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  • ok dude use ur cannon if your at a distance use ur seekers but if they get close switch over to your cannon get a good lead on it and boom jet kill this isn't rocket science you have no clue what your talking about so its a thumb down for me.

  • Just to note when people like you break the dog fight turn you become targets for the other jet.... those after burners are easy to see at a distance.......

  • The time it takes you to lock onto an aircraft, you would have already destroyed that threat with your cannon. Avoid using heat-seekers unless you're going to equip beam scanner.

  • There's no need to disengage your pursuit if you know certain maneuvers that will get you in the direct rear of the jet. It just takes practice, trial and error, and experience. Also, don't use heatseekers, b/c many players nowadays have flares, rendering HS useless. Equip yourself with rocket pods as to engage enemy ground targets when enemy air presence is absent.

  • @TheAndrewdfd Flares don't render heatseakers useless. You obviously don't have much experience with them.

  • @Cresture Main reason why i ranted against the heatseakers is because they don't help in aiding/supporting ground. It's best to learn how to use the cannon and rocket combo because you have advantage over both land and air. And yes, Flares DO render heatseakers useless, that's what the Flares are made for, to COUNTER heatseaking missles. If a jet fires two missles and you launch your flares, ONE missle may hit, but that is not enought to disable, it lowers you to 59% percent health.

  • Looks like this guy is a........

    **puts on dentures**

    NOOOOOOOOB!

    *troll face*

  • If you were capable of using the cannon... at all, that "chase" would've been over 3 seconds after started.

    Real pilots don't use heat seekers.

  • @Cloleman air radar, extinguisher and rocket pods all the way my friend

  • @garethkielty I prefer flares, but close enough. Good work!

  • 1:41 lol. ;)

  • Nice tut man ;) keep it up

  • Youre so awful, why would you even make a video? your technique is only useful to people who dont know how to maneuver the jet at close quarters, which is in fact a very easy thing to master

  • He dont know what he talking about.. LMFAO

    

  • k check but i need a tutorial on ground attack bro

  • It took me a while to get used to the jet and the physics behind it all. But once I was comfortable enough, it took no time to unlock rocket pods. Those are the real deal. Heat seekers have become pointless. With a good angle, a tank or lav is dead meat.

  • If you want to get kills you can do like you did on the video. But sometimes i could be fun to have a tricky dogfight whit someone.

  • U DO NOT DISENGAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CHASE.

    IT GIVES THE ENEMY AN OPPORUNITY TO MAKE U THE ONE BEING CHASED.

  • Heat seekers are for noobs who cant shoot or fly IMO

  • you are so bad.

  • This player doesnt know what he is talking about.

  • @zennappi he thinks he`s a good pilot^^ time for him to buy a pc and bf3 again...and then fly against him ok ^^

  • @zennappi dam straight xD

  • @zennappi LOL guys listen to him! If he said that he dont know then he just simpley dont know!

    Zennappi your a beast!

  • @zennappi Oh maybe I should check out your jet video's. . . . This guy is doing his best. Don't be rude.

  • All i need to learn is too out maneuver some one staying on my tail for a long time.

  • actually if u master u can use the rocket pod for dog fighting do it is strong and if u combine it with the gattling u will be unstopable

  • looks like your doing a lot of chasing, also like others say use machine guy heat seek suck.

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  • what button is brakes?

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  • @dellywarrior On the PS3 version throttle is R2, air brakes are L2 and afterburner is L3. don't know the controls for other platforms though :-P

  • @Gamatech123 Well, I have a PS3!!! XD

  • You can't use heat seekers no more man, cause everyone has flares now so it's a kind of waste to have them equiped so I like to use the guided missile to grab attention from the vehicles on the ground and help the guys on the ground.

  • i can't get any kills with miniguns the begginer jet guns please help i really want heat seackers

  • @NascarAlley A skilled pilot wont use heat seackers, cause when u face a skilled pilot, heat seacker will never touch his jet

  • @lkfczzw well i want a better weapon then mini guns so :)

  • @lkfczzw Actually SOFLAM can lock onto you along with any other guided missiles, and you're fucked because of how many people are shooting at you at once. Say you're getting locked onto by a Jet, you use flares or an ECM Jammer and then another missile INSTANTLY gets fired at you, no lock on sound to try and avoid being shot at. What do you do? You can't do anything but try and spin around and pray to god it doesn't hit you, which it'll inevitably do because you already used defense...

  • @NascarAlley are you aiming in front of the jet? you have to pull a lead on him- aiming stright at the jet will result in your bullets falling way behind your target. try aiming in front of it :-)

  • when you speed up video thats how fast jets go in real life its stupid lol

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  • haha someone tryed to avoid the chase on me i still followed them and fucked them up xD

  • @Kiyi1994 can i come also? Haha i play on xbox also

  • i wish people would just realize that if both pilots have air radar and you end up doing the circle dance you should just call a truce and go rack up the ton of ground kills you miss out on dancing.

  • @nicky69691 thats pretty boring actually, just dancing in circles for 20 min

  • @TheMproductions thats why im saying instead of doing dancing both should go after ground targets

  • @nicky69691 even with the rocket pods im struggling to get a good shot at a tank. since its not a 1 kill (all rockets) i have to go back and forward.

    guided missile would be ALOT better :D

  • @TheMproductions the trick is its all about the angle of attack, and finding the right time to start firing your rockets to get most if not all of them to hit. if u start firing from to far away a lot of your rockets are going to miss. it just takes practice, you'll get the hang of it and when you do you will find out how great they are. plus u can use them in a dogfight unlike guided rockets

  • @nicky69691 Its just practice. Its hard. When i started playing bf3 all i wanted to do is go in jets. Now its like why even bother, i can take out the tank with mines or rpg much faster.

  • @Kiyi1994 I play on xbox how about you?

  • @WillMcLovin like BF1943. :)

  • @WillMcLovin i wish battlefield had no massivley overpowered weapons to kill us noobs like me

  • lmfaoooo when he started speeding up the clip was about to say dam wtf that shit go its turbo on lol

  • @1:34

    Enemy jet has seen you, does a 180 degree turn to tail you, you're dead.

    We need real evasion techniques please.

  • What do you play on? I'll give you some tips, and let you practice on me if you want.

  • @Kiyi1994 i play ps3 u?

  • dude i get jet kills every 15 seconds do not use your missles at cloase range

  • Good tips, but i'd prefer using cannon instead. Basic furball tactics are good too. Using turnfight is good if your not into middle of the map. Mainly your taking the FOE away killing tanks, and secondly you have your other jet in the air too to fill that flying coffing with some holes.

    You should also use altitude as an advantage even theres no ENERGY play with the vehicles. As you might know, altitude is same as speed and energy to win the fight.

    Good games soldier!

  • the heatseaker wil give away your position as the target knows your locking on to him! so he knows your on his six and he wil, if he is smart give you a hard time to give you that lock on!

    try to switch them on if you are sure you are gonna get a good lock on, when he just deployed his flares and your on his six.

    otherwise use your main cannon ;)

  • heat seekers for sissies 

  • rocket pods on a tank then finish it off with your gun easiest way to get kills

  • "She ask's for your credit card"! HAHAHHHHAAA

    

  • HELP! she asked me for my credit card!

  • As far as i know when u launch 2 heat seekers against a jet, the "life" the jet have left is 9%, if it started off with 100% armor.

  • Heatseekers are best for tanks and choppers.

  • This is good but like INY79's comment if you use the mg you would have taken down that jet pretty quick.

  • who uses heat seekers? all they do is let the other guy no your chasing him just learn to use the machine gun and you will be king

  • @BlazinBlood pppft i use rocket pods

  • @BlazinBlood If you were a true king, you would realise that not all pilots stay in a line. If the pilot is going relatively straight and is smart, and you start using MG, they will start to do sharp turns to ensure you can't hit them. Heatseekers not only makes other pilots panic, but enable you to deal extra dmg.

    Sincerely,

    A jet pilot who has Jet Service Star 2.

    psn: Commanchie

  • @Ultamaz thats a stupid comment since the best time to hit an enemy jet is when there trying to evade you since when there turning they make a much bigger target making it alot easier to hit them with the machine thats how i get most of my kills, unless your a terrible aim with the machine gun which clearly your pointing out you are. and if your a half decent pilot and no how to adjust your air speed for the tighest turn then your target should out turn you. ps im service star 6

  • @BlazinBlood LOL THATS EVEN MORE STUPID. Feel free to try and gun me down with ur MG, whilst i start doing spirals and lead you into AA guns. I'm going to stick to what i do to last 10 minutes; Switch to MG when they're on the straight, HSM when they start to evade.

  • @Ultamaz you do that retard ill drop you out of the sky before your even half way through 1 of your *spirals*,i last a whole game, you last 10mins? i rest my case rookie tryin to talk down to me like he knows what he is on about so ill chose to end this entertaining discussion here goodnight.

  • @BlazinBlood My conquest games last 10 minutes retard LOL. Gl trying to take out people spinning circles and doing fakies. You're obviously clueless, thinking that you can take out jets pulling off hard manouvers by flying straight ahead.

  • @BlazinBlood It's much easier to kill using heat seekers since once you get a lock, you don't have to do anything other than press 'fire'. Even if the other guy uses deploys flares, it takes a bit longer to reload the flares than to get a lock on and fire another heat seeker.

    Machine guns are mostly used AFTER the jet has been disabled, so you can get an easy kill.

  • This might be the case for console. On PC if you don't case you will be chased.

  • If your Game style in jets is to avoid the chase then why do you need a air radar? you have enough time to spin around and find them, use something helpful like maintenance or stealth. Like, Fav and Subscribe!

  • XD all those stupids using heat seakers. The moment I feel a lock I make a turn, and you're stuck there with no gun experience, only stupid missiles. I turn around and destroy ya.

  • i really hope you aren't serious in this vid, just use your .30 mil canon for the jets and you'll get the destroy alot quicker. also if the helo is your priority then other decent pilots have a clean shot at you the entire time your chasing after it.

  • you suck at flying 0.0

  • I just wish there could be a training mod for retards who always destroy copters... and jets too.

  • you dont get kills because u use heatseekers... mg is lethal and you should practice with that if u want to be a truely skilled jet pilot

  • @INY79 MG BAD

  • @INY79 wrong. hit the enemy like with 20 bullets from MG than 2 HS should destroy it completly

  • @INY79 I agree heatseekers are not needed, rocket pods allow you to take out tanks, LAVs and mobile AAs

  • @INY79 mg? guided missle?

  • @loflol mg machine gun smart one

  • @INY79 Plus thats what they did in WW2

  • bs

  • You'd be FUBAR if there was anyone who CAN fly in the Flanker...

  • theys days people who play with jets and who really are good not noobs they wait that you bail from chase circle moment and attack you like a wolf with hunger. ( around 60hours with jet )

  • yeah,sometimes they don't give u points only when u kill him and destroy the jet

  • do you know that you can confuse the lock-on system by flying around next to your allies?

    because it seems to distract the lock-on system as it jumps from one jet to the other

  • @LeonWolf100 That bug is fixed.

  • your tips will only work on for unexperienced pilots, i would chase you without problem with the air radar, and then if you make any mistake, i'd be on your six and kill you. Heat seakers are annoying but not effective.

  • i wish battlefield had an all jet team deathmatch.

  • @WillMcLovin One day *Looks to the sky*

  • @WillMcLovin You can go on Battlelog and but it on the wishlist.

  • @WillMcLovin it already exists, its a game called "Ace Combat: Assault Horizon"

  • @WillMcLovin thats Ace Combat.

  • @WillMcLovin That was in Battlefield 1943 right? :)

  • @WillMcLovin then add the idea on the fourm please!

  • @WillMcLovin This is what all jet match will sound like. "Beep Beep Beep Beep BEEEEEEEEEP AIYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAA *flares* Beep Beep Beep Beep BEEEEEEP.... and so on and so forth till you quit because your eardrums rupture.

  • @WillMcLovin Go email that idea to EA right now :D

  • @WillMcLovin battlefield 1943 has an all plane conquest thing

  • @WillMcLovin its called ace combat assault horizon

  • @WillMcLovin i'd be at the bottom evey time

  • I got Air Radar, IR Flares and Guided missiles. At the moment my perfect combination, I never get shot down (maybe 1 time a game max, or I just accidentaly hit a light pole). The most important thing you need to learn is to play with your speed to turn faster your plane and also the right turning corner. If you can do that you are a master in flying.

  • @Steviedatv guided missiles are super weak... you have to come from max distance to get a hit and hope your mg can finish them off... rocket pods are much better... 1 round of pods is a garenteed disable and at max distance you can reload before you make your flyby

  • @Tj1056 Yeh idd, when I posted the previous comment I only had guided for the first day, now I've tried to kill people with it, I can only take out jeeps.... And like the javeline it's unable to hit armored vehicules on water. But I think I'm gona keep use the guided because I maybe dogfight like one of the best but...my groundattack is horrible, 50% of hitting an obstacle... and I can't see the targets from far away unless they tag it. Or ill just have to buy a HD tv :D

  • @Steviedatv air radar will spot vehicles on the map and spot them in 3rd person for you... you do not need people to spot for you

  • @Tj1056 yeh but only on the mini map which isn't that clear.... to use canon and pods you require to know the exact position of the enemy

  • @Steviedatv aim your cross hairs in the direction of the vehicle and you can spot it from across the map in a jet...

  • @Tj1056 Maybe it's just our different ways to fly... I try to fly as less far as possible from the target so I turn very fast but also it gives less time to track and destroy the target. Maybe this is my problem...

  • ur shit sorry

  • When I disengage a chase I go below radar,use the afterburner and shoot out chaff (ECM) to blind their radar then attack from another angle. That's unless he's good then he's chasing you regardless.

    If you acted like this against me I'd have been on your tail with cannons blazing no noob seekers.

  • a good wingman will steal air to air missle locks for you when your out of flares.

  • @BOYDY168 Left Trigger Brakes, Right Trigger Throttle, Left Anaglog Pushed for Afterburner.

  • how do you use the brakes? doesn't say in controls :/

  • (On xbox)

  • How i use : bf3 jet extinguisher

    Act like im going to crach then use it then chase that basterd xD

  • /watch?v=k8KFNfIcvaY&feature=p­lcp&context=C3217582UDOEgsToPD­skIXP3BR4R5fKvZFB4Lbwz5b

    for real jet flying

  • mate, look im sorry but u dont know how to fly, u wouldnt last 2 min against me nd my friends, theres two tips of jets, conquest where its all about team work, nd rush where its about one chase victory nd spawn destroing them afterwards for u to atake the tanks

    if u just dared stop chassing a good pilot well let me tell u, chassing wouldnt be the only thing you would stop doing

  • Don't listen to a word he says :)

  • Anyone know how to break out of a circle lock? I know the optimal turning speed but no matter how tightly I turn, the enemy easily shoots me down in a few seconds. This only happens with the best pilots. It's impossible to get them off your tail. Perhaps I should try disengaging. I use Air radar, flares, and heat seekers.

  • @blitzwaffe same thing happens to me, i always try to go up and gain altitude in that case and then do diagonal flips to lose them

  • @blitzwaffe use this stealth,extinguisher and rocket pods or guided missiles for ground control after u win the 1vs1 or 1vs2 or 2vs2 dog fight, most of the pros use the primary weapon(machine gun) to win dog fights. if u wanna turn hit the breaks and then at half of the turn that depending on the situation use either after burner or just normal or even let the plane stabilize the speed

  • The problem is that only the SU-25 Frogfoot and the A-10 Thunderbolt has cannons that are truly effective against tanks. The F/A-18 Super Hornet and the SU-35BM Flanker E however has cannons that are mostly effective against aircraft and does minor damage against tanks. The solution is to use rocket pods, but it replaces heat seeking missiles which are important for dogfights.

  • @blitzwaffe If you ask me, heat seekers are useless against seasoned pilots, even with flares already used, there are maneuvers that can get rid of the missiles after you, in my opinion your cannon is your best weapon in dog fighting and for helicopter, and the rockets/guided missile is to help on the ground enemy units and for that pesky AA!!

  • @N1ghtChao totaly agree, heat seakers are crap... i dont even need flares to avoid them ... ffar are much better cuz u can engage tanks, cannon is 100x better than missles in airfight just as u said... I can't believe that someone can make a SCIENCE in this topic... even in chase u can trumph the enemy ... with decreasing and increasing speed just as u need and watching his position ... That 1st plane he was chasing x mins i would get down in few seconds... it's nothing hard ...

  • @vzq93 not if you use the heat seekers correctly...

  • In my opinion.....

    Jet Loadout....

    Air radar, flares, rocket pods

    If the jets are not much of threat to you, take the tanks out of the ground and give a major help to your friendly on the ground.

    Then take the chopper out of the sky....easy target, good points

    last take the jets out....

    I think if you have a radar, then you clearly know if jets are threat to you or no...so go for the fucking tanks...and get loads of points

    (but if jets are threat to you, then take the jets out first)

  • i would argue to go after higher priority targets. in my perspective, a helicopter always comes second, and a jet first. i rather take the jets out before engaging choppers and tanks.

    but if a chopper is really easy to take out.. i would take that chopper out first.

    another thing i would argue going in to a chase rather then stepping out is, when i got a tailer i would never stop searching him till he's death. so stepping out while i'm flying give me the chance tot take you out.

    thats just me

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  • Nice flyin' tactics

  • why do people even use heat seekers?

    everyone's got flares anyway so its just a waste of time.

    anyone with decent skill can score kills easily with the cannon, also air-to-ground missiles are very handy, since it's very likely that some kind sould is laser painting easy kills for you.

  • @vzq93

    heat seekers are great against helis though. I took out a few helis using a jet. Its great. some people dont know how to use flares properly and deploy them too early, that way you can lock on and get the kill

  • @RainfulPhenix

    if the heli pilot is skilled its likely he will win the fight with heat seekers

    but take the cannon and attack from above there is not a single thing he can do

  • Your not as good as you thing, no offence. I have all the unlocks, but what I recommend using is just the basic gun on your jet to kill other jets and use heat-seekers against helicopters. When you are shooting at a jet and it's go straight up or sideways like this - | ( - = you and | =enemy) then aim just above their cockpit and tare their plane apart.

  • the moment at which you paused the video for the first time is the perfect time to brake and turn hard and you'll be directly behind him.

  • if you need missiles to take out enemy aircraft then you're probably the wrong person to take advices from. the only time you should disengage is if you've been locked on and fired at, you released flares and now they are locking on again, before flares have been reloaded.

    that being said, I'm playing on the PC with a joystick, it might be a different story on the consoles, but then again it's your fault for buying BF3 for a console.

  • Fantastic tut mate !

  • Heatseekern00b use ur main gun like a pro

  • honestly don't think this guy can fly... using the heat seekers... boring and to easy

  • at 2:06 mabey he use ir flairs

  • I don't have BF3 yet so i've been playing BattleField 1943 to get used to flying the jets.

  • i laugh at any pilot trying to lock me with heatseekers and know right then that they dont have a chance. i might even leave another jet or heli alone to focus on the ground but if you try and lock me you are going down. the only way heatseekers are even a remote threat is from a heli. all they do is tell someone to fly erratically when you can just get right on someone with the cannon without any warning. this also does very little to help the team.

  • This is the worst tutorial I've ever seen. You have no idea what you are talking about and you are a terrible pilot. Please stay out of jets for the sake of your team.

  • Play on the PC, aim properly and take them down with a single mg burst. Problem solved.

  • when she asks for my credit card i just deploy my flares

  • heat seekers suck IMO

  • and of course a bang xD nice tutorial it helped

  • This won't work against any decent pilots. They'll just get behind you, and shoot you down.

  • I can hear the American Michigan accent

  • nice work on the vid it help me a little

  • A lot of your points in disengaging aren't necessarily a bad idea for you, but your wingman would generally benefit from you being in the area as a threat at all times, rather than leaving combat for periods of time. I realize not everyone needs the hep but... It happens...

  • I have a nice tip if you got somone on your tail: Fly directly into the sunlight. It's a good chance they'll lose you since they can't see a damn thing. And yeah, as someone mentioned before; hard breaking is good. Slow down and turn sharp. Then just hope for someone to fence him away since you will be trying to loose him at your main base.. hopefully. I rescued alot of my fellow Jets by shooting down their chasers.

  • can i add you on PS3?

  • wow...people disagree with disengagement? i wish i seen this alot sooner, i spend the whole game trying to get on someones tail by chasing.

    this helped alot, awesome vid

  • i havent even got the missiles yet

  • heat seekers suck ass. everyone got flares. Just simple gun them down with the machine gun. thats the way to go. Its faster, it's save and I chase someone for 10sec and then he's gone.

  • should experiment on hard braking. Not many ppl knows about it. Plus your best bet when ur sneaking onto a jet is to use the machine gun. Take em out before they realize someone is engaging them.

  • A good pilot wouldnt even bother with heat seekers and would set up a good angle to kill him in one quick machine gun burst. Currently im at 1500 jet kills and my chases last about 20 seconds.for an average pilot.

  • Nice vid, but a video on how to get out of a jet on your tail, or how to get out of the endless looping you get into without getting mowed down would be even more appreciated =)