I don't know if this satire was BY Baha'is or a satire about Baha'is. Either way, I'm a Baha'i and thought it was hilarious. And, I liked how you worked Ruhi into the lyrics. Really funny! You're other vid on Mehran school is brilliant too. Keep up the good work.
@MrHolyGoat If you know so much about how Baha'u'llah has made mistakes with His work and has used poor Arabic grammar, then please state some specific examples, with names of books and page numbers, where He has made such mistakes. I'll bet you won't reply.
Quran 33:40. When you seal something then nothing more may be added to it. When at a store you check the seal, like on a bottle of aspirin, and if the seal is broken, you do not buy it because some one may have added poison to it. Baha u llah added poison. I am a messenger of God. I warn, and I teach, but I add no new verses.
God's revelation can never be exhausted as evident in the verse above. Muhammad was indeed the seal of the prophets(Nabi) but Baha'u'llah was NOT a Nabi. He was God's latest messenger for this age and he wont be the last. God will send messengers to guide mankind until the end of time. Or do you forbid him to do so?
واقعاً خجالت آور و توهین آمیز است/هم برای موسیقی ایران وهم برای جامعه بهایی/من به عنوان یک بهایی شرمگین شدم/چه بسیار هنرمندان بهایی بودند که از همه هستی خود گذشتند و تسلیم ابتذالی چنین نشدند.
@hamidtebyanian I think you are taking it too hard. this is beautiful and as a Bahai I enjoyed listening to it. nothing wrong about it . you should take it easy. .... Tarke tasobat jaheliye!
Yes he did say he's god because when he was writing the holly book Aqdas, the reference was God. in another word God was telling him what to write down (all prophets get their instructions from God) so it's clear God is guiding you to follow his rules...
God does not make mistakes when he tells you things but Bahaullah has made mistakes with his work. How is it possible for man who is inspired by God and one who claims to be Manifestation of God make mistakes with poor Arabic grammar? I am sorry but Bahuallah was a false Prophet and you are following a man who was a liar.
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Baha'ullah claimed that `every star had planets revolving round it & every planet had life' !
"Thou hast, moreover, asked Me concerning the nature of the celestial spheres...Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute".
NASA is spending billions of dollars on research on their search for extraterrestrial life, but are yet to find any trace of life but Baha'ullah clearly claimed that there is life. He is wrong!
A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, STRENGTHENING him." (Luke, 22:43) If he was the perfect mirror of God, why would an angel be required to "STRENGTHENING HIM" when he is already the perfect image of God?
Jesus was also tempted by evil, how can God or the perfect mirrors of God be tempted by evil? Furthermore, if Jesus says that "no man has seen God at anytime" - how can Jesus or Baha'ullah be the perfect mirrors of God? That's against what Jesus has said. John 1:18 no man has seen God at any time.
... with these and other defects which are manifest in its history, can the Baha'i world faith be an adequate religion for the world for today, and for the millennium to come? Only one answer is possible, and that is decidedly negative."
"With its lack of clarity in its doctrine of God; with its legalism which characterizes its Most Holy Book; with its prescription in this Book of practices long since outdated; with the inadequacy of its treatment of sin and of its provision for the cure of evil in man; with the vagueness of its teaching about life after death; with the gross failure of its founders to exemplify among their own families the love they so strongly advocated..
There are authors who write hundreds of books but does that make them great? Your argument is baseless. Over 1.5 billion people on this Earth accept Islam and Quran. our Holy Book is flawless, its infallible. Bahaullah's work has errors and contradicts itself in many cases, its a work of man and that is why it has not been translated to Farsi up to this date. Even the Arabic version has great defects in grammar and word usage.
Bab also ask his followers not to question the faith or the founder of the faith and yet it calls for independent investigation. It also talks about equality of men and women but no woman is allowed as the ministers for the universal house of justice. I am asking the Bahai people, what kind of equality are you preaching to the world because its clearly a lie.
I have proven to you that Bahaullah is a false prophet according to the Quran and Bible, therefore; and I am sure you can't come up with evidence to proof me wrong. You have the right to whatever you believe but Islam and Christianity reject Bahaullah as a Prophet or the return of Christ, Mahdi or Imam Husyn.
We know through studies that alcohol does cause arrhythmias, brain damage, diabetes, heart damage, hypertension, liver disease, stomach ulcers, and loss of feeling. Alcohol consumption also leads to serious problems involving health, relationships with family and friends, work, and finances. According to the U.S. Drunk Driving Statistics, 15,387 Americans died in the year of 2007. This is why Islam does not allow alcohol consumption because it harms you and others around you.
This is only half of what the Holy Quran has taught us, I can go on and on. The point is that, there is no other book in the face of this planet which has so much information about the following which I listed below. Remember this was written 1400 years ago when people knew nothing about these things. Baha'u'llah wrote his book less than 200 years ago, there is the difference plus he couldn't even come up with 1/4 of what Mohammad (Pbuh) revealed to the World.
The fecundating winds, the stages of wind formation, how the process of photosynthesis brings in the morning, the seas not mingling with one another, the darkness in the seas and internal waves, the region that controls our movements, the birth of a human being, the creation of human beings from water, creation from clay, programming in genes, the menstrual period, the sequence in development of human organs, the formation of milk, the miracle of honey, the identity in the finger print.
... continued - black holes, pulsars, pulsating stars, the star Sirius, light and dark, combustion without fire, the weight of clouds, the formation of rain, rain which bring dead land back to life, the formation of hail, thunder and lighting....
Quran also talks about the following: The layers of the atmosphere, the protected roof, the sky made of dome, the returning sky, the layers of the earth, the earth disgorges its charges, the function of mountains, the movement of mountains, and different points in the rising and setting of the sun, land loss at the extremities, the splitting earth, the miracle of iron, the formation of petrol, the relativity of the time, the truth of destiny, duality in creation, sub-atomic particles... etc
Quran was written 1400 years ago, when the World knew nothing about science but Bahaullah wrote his ideas in less than 200 years ago during a period where Quran had revealed everything to humans and science and technology was growing slowly. Quran spoke clearly about Atomic energy and fission, again Bahaullah copied nuclear energy and evolution from the Quran. Whatever Bahaullah wrote was from the ideas which were already written by scientists of that time. He also copied Quran verses too.
The Holy Quran is the only book on the face of this planet which has so many scientific facts which makes today's scientist revert to the religion of Islam - that is what Mohammad brought the truth! Baha'ullah brought his dreams that one day that there will be world currency and universal language. Is this what you call a new teaching which has not even come true and is unlikely to ever come true?
The Universal House of Justice (UHJ) clearly states that it is not permissible to teach the Bahai Faith to Israelites. Is it that the Bahais have a clandestine arrangement with Israel that in exchange of the permission to reside in Israel, the Bahais would not try and convert any Jews? And it is interesting that only Jews living in Israel are off-limits for Bahai missionaries. Christians and Muslims living in Israel are welcome targets for Bahais to introduce their 'Universal' doctrine.
Baha'ullah is a false prophet for the following reasons:
1. Baha'ullah claimed that all Prophets were manifestation of God, in fact he was the only who claimed that he was the manifestation of God. Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim, Mohammad never claimed to be manifestation of God.
2. Baha'ullah claims to be the prophet of every religion, including Jesus as his second coming. According to Quran, Jesus will return on the day of judgment not in a form a Iranian guy who claimed to be manifestation of God.
i believe it says in the bible that jesus is the image of an invisible god (manifestation). baha'u'llah fulfils every prophecy in the bible and the qu'ran
That is what you have heard but it is not in the bible. The bible has 64 four different authors, there are 67 books inside the bible and 74 in the Roman Catholic bible. These books are the work of authors not Jesus himself. Baha'ullah is a false prophet, he claimed to be Jesus, Avatar, Krishna, Buddha, Imam Mahdi and Imam Husyn. He is a joke, a false prophet made by the Jews for Iranian people.
made by the jews? that is so far from the truth i'm not even sure if you're serious. it's really funny watching the muslims accusing jews for everything and vice versa. there are more than 7 references in the bible to the return of christ and the coming of the spirit of truth in 1844. it is in the bible. i've read it. it's there.
The spirit of the truth was Mohammed and he fulfilled whatever Jesus couldn't teach for his people during his time. That is why he said that, "I have many things to tell you but you can't bare them now, when he, the spirit of the truth comes, he will guide you to all the truth". That was Mohammad and he was the last and final messenger of God. Baha'ullah claimed to be Jesus, but both in the bible and Quran, Jesus comes when the World ends, thus, he is a false prophet.
Bahai' religion is a fake religion made by Baha'ullah. His book has countless errors, infact it has so many errors and mistakes that is why they have yet to publish that book into Farsi language but it has been published in many other languages. Your prophet is a false prophet and he claims to be so many different prophets, I think he is just a wanna be.
would you like to share with us a single mistake that Baha'u'llah has made? just one? to enlighten us. it's also funny to hear that you think that while society changed from Jesus' time to Muhammad, Muhammad has now told us everything we need to know about everything from 1000AD until the end of time. that's laughable. the Muslim world is tearing itself apart, but they clearly know what they're doing, i mean, they already know everything they need to know right? they're ALL ENLIGHTENED, RIGHT?
Tell me why the Farsi version of your book has not been published yet? Mohammad taught and brought many things that Jesus could not. Tell me what NEW thing has Bahai'ullah brought to this World for you? What has he taught you that Jesus or Mohammad couldn't or have not?
Baha'u'llah's writings are not NEARLY finished being translated yet, about 70% remain in fact. as for what he brought that was new, where do i start? equality of men and woman, the need for world government, world currency, universal language, the universal right to education, equality of all races and creeds, progressive revelation, harmony of science and religion... i could go on. Muhammad could have mentioned equality of men and women, but society could not bear the information at that time
there no way you can possibly argue that equality of men and women was brought into existence by Muhammad, no way, not a chance. and for a dream that will never come true, the prime minister of britain and expressed a need for a world government as has many politicians in america, a world currency is well on the way with the euro rapidly spreading and america wanting a shared currency with mexico and canada, and universal language will happen anyway, i would have thought that was obvious.
It's a only a dream that the World will have a world currency and a universal language. What Baha'ullah fails is to mention that world about this language and you bahai's are unable to introduce that language to the World. We all know Quran is full of scientific facts and miracles - what has Baha'ullah taught you in the case of science?
ah! sorry, i should have made myself clear. we do not intend to invent a new language! that would be counter-productive and obstreperous. but again, it will happen. it's not supposed to be a substitute either, just a second language common to everyone, probably english or chinese. as for science, Baha'u'llah says that evolution is fact, that around every fixed star there are planets, there are life on these planets, he predicted the invention of the silicon chip, the world wars...it goes on
The Holy Quran talks about many science related topics. It talks about relativity, anthropology, zoology, evolution, big bang, astronomy, jet propulsion labs, embryology, euthanasia, organ transplant and donation, determination of speed of light and many other great miracles that can be found in the Holy Quran written 1400 years ago. Evolution was mentioned by Mohammad in the Holy Quran, Baha'ullah just copied that because he was a Muslim before he created his own new religion.
There are 14 major languages in this World which are in triple digits, starting with #1 Mandarin which is spoken by 1120 Million speakers and # 15 Punjabi with 103 million speakers. It is impossible for any language to dominate and be a universal language. Bahaullahs dreams will never come true, he is just telling you fairytales that the World will be under one government, one currency, and one language. Can you quote him when he predicts the invention of the silicon chip?
you just talking as the Muslims at the time would have talked about all the things mentioned in the Qu'ran. you will see. it will happen. as for silicon chips, he picks up some grains of sand in his hand and says "one day you will be able to use these to talk to the whole world" and it happened. the same chemical (silicon dioxide) is found in every communications device in the world. you say copied? i don't see in the Qu'ran mention of the world wars, the fall of napoleon, nuclear energy etc.
The Holy Quran predicted the following: The victory of Byzantium, The conquest of Makkah, The exploration of space, Modern means of transport, Image transmission, The use of electricity, The army-ant in technology, The preservation of Pharaohs body, The tribe of Israel will become very haughty, The voyage to the moon, Plane technology, Smell transference, Artesian wells, Atomic energy and fission. This was done 1400 years ago not in 1863 where progression was made by humans.
It's a only a dream that the World will have a world currency and a universal language. What Baha'ullah fails is to mention the world about this language and you bahai's are unable to introduce that language to the World. We all know Quran is full of scientific facts and miracles - what has Baha'ullah taught you in the case of science?
Equality of men and woman was first brought by Mohammad, infact, he put an end to slavery which Jesus could not in his time. Harmony of science and religion was brought by Mohammad, you should read about the scientific miracles in the Quran. This is a dream by Baha'ullah which will never come true, world currency, universal language, world government, tell me what the new language for the Bahai religion is? Why have you not introduced it yet?
Bahhahaha U lahahahah could have mentioned not to condemn gays but he decided to copy the true and tried judeochristianislamofascist tradition
condemning gays solely on account of their sexuality:
An "Immorality" "spiritually condemned in the writings of Baha'u'llah", "not a permissible way of life", "A distortion of his or her nature which should be controlled and overcome", An "aberration subject to treatment."
Another reason why this cult is DOA -condemning 10 % of the worlds population.
yeah, damn. you'd think if you were just making up a religion you might actually want to get as many people in as possible. have you ever considered there might actually be a reason gay sex is ONE thing all the religions agree on? no, no you didn't. this is going to slow the rate of Baha'i growth immensely, but so will the no drinking policy, it doesn't really bother me that you don't agree. a same sex couple can't marry and no sex before marriage. if you don't like it, that's too bad
I listed for you a bunch of things where the Holy Quran talks about... what has Baha'ullah taught you or brought new to the World. Can you list about 20 new scientific facts?
list 20 facts? heck no. go read them yourself. wiki baha'i prophecy, not that you'll accept anything you read there despite it being fact. nothing you see there will be good enough for you. nothing that you will accept as true because you're hoping against hope it won't be. i don't see a singe scientific fact in the bible yet you accept that as fact. this this isn't what this is about. this is about finding out if God jumps through the hoops you have laid before him.
Well because there are no scientific evidence in the book of Bahaullah that is why you are unable to proof those facts. You asked me about Nuclear Energy, I gave you more than 40 different sayings which are present in the Quran and they are all true facts! We Muslims believe in the previous books but Quran states that Bible, Torah and Zaboor has been touched up by men and that is why some of the teachings contradict each other. We believe in no other Prophet after Mohammed.
THE book ? just the one then? you do realise Baha'u'llah wrote many books? hundreds? 70 times more then the entire Qu'ran. making it more than any other person has ever written? those facts that you saw and i told you you wouldn't believe (and you didn't) they have all been dated before the time of their respective event, i have seen many of them. there is cold hard evidence, those are facts, provable facts, you can go and look at them. so don't just tell be i'm unable to prove them.
Why did Bahaullah throw out the teachings of Bab as fabrications then he wrote his own version of the book and corrected the mistakes which Bab made to please his followers?
there weren't mistakes. for example, the Bab forbade his followers to eat onions and garlic because he knew "the one whom God shall make manifest" was in their midst and to breathe foul breath near him would be disrespectful. after he was manifest and revealed himself, that rule was no longer necessary. you're trying to say that by taking over and changing the writings was "to please his followers?" that doesn't make sense my friend. that would annoy them if anything, but they accepted him.
He did it to please his followers because if Bab was inspired by God or the Holy Ghost to write these things, why would Baha'ullah change them? When you say "God shall make manifest", what exactly do you mean?
i say "One whom God shall make Manifest" simply because that is how the Bab describes Baha'u'llah in the Bayán. you must understand the Bab is like the John the Baptist of the Baha'i Faith, announcing the imminent arrival of Baha'u'llah. many of his writings were simply announcements. Baha'u'llah merely had a different message to bring and point that needed to be brought to the attention of the people in the same way the divine message of Muhammad updated the woefully obsolete biblical texts.
When you say "One whom God shall make manifest", what exactly do you mean? We have manifestation of God in other faiths too, is Baha'ullah the Manifestation of God? Because all the other Prophets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) were not manifestation of God, they were Prophets and never claimed to be Manifestation of God.
it simply means God will reveal them. we believe that Baha'u'llah is a manifestation of God, just as we believe was Jesus and Muhammad. they may not have said they were manifestations of God, but weren't they? did they not make the Glory of God manifest to man? manifestation simply means through them we see God, they make him manifest to us in a way that no person can. Jesus said "he who has seen me hath seen the Father" either that's a very odd way of saying he IS god, or he's a manifestation
Matthew 25:34-46). "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. The Bahai belief is the Manifestations of God are the only channel for humanity to know about God, and they act as perfect mirrors reflecting the attributes of God into the physical world. Thus, why did Jesus say that no one is good except God if he is the perfect mirror of God?
the mirror despite it's perfect smoothness and cleanliness is useless if it's not reflecting the thing that's important to you. it's the image of the object you want to look at that determines how good the mirror is. jesus was the perfect way to see God. without God, Jesus would just be a man as any other. i use the exact same quote with christians who claim that Jesus is God, in his entirety, in the flesh. it doesn't make sense.
sorry, i thought i did answer it. he is the perfect mirror, yes, but it's not his own goodness. it's God's goodness. when we're good, we're all just reflecting God. we're the imperfect mirrors and Jesus is the perfect mirror. but that doesn't change anything. it's still all coming from God, it's still that "no one is good except God alone." i'm sorry if that doesn't make sense.
if he does not give into temptation he remains pure. do we not determine a good person by their ability to resist temptation? however close the knife comes to the mirror, if it doesn't touch it, the mirror remains flawless.
but he's not just God. if he was just God, he wouldn't be a mirror, he'd just be the light. the mirror is the physical body and mind of Jesus. he walked with us, we could see him. he was a man. men are tempted by the world around them. the difference between Jesus and us was that God light shone through him so strongly that he didn't give into temptation. i'm sure you'll agree that Jesus is not JUST God ?
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According to your Baha'i faith he was the "perfect mirror of God" which is not far different from the Christian belief. You still haven't answered my question properly, to how it is possible for the "mirror of God" or in other words "God" to be tempted by his own creation? Jesus never claimed divinity nor we Muslims believe that Jesus was God, manifestation of God or God incarnate. How is it possible for someone to be tempted when according to you he had "God's attributes"? Is God that weak?
this will be the third time answering this question, so get ready for it.
the "Mirror of God" is NOT "God". Jesus had a body and mind of his own. yes, he had God's attributes, God's SPIRITUAL attributes. God does not have 2 legs and 2 arms and a brain. Jesus is NOT God, they are different. God wasn't giving him a new brain. it was Jesus' physical brain that caused him to be tempted. but God was inpiring him spiritually, causing him to not give into temptation. he made God manifest to us.
You were off to a good start with the "just making up a religion" part. That's exactly what all religions are - made up. By men who were products of the time and culture in which they lived. And it shows. All religions are myth based nonsense for nincompoops. And science which is fact, reality and evidence based has debunked their preachments.
Alcohol in moderation has no deleterious effects. In fact a glass of wine with a meal (a hallmark of civilization) can be beneficial.
and so the majority of mankind drinks. and now, because of mankind's childlike nature and their inability to determine what's good for them, binge drinking is one of the greatest problems affecting western society today. you tell them not to drink any more, and mankind has a little tantrum and destroys itself some more. science has proven that it can't control humanity alone, as has religion.
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Baha'i is a religion that was made by the Israeli to divert the Muslims from Islam. It's a religion that believes in Mohammed (SWT) but they don't follow his teaching or the Quran. If you were to compare Baha'i to Judaism, they are very close because a lot of the teachings in the Baha'i religion was copied from Torah!
Have you studied Torah, and Quran. Just to make it easier for you Quran is taken from Quran. It`s all bull shit my friend. Go save yourself and study the history. Since you believe in Quran, compare torah and Quran side by side. Mohammad is not a prophet and as the matter of fact there is no God God didn`t create mankind, Man-Kind created God so, fuck all the prophets Hint: "Learn how to be human and respect Humanity"
I have studied Quran, Bible and Torah and there isn't a verse that is copied from either Bible or Torah, If you claim otherwise, then provide me the verses.
Don't say that there is no God because you believe in Baha'ullah, he is your false God. He is the one who claims to be the God & Prophet of every religion on this Earth. Surprisingly, your God Baha'ullah has Mohammad's name in your holy book, thus, how can he be fake?
You are assuming that I have inherited this religion. I have not; I have discovered it. Unlike other divine institutions, this one discourages you from imitation, and encourages you for the "independent investigation of truth".
Long Live Freedom of Thought, whether aithiest or God Loving.
I love you all, despite our idealogical differences. Baha u llah has said that "the purpose of religion should be to foster love in our hearts. If it causes division, we will be better off without it". So dear Ormon, you say no to what you don't believe; I'll say yes to what I believe. If this causes friction in your heart, that is very sad. Some Anti religious crusaders can be quite ruthless. I hope you are not one of them.
What's in it for the Israelis? I don't know. You tell me. Come out with your researched facts, please. Give me well-established and scientific document with statistics and numbers. No blurting outs, like "having a new religion in my dining room".
And FYI, not ONE dollar of the $ spent on Baha'i gardens was paid by anyone but members of the Baha'i Faith. Baha'is don't take donations from anyone who is NOT a Baha'i. Now that is a scientic fact.
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Bahaullah's own brother tried to kill him. If bahaullah was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
Religion is the source to most of humanity's DIVISIONS.
You care about Palestian cause, don't you? So do I. Have you ever sponsored a Palestian child and paid for his education? If you have, my hats off to you!! If not, please don't emulate what you hear and blurt it out, just because it feels good.
What do you want Israelis to do with Baha'i monuments? Would you be relieved if they bomb those monuments, as they have used their army to ruthlessly do so thru-out the middle-east conflict? Will you then take a sigh of relief and find your world put in a safe box?
I don't know where you get your information from. Israel has never attempted to destroy any historical monuments; whether Moslem, or Baha'i or Christian. Please don't mix up their treatment of Palestinians with an intention to destroy a historical holy place like Al-Aghsa. Do you really think if Israelis wanted to destroy that monumnet they would hesitate to do so? I don't think so. It is the barbaric Afghani Taleban who destroyed the statues of Buda.
Jesus has the answer for you, "...seeing they see not;
and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matt 13:13)
"He cometh with clouds" is a reference to this problem, too.
Indeed, He comes again in the clouds: preconceptions and misconceptions -
veils that interpose themselves preventing recognition and acceptance.
The Jews were in possession of the Book when they denied Jesus. There were certain prophecies they did not feel Jesus fulfilled... such grievous clouds!
As there are people there different tastes. This video has its charm and I like it. Thank you to those who sincerely are trying to put forth the Baha'i ideals in a different format to appeal to the musically minded. Dast Mariza. keep up the good work. looking forward to the next video
kheyli video bamazeyi boood.......age you pay attention mibinim ke bahai ha hame az khobi o safa o injor chiza harf mizanan...be nazar nemiyad chizi motazad be bahaiyat gofte shode bashe......bi ehterami ham nashode, sometimes it's good to have fun too.....good job lol
Bahai1844 how in the world does this silly video "inspire steadfastness" for crying out loud? and how does this Persian video in Persian based on a Persian song bring the Baha'i faith into the mainstream....? mainstream what? the world is falling apart, and if the Peaceful Baha'i faith has peace to offer, then bahais must do way more to spread their message than this sort of thing...
Please get rid of that retoric. It is getting kind of boring. Religion, in the hand of greedy manipulators, may have been at times a sourse of division.
But there has been horrible divisions made by Communists, by secular politicians, by Freedom Fighters, by those who have fought against injustices, etc. etc. Religion just gets a bad rap.
I'm not claiming corrupt governments such as China's communist regime are the answer.Religion gets a bad rap because history shows that it has been more of a source of division than a source of unity. Bahaullah's brother tried to kill him. If he was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
Allah-u-Abha! Ali bood, daste shoma dard nakone! Keep up the great work, this makes the Baha'i Faith more mainstream and inspires steadfastness, very unique. Keep up the creativity: this is wonderful. Ya Baha'u'l-Abha!
Baha'i's have been in Haifa 80 YEARS before the modern Israeli State. Thats even before the first aliyas.
The Baha'i World Centre, Shrine, was being built in Haifa BEFORE the modern Israel. All administrative activities were being done out of Haifa BEFORE even the notion of a modern Israeli state was being floated.
It's people like you who dont spend even 2 minutes doing your own research, and just repeat crazy fringe conspiracy theories created BY bigots, FOR bigots, to perpetuate bigotry.
1. I understand that they have been in Hayfa before the creation of the state of israel. But what surprises me is that israel has not done anything to shut down the Bahai Temple, but rather they financially support the Bahais. Israel obviously has has motives for their support of Bahais....NOW...this is not hard evidence, but it does throw up a RED FLAG
2. Bahai objectives fall exactly in line with New World Order- another red flag
Dear valerienanh, if you speak persian please watch watch?v=8MeHpUXjBxY. It answers #1.
#2 please see Bahai definttion of new world order in wikipedia. There is really nothing wrong with the "term" as we have seen result of 'current/old world order'. #3 Bahai temples are 9 sided to represent 9 major religns. Symbols on temple are just symbols of major religns.
Please do bit of investigations of your own and dont rely on others (including me) to do your work (said with due respect)
1) Israel does NOT financially support Baha'i's. That is a lie created by bigots. The Baha'i Administration in Israel is supported 100% by Baha'i's around the world. Israel has absolutely no reason to shut down anything Baha'i in Israel, are you crazy? Baha'i's have always been neutral.
2) What specific "new world order" conspiracy are you thinking of
3) There is NO freemason symbol on any Baha'i temple
You are the perfect example of bigotry I'm talking about. Do your own research.
Red Flag? Moslems have kept their most important holy site, after Mecca, in Israel. That is the Mosque of Al-Aghsa in Jeruselum. How is it that Moslems are not looked with suspicion? Please use logic and knwoledge next time, when you post your paranoid comments. Of course, not ot mention that Christians also have their holiest place, birthsite of Christ in Israel. Are they being paid by the Israelis? Lets get over paranioa promoted by Akhunds and look at fact.
The important difference that you don't seem to notice is that "israel" intends to & has been making a concerted effort to destroy Al-Aqsa & any remnants of Palestine. Where as the "New Bahai" movement was welcomed with open arms. If I wanted to form a new religion & center it in your living room, would you accept? OF COURSE NOT!!
The Red Flag is "israel's" warm welcoming & ACCEPTANCE. There must be some sort of "gain" for israel... no? Nothing is free- especially not "Holy Land"
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Bahaullah's own brother tried to kill him. If bahaullah was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
There were many in Bahá'u'lláh's family who turned against Him, because of their ephemeral pursuits. This is not a rare phenomenon in religious history. For example, in Islam, Muhammad's third wife Aisha raised an entire army against Imam 'Ali, and wanted Him and His followers killed. So no human being is exempt from tests. Bahá'u'lláh has laid the perfect foundation for world unity, but it is up to human beings whether or not they want to follow this perfect and Divine System.
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If you felt the video was humours and enjoyed it, wonderful. Otherwise, remember Abdu'l-Baha's admonistion "Night and day endeavor to attain perfect harmony; be thoughtful concerning your own spiritual developments and close your eyes to the shortcomings of one another.
Alaan keh Doustan-e Bahá'i dar Iran, dar zendaan yaa dar naaraahati-ye sakht hastand, dar vaghti keh Gabrestaan-e baha'i ra dar shahr-ha-ye mokhtalef kharaab mikonand, manzel va machin-e Ahebaa raa atash mizanand, moghe-yeh in jour shoukhi-haa (bazi ha migouyand "maskhareh") nist ! Agar maskhareh nist, cheh lozoumi beh gozashtan-e Kolah-gis (perruque) boud !? In jour shoukhi-haa raa mishavad 50 saal-e digar kard, na haalaa ! Eraadat-mand, R. M.
Mr. Mansour & Shahram SHAME ON YOU BOTH! YOU MADE ME LAUGH SOOOO MUCH! How dare you do such a wonderful act.
As a Baha'i youth, I am proud to see that people like you two are helping us develop our Baha'i culture and identity. Please keep it up... I am looking forward to a sequel.
After reviewing the comments to this video I will make an effort to have our next's children class deepening theme on the virtue of "Humor"
To Kmehrabi: Don't make assumption that one is not aware of "Bahai Principles". You seem upset and defensive And just knowing a few facts about a fith will not make me a good Bahai. It is up to you to define tolerance. And, Yes look it up Tolerance is in the faith, if you can't ask someone who knows. That is why I became Bahai in the 1st place. I saw the difference in the principles of the Bahai faith copared to Islam, and that was attractive to me. Maybe that is why I can tolerate this.
come on guys.Have a sense of humor. He is not making fun of Bahai faith, nor is he promoting or teaching anything about it. they are Just trying to be funny .i guess we all can use a giggle here and there. I dont think anyone should get offended. I am a Bahai and I was not offended.
I am not certain about the motives of the producer of this film. By no means can I call it an artistic performance nor the best introduction to the teaching of the Bahai faith. The producer seems to be very out of touch with good and meaningful arts. The lyrics seem to be picked very randomly with minimum thought given to quality. I would rate this as an extremely poor attempt on any unknown motive that the producer might have had.
Yes, Lennon said "its silly to be bitter .perhaps this is good advice for Mr Taeed's deep seated bittreness towards those who have respect for Bahai standards. Mr Taeed's cheesy portrayal is clearly a "bitter" stab related to his own experience as a frustrated non conformist, in need of ego pleasing attention.
Its a shameful waste of time for someone as educated and resourceful as Mansour; a sad disappointment for those who have known him since his youth.
besyar ziba va bahal bod eyval makhsusan ghesmate darsakhlaghesh va pepsi ke dige shahkar bod
babak4489 1 month ago
LOL. And the Pepsi Cola was a nice touch! (for those who know what it represents)
replay995 1 year ago
I don't know if this satire was BY Baha'is or a satire about Baha'is. Either way, I'm a Baha'i and thought it was hilarious. And, I liked how you worked Ruhi into the lyrics. Really funny! You're other vid on Mehran school is brilliant too. Keep up the good work.
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In video kari az afrade zede dianate elahiye bahai mibashad-------(-dianate bahai payam avare solhe jahani ast) ,( tasaaviye hoghoghe zan va mard) ,( vahdate alame bashariat) ,( vahdate adian) (,talimo tarbiate kodakan ) ( tataboghe din va danesh ), (azadiye zanan)) , (dar kol bahai bodan be manaye dar khedmate hamno koshidan ast, shad bashid.
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In video kari az afrade zede dianate elahiye bahai mibashad-------(-dianate bahai payam avare solhe jahani ast) ,( tasaaviye hoghoghe zan va mard) ,( vahdate alame bashariat) ,( vahdate adian) (,talimo tarbiate kodakan ) ( tataboghe din va danesh ), (azadiye zanan)) , (dar kol bahai bodan be manaye dar khedmate hamno koshidan ast, shad bashid.
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BEHZAD4319 1 year ago
How about a part 2...Mosalmoon, mosalmoon
tahdig 1 year ago
بابا بیخیال جدی نگیر شوخیه
اگه میخوای اینقد متعصب باشی بهتره همون اسلامو انتخاب کنی
این یه طنز خیلی جالب بود..
کسی که تحمل دیدنشو نداره . بهتره بدونه که بزرگترین گناه تو دین ما تعصب هست .وصلم
l3arfee 1 year ago
hahahahahahah omg bahal bod
etaheriri 1 year ago
@MrHolyGoat If you know so much about how Baha'u'llah has made mistakes with His work and has used poor Arabic grammar, then please state some specific examples, with names of books and page numbers, where He has made such mistakes. I'll bet you won't reply.
concordesm2010 1 year ago
@concordesm2010
I'll reply. Firstly, you must define God. Go for it. I await your response.
Sn4pDr4gon 9 months ago
Quran 33:40. When you seal something then nothing more may be added to it. When at a store you check the seal, like on a bottle of aspirin, and if the seal is broken, you do not buy it because some one may have added poison to it. Baha u llah added poison. I am a messenger of God. I warn, and I teach, but I add no new verses.
0099wrestler 1 year ago
@0099wrestler وَلَوْ أَنَّمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ مِن شَجَرَةٍ أَقْلَامٌ وَالْبَحْرُ يَمُدُّهُ مِن بَعْدِهِ سَبْعَةُ أَبْحُرٍ مَّا نَفِدَتْ كَلِمَاتُ اللَّهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ
God's revelation can never be exhausted as evident in the verse above. Muhammad was indeed the seal of the prophets(Nabi) but Baha'u'llah was NOT a Nabi. He was God's latest messenger for this age and he wont be the last. God will send messengers to guide mankind until the end of time. Or do you forbid him to do so?
replay995 1 year ago 2
واقعاً خجالت آور و توهین آمیز است/هم برای موسیقی ایران وهم برای جامعه بهایی/من به عنوان یک بهایی شرمگین شدم/چه بسیار هنرمندان بهایی بودند که از همه هستی خود گذشتند و تسلیم ابتذالی چنین نشدند.
hamidtebyanian 1 year ago
@hamidtebyanian I think you are taking it too hard. this is beautiful and as a Bahai I enjoyed listening to it. nothing wrong about it . you should take it easy. .... Tarke tasobat jaheliye!
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In video kari az afrade zede dianate elahiye bahai mibashad-------(-dianate bahai payam avare solhe jahani ast) ,( tasaaviye hoghoghe zan va mard) ,( vahdate alame bashariat) ,( vahdate adian) (,talimo tarbiate kodakan ) ( tataboghe din va danesh ), (azadiye zanan)) , (dar kol bahai bodan be manaye dar khedmate hamno koshidan ast, shad bashid.
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Yes he did say he's god because when he was writing the holly book Aqdas, the reference was God. in another word God was telling him what to write down (all prophets get their instructions from God) so it's clear God is guiding you to follow his rules...
ashkangiutin 1 year ago
Lol
God does not make mistakes when he tells you things but Bahaullah has made mistakes with his work. How is it possible for man who is inspired by God and one who claims to be Manifestation of God make mistakes with poor Arabic grammar? I am sorry but Bahuallah was a false Prophet and you are following a man who was a liar.
MrHolyGoat 1 year ago
very well done, its so funny
imanian84 1 year ago
In dige chi chi dige HA HA HA mashallah
djaneni 1 year ago
hahaha this made my day! Hilarious video and beautifully done so bravo! Keep up the great work!
shamimbina 2 years ago
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visionba 2 years ago
Great video Keep up the good work
songsforever99 2 years ago
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Baha'ullah claimed that `every star had planets revolving round it & every planet had life' !
"Thou hast, moreover, asked Me concerning the nature of the celestial spheres...Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute".
NASA is spending billions of dollars on research on their search for extraterrestrial life, but are yet to find any trace of life but Baha'ullah clearly claimed that there is life. He is wrong!
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
I love the instruments and music.
songsforever99 2 years ago
I really appreciate the bahai for producing such a fantastic video
songsforever99 2 years ago
A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, STRENGTHENING him." (Luke, 22:43) If he was the perfect mirror of God, why would an angel be required to "STRENGTHENING HIM" when he is already the perfect image of God?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
According to "God", The Gentiles Are Dogs: "It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." (Matthew, 15:26)
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist (Matthew, 3:13), which signified the confession of sins (Matthew, 3:6), and
repentance from sins (Matthew, 3:11)
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
"And when the devil had
ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season." (Luke, 4:13)
Meaning he will come back and try again to tempt him again?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Jesus was also tempted by evil, how can God or the perfect mirrors of God be tempted by evil? Furthermore, if Jesus says that "no man has seen God at anytime" - how can Jesus or Baha'ullah be the perfect mirrors of God? That's against what Jesus has said. John 1:18 no man has seen God at any time.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
What are they singing. It sounds great.
songsforever99 2 years ago
... with these and other defects which are manifest in its history, can the Baha'i world faith be an adequate religion for the world for today, and for the millennium to come? Only one answer is possible, and that is decidedly negative."
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
"With its lack of clarity in its doctrine of God; with its legalism which characterizes its Most Holy Book; with its prescription in this Book of practices long since outdated; with the inadequacy of its treatment of sin and of its provision for the cure of evil in man; with the vagueness of its teaching about life after death; with the gross failure of its founders to exemplify among their own families the love they so strongly advocated..
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
There are authors who write hundreds of books but does that make them great? Your argument is baseless. Over 1.5 billion people on this Earth accept Islam and Quran. our Holy Book is flawless, its infallible. Bahaullah's work has errors and contradicts itself in many cases, its a work of man and that is why it has not been translated to Farsi up to this date. Even the Arabic version has great defects in grammar and word usage.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Bab also ask his followers not to question the faith or the founder of the faith and yet it calls for independent investigation. It also talks about equality of men and women but no woman is allowed as the ministers for the universal house of justice. I am asking the Bahai people, what kind of equality are you preaching to the world because its clearly a lie.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
I have proven to you that Bahaullah is a false prophet according to the Quran and Bible, therefore; and I am sure you can't come up with evidence to proof me wrong. You have the right to whatever you believe but Islam and Christianity reject Bahaullah as a Prophet or the return of Christ, Mahdi or Imam Husyn.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
We know through studies that alcohol does cause arrhythmias, brain damage, diabetes, heart damage, hypertension, liver disease, stomach ulcers, and loss of feeling. Alcohol consumption also leads to serious problems involving health, relationships with family and friends, work, and finances. According to the U.S. Drunk Driving Statistics, 15,387 Americans died in the year of 2007. This is why Islam does not allow alcohol consumption because it harms you and others around you.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
what is the purpose of this video?
Diznab90 2 years ago
This is only half of what the Holy Quran has taught us, I can go on and on. The point is that, there is no other book in the face of this planet which has so much information about the following which I listed below. Remember this was written 1400 years ago when people knew nothing about these things. Baha'u'llah wrote his book less than 200 years ago, there is the difference plus he couldn't even come up with 1/4 of what Mohammad (Pbuh) revealed to the World.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
The fecundating winds, the stages of wind formation, how the process of photosynthesis brings in the morning, the seas not mingling with one another, the darkness in the seas and internal waves, the region that controls our movements, the birth of a human being, the creation of human beings from water, creation from clay, programming in genes, the menstrual period, the sequence in development of human organs, the formation of milk, the miracle of honey, the identity in the finger print.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
... continued - black holes, pulsars, pulsating stars, the star Sirius, light and dark, combustion without fire, the weight of clouds, the formation of rain, rain which bring dead land back to life, the formation of hail, thunder and lighting....
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Quran also talks about the following: The layers of the atmosphere, the protected roof, the sky made of dome, the returning sky, the layers of the earth, the earth disgorges its charges, the function of mountains, the movement of mountains, and different points in the rising and setting of the sun, land loss at the extremities, the splitting earth, the miracle of iron, the formation of petrol, the relativity of the time, the truth of destiny, duality in creation, sub-atomic particles... etc
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Quran was written 1400 years ago, when the World knew nothing about science but Bahaullah wrote his ideas in less than 200 years ago during a period where Quran had revealed everything to humans and science and technology was growing slowly. Quran spoke clearly about Atomic energy and fission, again Bahaullah copied nuclear energy and evolution from the Quran. Whatever Bahaullah wrote was from the ideas which were already written by scientists of that time. He also copied Quran verses too.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
The Holy Quran is the only book on the face of this planet which has so many scientific facts which makes today's scientist revert to the religion of Islam - that is what Mohammad brought the truth! Baha'ullah brought his dreams that one day that there will be world currency and universal language. Is this what you call a new teaching which has not even come true and is unlikely to ever come true?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
The Universal House of Justice (UHJ) clearly states that it is not permissible to teach the Bahai Faith to Israelites. Is it that the Bahais have a clandestine arrangement with Israel that in exchange of the permission to reside in Israel, the Bahais would not try and convert any Jews? And it is interesting that only Jews living in Israel are off-limits for Bahai missionaries. Christians and Muslims living in Israel are welcome targets for Bahais to introduce their 'Universal' doctrine.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
this is fake, right? i mean the guy on the right is just out of this world...
Rammbock 2 years ago
Baha'ullah is a false prophet for the following reasons:
1. Baha'ullah claimed that all Prophets were manifestation of God, in fact he was the only who claimed that he was the manifestation of God. Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim, Mohammad never claimed to be manifestation of God.
2. Baha'ullah claims to be the prophet of every religion, including Jesus as his second coming. According to Quran, Jesus will return on the day of judgment not in a form a Iranian guy who claimed to be manifestation of God.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
i believe it says in the bible that jesus is the image of an invisible god (manifestation). baha'u'llah fulfils every prophecy in the bible and the qu'ran
naryanr 2 years ago
That is what you have heard but it is not in the bible. The bible has 64 four different authors, there are 67 books inside the bible and 74 in the Roman Catholic bible. These books are the work of authors not Jesus himself. Baha'ullah is a false prophet, he claimed to be Jesus, Avatar, Krishna, Buddha, Imam Mahdi and Imam Husyn. He is a joke, a false prophet made by the Jews for Iranian people.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
made by the jews? that is so far from the truth i'm not even sure if you're serious. it's really funny watching the muslims accusing jews for everything and vice versa. there are more than 7 references in the bible to the return of christ and the coming of the spirit of truth in 1844. it is in the bible. i've read it. it's there.
naryanr 2 years ago
The spirit of the truth was Mohammed and he fulfilled whatever Jesus couldn't teach for his people during his time. That is why he said that, "I have many things to tell you but you can't bare them now, when he, the spirit of the truth comes, he will guide you to all the truth". That was Mohammad and he was the last and final messenger of God. Baha'ullah claimed to be Jesus, but both in the bible and Quran, Jesus comes when the World ends, thus, he is a false prophet.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Bahai' religion is a fake religion made by Baha'ullah. His book has countless errors, infact it has so many errors and mistakes that is why they have yet to publish that book into Farsi language but it has been published in many other languages. Your prophet is a false prophet and he claims to be so many different prophets, I think he is just a wanna be.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
would you like to share with us a single mistake that Baha'u'llah has made? just one? to enlighten us. it's also funny to hear that you think that while society changed from Jesus' time to Muhammad, Muhammad has now told us everything we need to know about everything from 1000AD until the end of time. that's laughable. the Muslim world is tearing itself apart, but they clearly know what they're doing, i mean, they already know everything they need to know right? they're ALL ENLIGHTENED, RIGHT?
naryanr 2 years ago
Tell me why the Farsi version of your book has not been published yet? Mohammad taught and brought many things that Jesus could not. Tell me what NEW thing has Bahai'ullah brought to this World for you? What has he taught you that Jesus or Mohammad couldn't or have not?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Baha'u'llah's writings are not NEARLY finished being translated yet, about 70% remain in fact. as for what he brought that was new, where do i start? equality of men and woman, the need for world government, world currency, universal language, the universal right to education, equality of all races and creeds, progressive revelation, harmony of science and religion... i could go on. Muhammad could have mentioned equality of men and women, but society could not bear the information at that time
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MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
there no way you can possibly argue that equality of men and women was brought into existence by Muhammad, no way, not a chance. and for a dream that will never come true, the prime minister of britain and expressed a need for a world government as has many politicians in america, a world currency is well on the way with the euro rapidly spreading and america wanting a shared currency with mexico and canada, and universal language will happen anyway, i would have thought that was obvious.
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MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
It's a only a dream that the World will have a world currency and a universal language. What Baha'ullah fails is to mention that world about this language and you bahai's are unable to introduce that language to the World. We all know Quran is full of scientific facts and miracles - what has Baha'ullah taught you in the case of science?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
ah! sorry, i should have made myself clear. we do not intend to invent a new language! that would be counter-productive and obstreperous. but again, it will happen. it's not supposed to be a substitute either, just a second language common to everyone, probably english or chinese. as for science, Baha'u'llah says that evolution is fact, that around every fixed star there are planets, there are life on these planets, he predicted the invention of the silicon chip, the world wars...it goes on
naryanr 2 years ago
The Holy Quran talks about many science related topics. It talks about relativity, anthropology, zoology, evolution, big bang, astronomy, jet propulsion labs, embryology, euthanasia, organ transplant and donation, determination of speed of light and many other great miracles that can be found in the Holy Quran written 1400 years ago. Evolution was mentioned by Mohammad in the Holy Quran, Baha'ullah just copied that because he was a Muslim before he created his own new religion.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
There are 14 major languages in this World which are in triple digits, starting with #1 Mandarin which is spoken by 1120 Million speakers and # 15 Punjabi with 103 million speakers. It is impossible for any language to dominate and be a universal language. Bahaullahs dreams will never come true, he is just telling you fairytales that the World will be under one government, one currency, and one language. Can you quote him when he predicts the invention of the silicon chip?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
you just talking as the Muslims at the time would have talked about all the things mentioned in the Qu'ran. you will see. it will happen. as for silicon chips, he picks up some grains of sand in his hand and says "one day you will be able to use these to talk to the whole world" and it happened. the same chemical (silicon dioxide) is found in every communications device in the world. you say copied? i don't see in the Qu'ran mention of the world wars, the fall of napoleon, nuclear energy etc.
naryanr 2 years ago
The Holy Quran predicted the following: The victory of Byzantium, The conquest of Makkah, The exploration of space, Modern means of transport, Image transmission, The use of electricity, The army-ant in technology, The preservation of Pharaohs body, The tribe of Israel will become very haughty, The voyage to the moon, Plane technology, Smell transference, Artesian wells, Atomic energy and fission. This was done 1400 years ago not in 1863 where progression was made by humans.
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It's a only a dream that the World will have a world currency and a universal language. What Baha'ullah fails is to mention the world about this language and you bahai's are unable to introduce that language to the World. We all know Quran is full of scientific facts and miracles - what has Baha'ullah taught you in the case of science?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
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Equality of men and woman was first brought by Mohammad, infact, he put an end to slavery which Jesus could not in his time. Harmony of science and religion was brought by Mohammad, you should read about the scientific miracles in the Quran. This is a dream by Baha'ullah which will never come true, world currency, universal language, world government, tell me what the new language for the Bahai religion is? Why have you not introduced it yet?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
Bahhahaha U lahahahah could have mentioned not to condemn gays but he decided to copy the true and tried judeochristianislamofascist tradition
condemning gays solely on account of their sexuality:
An "Immorality" "spiritually condemned in the writings of Baha'u'llah", "not a permissible way of life", "A distortion of his or her nature which should be controlled and overcome", An "aberration subject to treatment."
Another reason why this cult is DOA -condemning 10 % of the worlds population.
fctchk 2 years ago
yeah, damn. you'd think if you were just making up a religion you might actually want to get as many people in as possible. have you ever considered there might actually be a reason gay sex is ONE thing all the religions agree on? no, no you didn't. this is going to slow the rate of Baha'i growth immensely, but so will the no drinking policy, it doesn't really bother me that you don't agree. a same sex couple can't marry and no sex before marriage. if you don't like it, that's too bad
naryanr 2 years ago
I listed for you a bunch of things where the Holy Quran talks about... what has Baha'ullah taught you or brought new to the World. Can you list about 20 new scientific facts?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
list 20 facts? heck no. go read them yourself. wiki baha'i prophecy, not that you'll accept anything you read there despite it being fact. nothing you see there will be good enough for you. nothing that you will accept as true because you're hoping against hope it won't be. i don't see a singe scientific fact in the bible yet you accept that as fact. this this isn't what this is about. this is about finding out if God jumps through the hoops you have laid before him.
naryanr 2 years ago
Well because there are no scientific evidence in the book of Bahaullah that is why you are unable to proof those facts. You asked me about Nuclear Energy, I gave you more than 40 different sayings which are present in the Quran and they are all true facts! We Muslims believe in the previous books but Quran states that Bible, Torah and Zaboor has been touched up by men and that is why some of the teachings contradict each other. We believe in no other Prophet after Mohammed.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
THE book ? just the one then? you do realise Baha'u'llah wrote many books? hundreds? 70 times more then the entire Qu'ran. making it more than any other person has ever written? those facts that you saw and i told you you wouldn't believe (and you didn't) they have all been dated before the time of their respective event, i have seen many of them. there is cold hard evidence, those are facts, provable facts, you can go and look at them. so don't just tell be i'm unable to prove them.
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Why did Bahaullah throw out the teachings of Bab as fabrications then he wrote his own version of the book and corrected the mistakes which Bab made to please his followers?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
there weren't mistakes. for example, the Bab forbade his followers to eat onions and garlic because he knew "the one whom God shall make manifest" was in their midst and to breathe foul breath near him would be disrespectful. after he was manifest and revealed himself, that rule was no longer necessary. you're trying to say that by taking over and changing the writings was "to please his followers?" that doesn't make sense my friend. that would annoy them if anything, but they accepted him.
naryanr 2 years ago
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He did it to please his followers because if Bab was inspired by God or the Holy Ghost to write these things, why would Baha'ullah change them? When you say "God shall make manifest", what exactly do you mean?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
i say "One whom God shall make Manifest" simply because that is how the Bab describes Baha'u'llah in the Bayán. you must understand the Bab is like the John the Baptist of the Baha'i Faith, announcing the imminent arrival of Baha'u'llah. many of his writings were simply announcements. Baha'u'llah merely had a different message to bring and point that needed to be brought to the attention of the people in the same way the divine message of Muhammad updated the woefully obsolete biblical texts.
naryanr 2 years ago
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When you say "One whom God shall make manifest", what exactly do you mean? We have manifestation of God in other faiths too, is Baha'ullah the Manifestation of God? Because all the other Prophets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) were not manifestation of God, they were Prophets and never claimed to be Manifestation of God.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
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behruzm 2 years ago
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MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
@behruzm
Well now you know that goats are smarter than you!
:-}
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
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behruzm 2 years ago
it simply means God will reveal them. we believe that Baha'u'llah is a manifestation of God, just as we believe was Jesus and Muhammad. they may not have said they were manifestations of God, but weren't they? did they not make the Glory of God manifest to man? manifestation simply means through them we see God, they make him manifest to us in a way that no person can. Jesus said "he who has seen me hath seen the Father" either that's a very odd way of saying he IS god, or he's a manifestation
naryanr 2 years ago 2
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Matthew 25:34-46). "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. The Bahai belief is the Manifestations of God are the only channel for humanity to know about God, and they act as perfect mirrors reflecting the attributes of God into the physical world. Thus, why did Jesus say that no one is good except God if he is the perfect mirror of God?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
the mirror despite it's perfect smoothness and cleanliness is useless if it's not reflecting the thing that's important to you. it's the image of the object you want to look at that determines how good the mirror is. jesus was the perfect way to see God. without God, Jesus would just be a man as any other. i use the exact same quote with christians who claim that Jesus is God, in his entirety, in the flesh. it doesn't make sense.
naryanr 2 years ago 2
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You did not answer my question properly, do you want to answer me when I have given you quotes?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
sorry, i thought i did answer it. he is the perfect mirror, yes, but it's not his own goodness. it's God's goodness. when we're good, we're all just reflecting God. we're the imperfect mirrors and Jesus is the perfect mirror. but that doesn't change anything. it's still all coming from God, it's still that "no one is good except God alone." i'm sorry if that doesn't make sense.
naryanr 2 years ago 4
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If Jesus was the perfect mirror of God, how can he be tempted by evil, that's according to Bible! Heb. 4:15 tempted in every way—just as we are
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
if he does not give into temptation he remains pure. do we not determine a good person by their ability to resist temptation? however close the knife comes to the mirror, if it doesn't touch it, the mirror remains flawless.
naryanr 2 years ago 3
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How can the perfect mirror of God (in another word,God) be tempted by his own creation? That is hilarious.
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
but he's not just God. if he was just God, he wouldn't be a mirror, he'd just be the light. the mirror is the physical body and mind of Jesus. he walked with us, we could see him. he was a man. men are tempted by the world around them. the difference between Jesus and us was that God light shone through him so strongly that he didn't give into temptation. i'm sure you'll agree that Jesus is not JUST God ?
naryanr 2 years ago
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According to your Baha'i faith he was the "perfect mirror of God" which is not far different from the Christian belief. You still haven't answered my question properly, to how it is possible for the "mirror of God" or in other words "God" to be tempted by his own creation? Jesus never claimed divinity nor we Muslims believe that Jesus was God, manifestation of God or God incarnate. How is it possible for someone to be tempted when according to you he had "God's attributes"? Is God that weak?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
this will be the third time answering this question, so get ready for it.
the "Mirror of God" is NOT "God". Jesus had a body and mind of his own. yes, he had God's attributes, God's SPIRITUAL attributes. God does not have 2 legs and 2 arms and a brain. Jesus is NOT God, they are different. God wasn't giving him a new brain. it was Jesus' physical brain that caused him to be tempted. but God was inpiring him spiritually, causing him to not give into temptation. he made God manifest to us.
naryanr 2 years ago
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Sn4pDr4gon 9 months ago
@Sn4pDr4gon Do you actually want me to answer that?
naryanr 9 months ago
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In video kari az afrade zede dianate elahiye bahai mibashad-------(-dianate bahai payam avare solhe jahani ast) ,( tasaaviye hoghoghe zan va mard) ,( vahdate alame bashariat) ,( vahdate adian) (,talimo tarbiate kodakan ) ( tataboghe din va danesh ), (azadiye zanan)) , (dar kol bahai bodan be manaye dar khedmate hamno koshidan ast, shad bashid.
BEHZAD4319 1 year ago
You were off to a good start with the "just making up a religion" part. That's exactly what all religions are - made up. By men who were products of the time and culture in which they lived. And it shows. All religions are myth based nonsense for nincompoops. And science which is fact, reality and evidence based has debunked their preachments.
Alcohol in moderation has no deleterious effects. In fact a glass of wine with a meal (a hallmark of civilization) can be beneficial.
fctchk 2 years ago
and so the majority of mankind drinks. and now, because of mankind's childlike nature and their inability to determine what's good for them, binge drinking is one of the greatest problems affecting western society today. you tell them not to drink any more, and mankind has a little tantrum and destroys itself some more. science has proven that it can't control humanity alone, as has religion.
naryanr 2 years ago
Is this an advertisement for Pepsi??
it really stands out in the video hahahahahaha
s3125694 2 years ago
haha kheily karetoon jaleb bood. man yek bahai hastam va karetoon ro vaghean doost dashtam. gheir az joke Pepsi baghiash ghashang bood
erfan1359 2 years ago
Love the song! :) got it stuck in my head!
tonysno88 2 years ago
Jaleb bood.
nazi971640 2 years ago
bah ke che ziba bood
asheghabadi 2 years ago
jaleb
asheghabadi 2 years ago
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Baha'i is a religion that was made by the Israeli to divert the Muslims from Islam. It's a religion that believes in Mohammed (SWT) but they don't follow his teaching or the Quran. If you were to compare Baha'i to Judaism, they are very close because a lot of the teachings in the Baha'i religion was copied from Torah!
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
do you have an ounce of proof for your claim that the faith was created by the israelis?
MrJohn424242 2 years ago 2
Have you studied Torah, and Quran. Just to make it easier for you Quran is taken from Quran. It`s all bull shit my friend. Go save yourself and study the history. Since you believe in Quran, compare torah and Quran side by side. Mohammad is not a prophet and as the matter of fact there is no God God didn`t create mankind, Man-Kind created God so, fuck all the prophets Hint: "Learn how to be human and respect Humanity"
fkislamcmhmd 2 years ago
I have studied Quran, Bible and Torah and there isn't a verse that is copied from either Bible or Torah, If you claim otherwise, then provide me the verses.
Don't say that there is no God because you believe in Baha'ullah, he is your false God. He is the one who claims to be the God & Prophet of every religion on this Earth. Surprisingly, your God Baha'ullah has Mohammad's name in your holy book, thus, how can he be fake?
MrHolyGoat 2 years ago
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Bahai1844 2 years ago
Dear Ormon,
You are assuming that I have inherited this religion. I have not; I have discovered it. Unlike other divine institutions, this one discourages you from imitation, and encourages you for the "independent investigation of truth".
Long Live Freedom of Thought, whether aithiest or God Loving.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 5
To all my spiritual brothers and sisters:
I love you all, despite our idealogical differences. Baha u llah has said that "the purpose of religion should be to foster love in our hearts. If it causes division, we will be better off without it". So dear Ormon, you say no to what you don't believe; I'll say yes to what I believe. If this causes friction in your heart, that is very sad. Some Anti religious crusaders can be quite ruthless. I hope you are not one of them.
Love to Humanity
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 6
And yet More for Valerie Khanom:
What's in it for the Israelis? I don't know. You tell me. Come out with your researched facts, please. Give me well-established and scientific document with statistics and numbers. No blurting outs, like "having a new religion in my dining room".
And FYI, not ONE dollar of the $ spent on Baha'i gardens was paid by anyone but members of the Baha'i Faith. Baha'is don't take donations from anyone who is NOT a Baha'i. Now that is a scientic fact.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 3
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Bahaullah's own brother tried to kill him. If bahaullah was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
Religion is the source to most of humanity's DIVISIONS.
Wage peace...
Say no to religion, Please
ormonclark 2 years ago
More to Valerie Khanom,
You care about Palestian cause, don't you? So do I. Have you ever sponsored a Palestian child and paid for his education? If you have, my hats off to you!! If not, please don't emulate what you hear and blurt it out, just because it feels good.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 2
Continuing with Valerie Khanom,
What do you want Israelis to do with Baha'i monuments? Would you be relieved if they bomb those monuments, as they have used their army to ruthlessly do so thru-out the middle-east conflict? Will you then take a sigh of relief and find your world put in a safe box?
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 2
Valerie Khanom,
I don't know where you get your information from. Israel has never attempted to destroy any historical monuments; whether Moslem, or Baha'i or Christian. Please don't mix up their treatment of Palestinians with an intention to destroy a historical holy place like Al-Aghsa. Do you really think if Israelis wanted to destroy that monumnet they would hesitate to do so? I don't think so. It is the barbaric Afghani Taleban who destroyed the statues of Buda.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago
fuck you mother fucker!!! go to hell!!!
andrew90212 2 years ago
ozer to bekhahi is right BUT ozrash to bekhahi= soal pich kardan or morde parsporsi gharar dadan
you had to say pozesh to bekkhahi
toghi99 2 years ago
Jesus has the answer for you, "...seeing they see not;
and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matt 13:13)
"He cometh with clouds" is a reference to this problem, too.
Indeed, He comes again in the clouds: preconceptions and misconceptions -
veils that interpose themselves preventing recognition and acceptance.
The Jews were in possession of the Book when they denied Jesus. There were certain prophecies they did not feel Jesus fulfilled... such grievous clouds!
SirBlois 2 years ago
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SirBlois 2 years ago
either you need help, or you have a serious dis functional brain
samira1334 2 years ago 2
besiar aali bood :)
ranginNama 2 years ago
great job guys :-) Allah'u'abha!
discodeeba 2 years ago
As there are people there different tastes. This video has its charm and I like it. Thank you to those who sincerely are trying to put forth the Baha'i ideals in a different format to appeal to the musically minded. Dast Mariza. keep up the good work. looking forward to the next video
sorajism 3 years ago
derka derka mohummed jihad bukalah muhummed jihad sherpa sherpa
larig355 3 years ago
bahal bood. een agahie pepsi-e?
narrrrd 3 years ago
kheyli video bamazeyi boood.......age you pay attention mibinim ke bahai ha hame az khobi o safa o injor chiza harf mizanan...be nazar nemiyad chizi motazad be bahaiyat gofte shode bashe......bi ehterami ham nashode, sometimes it's good to have fun too.....good job lol
ghateljoon 3 years ago
haha, i love this video and its words! thanks for uploading it.
adibreyhani 3 years ago
this was great ,, make the faith fun
marmary81 3 years ago 4
Bahai1844 how in the world does this silly video "inspire steadfastness" for crying out loud? and how does this Persian video in Persian based on a Persian song bring the Baha'i faith into the mainstream....? mainstream what? the world is falling apart, and if the Peaceful Baha'i faith has peace to offer, then bahais must do way more to spread their message than this sort of thing...
babooli 3 years ago
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Religion is the source to most of humanity's DIVISIONS.
Wage peace...
Say no to religion, Please
ormonclark 3 years ago
To OrmonClark:
Please get rid of that retoric. It is getting kind of boring. Religion, in the hand of greedy manipulators, may have been at times a sourse of division.
But there has been horrible divisions made by Communists, by secular politicians, by Freedom Fighters, by those who have fought against injustices, etc. etc. Religion just gets a bad rap.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago 2
I'm not claiming corrupt governments such as China's communist regime are the answer.Religion gets a bad rap because history shows that it has been more of a source of division than a source of unity. Bahaullah's brother tried to kill him. If he was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
ormonclark 2 years ago
Allah-u-Abha! Ali bood, daste shoma dard nakone! Keep up the great work, this makes the Baha'i Faith more mainstream and inspires steadfastness, very unique. Keep up the creativity: this is wonderful. Ya Baha'u'l-Abha!
Bahai1844 3 years ago 3
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Bahai'ullah = ZIONIST free mason from 19th century
Bahai Temple = Haifa, Israel
Bahai faith = hatred & zionism gift wrapped in a peace sign
valerienanh 3 years ago
Baha'i's have been in Haifa 80 YEARS before the modern Israeli State. Thats even before the first aliyas.
The Baha'i World Centre, Shrine, was being built in Haifa BEFORE the modern Israel. All administrative activities were being done out of Haifa BEFORE even the notion of a modern Israeli state was being floated.
It's people like you who dont spend even 2 minutes doing your own research, and just repeat crazy fringe conspiracy theories created BY bigots, FOR bigots, to perpetuate bigotry.
KMehrabi 2 years ago 2
1. I understand that they have been in Hayfa before the creation of the state of israel. But what surprises me is that israel has not done anything to shut down the Bahai Temple, but rather they financially support the Bahais. Israel obviously has has motives for their support of Bahais....NOW...this is not hard evidence, but it does throw up a RED FLAG
2. Bahai objectives fall exactly in line with New World Order- another red flag
3. Freemason symbolism in Bahai temple
& MANY more-
valerienanh 2 years ago
Dear valerienanh, if you speak persian please watch watch?v=8MeHpUXjBxY. It answers #1.
#2 please see Bahai definttion of new world order in wikipedia. There is really nothing wrong with the "term" as we have seen result of 'current/old world order'. #3 Bahai temples are 9 sided to represent 9 major religns. Symbols on temple are just symbols of major religns.
Please do bit of investigations of your own and dont rely on others (including me) to do your work (said with due respect)
ranginNama 2 years ago
1) Israel does NOT financially support Baha'i's. That is a lie created by bigots. The Baha'i Administration in Israel is supported 100% by Baha'i's around the world. Israel has absolutely no reason to shut down anything Baha'i in Israel, are you crazy? Baha'i's have always been neutral.
2) What specific "new world order" conspiracy are you thinking of
3) There is NO freemason symbol on any Baha'i temple
You are the perfect example of bigotry I'm talking about. Do your own research.
KMehrabi 2 years ago 2
To Valerie Khanom:
Red Flag? Moslems have kept their most important holy site, after Mecca, in Israel. That is the Mosque of Al-Aghsa in Jeruselum. How is it that Moslems are not looked with suspicion? Please use logic and knwoledge next time, when you post your paranoid comments. Of course, not ot mention that Christians also have their holiest place, birthsite of Christ in Israel. Are they being paid by the Israelis? Lets get over paranioa promoted by Akhunds and look at fact.
ForOurSoul 2 years ago
The important difference that you don't seem to notice is that "israel" intends to & has been making a concerted effort to destroy Al-Aqsa & any remnants of Palestine. Where as the "New Bahai" movement was welcomed with open arms. If I wanted to form a new religion & center it in your living room, would you accept? OF COURSE NOT!!
The Red Flag is "israel's" warm welcoming & ACCEPTANCE. There must be some sort of "gain" for israel... no? Nothing is free- especially not "Holy Land"
valerienanh 2 years ago
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Bahaullah's own brother tried to kill him. If bahaullah was unable to bring peace to his own family, how can he bring peace to the world. By the way, don't get so exited about your "faith". if you were born in a different part of the world, you would be blowing a different horn. You too, inherited religion.
ormonclark 2 years ago
Dear Ormon:
There were many in Bahá'u'lláh's family who turned against Him, because of their ephemeral pursuits. This is not a rare phenomenon in religious history. For example, in Islam, Muhammad's third wife Aisha raised an entire army against Imam 'Ali, and wanted Him and His followers killed. So no human being is exempt from tests. Bahá'u'lláh has laid the perfect foundation for world unity, but it is up to human beings whether or not they want to follow this perfect and Divine System.
Bahai1844 2 years ago 7
i love the video :) and i dont think any bahais should take offense to this, have a sense of humor people
psaki13 3 years ago 9
ای والله باحال بود
koroschDD 3 years ago 2
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CandlesOfUnity 3 years ago
vaaaaaaay ,man ke daram zamino gaz mizanam az khande,khili khoda boooooood.
niakan 3 years ago
p.s it was very original - thank you
rosegarden99 3 years ago
This would have been suitable at a local community gathering- but not to be posted on youtube.
rosegarden99 3 years ago 5
If you felt the video was humours and enjoyed it, wonderful. Otherwise, remember Abdu'l-Baha's admonistion "Night and day endeavor to attain perfect harmony; be thoughtful concerning your own spiritual developments and close your eyes to the shortcomings of one another.
manijehrafraf 3 years ago
Alaan keh Doustan-e Bahá'i dar Iran, dar zendaan yaa dar naaraahati-ye sakht hastand, dar vaghti keh Gabrestaan-e baha'i ra dar shahr-ha-ye mokhtalef kharaab mikonand, manzel va machin-e Ahebaa raa atash mizanand, moghe-yeh in jour shoukhi-haa (bazi ha migouyand "maskhareh") nist ! Agar maskhareh nist, cheh lozoumi beh gozashtan-e Kolah-gis (perruque) boud !? In jour shoukhi-haa raa mishavad 50 saal-e digar kard, na haalaa ! Eraadat-mand, R. M.
Boujouli 3 years ago
Mr. Mansour & Shahram SHAME ON YOU BOTH! YOU MADE ME LAUGH SOOOO MUCH! How dare you do such a wonderful act.
As a Baha'i youth, I am proud to see that people like you two are helping us develop our Baha'i culture and identity. Please keep it up... I am looking forward to a sequel.
After reviewing the comments to this video I will make an effort to have our next's children class deepening theme on the virtue of "Humor"
Sorooshb 3 years ago 2
To Kmehrabi: Don't make assumption that one is not aware of "Bahai Principles". You seem upset and defensive And just knowing a few facts about a fith will not make me a good Bahai. It is up to you to define tolerance. And, Yes look it up Tolerance is in the faith, if you can't ask someone who knows. That is why I became Bahai in the 1st place. I saw the difference in the principles of the Bahai faith copared to Islam, and that was attractive to me. Maybe that is why I can tolerate this.
sportster2006 3 years ago
come on guys.Have a sense of humor. He is not making fun of Bahai faith, nor is he promoting or teaching anything about it. they are Just trying to be funny .i guess we all can use a giggle here and there. I dont think anyone should get offended. I am a Bahai and I was not offended.
kamykam2 3 years ago
nice,I laughed a lot and please look it just as humor aportation for the community and relax it's not a teaching project!
tutiloco9 3 years ago
Get a life!
farzinphotography 3 years ago 6
ye nooshabe ham vase khodetoon vaa konin.
heife noon
omid2002omid 3 years ago
are chon migoftan pepsio bahaia vared mikonan :))
mehrann 3 years ago
They even have a Pepsi can in front of them!;)
4uNoSoup 3 years ago
I am not certain about the motives of the producer of this film. By no means can I call it an artistic performance nor the best introduction to the teaching of the Bahai faith. The producer seems to be very out of touch with good and meaningful arts. The lyrics seem to be picked very randomly with minimum thought given to quality. I would rate this as an extremely poor attempt on any unknown motive that the producer might have had.
amirpars 3 years ago 5
this video caused me to laugh, therefore " baese sorure ahebbast"
john lennon once said" its silly to be bitter"
faran1963 3 years ago 5
Yes, Lennon said "its silly to be bitter .perhaps this is good advice for Mr Taeed's deep seated bittreness towards those who have respect for Bahai standards. Mr Taeed's cheesy portrayal is clearly a "bitter" stab related to his own experience as a frustrated non conformist, in need of ego pleasing attention.
Its a shameful waste of time for someone as educated and resourceful as Mansour; a sad disappointment for those who have known him since his youth.
yes, "its silly to be bitter"
WRGS69 3 years ago