Your no agnostic..you are a terrorist muslim...a wolf in sheeps clothing. You are muslim vermin..the world is coming up with a FINAL SOLUTION for the muslims of the world. islam is a Plague upon earth. all muslims will die a horrible death soon. i will cut the throats of every man woman and child muslim. i will smile while i do it.I hate evryone of you vermin scum.Yyou smelland your women are ugly. Please kill yourself today. preferrably a suicide bombing in a crowded muslim city. Hurry.
Oh it is really rarely to see people who are fairly mind.. thank you to show the people that we don't destroy nations but we build the most beautiful culture.
Dont forget that until the Renaissance Averrois was studied by every physician in Europe. His treaties on medicine were something like a bible for physicians. And while in most Europe people were burnt alive as witches, the Arabs were already practising what we call nowadays chemistry and practising anatomy studies. They were also responsible for the salvation of hundreds of Roman/Greek medicine/philosophy/science treaties that had been burnt by the Christians.
while it is true it is also a generalization, the point is of course that all peoples aveerywhere regardles of race or creed seem to have a propensity to violence and hatred towards one another, and of course it is education which should, but not always does,confron this beast that rages withing the human heart.
Who cares?! That was then, this is now. Where is Muslim science and medicine now? 20 steps behind...in everything. Yes, Europeans lived in caves and mud; so what? We NOW live in a world many Muslims wish to emigrate to. Why does Islam fail to satisfy them?
Islamic science is an oxymoron.
2007 - Muslism killed 447,000
Jewish scientist collected 149th Nobel Prize.
Muslim Nobels? 1 and one fatuous "peace" prize to Arafat the killer.
Tell me where Einsteins relativity theory would be without Arab numbers. And by the way you should start by informing yourself before posting on youtube. Abdus-Salam - physics nobel prize winner 1979, Ahmed Zewail - chemistry, Naguib Mahfouz - literature, Orhan Pamuk - literature, Shirin Ebadi, Muhammad Yunus, Arafat - peace. Perhaps if they lived in a country who survives off of US tax payers there could be a few more...
First of all, my culture is the Western culture. My views (although Im agnostic) were influenced by Christianity. Please dont give me that christians raped our culture bullshit. As if Islamic countries are run by Christians and Westerners. Do you know why the Western civilization prospered and the Islamic didnt? Self-criticism!!! We criticize ourselves everyday and that makes us excell. We dont blame others for our problems and we dont wait for God to solve our problems.
My friend its true that Christians and Westerners, don't run 'islamic' countries, but we cannot deny the fact that the rulers/presidents are corrupt and unislamic puppets of the west.Moreover I don't see how these countries can focus on building on the islamic culture when there is no feeling of security.
''We dont blame others for our problems and we dont wait for God to solve our problems.''
Definitely no Muslim should wait,God says you work and will help,not the other way round!.
Is Iran run by puppets of the West? Is Syria ruled by proxy? Dont get blinded by the hatred my friend! Singapore is a Islamic country with close Western ties and is doing very well.
Internal conflict and oposition to change and development by a corrupt oligarchy is whats hindering your prosperity.
Have you ever questioned yourself why terrorists try to blow things up all around the world, when all they had to do was to blow up a few men in their own countries?
Why dont they start revolutions? They seem to be so sure that all muslims are behind them. Because they are financed by the same people that are hindering your countries prosperity. Those corrupt Western puppets as you call them.
Its time you take action in to your own hands and overthrow those obstacles so that once again you can thrive and prosper, instead of always crying around about the western culture.
Iran,Syria,singapore,All of these you call islamic are not!Where is proper Islamic rulings in them? Saudi is trying too hard, you can't have a king or monarchy in Islam
The west is afraid of Islam not because of terrorists primarily but because it is a threat to capitalism. Contd....
Only if if you consider Islamic as imposing the Sharia law... Then theyre not Islamic. Syria is somewhat more complex and might have been a bad example.
Islam a threat to capitalism... no... Islam a threat to democracy... yes... as any religion can be a threat to a democratic system. Religion and politics should not mix.
''Islam a threat to capitalism... no... Islam a threat to democracy''
I have America in mind when i say that islam is a threat to capitalism,as after the collapse of USSR there was only islam left as an ideology in defiance,covering all aspects of life.
''Religion and politics should not mix.''
People have different opinions to that.This topic is looong and complex.
I have this terrible thing that is the absolute necessity to think for myself... and that seems to go against religious authorities of any creed. Thats why Ive distanced myself from religion, although I have this need to feel that there is something out there that is bigger than all of this pathetic world.
Islam is a threat to capitalism and bangiw00 has told the smartest thing I had ever heard and defended for years. The thing you do not understand is the connection between capitalism and democracy in the eyes of capitalists. Capitalists see the freedom of consumption as an indicator of democracy. You should study Edward Bernays -the father of consumption and public relations- to understand this..
It´s true... freedom of consumption is an indicator of democracy, as is the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the freedom to choose your leaders. Thats why any fundamentalism is a threat to democracy more than it is to capitalism. You can live in an undemocratic society and still live in a capitalist society, the other way around doesnt work that well.
No. I don´t get your point. You have state capitalism in Iran and China, but you dont have a democracy there. Islam and capitalism have lived together for decades if not for centuries without there being any conflict. Yet democracy and fundamentalist Islam do not mix, the same goes to any other redical type of religion and democracy. Freedom of consumption is not even the main foundation of democracy. How can you declare that Islam is a threat to capitalism if theres no attack on consumption?
Because you do not use right maps to see the overlap. Who sees Islam -not mere fundamentalists- as a threat? Who supports free market capitalism -which is based on desires not needs? The guys who designed free market capitalism saw it as an indicator of democracy. Analyze Edward Bernays influence on corporations and mass democracy. Islam is based on spirituality not the material world. Attachment to material world is seen as giving up or at least getting away from an eternal life in paradise.
First of all there is a misconception that free market capitalism produced democracy, when it was the other way around. Second of all, Christianity is also spirituality based, as is Buddism, Confucionism, etc. Does that mean that religion cannot coexist with materialism? No, and the proof is that in the holy books of either religion are very few remarks about commerce. Yet for a true democracy to thrive there cannot be an imposition of a faith on anyone. So religions can be a threat to democracy
You would be and look wiser by digging what you think you know better...
I will not continue this dead-end discussion, sorry. My argument is simple and clear: west is scared of Islam because capitalism -against communism/socialism/fascism etc.- is seen as an indicator of/tool for democracy and capitalism does not comply with basic spiritual teachings of Islam with the way it is defined and effective in west.
Now I understand why we arent understanding each other... you use capitalism not as an economic system, but as type of government. You confuse a democracy with capitalism. Could you please say in what way free trade goes against Islam, and please do quote on your holy book. The problem is that in Islamic countries capitalism is used like in the USSR to symbolize the Western type democracies, that, by the way, arent all the same, although they honour the same fundamental values.
And by the way... capitalism is not necessarily a tool for democracy. Athens wasnt a capitalist state, neither was the French Republic, yet they had democracies as type of government. Proteccionism is still used by democratic countries all over the world. As is state capitalism.
The difference between philosophy and fact is philosophy takes place in mind, fact takes place in life. You can say anything but the facts are within history or laboratories. So my humble advice to you again is to dig Edward Bernays, PR and corporatism and then see how Edward Bernays defined consumption as an indicator of democracy. How freedom to choose what to produce and choose what to consume is an indicator of democracy in his paradigm.
Free trade does not goes against Islam the thing is Muslims are adviced to refrain from material world as much as possible. This does not say no trade but it cripples the consumption economy which is the cause of the current crisis all around the world at the moment. Capitalist west can not survive this way... it must always produce and always consume to keep economy in balance...
I agree with you that free trade is an indicator of democracy, but its not the only one. Its not even the most important one. But civil rights, free and fair elections, rule of law, corruption, military and police control, government accountability, etc. are far more important indicators of democracy than just free trade. Unlike what economists say democracy isnt about money or free trade, its about free will.
Even in Islam you have to eat, right? So you have consumption. You need to grow something to eat, right? So you have production. This is the fundamental true about any economy. The problem about modern day capitalism isnt about that fundamental truth. The problem is the unethical behavior of corporations influenced by a galloping neoliberalism. Its neoliberalism that goes against Islam, Christianity, Buddhism and any type of ethical behavior.
USA consumes 45% of production on this planet. Do they just eat? Is that all we need to know about economy? It is maybe neoconservatism causing so much trouble by pumping perverted notion of religion and nationalism as well as free market ideology...
A very quick thing I can suggest you is to go to google video and search for Adam Curtis' documentary: The Century of The Self.
"This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy." - Adam Curtis
And by the way... "....anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people." Guess those 9/11 terrorists and all the people who blow themselves up killing civilians caught the midnight express to hell!
This fado is a great soundtrack for an islam evokation through western eyes (the lyric is from a poem from a great XX century portuguese poet, José Régio, 1901-1969)
allah does not exist. Muhammad was a warmongering pedophile. We love all immigrants except muslims. Islam means terror therefore it has to be destroyed.
LOLOLOL we dont wanna discuss the numbers associated with christian slavery, extremination of peoples and colonialism do we???? no we dont... so please brother have a nice day
but yes in eeeeeeevery field, and yes the contributions in maths and geography were crucial. man really its so rare for someone from outside to know about our little piece of land lolooolol yes there are theories that fado was inspired arab/berber/etc music.. i personally believe fado didnt come out of nowhere in the XIX century as some of us like to think.. and i put a fado music here as a tribute to our cultural sinergies lol...
man volcovern im touched with everything you know about portugal, really. thank you so much for sharing. the muslims contributed in basically every immaginable field, from agriculture to phislosophy. normally we here in portugal remember best the contributions in the "water management" field (irrigation techniques, storage techniques, etc) that were so crucial for us to be able and develop sustainable economies in our arid lands...
lol yeah maybe... but i think you did notice only the interior is shown.. yes youre right but anyway its islamic now.. and it was only one interior picture, cause its beautiful.
thank you for a constructive criticism. yt lacks those lol. have a great day
Because, you know, she a national symbol and we might be hospitable but we would appreciate that our symbols would be left out of third party political statements...
as a proxy for islamic art????????? tao pa para la de envergonhar a nacao c a ignorancia que nos e caracteristica, fodas... por favor!!!! ok man the reason i put amalia here is because, ironically, it will sound like an arab music for the ignorant listener... and do you know why that is, my dear national brother??? because fado & the spanish equivalents very probably come from............................... the islamic influence we had in our beautiful lands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its part of the vid. jesus. man really "a proxy" lol somethimes we dont know whether to laugh or cry right compatriota??? fodas e por isto que o pessoal imigra assim que possivel
eu sei. faz impressao a nos portugas que estamos dentro do assunto. e preciso distancia para se ter uma boa perspectiva intercultural. e a perspectiva e de fusao e proximidade.
PART4) I do not distinguish beetwin the muslims the zionists and the idiotic american fundimentalists one little bit and I don`t care how nice their buildings are. I`m ready to stand corrected.
excellent points. ill respond to them tomorrow, if you dont mind. im totally exausted and havent slept last night. thank you for beginning a very interesting argument :DDD
PART3) I deserve more than others who do not hold the truth it tells me that this land and that land is ment to be mine and those who live there for thousands of years are just a historical anomaly.and why not?my book holds the truth and theirs does not.....to make the story short I give you one word....PALESTINE!!!!
I believe that the muslim world is going through it`s dark ages and I say this in full knoledge of our own!
example:my book says that it is true and it is the only truth there is.(That,in it`s self is problematic,but lets take it one step further)now,my book tells me that I`m the chosen people and as such
PART1) Ok.I`m not going to pretend that I know islam,but I will say this:It is a religion and from what I understand it is not just a novelty to it`s subjects like christianity has become to it`s own (with the exemption of the americans who actualy give literal meanning to it)muslims actualy believe what their book says pretty much like the jews do.
man tomliordos my brother youre so right... islamic fundamentalists are just like american freaks and romanian faschsists etc etc etc... i think its part of the same phenomenon, to tell you the truth.
man i think that what is written anywhere doesnt really matter. the coran, the talmud, the bible have thousands and thousands of many times incoherent and contradicting "truths". i think that therefore the issue is not what is "written" but its interpretation. for example the coran says death to the non islamics in page A and love for all mankind and specially the revealed religions in page B. you just have to choose.
i think that people are interpreting the coran in an incorrect and fundamentalist way not because the book in itself is bad but because people, societies, are in a deep crisis. this crisis is politico-socio-economical and has to do with overpopulation, unemployement, hunger, frustration, etc; it has absolutely nothing to do with islam in itself. to me the proof is that when the society was flourishing,
islam was by far more peaceful and tolerant than christianity. people did not interpret the book literally; it was seen almost as we in europe see the bible today. so i believe that if we want to end with this shit we just have to worry about getting food and proper living conditions to everyone. the extremism will go away by itself.
i believe similar reasons explain american fundamentalism vs european "rationalism"/atheism/liberalism/whatever you call it. what does europe have that america doesnt??? proper healthcare, proper schooling, proper social services in general. we do not see freedom as "the-right-to-own-a-gun-lets-privatize-this-whole-shit-
we understand that well being for all is a necessary condition for a reasonably civilized and peaceful society etc so we just dont need religious fundamentalism or profound hatred towards whatever or any of that crap to fill any psychological vacuum. the rise of fascism in eastern europe has to do with the collapse of the state etc etc etc etc at least thats how i see it.
so if we want to calm this down and return to "rationnality", we should look to the earthly and not religious conditions. but well thats just my opinion.
you should move this video around a bit. it's a shame it only has a couple hundred views. problem is, the muslims who are loudest here are also the most artless.
:) thanks for the video! It was beautiful! I hadn't seen alot of the pics but the culture is so rich even I, as a muslim, was unaware of it! People forgot the Islam contributed greatly to agriculture and science which till then was considered evil. :) thanks again!
hey thank you!!!! im really happy you liked it!!! yes i agree the culture is incredibly rich and diverse.. i made a mmini class work on islamic art last year, thats where i took the pics from. and well trust me we in portugal + spain have not forgot the great contribution of islam to our cultures. we have not forgot all you taught us, and how barbarian we were lol the heritage is everywhere, and we (specially spain) cherish it. anyway really thank you and all the best!!!
wow! I had no idea Islam left such a positive influence in Spain and Portugal, thanks for giving us your insight! and thank YOU for making the vid! you're very talented in making vids with ineteresting topics!
yeah and the knowledges of astronomy and navigation left by islam in portugal and spain were very important in our "discoverys" and maritime expansion
You Say "portugal + spain have not forgot the great contribution of islam to our cultures. we have not forgot all you taught us, and how barbarian we were lol the heritage is everywhere"
...and that is VERY disturbing. You say you are Portuguese, live in Portugal and yet YOU say this! Please name these "great contributions" and "all that you taught us." I can hardly wait.
man just watch the vid and youll get an idea. PLEASE read some history books and youll very quicly see what im talking about. facts are facts LOL jesus.
madbcc, I know world history well, has been a passion of mine longer than not. I have lineage in Portugal. Your comment seemed very misleading and surely not very factual which is why I asked you to name these "great contributions" and "all that YOU taught us." What are YOU talking about? What contributions and lessons, ha ha.
i dont understand what youre talking about. if youre still claiming that portugal/the west didnt gain anything from islam, all i can tell you is to check those sources because anyone who doesnt know how much the islamic culture brung to the christian one (from the number 0 to the most sophisticated irrigation techiques around, still used in modern spain btw) isnt even at the wikipedia level. have a great day
for all of this (and more) i would say that even tough Islam is not incompatible with democracy or human rights, shariah definetelly is... shariah as to change or at least it as to be interpretated in a different way... some centuryes ago christians had inquisition and crusades i hope some years from now muslins feel no more need to sharia and jihad
on top of that under in sharia women have a role of submission to men... and according to many interpretations of sharia the penalty for apostasy (conversion of a muslin to other religion) is death
pa tenho que te pedir dsc pq o meu mssenger ta f*** e eu nao recebo as msgs a dizer que tenho comments etc.. por isso e que nao respondo logo dsc la e obg :D
but the problem comes with shariah... the islamic law! the problem with sharia is that not only it consists of a compilation of recomendations and rules that a muslin should follow but also it includes the punishements for the ones who don't follow the rules and those can be as severe and brutal as stonning to death for married people who commit adultery or amputation of hand for theft
we all know many muslims that just dont have that kind of religion to church.. i truly believe that there is nothing in islam in itself that is incompatible with anything...cultures are very dynamic i believe...
well yes but, as you say, we used to have all kinds of christian moral conduct ruling our societies too... you know, some decades ago Bourguiba (tunisian president) drank a glass of orange juice on national TV during ramadan because "God doesn't want His children to be unhealthy"... lol i believe that the meaning, place and importance of the sharia can be reinvented, just as everything else...
there are 5 basic pillars to islam: sahadah, salat, zakat, sawm and haj and they say things like:
a muslin must testify there is no god but allah, should pray 5 times facing mecca, should spend a fixed portion of his wealth for the bennefict of the needy, should observe fasting (during ramadan) and should go to mecca at least once in his life... i don't see any destruction in this.. seams the kind of rules any religion creates..
exactly!!! whats the f*** problem??? and people tend to forget just how secular the muslim world was only like 30 years ago... man ive seen so many incredibly stupid videos on the issue that i don't really know what to say anymore...
Islam is not as bad as it is often showed and it isn't a religion of destruction. I also belive most horrors we see in the muslim world have little to do with islam in itself and much with social (earthly) dynamics but there are some serious issues about islam
and pretty mosques prove???? What?? That the rulers would rather build a building that helps them enslave the minds of their subjects?? This is a good thing? For whom??
LOL man you guys are hard to get it... show me a culture without religion, please. please. beautiful monuments (cause there are palaces and common complexes there too) mean that that islam is above all a CULTURE. forget about the religion, cause all religions are nothing but social inventions designed to keep people from killing each other. just because now we have CITIZENSHIP to replace religion doesnt mean were better..
When the finger points to the sun, the idiot stares at the finger
and you guys are so f*** stupid sometimes... do you disapprove venice, paris and london too???? cause you know all those buildings were builted at the expense of the poor enslaved europeans... LOL get a clue
Unfortunate how people play right into things. There are times in life when thinking with the heart suits us. This is not one of them. lol. Especially for those who tend to be followers.
lol... well ive seen the most incredible videos on islam made by atheist fundamentalists (as are most atheists on yt...they dont even realiize theyre even more blind than religious people) that it just made me sick... and well my land did use to be islamic.. portugal actually was born from the "fight with islam", the reconquest. we must respect evryone i believe, cause were all equal
Most atheist I see are angry at religon. Although I believe in God, I dont like what religon has become either. In my opinion when Doghma chases Kharma, Kharma runs over Doghma. This subject leads me toward corruption as well. haha. Wicked world. lol! seriously though. Just another oppotunity for abuse.
i truly believe that the horros we see in the muslim world have little to do with islam in itself and much with social (earthly) dynamics. i beleieve the conflicts we see in the muslim world are only one type of "globalization times" conflicts among many many many others.
but well, just wanted to make a point, like, im supposed to believe that Islam is a shitty religion just cause some guy on YT says so?!
yes, youre totally right. im an atheist, im absolutely choor there is no God anywhere else than in our collective minds. however, i believe that "our collective minds" are worth some respect. i dont believe that it is religion that makes people do bad things, i believe people make themselves do bad things. religion is just a conceptual, social system invented by human groups in order to be abble to live together according to commonly accepted rules.
All the bad things in religion have come from someone abusing their power. Spiritual connectivity has nothing to do with worldly power. It's a personal theme. This realization allows me to accept your atheism without feeling the need to bend your view to my will.
I could go to great lengths on the subject and I'm sure you've probably heard it all. lol. I can still love you as a fellow human being. This is where almost all religon goes wrong. Trying to tend someone elses house we leave ours empty. How's school BTW?
lol:) exactly... all bad things in religion have to do with wordly power, i totally agree. and it is a personal theme. thanks:) i wont try to convert you to atheism either... and well im a strange atheist, i go to church every wekk with my grandmother lol... respect, much respect. always. cause we must be aware of our ignorance, i believe :)
roman catholic church... no schools in portuguese catholic church... youre a catholic too????? its like a small minority in america isnt it??? cause here its like 99.99% of the population... in fact i only learned that there were "protestants" in like the tenth grade... lol
hehe. no. I meant how is school for you? hehe. last we talked you said you were very busy. no, like i said, no religion for me thanks. Catholosism especially! no offense. lol.
You can take the beautiful parts of it you want and leave what you dont. Bringing something entirely new into the world. That's what life's all about.
Your no agnostic..you are a terrorist muslim...a wolf in sheeps clothing. You are muslim vermin..the world is coming up with a FINAL SOLUTION for the muslims of the world. islam is a Plague upon earth. all muslims will die a horrible death soon. i will cut the throats of every man woman and child muslim. i will smile while i do it.I hate evryone of you vermin scum.Yyou smelland your women are ugly. Please kill yourself today. preferrably a suicide bombing in a crowded muslim city. Hurry.
MarkFFHH 2 years ago
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@MarkFFHH "i will cut the throats of every man woman and child muslim. i will smile while i do it.I hate evryone of you vermin scum."
Is that what the bible told you?
DeoX94 2 years ago
quem e a cantora?
2012maira 2 years ago
Portugal era um pais Mulçumano, a igreja catolica foi la e detonou tudo, saiu pelo mundo acabando com culturas..
inclusive meu pais Brasil....
esse fado é muito bonito....ela canta do coração!!!
2012maira 2 years ago
Oh it is really rarely to see people who are fairly mind.. thank you to show the people that we don't destroy nations but we build the most beautiful culture.
mewoone 2 years ago
islam is ugly only through a haters eyes; they curse at Allah and call prophet Muhammed a pedophile.
AnaMurida 3 years ago
Every religion has good and bad, and well since each human practicing a religion is unique so are their impacts.
Darkwolfy88 3 years ago 2
Dont forget that until the Renaissance Averrois was studied by every physician in Europe. His treaties on medicine were something like a bible for physicians. And while in most Europe people were burnt alive as witches, the Arabs were already practising what we call nowadays chemistry and practising anatomy studies. They were also responsible for the salvation of hundreds of Roman/Greek medicine/philosophy/science treaties that had been burnt by the Christians.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago 8
exactly :DD
madbcc 3 years ago
while it is true it is also a generalization, the point is of course that all peoples aveerywhere regardles of race or creed seem to have a propensity to violence and hatred towards one another, and of course it is education which should, but not always does,confron this beast that rages withing the human heart.
ayahuascamantoo 3 years ago
Who cares?! That was then, this is now. Where is Muslim science and medicine now? 20 steps behind...in everything. Yes, Europeans lived in caves and mud; so what? We NOW live in a world many Muslims wish to emigrate to. Why does Islam fail to satisfy them?
Islamic science is an oxymoron.
2007 - Muslism killed 447,000
Jewish scientist collected 149th Nobel Prize.
Muslim Nobels? 1 and one fatuous "peace" prize to Arafat the killer.
ChomFa 3 years ago
Tell me where Einsteins relativity theory would be without Arab numbers. And by the way you should start by informing yourself before posting on youtube. Abdus-Salam - physics nobel prize winner 1979, Ahmed Zewail - chemistry, Naguib Mahfouz - literature, Orhan Pamuk - literature, Shirin Ebadi, Muhammad Yunus, Arafat - peace. Perhaps if they lived in a country who survives off of US tax payers there could be a few more...
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
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AnaMurida 3 years ago
First of all, my culture is the Western culture. My views (although Im agnostic) were influenced by Christianity. Please dont give me that christians raped our culture bullshit. As if Islamic countries are run by Christians and Westerners. Do you know why the Western civilization prospered and the Islamic didnt? Self-criticism!!! We criticize ourselves everyday and that makes us excell. We dont blame others for our problems and we dont wait for God to solve our problems.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
My friend its true that Christians and Westerners, don't run 'islamic' countries, but we cannot deny the fact that the rulers/presidents are corrupt and unislamic puppets of the west.Moreover I don't see how these countries can focus on building on the islamic culture when there is no feeling of security.
''We dont blame others for our problems and we dont wait for God to solve our problems.''
Definitely no Muslim should wait,God says you work and will help,not the other way round!.
peace,
bangiw00 3 years ago
Is Iran run by puppets of the West? Is Syria ruled by proxy? Dont get blinded by the hatred my friend! Singapore is a Islamic country with close Western ties and is doing very well.
Internal conflict and oposition to change and development by a corrupt oligarchy is whats hindering your prosperity.
Have you ever questioned yourself why terrorists try to blow things up all around the world, when all they had to do was to blow up a few men in their own countries?
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
Why dont they start revolutions? They seem to be so sure that all muslims are behind them. Because they are financed by the same people that are hindering your countries prosperity. Those corrupt Western puppets as you call them.
Its time you take action in to your own hands and overthrow those obstacles so that once again you can thrive and prosper, instead of always crying around about the western culture.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
Iran,Syria,singapore,All of these you call islamic are not!Where is proper Islamic rulings in them? Saudi is trying too hard, you can't have a king or monarchy in Islam
The west is afraid of Islam not because of terrorists primarily but because it is a threat to capitalism. Contd....
bangiw00 3 years ago
These bombers I believe are averse to what they fear is the emmersing of their own countries in western influenc, and intrference.
Modernisaton at break-neck speed is not good,the west took its time and space,they should let other these countries their time.
bangiw00 3 years ago
Only if if you consider Islamic as imposing the Sharia law... Then theyre not Islamic. Syria is somewhat more complex and might have been a bad example.
Islam a threat to capitalism... no... Islam a threat to democracy... yes... as any religion can be a threat to a democratic system. Religion and politics should not mix.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
''Islam a threat to capitalism... no... Islam a threat to democracy''
I have America in mind when i say that islam is a threat to capitalism,as after the collapse of USSR there was only islam left as an ideology in defiance,covering all aspects of life.
''Religion and politics should not mix.''
People have different opinions to that.This topic is looong and complex.
(Are you christian?)
bangiw00 3 years ago
No... Im agnostic but I had a christian upbringing.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
I have this terrible thing that is the absolute necessity to think for myself... and that seems to go against religious authorities of any creed. Thats why Ive distanced myself from religion, although I have this need to feel that there is something out there that is bigger than all of this pathetic world.
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
Islam is a threat to capitalism and bangiw00 has told the smartest thing I had ever heard and defended for years. The thing you do not understand is the connection between capitalism and democracy in the eyes of capitalists. Capitalists see the freedom of consumption as an indicator of democracy. You should study Edward Bernays -the father of consumption and public relations- to understand this..
paralaks 2 years ago
It´s true... freedom of consumption is an indicator of democracy, as is the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the freedom to choose your leaders. Thats why any fundamentalism is a threat to democracy more than it is to capitalism. You can live in an undemocratic society and still live in a capitalist society, the other way around doesnt work that well.
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
So?? got your answer or still need an explanation?
paralaks 2 years ago
No. I don´t get your point. You have state capitalism in Iran and China, but you dont have a democracy there. Islam and capitalism have lived together for decades if not for centuries without there being any conflict. Yet democracy and fundamentalist Islam do not mix, the same goes to any other redical type of religion and democracy. Freedom of consumption is not even the main foundation of democracy. How can you declare that Islam is a threat to capitalism if theres no attack on consumption?
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
Because you do not use right maps to see the overlap. Who sees Islam -not mere fundamentalists- as a threat? Who supports free market capitalism -which is based on desires not needs? The guys who designed free market capitalism saw it as an indicator of democracy. Analyze Edward Bernays influence on corporations and mass democracy. Islam is based on spirituality not the material world. Attachment to material world is seen as giving up or at least getting away from an eternal life in paradise.
paralaks 2 years ago
First of all there is a misconception that free market capitalism produced democracy, when it was the other way around. Second of all, Christianity is also spirituality based, as is Buddism, Confucionism, etc. Does that mean that religion cannot coexist with materialism? No, and the proof is that in the holy books of either religion are very few remarks about commerce. Yet for a true democracy to thrive there cannot be an imposition of a faith on anyone. So religions can be a threat to democracy
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
You would be and look wiser by digging what you think you know better...
I will not continue this dead-end discussion, sorry. My argument is simple and clear: west is scared of Islam because capitalism -against communism/socialism/fascism etc.- is seen as an indicator of/tool for democracy and capitalism does not comply with basic spiritual teachings of Islam with the way it is defined and effective in west.
paralaks 2 years ago
Now I understand why we arent understanding each other... you use capitalism not as an economic system, but as type of government. You confuse a democracy with capitalism. Could you please say in what way free trade goes against Islam, and please do quote on your holy book. The problem is that in Islamic countries capitalism is used like in the USSR to symbolize the Western type democracies, that, by the way, arent all the same, although they honour the same fundamental values.
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
And by the way... capitalism is not necessarily a tool for democracy. Athens wasnt a capitalist state, neither was the French Republic, yet they had democracies as type of government. Proteccionism is still used by democratic countries all over the world. As is state capitalism.
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
The difference between philosophy and fact is philosophy takes place in mind, fact takes place in life. You can say anything but the facts are within history or laboratories. So my humble advice to you again is to dig Edward Bernays, PR and corporatism and then see how Edward Bernays defined consumption as an indicator of democracy. How freedom to choose what to produce and choose what to consume is an indicator of democracy in his paradigm.
paralaks 2 years ago
Free trade does not goes against Islam the thing is Muslims are adviced to refrain from material world as much as possible. This does not say no trade but it cripples the consumption economy which is the cause of the current crisis all around the world at the moment. Capitalist west can not survive this way... it must always produce and always consume to keep economy in balance...
paralaks 2 years ago
I agree with you that free trade is an indicator of democracy, but its not the only one. Its not even the most important one. But civil rights, free and fair elections, rule of law, corruption, military and police control, government accountability, etc. are far more important indicators of democracy than just free trade. Unlike what economists say democracy isnt about money or free trade, its about free will.
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
Even in Islam you have to eat, right? So you have consumption. You need to grow something to eat, right? So you have production. This is the fundamental true about any economy. The problem about modern day capitalism isnt about that fundamental truth. The problem is the unethical behavior of corporations influenced by a galloping neoliberalism. Its neoliberalism that goes against Islam, Christianity, Buddhism and any type of ethical behavior.
Lusitan1981 2 years ago
USA consumes 45% of production on this planet. Do they just eat? Is that all we need to know about economy? It is maybe neoconservatism causing so much trouble by pumping perverted notion of religion and nationalism as well as free market ideology...
paralaks 2 years ago
A very quick thing I can suggest you is to go to google video and search for Adam Curtis' documentary: The Century of The Self.
"This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy." - Adam Curtis
paralaks 2 years ago
And by the way... "....anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people." Guess those 9/11 terrorists and all the people who blow themselves up killing civilians caught the midnight express to hell!
Lusitan1981 3 years ago
Lol,hell...try telling them..they are senseless
bangiw00 3 years ago
@Lusitan1981 you are absolutely right.
valkyriez1 1 year ago
Such beautiful architecture, art and artifacts.
pavlovich74 3 years ago 2
This fado is a great soundtrack for an islam evokation through western eyes (the lyric is from a poem from a great XX century portuguese poet, José Régio, 1901-1969)
USAeabusa2 4 years ago 7
obg irmao. curte :DD
madbcc 4 years ago
Good Muslim is only a dead Muslim. Islam has brought the world into the dark age. Long live the lights and beauty of Christianity.
XBritishNationalistX 4 years ago
yes well long live catholicism.... all dogs to hell right??? LOL you guys are worse than bin laden, if you ask me :DD
have a nice day
madbcc 4 years ago
@XBritishNationalistX Yes Fuck Islam.
ZukefliJohan 1 week ago
very nice music, Portugal pa frente
larensflarens 4 years ago
allah does not exist. Muhammad was a warmongering pedophile. We love all immigrants except muslims. Islam means terror therefore it has to be destroyed.
mark456m 4 years ago
lol
madbcc 4 years ago
lol? I bet the 70-80 million Hindus who were killed by islam when the legions of bloodthirsty Moo-HAM-mad invaded India dont think it is funny.
mark456m 4 years ago
LOLOLOL we dont wanna discuss the numbers associated with christian slavery, extremination of peoples and colonialism do we???? no we dont... so please brother have a nice day
madbcc 4 years ago
Yeah. That's why Gandhi's opposition was against west..
paralaks 3 years ago
i will :DD
madbcc 4 years ago
man ayway thank you for passing by :DDD and all the best brother :)))) do more videos!!!! lol i watch them :DD
madbcc 4 years ago
but yes in eeeeeeevery field, and yes the contributions in maths and geography were crucial. man really its so rare for someone from outside to know about our little piece of land lolooolol yes there are theories that fado was inspired arab/berber/etc music.. i personally believe fado didnt come out of nowhere in the XIX century as some of us like to think.. and i put a fado music here as a tribute to our cultural sinergies lol...
madbcc 4 years ago
man volcovern im touched with everything you know about portugal, really. thank you so much for sharing. the muslims contributed in basically every immaginable field, from agriculture to phislosophy. normally we here in portugal remember best the contributions in the "water management" field (irrigation techniques, storage techniques, etc) that were so crucial for us to be able and develop sustainable economies in our arid lands...
madbcc 4 years ago
Bloody hell muzzies=killers,rapers,thiefs etc but only 78% of them are like that (sharia) the other % are good/bad
21StCenturyWarfare 4 years ago
yeah yeah bla bla bla i know your position. thanks for sharing anyway. jesus lol
merry christmas an a happy new year
madbcc 4 years ago
zzzZZZzzzZZZzzz...
paralaks 3 years ago
This is the second time I watch this video. Excellent work! I didn't know the Moors have influenced Portugal as well. I only knew Andulisia.
TheSubstituteChoice 4 years ago
By reason, you have to take out HagiaSophia of your demonstration.
neiYoo 4 years ago
lol yeah maybe... but i think you did notice only the interior is shown.. yes youre right but anyway its islamic now.. and it was only one interior picture, cause its beautiful.
thank you for a constructive criticism. yt lacks those lol. have a great day
madbcc 4 years ago
a beautiful collection, thanx for the upload :)
is the song turkish by the way?
jjalmood 4 years ago
Worse bash Islam week ever.
Bendicoben 4 years ago
Because, you know, she a national symbol and we might be hospitable but we would appreciate that our symbols would be left out of third party political statements...
zeluiso 4 years ago
pa vaite tratar sff. porra dsc la ser tao agressiva mas fico msm passada qd a estupidez vem de um conacional. fodas.
madbcc 4 years ago
Just a question? Is someone posting Amália (Portuguese and profoundly catholic singer) as a proxy for Islamic art?
zeluiso 4 years ago
I was wondering about that.
Is it plain Amalia? or does she have a last name?
Love that song I`d like to get more of her music.
tomliordos 4 years ago
its amalia rodrigues and i can send you names of songs if you like :DDD thanks for wonderful comments.
madbcc 4 years ago
as a proxy for islamic art????????? tao pa para la de envergonhar a nacao c a ignorancia que nos e caracteristica, fodas... por favor!!!! ok man the reason i put amalia here is because, ironically, it will sound like an arab music for the ignorant listener... and do you know why that is, my dear national brother??? because fado & the spanish equivalents very probably come from............................... the islamic influence we had in our beautiful lands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
madbcc 4 years ago
its part of the vid. jesus. man really "a proxy" lol somethimes we dont know whether to laugh or cry right compatriota??? fodas e por isto que o pessoal imigra assim que possivel
madbcc 4 years ago
faz impressão a mistura da música de Amália com essas imagens...
barbarabarbi 4 years ago
eu sei. faz impressao a nos portugas que estamos dentro do assunto. e preciso distancia para se ter uma boa perspectiva intercultural. e a perspectiva e de fusao e proximidade.
ole ole F. Braudel e que e
madbcc 4 years ago
PART4) I do not distinguish beetwin the muslims the zionists and the idiotic american fundimentalists one little bit and I don`t care how nice their buildings are. I`m ready to stand corrected.
tomliordos 4 years ago
excellent points. ill respond to them tomorrow, if you dont mind. im totally exausted and havent slept last night. thank you for beginning a very interesting argument :DDD
madbcc 4 years ago
`cource I don`t mind.
tomliordos 4 years ago
PART3) I deserve more than others who do not hold the truth it tells me that this land and that land is ment to be mine and those who live there for thousands of years are just a historical anomaly.and why not?my book holds the truth and theirs does not.....to make the story short I give you one word....PALESTINE!!!!
I believe that the muslim world is going through it`s dark ages and I say this in full knoledge of our own!
tomliordos 4 years ago
PART2)
example:my book says that it is true and it is the only truth there is.(That,in it`s self is problematic,but lets take it one step further)now,my book tells me that I`m the chosen people and as such
tomliordos 4 years ago
PART1) Ok.I`m not going to pretend that I know islam,but I will say this:It is a religion and from what I understand it is not just a novelty to it`s subjects like christianity has become to it`s own (with the exemption of the americans who actualy give literal meanning to it)muslims actualy believe what their book says pretty much like the jews do.
and we all know how that always ends up.
tomliordos 4 years ago
man tomliordos my brother youre so right... islamic fundamentalists are just like american freaks and romanian faschsists etc etc etc... i think its part of the same phenomenon, to tell you the truth.
madbcc 4 years ago
man i think that what is written anywhere doesnt really matter. the coran, the talmud, the bible have thousands and thousands of many times incoherent and contradicting "truths". i think that therefore the issue is not what is "written" but its interpretation. for example the coran says death to the non islamics in page A and love for all mankind and specially the revealed religions in page B. you just have to choose.
madbcc 4 years ago
i think that people are interpreting the coran in an incorrect and fundamentalist way not because the book in itself is bad but because people, societies, are in a deep crisis. this crisis is politico-socio-economical and has to do with overpopulation, unemployement, hunger, frustration, etc; it has absolutely nothing to do with islam in itself. to me the proof is that when the society was flourishing,
madbcc 4 years ago
islam was by far more peaceful and tolerant than christianity. people did not interpret the book literally; it was seen almost as we in europe see the bible today. so i believe that if we want to end with this shit we just have to worry about getting food and proper living conditions to everyone. the extremism will go away by itself.
madbcc 4 years ago
i believe similar reasons explain american fundamentalism vs european "rationalism"/atheism/liberalism/whatever you call it. what does europe have that america doesnt??? proper healthcare, proper schooling, proper social services in general. we do not see freedom as "the-right-to-own-a-gun-lets-privatize-this-whole-shit-
and-i-dont-see-why-i-should-pay-for-someone-elses-retirement-pension",
madbcc 4 years ago
we understand that well being for all is a necessary condition for a reasonably civilized and peaceful society etc so we just dont need religious fundamentalism or profound hatred towards whatever or any of that crap to fill any psychological vacuum. the rise of fascism in eastern europe has to do with the collapse of the state etc etc etc etc at least thats how i see it.
madbcc 4 years ago
so if we want to calm this down and return to "rationnality", we should look to the earthly and not religious conditions. but well thats just my opinion.
madbcc 4 years ago
beauttifully done. thank you.
arabithings 4 years ago
thank you!!! :DD
madbcc 4 years ago
Excellent !... Great Vid, merci ;)
samo75 4 years ago
merci!!!! je suis heureuse que tu ais apprécié, vraiment... all the best :DDD
madbcc 4 years ago
slam is shit!
splcst659 4 years ago
lol i know what you think...thanks for sharing again anyway. jesus.
madbcc 4 years ago
excelente video,mto bem montado,parabéns colega!
pirilamposssssssssss 4 years ago
obg!!!! curte bues
madbcc 4 years ago
you should move this video around a bit. it's a shame it only has a couple hundred views. problem is, the muslims who are loudest here are also the most artless.
xxxild 4 years ago
:) thanks for the video! It was beautiful! I hadn't seen alot of the pics but the culture is so rich even I, as a muslim, was unaware of it! People forgot the Islam contributed greatly to agriculture and science which till then was considered evil. :) thanks again!
powa2live 4 years ago
hey thank you!!!! im really happy you liked it!!! yes i agree the culture is incredibly rich and diverse.. i made a mmini class work on islamic art last year, thats where i took the pics from. and well trust me we in portugal + spain have not forgot the great contribution of islam to our cultures. we have not forgot all you taught us, and how barbarian we were lol the heritage is everywhere, and we (specially spain) cherish it. anyway really thank you and all the best!!!
madbcc 4 years ago
wow! I had no idea Islam left such a positive influence in Spain and Portugal, thanks for giving us your insight! and thank YOU for making the vid! you're very talented in making vids with ineteresting topics!
powa2live 4 years ago
yeah and the knowledges of astronomy and navigation left by islam in portugal and spain were very important in our "discoverys" and maritime expansion
pvzci2 4 years ago
wow thanks pvzci@, it's realy something to know that Islam left such a huge impact in a predominantly christian society, God bless dude!
powa2live 4 years ago
Don't kid yourself. It didn't.
ArcticGarlicX2 4 years ago
Bull. You must be one who believes Arabs invented Air, also.
ArcticGarlicX2 4 years ago
You Say "portugal + spain have not forgot the great contribution of islam to our cultures. we have not forgot all you taught us, and how barbarian we were lol the heritage is everywhere"
...and that is VERY disturbing. You say you are Portuguese, live in Portugal and yet YOU say this! Please name these "great contributions" and "all that you taught us." I can hardly wait.
ArcticGarlicX2 4 years ago
Artic
man just watch the vid and youll get an idea. PLEASE read some history books and youll very quicly see what im talking about. facts are facts LOL jesus.
madbcc 4 years ago
madbcc, I know world history well, has been a passion of mine longer than not. I have lineage in Portugal. Your comment seemed very misleading and surely not very factual which is why I asked you to name these "great contributions" and "all that YOU taught us." What are YOU talking about? What contributions and lessons, ha ha.
ArcticGarlicX2 4 years ago
i dont understand what youre talking about. if youre still claiming that portugal/the west didnt gain anything from islam, all i can tell you is to check those sources because anyone who doesnt know how much the islamic culture brung to the christian one (from the number 0 to the most sophisticated irrigation techiques around, still used in modern spain btw) isnt even at the wikipedia level. have a great day
madbcc 4 years ago
Good Grief. Have a swell day.
Peace out.
ArcticGarlicX2 4 years ago
for all of this (and more) i would say that even tough Islam is not incompatible with democracy or human rights, shariah definetelly is... shariah as to change or at least it as to be interpretated in a different way... some centuryes ago christians had inquisition and crusades i hope some years from now muslins feel no more need to sharia and jihad
pvzci2 4 years ago
on top of that under in sharia women have a role of submission to men... and according to many interpretations of sharia the penalty for apostasy (conversion of a muslin to other religion) is death
pvzci2 4 years ago
pa tenho que te pedir dsc pq o meu mssenger ta f*** e eu nao recebo as msgs a dizer que tenho comments etc.. por isso e que nao respondo logo dsc la e obg :D
madbcc 4 years ago
but the problem comes with shariah... the islamic law! the problem with sharia is that not only it consists of a compilation of recomendations and rules that a muslin should follow but also it includes the punishements for the ones who don't follow the rules and those can be as severe and brutal as stonning to death for married people who commit adultery or amputation of hand for theft
pvzci2 4 years ago
we all know many muslims that just dont have that kind of religion to church.. i truly believe that there is nothing in islam in itself that is incompatible with anything...cultures are very dynamic i believe...
madbcc 4 years ago
well yes but, as you say, we used to have all kinds of christian moral conduct ruling our societies too... you know, some decades ago Bourguiba (tunisian president) drank a glass of orange juice on national TV during ramadan because "God doesn't want His children to be unhealthy"... lol i believe that the meaning, place and importance of the sharia can be reinvented, just as everything else...
madbcc 4 years ago
there are 5 basic pillars to islam: sahadah, salat, zakat, sawm and haj and they say things like:
a muslin must testify there is no god but allah, should pray 5 times facing mecca, should spend a fixed portion of his wealth for the bennefict of the needy, should observe fasting (during ramadan) and should go to mecca at least once in his life... i don't see any destruction in this.. seams the kind of rules any religion creates..
pvzci2 4 years ago
exactly!!! whats the f*** problem??? and people tend to forget just how secular the muslim world was only like 30 years ago... man ive seen so many incredibly stupid videos on the issue that i don't really know what to say anymore...
madbcc 4 years ago
Islam is not as bad as it is often showed and it isn't a religion of destruction. I also belive most horrors we see in the muslim world have little to do with islam in itself and much with social (earthly) dynamics but there are some serious issues about islam
pvzci2 4 years ago
thanks!!! obg :) tudo do melhor colega e continuamos a espera da prox animação ;) curte bue
madbcc 4 years ago
great video!!! I also agree that most atheists on youtube are or at least the ones making videos on atheism are a bit too fundamentalist...
pvzci2 4 years ago
Oof, my art history is getting rusty lol. Beautiful video :)
cujothekitten 4 years ago
thank you!! :)
madbcc 4 years ago
and pretty mosques prove???? What?? That the rulers would rather build a building that helps them enslave the minds of their subjects?? This is a good thing? For whom??
KasparHauser4 4 years ago
LOL man you guys are hard to get it... show me a culture without religion, please. please. beautiful monuments (cause there are palaces and common complexes there too) mean that that islam is above all a CULTURE. forget about the religion, cause all religions are nothing but social inventions designed to keep people from killing each other. just because now we have CITIZENSHIP to replace religion doesnt mean were better..
When the finger points to the sun, the idiot stares at the finger
madbcc 4 years ago
and you guys are so f*** stupid sometimes... do you disapprove venice, paris and london too???? cause you know all those buildings were builted at the expense of the poor enslaved europeans... LOL get a clue
madbcc 4 years ago
haha theres that power of information thing.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
lol... i just got sooo irritated by these irresponsible unaware just ignorant guys who do think they know it all..
madbcc 4 years ago
Unfortunate how people play right into things. There are times in life when thinking with the heart suits us. This is not one of them. lol. Especially for those who tend to be followers.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
lol... well ive seen the most incredible videos on islam made by atheist fundamentalists (as are most atheists on yt...they dont even realiize theyre even more blind than religious people) that it just made me sick... and well my land did use to be islamic.. portugal actually was born from the "fight with islam", the reconquest. we must respect evryone i believe, cause were all equal
madbcc 4 years ago
Most atheist I see are angry at religon. Although I believe in God, I dont like what religon has become either. In my opinion when Doghma chases Kharma, Kharma runs over Doghma. This subject leads me toward corruption as well. haha. Wicked world. lol! seriously though. Just another oppotunity for abuse.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
i truly believe that the horros we see in the muslim world have little to do with islam in itself and much with social (earthly) dynamics. i beleieve the conflicts we see in the muslim world are only one type of "globalization times" conflicts among many many many others.
but well, just wanted to make a point, like, im supposed to believe that Islam is a shitty religion just cause some guy on YT says so?!
madbcc 4 years ago
yes, youre totally right. im an atheist, im absolutely choor there is no God anywhere else than in our collective minds. however, i believe that "our collective minds" are worth some respect. i dont believe that it is religion that makes people do bad things, i believe people make themselves do bad things. religion is just a conceptual, social system invented by human groups in order to be abble to live together according to commonly accepted rules.
madbcc 4 years ago
All the bad things in religion have come from someone abusing their power. Spiritual connectivity has nothing to do with worldly power. It's a personal theme. This realization allows me to accept your atheism without feeling the need to bend your view to my will.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
I could go to great lengths on the subject and I'm sure you've probably heard it all. lol. I can still love you as a fellow human being. This is where almost all religon goes wrong. Trying to tend someone elses house we leave ours empty. How's school BTW?
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
lol:) exactly... all bad things in religion have to do with wordly power, i totally agree. and it is a personal theme. thanks:) i wont try to convert you to atheism either... and well im a strange atheist, i go to church every wekk with my grandmother lol... respect, much respect. always. cause we must be aware of our ignorance, i believe :)
madbcc 4 years ago
Catholic church I assume. School?
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
roman catholic church... no schools in portuguese catholic church... youre a catholic too????? its like a small minority in america isnt it??? cause here its like 99.99% of the population... in fact i only learned that there were "protestants" in like the tenth grade... lol
madbcc 4 years ago
hehe. no. I meant how is school for you? hehe. last we talked you said you were very busy. no, like i said, no religion for me thanks. Catholosism especially! no offense. lol.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
God bless the Pope...LOL oh my oh my how i understand you... but well it is my culture lol not much i can do
madbcc 4 years ago
You can take the beautiful parts of it you want and leave what you dont. Bringing something entirely new into the world. That's what life's all about.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
Very nice allegory, (that thing that gives us some kind of advantage when we have it... uh..hmm...uhmm...oh yeah information!!!) lol, that`s clever.
I hope you don`t mind me quoting you from time to time.
tomliordos 4 years ago
ok, heres one "the secret of life is no secret at all" hehe but now im quoting someone else. peace.
Melchesdikomega6669 4 years ago
lol. here`s another quote
" I`VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM MY MISTAKES, I`M THINKING OF MAKING SOME MORE"!
tomliordos 4 years ago