i have this "dry needling' every week. it does hurt a lot, but it really helps! i've had this therapy 4 times now (in my shoulder). my physio says it is bizzar how much tension there is in my shoulder (that's why it hurts a lot in my case). for some people it may not hurt but for me it really does. and i am not a person who have pain very fast so it does hurt. but yeah, i recommend this to everyone who has this kind of problems. it really helps!
I suppose that less than 500 physios are using trigger point dry needling. With more than 20 000 physios in the Netherlands you may say that is not widely used, but the group of physios that use this technique is rapidly growing.
How many physical therapist use it in the Netherlands? Is that a widely used technique there?
I know from someone who has a straight neck condition and every month he has dry needling, as far as I know he no longer has any pain or problem in his neck what so ever. He has tried many other ways like local massage but dry needling has been the best and the quickest to take spasms out. He also combined it with daily exercise.
I thought Yun tao ma in his book Biomedicine Acupuncture for sports and trauma Rehabilitation Dry needling technique states on page p 257 that no piston type movements or rotating are needed and is discouraged.. yet its obvious here that the thrusting technique from TCm is being used...
How is it that you assume that because the practitioners don't work under the titles of Acupuncturists, that they are untrained? I know for a fact that my physiotherapist is greatly trained in trigger point dry needling and she is very good at it. I also have friends that used to work in physio and remedial therapy and they are aware that such dry needling training exists. You all sound just as pretentious as I was about body piercing when I used to work in the field.
@JATenterprises I'm getting trigger point dry needling done on my leg at the moment for a sports injury. I wouldn't say that it hurts, but it's definitely an interesting sensation. It's quite a buzz once you get used to it :)
This is acupuncture. Call it whatever you want, but by state definitions this is acupuncture and unless you are a qualified state licensed acupuncturist, you have no business practicing. This is the equivelant of an acupuncturist doing surgeries and calling it "wet needling". Total BS. If you are looking for acupuncture, please seek out a qualified state licensed acupuncturist who is properly trained. If you want to practice acupuncture, GO TO SCHOOL FOR IT!!!.
Very poor example. The reason this is called dry needling is because there is no injectable involved with needling the trigger point. There's no such thing as "wet needling", its simply a trigger point injection. We are treating the exact same areas a physician would be when injecting a corticosteroid into a taught muscle band except we use no medication, and are using much smaller and thin needles. There is no treatment of "energy flow"/chi, or anything Acupunture related
This is absolutely acupuncture. These practitioners are needling Ah Shi points and do not have the appropriate training to do this therapuetically. This is not within their scope of practice. This is however, a technique that acupucnturists do regularly to treat the same conditions the PT's are treating. I am an acupuncturist, which means I have over 1900 hours of training in my field. "Dry needling" is an invented term to make it seem to be different than acupucnture.
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"Dry Needling" vs Acupuncture
Call it what it is, he is a oil change techician trying to replace a timing belt.
You should enroll yourself in a TCM school and learn the significance of what you are doing. You can be helping your patients so much more.
mattioooooo 3 weeks ago
i have this "dry needling' every week. it does hurt a lot, but it really helps! i've had this therapy 4 times now (in my shoulder). my physio says it is bizzar how much tension there is in my shoulder (that's why it hurts a lot in my case). for some people it may not hurt but for me it really does. and i am not a person who have pain very fast so it does hurt. but yeah, i recommend this to everyone who has this kind of problems. it really helps!
1998damien 3 months ago
@1998damien
thank you for sharing this! I know it's older post, but thanks a lot. Hope you found permanent relief!:)
whitebluebug 1 month ago
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1998damien 3 months ago
I suppose that less than 500 physios are using trigger point dry needling. With more than 20 000 physios in the Netherlands you may say that is not widely used, but the group of physios that use this technique is rapidly growing.
myofascialepijn 1 year ago
How many physical therapist use it in the Netherlands? Is that a widely used technique there?
I know from someone who has a straight neck condition and every month he has dry needling, as far as I know he no longer has any pain or problem in his neck what so ever. He has tried many other ways like local massage but dry needling has been the best and the quickest to take spasms out. He also combined it with daily exercise.
jtmedina75 1 year ago
I thought Yun tao ma in his book Biomedicine Acupuncture for sports and trauma Rehabilitation Dry needling technique states on page p 257 that no piston type movements or rotating are needed and is discouraged.. yet its obvious here that the thrusting technique from TCm is being used...
ivycycle 1 year ago
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trublood06 1 year ago
How is it that you assume that because the practitioners don't work under the titles of Acupuncturists, that they are untrained? I know for a fact that my physiotherapist is greatly trained in trigger point dry needling and she is very good at it. I also have friends that used to work in physio and remedial therapy and they are aware that such dry needling training exists. You all sound just as pretentious as I was about body piercing when I used to work in the field.
superchook87 1 year ago
Is this painful?
JATenterprises 1 year ago
@JATenterprises I'm getting trigger point dry needling done on my leg at the moment for a sports injury. I wouldn't say that it hurts, but it's definitely an interesting sensation. It's quite a buzz once you get used to it :)
superchook87 1 year ago
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Russinne 1 year ago
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This is acupuncture. Call it whatever you want, but by state definitions this is acupuncture and unless you are a qualified state licensed acupuncturist, you have no business practicing. This is the equivelant of an acupuncturist doing surgeries and calling it "wet needling". Total BS. If you are looking for acupuncture, please seek out a qualified state licensed acupuncturist who is properly trained. If you want to practice acupuncture, GO TO SCHOOL FOR IT!!!.
MrGitalyfe 1 year ago
@MrGitalyfe
Very poor example. The reason this is called dry needling is because there is no injectable involved with needling the trigger point. There's no such thing as "wet needling", its simply a trigger point injection. We are treating the exact same areas a physician would be when injecting a corticosteroid into a taught muscle band except we use no medication, and are using much smaller and thin needles. There is no treatment of "energy flow"/chi, or anything Acupunture related
ianwvu 1 year ago
This is absolutely acupuncture. These practitioners are needling Ah Shi points and do not have the appropriate training to do this therapuetically. This is not within their scope of practice. This is however, a technique that acupucnturists do regularly to treat the same conditions the PT's are treating. I am an acupuncturist, which means I have over 1900 hours of training in my field. "Dry needling" is an invented term to make it seem to be different than acupucnture.
monkeybliss77 1 year ago