cruising gay, as opposed to today's indoctrinated gay, has at least kept in touch with his individuality and is at least looking for something.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Feel better Mary?
Actually darling, what you define as "today's indoctrinated gay" is really simply gay men that know how to pick up other men in public places like clubs, on the sidewalks, shopping, etc. We've come a long way baby, thanks to society's acceptance of us.
We simply don't need to camp out in public toilets and spend all day in the woods like you.
You're looking for dick...We're looking for relationships that come with dick.
Showinbulge 2 months ago
@Showinbulge
'what you define as "today's indoctrinated gay" is really simply gay men that know how to pick up other men in public places like clubs, on the sidewalks, shopping, etc'
Uh no, Einstein, I was actually differentiating between the cruising part and the indoctrination part, the latter being quite apparent in your fake campy prose, namely in the constant emphasis on 'WE', in phrases heard THOUSANDS of times, such as: 'we've come a long way' and 'society's acceptance'.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@Showinbulge
Your intellectual level and the utter lack of depth and originality clearly define you as another casualty of the brainwash. That you also cruise is another matter and that you would think that your sexual incursions interest or shock me, or that I would have a problem with homosexuality or gay cruising for being a 'christian bigot', a 'repressed faggot' or something along those lines merely shows you're too thick, programmed and predictable to process my posts.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@Showinbulge
It's really amazing that you position yourself as a spokesperson for gays. WE, WE, WE.
What's the matter? Did your entire individuality get fucked out of you? Something PERSONAL in there? Didn't think so.
Good luck finding a relationship with an anus and a dick and whatever being is attached at the ends.
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
This is all very well telling me that I'm wrong because I believe intelligent scientists and believe whatever I hear, but aren't you doing the exactly the same thing with the literature that you've read? You're reading literature and "evidence" that someone else has written or apparently concluded and making your mind up from that. You, too, cannot be sure that the sources that YOU believe aren't false.
tuomasii 4 months ago
Promiscuity and casual sex is a HUGE problem in the gay 'community'. And that's coming from a homosexual. I know that promiscuity is getting worse among heterosexuals, but why are so few people willing to admit that there IS a big problem with it in the gay community? Due to the recent politics, I feel that gays are so focused on gay rights, 'normalisation' and opposing criticism from the outside that they're ignoring the problems within the 'community'.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@KooturKoot "Why? I have to pay for them when they get hiv."
Just think of it as collateral damage from those early and risky vaccines that used chimp and monkey tissue which were injected into people. No matter how one gets it, just realize that it's quite likely there wouldn't be any epidemic without those old experimental contaminated vaccines from the 1950s and 60s. In short it is quite possible they paid the ultimate price so that we could all be free from polio. So 'pay' for the meds.
eVVVVV 5 months ago
I suppose cruising is the homosexual equivalent for dogging. Still revolting behaviour, though.
tuomasii 6 months ago
@tuomasii Each to his own mate!
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
cruising is really cool. i do it every day :)
deroldenburger1991 6 months ago
"A relatively simple dance." :)
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bIackonbIack 11 months ago
informative!
p0ison1vy 1 year ago
its me or he looks like chad hunt?
JansRox 1 year ago
This is crap.. stop trying to make "helpful" videos, assuming all gay guys want anonymous sex.
balleTommy 1 year ago 4
@balleTommy two of my best friends are gay dudes, and they totally doooooo....
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Iightmachine 1 year ago
@Iightmachine Oh really? There's nothing wrong with people having sex in public, infringing upon others? For example, shouldn't someone be able to use a public restroom, or walk in a public place without having to dodge used condoms or encounter people having sex. These men just don't give a damn if some kids happen along in a public park, as long as they get what they want. PUBLIC doesn't mean do whatever you please. Just because you don't have standards...
hillbillyprofane 1 year ago
thats creepy
Treblinka2012 1 year ago
Hey we are not living in the dark age anymore guys... we don't have to place ourself in strange and dark place for sex... so sorry we have so much gult over sex as it is, and even more gult over homosexual sex. It's time to bring our sexuality into the light, it's healthy, natural, powerful and beautiful... We need to let go of false ideas of our sexuality, it is not dirty, gross, we don't have to be of shame about it.... thats all stuff that created cruising. Lets take back our sexual power.
barrelle 1 year ago
Where´s at?
LivinLifeToGood 1 year ago
No big deal... get over it.. what's up with people trying to live everyones life??... get your own.. I dont think a heterosexual mom is going to take his little baby to take a walk n the park at 2 o'clock in the morning...
DCLsMusic 1 year ago
So why does sex create such disgust in your minds, guys? Why not crooked bankers, child abusers, corrupt politicians. But you vent your warped minds on sex: dripping, cum-laden, hot, sweaty, horny sex. Just the kind you really, really like but don't have the balls to admit. You hypocrites. If Jesus were among the living today, he'd come cruising with us and leave you morons to your knitting and your gossip.
cubdaddypdx 1 year ago
@cubdaddypdx Well said mate, well said....you free Friday night??? LOL . The hot, sweaty, horny bit got me going.....:)
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
Many of the self-righteous men who have posted are the same ones who have cruised. I have cruised just about every public and private venue there is. And so have lots of straight folks. When gays do it, we're fags, creeps, pervs, etc. When straights do it, it's just a "boy and girl thing". To those who detest the word "whore", you should come out of your sex-laden closets and give up the judgment-laden language and come cruising with us. You're a whore but you want to remain "respectable."
cubdaddypdx 1 year ago
guys... stop stereotyping... most gay guys do not cruise.
Gismozo 1 year ago
Ha! Come to Richmond, Virginia and see if you have it that easy LOL. The cops would be on scene immediately.
htshoward 1 year ago
Wow.. how whorish is that?!
mrsbygtigger 1 year ago
in the US it is illegal, so cruising parks are subject to arrest and the police will even set fire to a park to keep guys from cruising. it is dangerous. i always go with a condom, a bottle of mace, and/ or a knife. and if i see people running, i do the same and duck into a corner store or a back alley.
soschadao 1 year ago
Who is this video for? Gays?
I'd say most gays -if cruising- have developed techniques easily superior and less ridiculously codified than suggestively dropping pieces of toilet paper in public bathrooms...Eeeew!
Anyway, there's nothing glorious about it and I fail to see why every phrase in this video needs to be uttered with such an exalted smile.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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Iightmachine 1 year ago
@Iightmachine
Well I'm attentive to a very insipid "gay mindset" that is being generated in society at large: either the GLOOORIOUS fight against heteronormative oppression or THIS kind of increasingly mindless sex & nothing in between.
Isn't it a fact that there IS NO DIMENSION to gay life but this today?
Mindless pornography or politics?
I'm not even talking morals and bibles.
His cruising techniques are pathetic & what he transmits is inane & REFLECTS on a larger problem.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
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Iightmachine 1 year ago
@Iightmachine
Homophobia is a propagandistic buzzword like "pride", part of the "glorious" fight against oppression I mentioned earlier.
What do you think a parent sees, watching a video like this one? Imagining his son sucking d!ck in some public toilet? Do you think it's so great?
Do you see how this shallow and nihilistic mindframe -yes mindframe- actually generates "homophobia" (of course people aren't phobic).
Mindlessly fighting "homophobia" doesn't work without being self-critical.
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Iightmachine 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious My my, what a joy you'd be at a party. You do remember what those are, yes? Or has it been such a long time since anyone dared ask you over for fear of being judged to death!
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
The guy is obviously an utterly cheesy perv, why must I applaud? A growing proportion of politically correct gays -you know, the ones whining about 'homophobia' and 'rights' and soforth- are constantly surveilling people's utterances for signs of 'discrimination', (not unlike the jewish ADL), and they never realize that this kind of GARBAGE is PRECISELY the reason for 'homophobia'.
I would like to see something gay sometime in the cultural sphere that is FUNNY, INTERESTING,..
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious My partner and I are into health and fitness and we firmly believe in treating immune viruses with natural remedies. We recommend to as many people and friends as we can to avoid the HIV meds and find alternative therapies. These drugs as you say are highly toxic. Best to eat proper energy and superfoods, natural immune boosters, get regular exercise and plenty of rest. All HIV is, in my opinion, is a compromised immune system. Nothing more!
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
OK, so why do you state:
'Clearly you know nothing about HIV and the spread of the virus'?
If you've done your research and drawn the correct conclusions, you must realize that there IS NO 'virus', no?
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious That was my point .....clearly he knows nothing about HIV. And that's why I added the sarcastic bit about girls getting pregnant swimming with boys. Old wives tales.
I can state I do not believe there is a virus.
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
Well good for you. I haven't seen that many who have figure it out, the implications are so huge...
Not only is there no virus but it's obvious the top of the hierarchy knows this too. Isn't it amazing what that means? It means not only government or politics but science itself is completely controlled and corrupt.
I hadn't checked your coversation with that guy actually -admittedly a bit lazy of me.
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
In fact, once you get the AIDS-story you can go on and on. Cancer is the same story, most diseases are, and 'treatments' always aggravate a situation that was originally typically benign and easily reversible.
The entire basis of modern medicine is criminally deceptive, and the demonic root deception is the germ theory of disease. The 'virus' concept is essentially an extension of it, the interesting idea being that small pathogens everywhere around us are waiting to attack and only big...
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
...pharma can save us.
Cancer research priveleged a viral hypothesis of causation for years. Now they say it's 'genetic', which basically means nothing except trust the experts. All those researchers jumpe on the AIDS bandwagon.
So do you agree there is no virus at all, or do you think it's like a benign 'endogenous virus' or something?
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I believe it is some kind of endogenous virus, totally harmless as long as we do not aggrevate it. By that I mean lifestyle choices. There are 2 types of HIV...Western HIV and African HIV. Western HIV is caused by bad lifestyles (recreation drugs, lack of food, lack of exercise...poor diet is a big factor). African HIV is linked to sanitation and nutrtion. Two very different scenarios.
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
Since they haven't isolated a virus, and certainly hadn't done so when it was announced to the world in a dramatic media-operation, I see no reason to believe even in an 'endogenous virus'.
I know the diagnostic criteria for HIV differ in Africa, and that they've been tampered with a few times in the West, but these differences have nothing to do with different types of viruses, ...
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
...only with identification of target populations through symptoms and/or reactivity to incredibly unspecific tests.
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious We can treat both scenarios sucessfully without the use of toxic drugs. Give Africa clean water and plenty fresh food and veg, there is a major improvement in immunity. In the west, when you change your lifestyle and eat correctly, sleep well and exercise, your immunity improves. No need for toxins. The thing about HIV I find very disturbing is that there are 3 tests used in the world and not one standard test. Very worrying.
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
' Give Africa clean water and plenty fresh food and veg'
Yes.
They've made a science of it so utterly complex today that the public doesn't even know where to start. It takes quite a lot of work to figure it out, but anybody really setting his teeth in it should be able to grasp the basic scenario. It was all a lie & all the experts working in that field have accepted the lie. There's no need to even follow their latest concoctions since they're all built on a criminal basis
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
...IMPORTANT, ARTY, WISE, SPIRITUAL, MINDBLOWING.
But it never happens because gay culture is DEAD and all there is now is political programs, sourpussies and cheesy pervs.
So where's the party? I must say you certainly sound like an actual human being, which is sort of quaint...
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
So, I'll challenge you: show me 1 gay vid on youtube that does not whine about evil straight bullies, isn't porn or featuring some little 25 year old pansy sharing with the world how hard it was to come out of the closet, or a really substandard form of camp.
Tick tock tick tock...
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious You obviously do not know how to use Youtube properly.....type in gay comedy. Type in Gay short stories.....gay adverts, funny gay adverts and so on. There is so much positive gay stuff out there that one actually forgets there is such drivil as this guy has posted. Besides, this video is just a look at what SOME gay men get up to. It is not representative of gay culture. By paying so much attention to the nagative aspects, you fuel the negativity. Ignore it. Then it is zero
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
'Besides, this video is just a look at what SOME gay men get up to'
No it's not. No gay man cruises in such a ridiculous way.
I see from your comment to alex7171 that you haven't figured out yet that the AIDS-religion you are apparently another adept of is a complete hoax. Gays really should do a minimum of homework on Hiv and AIDS rather than simply repeating all this insane propaganda.
FACE IT: gays got massive doses of AZT from 87 on, enough to CAUSE AIDS.
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious So before you just assume I know nothing, check with me. My comment to Alex was that you cannot get HIV in a public loo, off a mug, by touching someone and all the other crap we still hear. HIV is a a drug companies dream come true. Diagnose as many people as possible with this disease and then develop a range of drugs for life that the government will pay for. CASH COW...GOLD MINE....PAY DAY...DIVIDENDS. Are we on the same track here?
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I can see your point, but I think the "heteronormative oppression" is the best idea. Getting married/CP certainly sounds like the best option in my opinion.
Whenever I go to gaybars I am constantly at unease because it seems that the only thing people there want to do is have casual sex. Personally, it's not for me. When I try talking to people there, all they're interested in is sex and adhering to unflattering worn-out stereotypes. The gay community has a long way to go.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@Iightmachine And that means everyone else just has to deal with it? So if I go out in public I should be fine with running into guys having sex? I live in Palm Springs, CA, and I can't even go into a public restroom anymore without seeing two people who aren't adult enough to get a room. Hell, I may be gay, but at least I have standards, and a modicum of respect for others. What if a kid walked in? Or do they even care? no, as long as they get off they don't care about anyone.
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nibehlung 1 year ago
anyway nice video, but if you want a real gay cruising guide
go on itunes and search for bjet its hot and free.
and by the way cruising is not that bad.
igivampir 1 year ago
burn in hell you filthy beast AMEN
badslabber 1 year ago
Gay and proud polesmokers. Big dark comin' soon.
odanak100 2 years ago
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GayBoii888 2 years ago
WHY do we need to learn about this? i wonder if this guy knows how awful he sounds...
mwmoregon003 2 years ago 2
why don't you tell us why? you obviously stayed to watch.
10mintwo 2 years ago
I know a gay guy who was married, and his wife would go with him while he cruised the subway bathrooms in Brooklyn, looking for cute puerto rican boys. She loved it.
strangeparty 2 years ago
Thx! Now I know what *not* to do in public places. I once yawned w/out covering my mouth, and my date told me I was flirting with a passerby. Excuse me?! I found my partner in the traditional way, I asked him for a date and spent time with him. I have never cruised and never will. It's much more satisfying to earn intimacy with commitment. If a guy cruises me, I just see it as a pathetic plea for free sex. This cow doesn't give free milk! Thanks for the note about public sex being illegal.
Ray77063 2 years ago
You're so clueless. People don't just cruise for sex, they cruise because they want to meet someone.
strangeparty 2 years ago
@strangeparty yeah, because having quick sex witha peson you've met 15 seconds before gives SO MANY chances to "meet"
Asturdetano 1 year ago
wow... im a young gay and i never knew this... the things you can learn from older gays
allforass69 2 years ago
now i know!
frenzycon 2 years ago
Not only gays do this, straights do this kind of stuff all the time!! its called 'dogging' in their books.. 'Dogging' is v.popluar..
darrelofsheff 2 years ago
...lol?...
RomanticsInc 2 years ago
dvdluvr123, this one's for you
RiotActI 2 years ago
This guy is LAME!
massageoctopus 2 years ago 3
Note: I'm not hating on you, bda. But I do think if gays want to be accepted in mainstream society, than they need to curtail this kind of activity, which makes people see them as predatory, immoral, and a possible risk to children. And yes, there may be a bit of a double standard, but that's somewhat unavoidable at this point. And, as noted, this appears more prevalent in the gay community.
alex7171 2 years ago
wrong!
first of all, risk to children. no, thats a different topic so dont try and marry the two- wrongzilla
secondly, NO gays dont have to kurtail anything to pander to the needs of religious crazies or fundamentalists
what needs to change is these TERRORIST organizations that are hell bent on homophobia and anti-social behavior towards gays
poosaypirate 2 years ago
Gay cruisers who have sex in public clearly create the risk of kids seeing them, which they shouldn't have to. They also are more likely to spread HIV infections, which could be picked up by anyone in a public restroom. And it does cause them to be viewed that way.
If they don't ever want to be accepted, sure, they can keep acting in a skeezy way. But it's hardly terroristic or crazy (or even fundamentalist) to be bothered and alienated by this behavior. Learn to think objectively.
alex7171 2 years ago
you can't get AIDs from a public restroom, the virus is very fragile and can survive for only a short time outside the body
collinschickens 1 year ago 12
@alex7171 Clearly you know nothing about HIV and the spread of the virus. Next you'll be telling me you can get pregnant from swimming with boys if you are a virgin. And such stories that one was told when you were a child
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@alex7171 From what I've heard, it's extremely uncommon for young homosexuals to engage in such behaviour. It mostly seems to be older men. It's most probably a habit because it was illegal in the 60s and perhaps also some of the men engaging in this behaviour may be in an unhappy marriage to a woman, but did not "come out" due to stigma of that time. Most gays I've discussed this with find this behaviour revolting.
tuomasii 6 months ago
@tuomasii Clearly your info is flawed. I have met many young guys out cruising in woods and shopping malls. I am 38 and do not fall in the catagories you mention. Gay men cruise because they CAN!! Men are hunters, end of. They may be gay, but they are still men....horny and up for fun. Just like straight guys. Straight guys cruise too.....so your theory stinks! Clearly the circle of gays you mix with are too precious for their own good! Try cruising....you'll lose the stuffy attitude!
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69 Just because they can doesn't make it right. "Men are hunters" - what? Everyone gets horny, it's natural. Just most don't want to do it dangerously without anonymous people in public. My "circle of gays" doesn't exist, I have a mixed group of friends. And those that are homosexual have self-respect and are trying to be sensible when it comes to sex. You're 38 and you cruise? That's sad if nothing else. Cruising is a behaviour than needs to stop for the gay community to progress.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii Every person has a right to choose the bahaviour that works for them. My cruisning at 38 is far from sad. I enjoy myself, which is more than can be said for you from the sound of things. Who are you to say this behaviour needs to stop for the gay community to progress? Unbelievable that you have chosen to be the spokeperson on my behalf! I will decide what behaviour works for me and most certainly not be dictated to by the likes of you!
monk3yboy69 4 months ago
@monk3yboy69 You assume that I don't enjoy my life because I don't have anonymous sex in parks? My comment was not meant as an insult, it is purely a judgement. I say the gay community needs to stop cruising to progress because cruising is not only dangerous, but HIV is still at large and a serious problem! Also, time and time again, long-term promiscuity is proven to be emotionally damaging. Furthermore, you cannot deny that cruising is pretty degrading and cheapens the meaning of sex.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
I don't think cruising is the big problem though it clearly is part of a larger equation involving such things as the massive nihilism, spiritual emptiness, consumerism that defines society at large but is repressed, whereas in gay circles it's all exploded to the surface.
While I think such behaviours are ultimately destructive, they don't need addressing because their root lies OUTSIDE the gay community. We need to look first at society.
You mention HIV. Hiv/AIDS is a massive...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I agree, it is not the biggest problem, but it certainly is a medium for these damaging societal practices to occur. You say the root lies outside the gay community, but do you not think it's about time the gay community started taking the blame for its own mistakes? Yes, society as a whole has paved the way for such inadequate behaviours...
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
I think you still haven't grasped the issue here: HIV/AIDS is a hoax and millions of gays were poisoned.
Understanding this is the NUMBER ONE priority and must be included in any discourse about homosexuality and their 'responsibilities' as you say.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious You can't be certain that gays were poisoned with HIV, it's at presence a conspiracy theory. But regardless of whether it was or wasn't, homosexuals still need to be aware and careful that it is at large and needs to be eradicated. And even if HIV didn't exist, that doesn't mean that cruising is suddenly a positive thing.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
'conspiracy theory'
...is the name given to anything not squaring with official narratives.
It is not my position that gays were 'contaminated' with some lab-made or monkey 'virus'.
HIV basically means nothing. Someone pregnant, a herpes infection, a tick bite, recent drug abuse, a big hangover, COUNTLESS conditions can cause a positive test-result, including fi pregnancy.
THERE IS NO VIRUS and it's the meds that have killed gays in the West and, in Africa and the Third World...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Oh, I didn't realise you were an AIDS denialist. I don't mean to pry, but are you a doctor/scientist? Because people in Africa have been diagnosed with HIV and cannot afford the medicine, and yet they still die. Admittedly, it could be because of other conditions (cholera, dysentery, etc.) but how can you be sure? You can't say that it's a coincidence that people diagnosed with HIV who refuse to take medicine die young.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
'but how can you be sure'
Because I've ceased doing precisely what you and countless others are doing, namely trusting the doctors, because 'doctors are very intelligent' and 'surely all of them couldn't be wrong'.
I've simply checked the facts MYSELF and many people who have done this -certainly not a majority but typically rather the intelligent minority with critical thinking skills have arrived at the same conclusion.
Of course, if your mindframe is you need to BELIEVE...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@tuomasii
...someone, you're going to believe 'the experts', not unlike a bible-belt bigot trusts his minister.
You don't have to BELIEVE though. You can simply switch on your mind and go through it all yourself. It is BLATANTLY obvious the HIV/AIDS narrative is full of holes and completely fraudulent, and in reality this isn't a secret for anybody going through the literature.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
There are hundreds of thousands of doctors around the world, and people who specifically study HIV/AIDS. I can imagine all of them are simply wrong or being forced to lie to the world about its existence.
tuomasii 4 months ago
...it's bad drinking water, malnutrition, bad conditions of hygiene and a number of other causes making up the 'syndrome'. The entire 'epidemic' was socially constructed from A to Z and based on a complete deception.
I don't BELIEVE this, I KNOW it, as does anybody doing his homework on this.
You could start reading up on Gallo's 'evidence' for this supposed virus before it was announced to the world via a mass media-operation.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@tuomasii
'positive thing'
Perhaps not, but neither is binging, alcohol abuse and a number of other issues. To propose that 'we' stigmatise these issues is in my view counter-productive, and appears to validate the notion so dear to the system that we all need to work together and all need to moralize one another, creating pressure groups and soforth, which merely generates authoritatively controlled lobbies for political correctness that soon dictate everybody's behaviours and inevitably...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious If stigmatisation of the problem won't deter people from doing it, then how is advocating it or saying it's acceptable going to phase it out? As a society, we need to be able to criticise, but we're so obsessed with political correctness that debating or criticising certain behaviours is immediately deemed as offensive. "Live and let live" only works for a while until even greater problems arise than before.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
'Live and let live'
If your urge to improve the collective is sincere, YOU have the responsibility of familiarizing yourself with the crucial issues, even if they start to affect you personally and threaten your belief systems.
Saying people shouldn't do certain things is never a solution, certainly not before understanding WHY they do these things.
Yeah sure, 'we' need to be able to criticize anything but why criticize the symptoms and not address the causes?
And how 'critical'...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
...are you really?
I mean what's the point of whining about grown men having sex with one another and while being blind to the massive financial crisis that is PURPOSEFULLY created, to wars based on lies killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and really too many issues to mention.
THERE IS NO 'WE'.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
...results in even more legal measures and laws, when I should think we have quite enough of those.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
.... but as individuals we can decide against it and speak out. It often seems the case that homosexuals think they can "get away with it" because they're gay, and perhaps there's less stigma attached to it within the gay community, whereas straight people often feel socially/morally obliged not to for fear of judgement. I believe the gay community needs to openly oppose/stigmatise such problems to initiate the destruction of such behaviour.
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii
...deception and we've discussed it a bit in earlier posts.
People having casual sex with one another are in the worst of cases harming themselves. However, people controlling society and SOCIALLY ENGINEERING a 'gay consciousness' and 'gay scene' into existence are harming EVERYBODY. THAT's what needs looking at: the SYSTEM, that has poisoned and is poisoning millions of gays and using them for an insipid political agenda supposedly revolving around 'equality' and 'freedom' but...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@tuomasii
...in reality a ploy to control the collective.
There IS NO 'gay community' worth mentioning because the system controls the 'gay struggle' from A to Z and there shouldn't even be a gaylib movement. The only reason it exists is that the system is CONSTANTLY whipping this issue up in society while always making sure -and it's crucial to get this- that the way gays are
portrayed makes them INHERENTLY INACCEPTABLE to the masses.
I mean really, is it 'homophobic' of a parent to NOT...
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@tuomasii
...want his child to be gay when he's seen splashed all over the media for a quarter centuriy that gays mass-die of sexual viri and that all they think about is sex? For decades, the system made sure to actually link homosexuality to pedophiles. Nambla for instances used to march with the gays in the early parades.
It's all about social engineering and priority number one is understanding the system is everybody's' enemy, but perhaps gays' enemy in particular.
suddenlyitsobvious 4 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious I have to commend you, because your comments are the most thought-provoking I have read on this video! I understand your point. I often say to my friends when watching the TV that gays are always portrayed in the same way, e.g. a "gay film" must always contain a promiscuous element, or a gay that isn't be accepted or to show their struggle, it is never simply a film that happens to include gays, e.g. being gay defines the film. (If you get my point?)
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii For you it may be degrading and cheapen sex, for me not! You might find this behaviour unacceptable, I don't. You might have the emotional intelligence of a child unable to handle the consequences of cruising, I don't. I am a well rounded, well educated and charming young (middle aged I guess) man who happens to have cruising as something I enjoy. It does not define and I won't allow you to try and judge me. You are free to feel how you do. Allow others the same courtesy.
monk3yboy69 4 months ago
@monk3yboy69 You still haven't answered my question. What happens when/if you decide on a long-term partner? It cheapens sex because it becomes an expression of satisfying empty lust, and nothing more. I can't help but laugh that you think my emotional intelligence is immature. I'm not the one having unsafe sex with strangers in public places. "well rounded, well educated and charming" is the complete opposite of someone who has shameless casual sex in public. Someday you'll look back in regret
tuomasii 4 months ago
@tuomasii As it happens I do have a partner. I have been with my partner for 15 years now and it is a stable and loving relationship. Yes, crusing is just lust! That is the point! You are not looking for your true love, anyone doing that is a fool! Secondly, You say you are not the one having unsafe sex with strangers in public. Did I say I was having unsafe sex? No. You leap to a conclusion based on assumption that all cruisers are having unsafe sex. I use protection as I have a partner....
monk3yboy69 4 months ago
@tuomasii and because I know STDs are real. You are right.....someday I will look back and think I wish I had had a lot more time for a lot more cruising. Just accept that some people are more than capable of leading happy, fulfilling lives and being able to handle the "emptiness" of cruising public spaces and having shameless sex. I question why it bothers you so much and can only conclude it is something you so desperately enjoy and then spend hours begging yourself for forgiveness.
monk3yboy69 4 months ago
@monk3yboy69
Cruising isn't a moral issue. It is simply a psychological FACT that cruising gays NEED their crtuising like a junky needs another dose, and the experiences resulting from this addictive behaviour are necessarily eroding and weakening certain values and perspectives making up the best of our humanity, again, not in a moral sense but in an ACTUAL sense; I quite understand how cuising may procure psychological highs and be exciting but don't try to pretend it's something it's not:
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@monk3yboy69
In the end, it is simply demeaning, addictive behaviour of people whose heightened energies demand some kind of release, and the rationalisation of it is an a-posteriori justification. Fucking anonymous strangers you don't know isn't beautiful or great, whichever way you wanna turn it. It's a weakness of character, in the best of cases a transitional stage, that may certainly be more interesting than the hypocritical attitudes of the dulled down masses, but in the end depressing...
suddenlyitsobvious 2 months ago
@tuomasii You sound so dull, I am sure you put yourself to sleep. You actually have the gall to say you are not passing insults, merely judgement? Who gave you that power? I did not see any notice asking you to represent any of us. I must say I would love to be able to stand up with such confidence and pass judgement on my fellow humanbeings! One can only assume you are the Messiah himself come to save us all!
monk3yboy69 4 months ago
If in the future you decide to have a long-term partner/husband/CP, how are you going to tell them that you used to go cruising in parks? In the long-term, cruising can do nothing but damage the people who do it both emotionally and physically. And it's not just my moralising opinion, it's the generically agreed stance from psychotherapists and scientists.
tuomasii 4 months ago
*with anonymous people in public
tuomasii 4 months ago
P.S.: I'm not a proponent of gay marriage, but one possible benefit is reducing the amount of anonymous gay sex, reducing the amount of disease transmitted, etc.
alex7171 2 years ago
One error in the video -- your father and grandfather don't "cruise" unless they're actually gay.
alex7171 2 years ago
No Alex....Cruising can be for anyone looking for a Lay.
bda42 2 years ago
Well, bda, if you're talking about "cruising" in general, you're correct. Men cruise for women all the time, usually in cars.
However, I was referring to this video, which discusses gay cruising. And only gay/bi men cruise for gay sex. Straight men, by definition, don't desire sex with other men. This is what some gay men don't seem to understand.
alex7171 2 years ago
P.S.: I don't know about anyone else, but I found this video while searching for the song "cruising." Thought it would be interesting to check out, especially after the Larry Craig fiasco. After all, wouldn't want to send the wrong signals in a stall! ;^)
alex7171 2 years ago
@alex7171 I think you'd be the first down those stalls looking for a quick suck....
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
@monk3yboy69
So it's clearly YOU who knows nothing about HIV.
Really, haven't you seen the entire narrative is full of massive holes?
Haven't you seen that all those who slowly turn into living skeletons are all taking HYPERTOXIC DRUGS?
The system is very cynical/evil, better wisen up, monkyboy.
suddenlyitsobvious 5 months ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Ok Mr Suddenly....you have picked the wrong person here. I am very wise to the system. I have got 15 years of HIV/AIDS research under my belt. I can tell you I do NOT believe the myths about HIV. I know that thousands of men were poisoned through the 80s taking AZT, which had been proven far too toxic back in the 60s. I do not believe that HIV causes AIDS. HIV as a virus does not adhere to the 10 requirements to make it a virus. The drugs are killing people slower now than b4
monk3yboy69 5 months ago
my problem with this video is that cruising has always been a very covert thing to be effective, and now it's out in the light for all to see.
I don't like cruising parks or public places for several reasons. Of course, there is the possibility of getting caught, but I wouldn't want to be anyplace that isn't safe from children. SO, my cruising is limited to dirty bookstores and places where there are a lot of gay ppl. In TO I stay close to Church St. Been to Scotia Plaza just to check it out
Rocinante01 2 years ago
FYI for all you happy homo cruisiers, This happens alot downtown and sunridge in calgary, Me and my "buddies" have arrested alot of you and will continue to do so, SOoo stay the fuck out of the washrooms you pervs, we have already had gay cruisiers assualted and almost killed for trying to pick up the wrong guy. Espcially in the Bay's. Do yourselves a favor and stay out
FCFsikuri 2 years ago
haha you are Obviously such the FAG for searching and watching this video, you don't deserve to breathe monster. Maybe it's about time you and your "buddies" come out of the closet, and stop ruining the lives of people who are actually free, unlike your shit-minded self. You aren't even a cop, seems as if you have the mind of a turd.
bda42 2 years ago
Something tells me "FCFsikuri" and his "buddies" were actually getting their holes fudge-packed rather then arresting anyone (like anyone here believes you are a cop lol!) Furthermore there are a lot of stuck up, head up the asshole people on here acting like they are so above all of this, it's been going on for decades (straight or gay) it's only blown up when gays do it though. GET A FUCKING LIFE AND GET OVER IT ALREADY! Can I help you push up that rock?
Dayvidpriddy 1 year ago
@Dayvidpriddy Gays cause global warming!!! It's because of rampant butt fuckers that the planet is about to fucking explode.
megatoogood4u 1 year ago
Any married "straight" guy who does this shit deserves to have his dick cut off.
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How gauche.
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strangeparty 2 years ago
A street away from where I live there is a beautiful park (Queen's Park in Longton, Stoke-on-Trent in England).
I often walk my dog there.
What pisses me off is that some guys will follow me around for up to an hour and don't take the hint when I ignore them.
It's really annoying. I know you recognise me from the local gay bar but parks are not just for you to find sex. Some people go to enjoy a walk. Do you think the elderly couple are there to look for sex?
marcluc1988 2 years ago
WTF ever happened to jumping in 69GTO and cruising around in circles, drinking beer, and wasting gas, jeez..what next?
jelap62 2 years ago
Brilliant! LOL ;-)
WoofManToronto 2 years ago
This is fucking awesome! Now I know how to cruise effectively. THANKS GUY!
coonish28 2 years ago
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This is one reason that people do not want gays to get married. HELLO!!!!??? If you are having SEX in PUBLIC where mothers take their kids, where old people traverse the earth; And it DAYTIME??? God! Have some decency!! At least do it at your house, or in a private place, because when people hear or know about gays doing this, they just wonder "Well. Why do THEY want to get married anyway? They just have sex anonymously anyways, so it does not matter to them." and There you go. Oh. AND I'M GAY!!
the81stviewer 2 years ago
You are so Gay...live with it. Homosexual, you wouldn't have searched and watched this video on "gay cruising" if you weren't. As for the "gay's to get married comment" straight couples have sex in public all the time, believe me, I've seen....and have done so myself (when I was still with women). So Ignorant prick, why shouldn't Gay's get married? Mark your words, cause one day...you'll love a man.
bda42 2 years ago
Arguments against gay marriage -- it's not usually necessary to reinforce parental bonds to children, the way straight marriage is. It will cost more money in terms of governmental benefits, etc.
There are arguments in favor, as noted (less STD transmission, etc.), but given that gay marriage has never been practiced historically, I think it's up to you to make the argument why it should exist now. If you want it to, anyway.
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matthewsniffen16 3 years ago
anonymous sex... idiocy. Keep your VD's to yourself, ew.
MengoMango 3 years ago
what i find interesting is guys who screw someone in public/alley (believe me i have seen it here in Calgary) yet when they are caught(known a few) they scream their rights were violated and poor me. In Vancouver it's socially aceptable after 11 pm when the park closes there are men that cruise. The VPD can't do much about it because their resources are stretched. This is exactly reason why I don't bother admitting my sexual preference openly cause of stuff like this that I would be typecasted
garycalgary 3 years ago
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MomntrySilence 3 years ago
where the hell can u hook up at concordia or mcgill?
mtl514west 3 years ago
I need a man 2 treat me like a queen H
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Mumple 3 years ago
u learn something new every day !
victor2cutube 3 years ago
Interesting video!
OTIE1121 3 years ago
Who the FUCK would do this and risk getting some std like AIDS
jreb01 3 years ago
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Iightmachine 1 year ago