@sleepcity: 'sheer nonsense' is your opinion. @unsernameavailable: When physical signs and symptoms improve that is not a placebo effect. 'People with more money than sense'? No need to sound rude and arrogant just because someone doesn't share your belief. How much do drugs cost people with no health car plan? And if someone does simply feel better and it is in fact a placebo effect at least they have no side effects to deal with opening up another can of worms to deal with.
@uberhikari I would have said: "Congrats. You have spotted that the water is not at absolute zero." Do these idiots actually think that when we talk about "energy", that we actually mean "magic". Now if you'll excuse me, I need to add energy to my dinner.
@ Sleepcity: 'well established methods for determining the efficacy of a drug'. Homeopathy is not a drug. You've just made my point. You can't compare apples to oranges my friend. We're going to just have to agree to disagree. What I don't understand is why the scientific community views homeopathy as such a threat. Let it be complimentary to one's personal health regime. I know it works. I don't need the scientific community to tell me it doesn't. Respect choice.
We're going to just have to agree to disagree. What I don't understand is why the scientific community views creationism as such a threat. Let it be complimentary to one's science in the classroom. I know it's true. I don't need the evidence. Teach the controversy.
The scientific community simply hasn't come up with a tool to their liking to measure it yet. People who know it works for them don't need to wait for this.
@corningstonev The scientific community has well-established methods for determining the efficacy of a drug (they're called randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled trials). To suggest that the scientific community "hasn't come up with a tool...to measure it" is sheer nonsense. Fortunately for science, efficacy isn't determined by "people who know it works for them." Just like homeopathy, THAT isn't science.
@corningstonev I think you'll find that in science, we do know how it makes people feel better - it's called the placebo effect. This is why it makes people with more money than sense and a slight case of feeling off, 'recover'. Try treating cancer with homeopathy.
So she doesn't need science? And, she won't say what it would take to change her mind about homeopathy. She also seems to think that the energy wibble is actually an *explanation* -- I know what an explanation actually looks like, and that isn't it. And THIS is why homeopathy doesn't count as evidence-based medicine.
should read 'health care plan'
corningstonev 1 month ago
@sleepcity: 'sheer nonsense' is your opinion. @unsernameavailable: When physical signs and symptoms improve that is not a placebo effect. 'People with more money than sense'? No need to sound rude and arrogant just because someone doesn't share your belief. How much do drugs cost people with no health car plan? And if someone does simply feel better and it is in fact a placebo effect at least they have no side effects to deal with opening up another can of worms to deal with.
corningstonev 1 month ago
Did she just say, "The presence of the energy is in the water"? I would have laughed her off the air.
uberhikari 4 months ago
@uberhikari I would have said: "Congrats. You have spotted that the water is not at absolute zero." Do these idiots actually think that when we talk about "energy", that we actually mean "magic". Now if you'll excuse me, I need to add energy to my dinner.
usernameavilable 1 month ago
@ Sleepcity: 'well established methods for determining the efficacy of a drug'. Homeopathy is not a drug. You've just made my point. You can't compare apples to oranges my friend. We're going to just have to agree to disagree. What I don't understand is why the scientific community views homeopathy as such a threat. Let it be complimentary to one's personal health regime. I know it works. I don't need the scientific community to tell me it doesn't. Respect choice.
corningstonev 5 months ago
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@corningstonev let me paraphrase you:
We're going to just have to agree to disagree. What I don't understand is why the scientific community views creationism as such a threat. Let it be complimentary to one's science in the classroom. I know it's true. I don't need the evidence. Teach the controversy.
usernameavilable 1 month ago
What gives people the impression that homeopathy deserves to be called natural?
erlenmayr 6 months ago
The scientific community simply hasn't come up with a tool to their liking to measure it yet. People who know it works for them don't need to wait for this.
corningstonev 9 months ago
@corningstonev The scientific community has well-established methods for determining the efficacy of a drug (they're called randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled trials). To suggest that the scientific community "hasn't come up with a tool...to measure it" is sheer nonsense. Fortunately for science, efficacy isn't determined by "people who know it works for them." Just like homeopathy, THAT isn't science.
sleepcity 6 months ago
@corningstonev I think you'll find that in science, we do know how it makes people feel better - it's called the placebo effect. This is why it makes people with more money than sense and a slight case of feeling off, 'recover'. Try treating cancer with homeopathy.
usernameavilable 1 month ago
So she doesn't need science? And, she won't say what it would take to change her mind about homeopathy. She also seems to think that the energy wibble is actually an *explanation* -- I know what an explanation actually looks like, and that isn't it. And THIS is why homeopathy doesn't count as evidence-based medicine.
thethinkingcat 1 year ago