@FinaleGoofups All I can say is you're overrating "people like Steve Reich" - they're not as powerful as you like to think they are. An equally or more likely reason for orchestras going bankrupt is that nobody gives a shit about music (or any art for that matter) anymore, unless it's got an electronic beat and a hot chick with a high-pitched voice, and no one will fund anything that doesn't generate a massive amount of money overnight. Welcome to the 21st century.
@NitramZiarreh Postmodernists are the most to blame. But, television didn't help as the people who were taught utter nihilism by postmodernists went on to be the people creating TV shows.
@FinaleGoofups Oh my... I thought I'd heard it all, but "postmodernism is to blame" is new to me. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from and how old are you?
This is (not surprisingly) quite beautiful. Very related but other, anyone not yet aware of David Lang might want to listen to the chamber work "Child" and his "Little Match Girl Passion."
@amerattila certainly more precious. those tenors are just amazing
but i dont like to listen to proverb regularly. i would probably much rather listen to daniel variations or you are variations or desert music or something
@amistrymister i saw your uploads, really appreciate them. I was at the at the Palace of Arts (Budapest) on the premiere of the Mallet Quartet and the hungarian premiere of the Daniel Variations, it was unforgettable...Mr Reich was there, too.. :-)
@amerattila you're very lucky. mallet quartet is a great piece; some really catchy melodies up in there (never thought id say that about reich; usually its rhythms). Daniel Variations is slowly moving into the favourites list, and I think that Double Sextet may well be taking the top spot which Music for 18 previously had for me.
I've seen Reich play Music for 18, Sextet, Clapping music and electric counterpoint (well he was there for that) I've also seen City life live. :)
@amistrymister I couldn't believe it, I've been going through this guy's stuff on youtube, and this one isn't uncontrollably irritating. I think I even heard a resolution or two. Though, I'll admit, I can't stand to listen to more than 3 minutes of it.
@MadMagzzz Yeah, general, non-specific pseudo-intelligent jargon like "you hear, not listen" may work on selling shit to snooty, pretentious bankers, but it doesn't work on people who have spent their life studying art. It's ok, I'll assume you wrote that because you don't really write, you just talk.
@mel956 No, he accused me of not listening to it. It was a pathetic attempt to state that there is something deeper to be heard if I sit there and assault my ears with this nonsense for hours on end. The composer is incompetent, and you are a fool.
@FinaleGoofups I can't say I'm a fan of Reich's work, but if you feel so "uncontrollably irritated" by it, that's not a manifestation of a quality inherent to the music itself, but rather of your own cognitive limitations. Try to draw a line between these things. I've heard other people say exactly the same about musics as diverse as Stravinsky, Xenakis, Wagner, Bartók, and Balinese gamelan.
@NitramZiarreh No, it really is a quality of the music. It has nothing to do with "cognitive limitations," whatever that means. Stravinsky, Wagner and Bartok have structure and dynamics and melody. If you truly believe that the fact that you don't like Reich is because of our "cognitive limitation," I'd like to sell you and all Reich's fans tickets to come listen to a jet turbine. If you don't think it's good music because it's not good music, I'll just say you're "limited."
@FinaleGoofups I was actually going to reply to your (lack of) arguments, but since you admitted yourself you're just trolling, I'm happy with just telling you to fuck off and going back to work.
@NitramZiarreh Burden of proof that it is good music is on the person who asserts it is, which it isn't, no matter how many white collar parties you go to.
@FinaleGoofups Seeing as 261 users liked it, I'd say the "burden of proof" is on the 6 who disliked it. It may be as fucked up as your own logic, but that's how democracy works.
@FinaleGoofups There is a structure - as I said before, the fact that YOU cannot perceive is only indicative of your own limitations. There is also melody and harmony, but even if there wasn't, those two factors have ceased being univocal "sine qua non" conditions for defining music at least 100 years ago. That only shows that Reich is a relatively "traditional" composer, but nothing besides that. So sorry, but your "reasons" are only "reasonable" according to your own parameters.
@NitramZiarreh Sorry, I hadn't actually listened to this piece since I first commented a month ago, this isn't four organs which is utter shit. Yeah, it's got a little of those.
wow, I'ts really nice to see that I've introduced something new to you. I will upload more Reich soon, however there's plenty of releases from him, he's the most famous american composer of the 20th century...
endless beautyful agony
youfilin 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
never say something until you have to say something
jamant1000 1 week ago
moon
ImTheCaio 1 week ago
In fact, the composition of Proverb is quite close to that of the magnificent Tehillim by Reich.
arcanedixsept 2 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups All I can say is you're overrating "people like Steve Reich" - they're not as powerful as you like to think they are. An equally or more likely reason for orchestras going bankrupt is that nobody gives a shit about music (or any art for that matter) anymore, unless it's got an electronic beat and a hot chick with a high-pitched voice, and no one will fund anything that doesn't generate a massive amount of money overnight. Welcome to the 21st century.
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago
@NitramZiarreh Postmodernists are the most to blame. But, television didn't help as the people who were taught utter nihilism by postmodernists went on to be the people creating TV shows.
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups Oh my... I thought I'd heard it all, but "postmodernism is to blame" is new to me. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from and how old are you?
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups why are you here then smartypants? get a life
amerattila 3 weeks ago
@amerattila I have a life, in involves trolling postmodernist compositions prior to heading to class.
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups haha actually you are funny :) made me laugh
amerattila 3 weeks ago
PROVERB NUN SUPPLEX
whotaughtyou 2 months ago
)))*!*(((
VjArkiv 2 months ago
magnifique vraiment magnifique
clemdor2703 2 months ago 2
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This is (not surprisingly) quite beautiful. Very related but other, anyone not yet aware of David Lang might want to listen to the chamber work "Child" and his "Little Match Girl Passion."
MuseDuCafe 3 months ago
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MuseDuCafe 3 months ago
imadom....koszi
within2 3 months ago 2
does anybody know what picture this is of? a planet? a moon?
YUZO2kxx 3 months ago
@YUZO2kxx yes, it is Enceladus, one of Saturn's moons. /wiki/Enceladus
amerattila 3 months ago 5
@amerattila thank you my friend!
YUZO2kxx 3 months ago
vive la france
lapinou2133 4 months ago
I've listened to this for a few hours already..! It's so beautiful.
gurreu 4 months ago
@14.10 : the worse part at all :) !
Bedrich94 5 months ago 2
my god this is divine
DIEZAUBERFLOTEMENSCH 5 months ago
I´ve been waiting a lifetime to listen something like this.Universe bless Steve Reich.Thanks for uploading this,friend.
Kuhrvenal 5 months ago 5
@Kuhrvenal you're welcome :))
amerattila 3 months ago
Capolavoro!!! Grazie Steve!
pierospirit 7 months ago
I have to say, somehow, that picture fits perfectly.
Brilliant piece. Archetypal to Reich, yet also unique. Kind of reminds me of Dead Can Dance somehow.
Hyardacil 11 months ago 3
This is so atypical of Reich, though. He never really writes like this. This is a one in a million piece.
amistrymister 1 year ago 5
@amistrymister that makes it more precious, don't you think?
amerattila 1 year ago
@amerattila certainly more precious. those tenors are just amazing
but i dont like to listen to proverb regularly. i would probably much rather listen to daniel variations or you are variations or desert music or something
amistrymister 1 year ago
@amistrymister i saw your uploads, really appreciate them. I was at the at the Palace of Arts (Budapest) on the premiere of the Mallet Quartet and the hungarian premiere of the Daniel Variations, it was unforgettable...Mr Reich was there, too.. :-)
amerattila 1 year ago
@amerattila you're very lucky. mallet quartet is a great piece; some really catchy melodies up in there (never thought id say that about reich; usually its rhythms). Daniel Variations is slowly moving into the favourites list, and I think that Double Sextet may well be taking the top spot which Music for 18 previously had for me.
I've seen Reich play Music for 18, Sextet, Clapping music and electric counterpoint (well he was there for that) I've also seen City life live. :)
I do love Reich.
amistrymister 1 year ago
@amistrymister ...an amazing piece, but not so atypical, I think. Just another facet of Reich's genius. The pieces just fit together so well.
chrisjpxxx01 1 year ago
@amistrymister I couldn't believe it, I've been going through this guy's stuff on youtube, and this one isn't uncontrollably irritating. I think I even heard a resolution or two. Though, I'll admit, I can't stand to listen to more than 3 minutes of it.
FinaleGoofups 2 months ago
@FinaleGoofups It's probably because you don't really listen, you just hear.
MadMagzzz 1 month ago
@MadMagzzz Yeah, general, non-specific pseudo-intelligent jargon like "you hear, not listen" may work on selling shit to snooty, pretentious bankers, but it doesn't work on people who have spent their life studying art. It's ok, I'll assume you wrote that because you don't really write, you just talk.
LeftBehindForDead 1 month ago
@LeftBehindForDead theres a difference between hearing and listening. madmagzz simply pointed that out.
mel956 3 weeks ago
@mel956 No, he accused me of not listening to it. It was a pathetic attempt to state that there is something deeper to be heard if I sit there and assault my ears with this nonsense for hours on end. The composer is incompetent, and you are a fool.
LeftBehindForDead 3 weeks ago
@LeftBehindForDead ignorance is bliss
amerattila 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups I can't say I'm a fan of Reich's work, but if you feel so "uncontrollably irritated" by it, that's not a manifestation of a quality inherent to the music itself, but rather of your own cognitive limitations. Try to draw a line between these things. I've heard other people say exactly the same about musics as diverse as Stravinsky, Xenakis, Wagner, Bartók, and Balinese gamelan.
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago 2
@NitramZiarreh No, it really is a quality of the music. It has nothing to do with "cognitive limitations," whatever that means. Stravinsky, Wagner and Bartok have structure and dynamics and melody. If you truly believe that the fact that you don't like Reich is because of our "cognitive limitation," I'd like to sell you and all Reich's fans tickets to come listen to a jet turbine. If you don't think it's good music because it's not good music, I'll just say you're "limited."
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago 2
@FinaleGoofups I was actually going to reply to your (lack of) arguments, but since you admitted yourself you're just trolling, I'm happy with just telling you to fuck off and going back to work.
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago
@NitramZiarreh Burden of proof that it is good music is on the person who asserts it is, which it isn't, no matter how many white collar parties you go to.
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups Seeing as 261 users liked it, I'd say the "burden of proof" is on the 6 who disliked it. It may be as fucked up as your own logic, but that's how democracy works.
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago
@NitramZiarreh I already gave reasons: no structure, no melody, little dynamics, little harmony. It's not music, it's a bunch of repetitive noises.
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago
@FinaleGoofups There is a structure - as I said before, the fact that YOU cannot perceive is only indicative of your own limitations. There is also melody and harmony, but even if there wasn't, those two factors have ceased being univocal "sine qua non" conditions for defining music at least 100 years ago. That only shows that Reich is a relatively "traditional" composer, but nothing besides that. So sorry, but your "reasons" are only "reasonable" according to your own parameters.
NitramZiarreh 3 weeks ago
@NitramZiarreh Sorry, I hadn't actually listened to this piece since I first commented a month ago, this isn't four organs which is utter shit. Yeah, it's got a little of those.
FinaleGoofups 3 weeks ago
wow, I'ts really nice to see that I've introduced something new to you. I will upload more Reich soon, however there's plenty of releases from him, he's the most famous american composer of the 20th century...
amerattila 1 year ago
Beautiful.
GunciBunci 1 year ago
this has a big 'WOW'-effect! modern léonin/pérotin?! :D
thx&greeeZz
charlesRim 1 year ago
simple, elegant, beautiful
DeRex9 1 year ago
Beautiful piece!
Less, is more....
TheSilverDubber 1 year ago
@TheSilverDubber I'm glad you like it. Reich is one of the greatest of our time.
amerattila 1 year ago