I wanted to let everyone know this set up is about to become reality. Tom Cole at Cadiz Gun Works has designed a LRBHO that requires no mods to the magazines. They will be available soon. I am working with him so a bolt release wil lbe available for it also. Looks like it will all soon be a reality!
Nice Saiga, Im curious what is the bolt hold open you said you had where to get it? and the mag release button? I have a magwell i am going to install. But i like how you have yours set up. thanks
The saiga 12 is perfectly legal. I do not know what in the hell what you are talking about. I purchased my saiga 12 at my local gun shop. They did require a background check from me. The saiag 12 is right under the aa12. I call the saiga 12 the anit home invasion shotgun. If thieves ever broke into my house, I would not hesitate to shoot!!! I love my saiga 12!!!
@gruntspy44 if your buying firearms equipment you aren't willing to drop on the ground if need be... ESPECIALLY a magazine.... DON'T BUY IT! for firearms use.... (now if your buying like Hitlers ppk.... yeah i can understand<.<) not to mention... its an ak variant... without dirt on it it wouldn't run!
Hey Mike, I got your drum and love it (check out my vids) but I have been checking your site for the release of these items, I take it they will not be in the market anytime soon?
Yes, they are legal, in most states. Many gun shops have them in stock now and then, but the demand is very high right now. Try your local shops and gun shows.
If you have to ask, then run away in panic bc they are not legal and no you can't get them ordered at your local gun shop. You can go see the local gang who will be happy to provide one for you...at the right price. XD
Liberal media pats themselves on the back for another brain washed fool, YOU! I thought jedi's where wise... Maybe you should research ours and your rights more before you speak, may do you some good! Come back from the dark side dummy.
the recoil is alot more managable than you might think. being basically built off an AK, it has a nice recoil spring built in that eats up much of the kick. much much softer to shoot than your standard pump shotgun
You sure about that. From what I've seen the Vepr doesn't have a bolt release to go with the lrbho. I don't believe it has an extended mag release. And the mags don't drop free and are removed buy hand.
H8 to say it I would love to have a Vepr 12...but to my knowledge there is no way to get one into the US. Great mods though, you need to post a new thread for them on Saiga-12 Forum (assuming that you haven't already done so). Great job Mike, when are they coming to the marketplace?
try getting one here then. saiga is izhmash made in russia vepr is Molot made in russia. by the time we take our saigas and modify them, they are far superior to both makes as they have been polished, ported and completely gone over. A tromix would wipe the floor with up against both saiga and vepr russian military issue shotguns.
Ordered your 20rd drum a while ago. I didnt know there were mods like that for a Saiga! That has to be the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. I think ill be buying another soon to tinker with. Thanks again!
The one in this video won't. I have a magwell designed that will work with drums and sticks though. The stick only version will hopefully start shipping in early Spring. The version for both will be a little later than that.
Video games don't feature this gun much anymore because it is too "cheap", as in it blows everything else away to the point of being unfair. Would this be a good gun or a bit excessive for protection, say in the house or a 24 hour convenience store?
In a self defense scenario there is no such thing as excessive when you survival is at stake. In a close quarter situation there isn't another gun (available) that I would want to have in my hands. The only gun (not available) that I think I would choose over it would be the AA-12.
you like the aa12? i listened to it on full auto and then listened to a Saiga and the Saiga sounded a lot faster. The rail system for the magazine on the aa12 looks clumsy and the Saiga looks like you could carry it easier.
True, but comparing muzzle jump, the aa12 looks a little more controllable. The aa12 also operates from an open bolt, which is probably safer. IMHO, plastic shells sitting in a hot chamber face a high cook-off risk (or at least plastic-molten-slag-in-chamber risk).
That said, VERY nice saiga. How much did it run you complete with all accessories/mods?
I think the Chrysler Corporation made them one year, lol. The fact that I said stratus instead of strauss was pointed out to me after the fact. What can I say, I'm a dumbass!
Can't wait till I get orders out of Cali! Gotta get back to NC, home of Camp Lejune, and a gun friendly state. When will any of this be available, and for how much, where?
Man, you have to get out of there. Your behind enemy lines. I am hoping I'll have the stuff ready by late winter, early spring. Don't have a set price but it will be very reasonable. Available nation wide basically.
Awesome. I'm here learning Arabic (SSGT/USMC). I will graduate on Sept 11, 2008 ironically. The Saiga-12 is my white unicorn of ass kickery! Got a complete tool box except for .50bmg anti-matterial capability.... Want a Saiga because 12ga slugs at that rate are pretty much anti-everything. Love my 870, but nothing compares. Thanks for the info, and I'll pass it on to all my other gun happy friends
I wanted to let everyone know this set up is about to become reality. Tom Cole at Cadiz Gun Works has designed a LRBHO that requires no mods to the magazines. They will be available soon. I am working with him so a bolt release wil lbe available for it also. Looks like it will all soon be a reality!
hellyeahdrum 1 year ago 4
@upcomming jedi i just bought one at the gun store. genius
rtgunn33 1 year ago
Nice Saiga, Im curious what is the bolt hold open you said you had where to get it? and the mag release button? I have a magwell i am going to install. But i like how you have yours set up. thanks
mastertim52 1 year ago
I believe these guns (or a manufacturer market variant on it) are even legal here in the UK.
wikichris 1 year ago
If I joined the army and I was deployed to iraq, this shotgun would be my weapon of choice!!!
worldchampion1986 1 year ago
another liberal gets owned..
Hey hellyeahdrum how are the drum mags coming along i preordered 3 and cant wait to go rattle out some 12ga fun..
thenomadrhodes 1 year ago
The saiga 12 is perfectly legal. I do not know what in the hell what you are talking about. I purchased my saiga 12 at my local gun shop. They did require a background check from me. The saiag 12 is right under the aa12. I call the saiga 12 the anit home invasion shotgun. If thieves ever broke into my house, I would not hesitate to shoot!!! I love my saiga 12!!!
undisputedchamp1986 1 year ago
This guy is ready for zombies.
Voidere08 2 years ago
impressive add ons.
irishmankentuckian 2 years ago
Guys you are kicking ass with your products, hope that one comes out SOON!
Despierto 2 years ago
neat but dumb to let those fucking expensive ass mags hit the ground...wtf man
gruntspy44 2 years ago
if they are worth a shit as combat ready magazines they can handle being dropped on the ground
ScottSchneider 2 years ago
@gruntspy44 if your buying firearms equipment you aren't willing to drop on the ground if need be... ESPECIALLY a magazine.... DON'T BUY IT! for firearms use.... (now if your buying like Hitlers ppk.... yeah i can understand<.<) not to mention... its an ak variant... without dirt on it it wouldn't run!
vampire847 1 year ago
A Saiga 12 can go from $500 to $800 depending on who you purchase it from. I got my Saiga 12 for $730.
dumazz86 2 years ago
I want your mods... tell me you have them for sale! I will gladly pay for plans and fabricate them myself.
Heathh49008 2 years ago
What inch barrel ?
CRC1770 2 years ago
That bitch is a beast !!!!
BrokenTengu99 2 years ago
how much do saiga 12 go for ?!?!
e34krazy 2 years ago
they used to be 200.. now there 500-600.
IndIka024 2 years ago
paid $525 for mine at a local gunshow last weekend. I'll probably sink about that much more into it in mods.
chevlumina 2 years ago
Hey Mike, I got your drum and love it (check out my vids) but I have been checking your site for the release of these items, I take it they will not be in the market anytime soon?
wpeniche 2 years ago
they cost around 680 in las vegas not bad but the 20 round drum is like 250..
luivillslugger 2 years ago
@luivillslugger They have them on pre-order from the mdarms site for $100
Toolofdeath 1 year ago
i would call it----Zombie crusher
iComment17 2 years ago
i need that weapon
TheChoppedLIVER 2 years ago
do you need milatary or law enforcment traning to get it
Superninjasam 2 years ago
No, just go to the gun store and buy it!
Pepsifx357 2 years ago
Nice,the bolt release is a great addition
XxILoveMyAK47xX 2 years ago
that is some badass shotgun..
Pinoysolja7 2 years ago
hurry up with the bolt release please!!! i'm waiting for one before i mod my s12 for a lrbho.. hey.. you ever hear of a s12 mod to make it belt fed?
thebus808 2 years ago 3
sweet!
baseballbmxer 3 years ago
Can you post a vid of how this LRBHO works?
I have seen them for AK 47s but adding them to the S 12 is a whole nother ball game.
RappelzFighter 3 years ago
my cousin baught the molot vepr 12, excellent!
SPARTANsenator1 3 years ago
are these legal and can u get these special ordered at gun shops????????
angerboy2957 3 years ago
Yes, they are legal, in most states. Many gun shops have them in stock now and then, but the demand is very high right now. Try your local shops and gun shows.
vbrtrmn 3 years ago
Saiga 12. Google it, or look it up on gunbroker(dot)com. They go for around $500 for a stock saiga.
Toolofdeath 3 years ago
yeah, but inding one is VEERY HARD
ive only seen one in my life. bunches in other bores like 410 an 20 gauge.. but the S12 is a hard one to come across
slide4squad 3 years ago
If you have to ask, then run away in panic bc they are not legal and no you can't get them ordered at your local gun shop. You can go see the local gang who will be happy to provide one for you...at the right price. XD
UpcomingJedi 2 years ago
Liberal media pats themselves on the back for another brain washed fool, YOU! I thought jedi's where wise... Maybe you should research ours and your rights more before you speak, may do you some good! Come back from the dark side dummy.
hellyeahdrum 2 years ago 8
Semi auto guns are legal
Quappucinno 2 years ago 13
@Quappucinno Full auto are legal too just have to jump through a few legal hoops.
mammoth321 1 year ago 2
The Force tell you this?
Saiga-12 is legal and awesome. It's an anti home invasion kit.
overdark666 2 years ago 17
@UpcomingJedi You sound like a gang banger or a drug cartel scout, is that what you are???
undisputedchamp1986 1 year ago
@UpcomingJedi i bought one at a gun shop. genius
rtgunn33 1 year ago
I want the tin!
ralfuzz 3 years ago
That's a pretty sweet rig ya' got there!
davecharlie07 3 years ago
So when are u going to sell the mag release and mag well id like to have them.
fbs9494 3 years ago
please can you say who or what makes your site and how to get in touch
thanks
agallim 3 years ago
I gotta get me one now. It recoil isn't that bad and it's fire rate is nice as hell for a semi-auto shotgun.
MisterInevitable 3 years ago
the recoil is alot more managable than you might think. being basically built off an AK, it has a nice recoil spring built in that eats up much of the kick. much much softer to shoot than your standard pump shotgun
hotrodhearse 3 years ago
Russian Vepr is much better !
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
You sure about that. From what I've seen the Vepr doesn't have a bolt release to go with the lrbho. I don't believe it has an extended mag release. And the mags don't drop free and are removed buy hand.
hellyeahdrum 3 years ago
H8 to say it I would love to have a Vepr 12...but to my knowledge there is no way to get one into the US. Great mods though, you need to post a new thread for them on Saiga-12 Forum (assuming that you haven't already done so). Great job Mike, when are they coming to the marketplace?
kwstill556 3 years ago
try getting one here then. saiga is izhmash made in russia vepr is Molot made in russia. by the time we take our saigas and modify them, they are far superior to both makes as they have been polished, ported and completely gone over. A tromix would wipe the floor with up against both saiga and vepr russian military issue shotguns.
you own one?
i do.
STORM6490MT 1 year ago
looks like a nice gun. I wonder if you can get one like that in Canada
dagoninfinite 3 years ago
When are these products coming out? Are they on your site yet?
benhur55 3 years ago 4
so now is the SAIGA 12 gas powered or inertia driven?
SymAmineC8H11N 3 years ago
Gas. With a 2 positions. Light and heavy loads.
Search4Truth 3 years ago
I'd definently want a Saiga 12, but the ducks fear my Mossberg 500 already. And I'd like to use my shoulder later in life :-)
Yeah I'm man enough to admit I'm afraid of a little recoil :-)
Trojanballer54 3 years ago 2
It doesn't have bad recoil.
botchalism 3 years ago
I was actually surprised at how lightweight the saiga 12 is. It makes maneuvering a lot easier.
gangstapranksta717 3 years ago
Lol that was funny.
the8jrfan 3 years ago
AWESOME BRO
alyz69 3 years ago
That's a sweet Sega-12, that's exactly what I would do to mine if I had one.
alchemist889 3 years ago
Levi Stratus?
napalm417 3 years ago
i think he meant levi strauss... back pocket i think ;)
pretty sure it was a joke.
vinnyraf 3 years ago
was that a 10 round magazine for a semi-auto shotgun?
huh, that was pretty k0ol
MrHairyNutz 3 years ago
what holds the front of the mag in place?I hope these wil be out soon.
littlenicky999 3 years ago
where did you buy your saiga 12?
halorainbow 3 years ago 3
Ordered your 20rd drum a while ago. I didnt know there were mods like that for a Saiga! That has to be the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. I think ill be buying another soon to tinker with. Thanks again!
Riddco 3 years ago
I have personally used mikes saiga 12, with the magwell and other mods and its revolutionary compared to any other saiga 12 i have ever seen or used.
daytoninternet 3 years ago 2
HOLY SHIT!
lensterleon 3 years ago
AWSOME
spanky454545 4 years ago 3
That is the coolest thing I have seen for Saiga shotguns in a while!
filthypig 4 years ago 3
fucken nice gun
PAULIEWA 4 years ago
Will the mag well work with mdarms drums?
popcatzoo 4 years ago
The one in this video won't. I have a magwell designed that will work with drums and sticks though. The stick only version will hopefully start shipping in early Spring. The version for both will be a little later than that.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Sweet! hope to be a customer as soon a I can get some spare cash.
popcatzoo 4 years ago
when it comes to your safety nothing is excessive
motopilot0919 4 years ago 6
Video games don't feature this gun much anymore because it is too "cheap", as in it blows everything else away to the point of being unfair. Would this be a good gun or a bit excessive for protection, say in the house or a 24 hour convenience store?
Run2Play 4 years ago
In a self defense scenario there is no such thing as excessive when you survival is at stake. In a close quarter situation there isn't another gun (available) that I would want to have in my hands. The only gun (not available) that I think I would choose over it would be the AA-12.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
you like the aa12? i listened to it on full auto and then listened to a Saiga and the Saiga sounded a lot faster. The rail system for the magazine on the aa12 looks clumsy and the Saiga looks like you could carry it easier.
Nice shotgun! Love that catch.
STORM6490MT 3 years ago
True, but comparing muzzle jump, the aa12 looks a little more controllable. The aa12 also operates from an open bolt, which is probably safer. IMHO, plastic shells sitting in a hot chamber face a high cook-off risk (or at least plastic-molten-slag-in-chamber risk).
That said, VERY nice saiga. How much did it run you complete with all accessories/mods?
BlackRifle99 3 years ago
id like to know more about this. when are you thinking they will hit the market.
redsuncivic 4 years ago
HUUUUUUUURRY, PLEASE!!!
fmj2379 4 years ago
levi stratus Hmm where do I get those jeans lol
healthpimp 4 years ago
I think the Chrysler Corporation made them one year, lol. The fact that I said stratus instead of strauss was pointed out to me after the fact. What can I say, I'm a dumbass!
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
You may be a dumbass but you make good products and are very beneficial to the S-12 community. Keep up the good work, dumbass...lol
kwstill556 3 years ago
Awesome, But please tell me, who sells the magwell extended mag tunnel? I want one. Tks Tim
timchc 4 years ago
I will be selling them fairly soon.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Can't wait till I get orders out of Cali! Gotta get back to NC, home of Camp Lejune, and a gun friendly state. When will any of this be available, and for how much, where?
toranoshi20 4 years ago
Man, you have to get out of there. Your behind enemy lines. I am hoping I'll have the stuff ready by late winter, early spring. Don't have a set price but it will be very reasonable. Available nation wide basically.
hellyeahdrum 4 years ago
Awesome. I'm here learning Arabic (SSGT/USMC). I will graduate on Sept 11, 2008 ironically. The Saiga-12 is my white unicorn of ass kickery! Got a complete tool box except for .50bmg anti-matterial capability.... Want a Saiga because 12ga slugs at that rate are pretty much anti-everything. Love my 870, but nothing compares. Thanks for the info, and I'll pass it on to all my other gun happy friends
toranoshi20 4 years ago
Kick-ass,Mike!
telly458 4 years ago
Keep up the good work M!
trippsdad22 4 years ago