Joe Z was a COMPLETE maestro in this regard. Wayne IS still in his way, right. And Jaco did that - and so did INGRID, right. But so does the kids, Mary (remember "Just daddy to me"?), John, Felix and Julius. Different vibes now, get it? By the way Vic. (Re)Found some great pics from first time you and I met in my rehearsal room in 83. Will try and scan them and post them to you during spring. Best wishes for the Christmas and New Year. Much love and respect, bro'! P =;o)
I think the world will never have another "Jaco" - nor do we need one.He WAS and IS. It's just different times now, right. And maybe we are all getting older.... I believe something else is gonna happen, because we already GOT the message from JP. Which was just as much about wisdom, manic depression, the ability to communicate on other levels (like body language) and vibrations.
I stil, believe a lot of other great musicians deserve credit for this; Bobby Thomas Jr, Othello Mollineaux and Bob Minzer among them. Erskine, Hancock, Graves, DeJohnette and Toots too! And Pete Yanilos!!! But there are so many other bass cats out there who influenced a whole generation, right. Like yourself, Verdine White, Richard Bona, Etienne MBappe, Anthony Jackson, Abraham Laboriel, Marcus Miller, Sharay Reed and probably hundred others. I
I personally think that he was at his absolute best in this concert, I have the actual DVD and this whole performance just blows my mind away, it really is in a league of its own if you know other Jaco live material, thats the only way I can make that comment but like I said, thats just in my opinion
Mintzer's stretches are an amazing example of instant creation/playing in the moment! His use of space and phrasing equaled only by improvisors the likes of Tristano, Warne Marsh, and Lee Konitz, all of his phrases so cohesively sequential that it's as though the spaces are NOTES in between the phrases that he heard, but didn't play! The ultimate way to improvise, a ceaseless thread of one long thread, start to finish.
@zivley Ziv, search Keith Jarrett, "All the Things You Are" and "Koln Concert", ANYTHING by Denny Zeitlen (or Zeitlin as it is sometimes spelled), Brecker Brothers, "Some Skunk Funk Live - Barcelona" (Michael's solo), ANYTHING by Lennie Tristano, Martial Solal Trio - On Green Dolphin Street [1965], Wes Montgomery - Blue Monk - 1965 (Solal's solo at 3:37 on)..and you will hear the same type of ultra-rare "playing totally in the moment" that Mintzer acheives here!
I dug on all the stuff you recommended, and it's all amazing, the way you described it, I can only say I envy those guys for being able to create on the fly such wonderful music!
@zivley You know, as much the masters that Jaco, Mintzer and Randy are, equally impressive are the steel drums on this session! Haven't heard anything quite like that played on that instrument before.
@Virtuosic1 Neither did I, I'm totally amazed, I never really understood how exactly one can play ANYTHING on that instrument, it seems totally difficult to learn to play on steel drum, so now, to think this tune always gave me hard time on the sax, I can't imagine how does he play it flawlessly on the steel drums!
@Hamporkcheese please don't say "noob", "epic fail", "baby mama", or anything of the like here. I am concentrating on the enjoyment of great music that existed long before any of that "uber lame" language existed. Didn't your mom tell you it was time for bed already?
Any bassist, in any style has to appreciate this guy. I may be in a metal band, and in this band play with a pick and the bass low, but when I really want to groove, ditch the pick, and the bass comes up. This guy is the definition of amazing.
I agree with Vicslic!! Even IF he was a lil diminished mentally, it says something for him to still be 10 times more killin than a lot of "lucid" cats walkin round here trying to play today! The dude had a gift that few of us will ever get to experience but thank God we can appreciate what was left to us and not get carried away with criticism and $&*% measuring! I appreciate having great players like Jaco and Victor to learn from and grow from as well! Well said Vicslic! Keep on doin it bros!
Jaco was just not in his best mental condition at this time.And still has more FEELNG ,SOUL and NATURAL chops than most cats TRYING to play his style..Overrated?I was there and believe me when he was IN his best mental shape he was devastating! Victor Bailey
@vicslic Wow! Mr. Bailey! It's an honor! It was as great to read your post as it was to see this clip. Thank you! There you go everybody, that's some from-the-horse's-mouth shit, right there... now shhh, let's all listen to the music. Oh, and everybody that reads this should probably go do a search for Victor Bailey, then maybe practice some.
@vicslic Having known Jaco personally since 76 I can only say I TOTALLY agree with you Vic. I shared many happy moments with him from 76 until 83 - and a LOT happened during those years. When he was both IN and ON on the same time he was GREAT. To me, personally, he topped in 76-78. Most of what came after that was not together in the same sense and extent even thóugh all the WoM things were totally great and changed the "Sounds of Everglades" forever.
@pianopro9 now i know. for a FACT. that your full of shit... haha come on man, dont say stupid shit on the internet, it proves you had a bad education...
@pianopro9 Given all the stupid comments I read on You Tube how was I to know that? A smiley face would be nice. I have seen people make dumber comments than yours and be completely serious about it. Enough said.
Mintzer is the star of this show, that's evident. Brecker's stretches are the same as on any other of his Donna Lee choruses, almost note for note at times! Mintzer is pure creation, playing some of the slickest stretches on Earth, right in the fucking moment.. instant composition, like Warne Marsh!. Jaco's solo isn't one of his best, though his comping is always great.
his soloing actually shows some maturity - giving a solo room to breathe is very important, and jaco is just relaxing / is at ease with the changes and is 'saying' what he want to and needs to say. this was by no means the peak of his playing abilities, but the fire isn't completely out at this point...
I am gonna take a break from this. I just can't belieev the losers who post their videos here that have absolutely no talent. They need to learn from the real pros.
My boy got a wind breaker from the Detroit Red Wings on....damn, damn, damn.
And for you guys buying $2,000 8 string basses and $4,000 rigs to play them through, Jaco has a beat up J, and playing through Acoustic amps...ha, ha..keep giving Guitar Center your money
@yogsothoth2099 If you do play stand, playing the bass is quite phisically demanding, of course depends on how much your bass weights. Now what is really really demanding is playing the Double Bass, to play a 13th is such a jump through the whole fingerboard. I started playing the saxophone, and can assure you it's not 10% phiysically demanding as the double bass.
I think most people these days will learn the melody to this tune but never be a bassist as well... I bet any shredding bassist can't walk the bass...
LOL I love how Jaco just decides to throw in the DG harmonics in weird places, like at 0:21... it is reckless, kind of like how Eddie Van Halen will just squeal a harmonic out whenever he wants, even if it doesn't work that well over the changes... (technically this does because it's an Fm chord I think right? but it doesn't sound right LOL)
Jaco did just fine on the head and walking the chord changes in the solo section (anyone notice 1,6,2,5 involved?), but when he played his solo it was just a bunch of takes and tinkering with volume controls. He obviously knew where he was at in the solo section, but there was no theme to it. Definitely a half full half empty gig by the world's greatest player (no bad thoughts on my part about Jaco, He's my #1 inspiration)
Jaco transcends the technique! It's unlike anyone else... you just can't compare. It's like comparing Miles to Vizzuitti... Metheny to DiMiola... etc. Technique can be either your boss or your bitch.
I'm a bass player and I like Jaco, respect and adore is more correct. I can't listen to jazz, it doesn't get me in the mood and I find it very tiring, but who, including me, can deny that musicians of the caliber of Jaco, Miller, Clarke and so on are not to be respected. I really stand in awe and learn many things from their playing style and musicality. Music is a matter of taste, but greatness is there for everyone to recognize, like it or not.
I went to a jazz workshop at the university of North Carolina at Wilmington last summer, the bass instructor for the week was Steve Bailey. No doubt he is an unbelievable musician you put it into terms that describe him the best. It was an awesome experience, the Percussion instructor was Joe Chambers. Great week
@lillbern two great players. You certainly picked the right workshop to attend! Ironically, on youtube bass videos Wooten is usually lauded as "vastly superior" to Bailey by people who have very littlle understanding of musicianship other than to count how many notes a bass player can shoehorn into 4 beats, without even considering what those notes are and their musical relationship to each other and the whole, fretboard athleticism being their sole criteria for evaluation!
@Whatisthescore There's alot more to virstuosity than the amount of notes that can be shoehorned into a bar, and believe me, I can shorhorn as many notes into a bar as anyone on the planet (my video is under Virtuosic1 if you doubt me). The content is as important as the amount of notes, and Wooten's content is all snap, crackle, and pop. Tricks, riffs, practiced patterns, that change little from tune to tune, if you can call them that. More..
@Whatisthescore Problem is that when ALL YOU HAVE is finger athleticism, and the content is sorely lacking, that virtuosity is of little consequence, as in Wooten's case and all of his brothers. It's all a race to the Wooten's without regard to content. They're playing is 100% patterns, riffs, sequences, and lie easily within the hand for their respective instrument. The Wooten's are all nothing more than typists, typing the same thing over and over in a sad effort to increase their letter count
@Whatisthescore It's sad that you can't tell the difference between a consummate musician like Jaco and nothing more than an athlete, like Wooten. The biggest difference is that Wooten is always thinking, "What can I play here, how can I fit the most notes possible into the next 8 bars, and of course, his TRAINED FINGERS find the necessary patterns. Watch Jaco carefully. LISTEN to him. Every note, comped or solo is perfect. It's perfect because they are the byproduct of his mind.. more
@Virtuosic1 Jaco HEARS the music as he is playing it. Every note, every nuance. Listening to Jaco, one gets the distinct impresion that even if he took his hands off of the bass, the music would still play, directly from his mind! Jaco is an INSTANT COMPOSER, always playing IN THE MOMENT. This is the highestlevel of state of mindset that a musician can attain, which is why his playing is NON-REPETIIVE. Jaco ALWAYS finds the perfect thing to play because his taste is impeccable and always heard.
imo, tone and rhythm are most important for good music. I can't stand Baileys tone, so I prefer Victor. Also, if you listen to more Wooten, you will hear that is able to convey much feeling into his music. He does play as you describe, but not all the time. There are an ample supply of recordings where Wooten isn't playing busily or is telling a fantastic story on his bass.
Anyway, back to the music. The amazing thing about Jaco vs. all that came after him, Wooten, Miller, etc., is that even his COMP is lyrical in nature, not just supportive. If you transcribe him start to finish, you'll find that his entire comp is more indicative of a very lyrical solo, as well as his solo! Not only does he lay down the pocket with the drummer beautifully, but his choice of notes while laying down this pocket are always beautifully lyrical....
.... typical of a lyrical soloist even though his pocket and statement of the underlying harmonic structure is absolutely gem perfect. Unlike all his bass progeny, the bottom never drops out, the pocket never loses the bottom end propulsion. None that came after him are able to do this quite in the same way, most sounding like they need a 2nd bass player to back them up! Of all after him, IMO Steve Bailey comes closest to this type of extreme bass musicianship.
Como me gusta el jazzz, en todos los instrumentos que toco siento una inclinaciona a tocarlo con el fell del jazz. Lo que pasa es que no es para todo el mundo, hay gente que no lo termina de comprender y por lo tanto no le gusta.
There are different types of jazz... and many different players and playing styles. It's hard to believe you can hate all jazz, but I can understand it not being your thing.
Better? Jaco and Wooten are like night and day. jaco was a bass player first and a technician second, not a wasted note or wasted space. Wooten is a guitarist that plays guitar on the bass. Slappin and poppin were initially an adjunct. An effect used by bass players. Now, guys like Wooten base their playing completely on slaps, crackles, and pops. All embellishment without substance. Fakery. Trickery. Technique for the sake of technique, not music.
One fact remains. Neither Wooten nor Jaco excell at improvising stretches on this straight ahead, be-bop style. For that, listen to Neils Pedersen!! Like listening to Bird or Diz on a bass when it comes time for solo choruses. Bailey fares better on his Donna Lee solo becaue his style for that solo was right out of Django, more relevant to the style of the tune, a far better fit than harmonically quartal based slaps and pops.
Great take. Too bad Brecker played for too long. Really like Mintzer's articulation. And Erskine's a top-notch drummer, unfortunately he's not coming out.
He said, «I don't think any instrument...», he just took the bass as an example, and I agree with him, every instrument has it's particularities. Saying that one who knows how to play clarinet knows how to play bass clarinet would be like saying that someone who plays piano knows how to play the harpsichord or organ.
Tbh, bass clarinet isn't really that hard. You just gotta know how to play a regular clarinet. And have a much looser ambesure than a regular clarinet
I wouldnt agree, I dont think any instrument can be classed not really hard. Take the bass being as this video has arguably the greatest bass player in it, people now a days seem to think the bass is easy cos most modern bassists stick to roots and octaves but u see how hard the shit Jaco played and i think ull find ur answer to wether or not its hard.
@liptakinator Nah mate playing music isnt hard its time consuming to be good at anything requires you to immerse your self in it and only focus on one thing mastering it (which ofc would take a lifetime) but I found that when I started playing bass things I found "hard" just required practise and if I told myself it wasnt hard it wasnt and I could play it like Donna Lee for example I saw the lead sheet and was like oh shit then I was just like Im gona play it and I did :)
agreed 100%, any instrument can be at any level, its how you wanna take it. Say drumming to AC/DC's back in black compared to taking Vigril Donatis place in his bands while he gets over a back ache.
@Tubz1990 I agree. An instrument is as hard as you make it. If you strive for playing mediocre music then of course it's easy. Strive to play the hardest music you can and then some...well then it becomes an entirely different deal.
Just because the bass is technically simpler than other instruments doesn't mean it is easy to play it well, even just roots and octaves. It is a subtle instrument: your time must be excellent, you have to lock with the drummer, you have to start and kill notes very accurately - then there are grace notes and almost imperceptible slides. Take a Paul McCartney track from Sgt Pepper onwards and play along with it. He''ll sound great, you'll sound crap and you won't know exactly why.
Anyone who says that bass is easy is either a non-musician or a bad one. Put a guitar player on bass and see how they do. They usually have plenty of technique, but the arse end usually falls out of the band. There is more to it than meets the tin ear.
@camcoop25 for one you should never kill notes they should ring for the correct duration and two ive been playing music for many years and no matter how much you think technique may affect the player or the music the groove is always the the first thing you should think about, after that comes technique, notes, rhythm, timing...etc Id recommend reading Victor Wooten's book "Music Lesson" it really opened my eyes to the different elements of music.
I agree with the groove bit, and this is the elusive thing most listeners don't notice. But not killing notes? What are you on about? Maybe I didn't explain it clearly. If you are locking into the drummer, you will at the most basic, start a note with the bass drum and kill it at the same instant as the snare - makes the snare drum jump out - and that in many cases is, as you say, "the correct duration". If you let it ring on, it sounds muddy. Spaces are as important as sounds.
@camcoop25 but really are you killing said note or are you playing it for a set duration, I agree that hooking in with your drummer is key but I've never liked the idea of killing notes, playing the sticcato or legato is a techinique but killing a note is just how you interpret the dynamic markings. Again not trying to spark an argument its just nice to find someone that acctually understands music and theory as opposed to all these kids going "hey im a bass player" though thats fine ofcourse :)
And not to be argumentative, but by way of demonstrating that miscommunication can take many forms, I have put in 35 years in public (paid) performance, with 30 years of that as a bass player and singer. 30 years ago, I spent three years at the Humber College School of Music and also completed a theory and arranging course at Berklee in Boston. This doesn't mean I am right in a given argument, but it does mean that I'm not stupid. I will check out the book you recommended, thanks.
@Tubz1990 Anyone who thinks a bass isn't hard has never raced a mack truck down a dirt bike path against a speedy bike . . . and won. The thickness of the strings, the sheer distance between notes is like no other instrument. It's hard, believe me.
Mintzer going through his llama phase.
vanderbiltsax 3 days ago
I believe this is called "not fucking around"...lol These dudes got up there and
"brought the game"...fuck I love this video...of coarse it makes me NEVER want to touch an instrument again...but...that's my own issue...lol
CountBoogie 1 month ago
Joe Z was a COMPLETE maestro in this regard. Wayne IS still in his way, right. And Jaco did that - and so did INGRID, right. But so does the kids, Mary (remember "Just daddy to me"?), John, Felix and Julius. Different vibes now, get it? By the way Vic. (Re)Found some great pics from first time you and I met in my rehearsal room in 83. Will try and scan them and post them to you during spring. Best wishes for the Christmas and New Year. Much love and respect, bro'! P =;o)
peterrahbek 1 month ago
I think the world will never have another "Jaco" - nor do we need one.He WAS and IS. It's just different times now, right. And maybe we are all getting older.... I believe something else is gonna happen, because we already GOT the message from JP. Which was just as much about wisdom, manic depression, the ability to communicate on other levels (like body language) and vibrations.
peterrahbek 1 month ago
I stil, believe a lot of other great musicians deserve credit for this; Bobby Thomas Jr, Othello Mollineaux and Bob Minzer among them. Erskine, Hancock, Graves, DeJohnette and Toots too! And Pete Yanilos!!! But there are so many other bass cats out there who influenced a whole generation, right. Like yourself, Verdine White, Richard Bona, Etienne MBappe, Anthony Jackson, Abraham Laboriel, Marcus Miller, Sharay Reed and probably hundred others. I
peterrahbek 1 month ago
the RE20 is the best mic of the universe
locobeis 1 month ago in playlist Jaco Pastorius
7:31 , I shat in my pants.
ptrLeGrand 1 month ago
Hey guys this isnt the full Donna Lee from this concert if you count the intro
Chomp0nThis 2 months ago
lol @ 2:11
DomestikMC 2 months ago
he is TOO fucked up
drugs are cool and all, but man it will NOT make you play better live
lunatheshiba 2 months ago
dude thats othello moleno on steel drums he plays almost anything like master jaco :D
vidhit999 2 months ago
I personally think that he was at his absolute best in this concert, I have the actual DVD and this whole performance just blows my mind away, it really is in a league of its own if you know other Jaco live material, thats the only way I can make that comment but like I said, thats just in my opinion
Chomp0nThis 3 months ago
"musicians"
i liked it xD
MorbosDevilGrinder 3 months ago 2
some nice shit
gleekflaglue6345789 3 months ago
If that unison part can be played in two octaves, I'm getting someone at school to learn that on the Bells or Xylophone.
Rizilo 3 months ago
Mintzer's stretches are an amazing example of instant creation/playing in the moment! His use of space and phrasing equaled only by improvisors the likes of Tristano, Warne Marsh, and Lee Konitz, all of his phrases so cohesively sequential that it's as though the spaces are NOTES in between the phrases that he heard, but didn't play! The ultimate way to improvise, a ceaseless thread of one long thread, start to finish.
Virtuosic1 4 months ago
@Virtuosic1 I think Mintzer is the best improviser I've ever heard, and you nailed it pretty well on your description!
zivley 4 months ago
@zivley Ziv, search Keith Jarrett, "All the Things You Are" and "Koln Concert", ANYTHING by Denny Zeitlen (or Zeitlin as it is sometimes spelled), Brecker Brothers, "Some Skunk Funk Live - Barcelona" (Michael's solo), ANYTHING by Lennie Tristano, Martial Solal Trio - On Green Dolphin Street [1965], Wes Montgomery - Blue Monk - 1965 (Solal's solo at 3:37 on)..and you will hear the same type of ultra-rare "playing totally in the moment" that Mintzer acheives here!
Virtuosic1 3 months ago
@Virtuosic1
I dug on all the stuff you recommended, and it's all amazing, the way you described it, I can only say I envy those guys for being able to create on the fly such wonderful music!
zivley 3 months ago
how the heck can that tune be played on steel drums?!?!?
zivley 4 months ago 16
@zivley You know, as much the masters that Jaco, Mintzer and Randy are, equally impressive are the steel drums on this session! Haven't heard anything quite like that played on that instrument before.
Virtuosic1 4 months ago
@Virtuosic1 Neither did I, I'm totally amazed, I never really understood how exactly one can play ANYTHING on that instrument, it seems totally difficult to learn to play on steel drum, so now, to think this tune always gave me hard time on the sax, I can't imagine how does he play it flawlessly on the steel drums!
zivley 4 months ago
@zivley by somebody who is not a noob....
Hamporkcheese 3 months ago
@Hamporkcheese please don't say "noob", "epic fail", "baby mama", or anything of the like here. I am concentrating on the enjoyment of great music that existed long before any of that "uber lame" language existed. Didn't your mom tell you it was time for bed already?
Splentaur 2 months ago
@zivley my exact thought too
mrstudes 2 months ago
@zivley Calypso!
BassmrDK 2 months ago
@BassmrDK Calypso? Sorry, didn't get that one...
zivley 2 months ago
@zivley What da hell... I was suppose to write something else... I don't get it neither haha
BassmrDK 2 months ago
Dang. I wonder if this is when Randy was playing on that 7c.
Gersanr21 4 months ago
Absolutely beautiful !!! Pastorius was really oustanding.
Thanks a lot
123must 5 months ago
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123must 5 months ago
right on vic
TheBassfresh 5 months ago
I didn't even see the drummer's face until 6 minutes in.. WHAT A MUSTACHE..
Rizilo 5 months ago
Jaco left a lot of important skill in the world of bass (Y)
RakaWiratama95 5 months ago
Any bassist, in any style has to appreciate this guy. I may be in a metal band, and in this band play with a pick and the bass low, but when I really want to groove, ditch the pick, and the bass comes up. This guy is the definition of amazing.
FluffyMuffina 5 months ago
I agree with Vicslic!! Even IF he was a lil diminished mentally, it says something for him to still be 10 times more killin than a lot of "lucid" cats walkin round here trying to play today! The dude had a gift that few of us will ever get to experience but thank God we can appreciate what was left to us and not get carried away with criticism and $&*% measuring! I appreciate having great players like Jaco and Victor to learn from and grow from as well! Well said Vicslic! Keep on doin it bros!
bayce3 6 months ago
Jazz, Funk, Punk, all piled into one. So freakin jealous of that guy. Just gotta respect it and move on.
Primussucks81 7 months ago
Looks like a regular Bb bass clarinet to me (with a pickup)
BassHeckelphone 7 months ago
is bob mintzer playing electric contra-alto clarinet??
eeeeman1 7 months ago
I'm never playing bass ever again
iLike2scream7 7 months ago 2
I remember the head being a little tighter than this :( Still awesome though!
gabrielaaron 8 months ago
Bob Mintzer is so good on Bass
joeman342 8 months ago
Is that Randy Brecker?
dannyinternetz 8 months ago
@dannyinternetz I was thinking the same thing too! xD
DerpyDackles42 8 months ago
@dannyinternetz Yes.
TheIzzysteve 7 months ago
@dannyinternetz I THOUGHT IT WAS MICHAEL BRECKER FROM THE BRECKER BROTHERS
boyboyduff 5 months ago
wow. steal drum, bass clarinet. this is cool
MSteinMusic 9 months ago
now i wanna learn donna lee on the steel drum at 0:08
bassfreak74 9 months ago
Jaco was just not in his best mental condition at this time.And still has more FEELNG ,SOUL and NATURAL chops than most cats TRYING to play his style..Overrated?I was there and believe me when he was IN his best mental shape he was devastating! Victor Bailey
vicslic 10 months ago 64
@vicslic Wow! Mr. Bailey! It's an honor! It was as great to read your post as it was to see this clip. Thank you! There you go everybody, that's some from-the-horse's-mouth shit, right there... now shhh, let's all listen to the music. Oh, and everybody that reads this should probably go do a search for Victor Bailey, then maybe practice some.
ExploratoryMusic 10 months ago
@vicslic Having known Jaco personally since 76 I can only say I TOTALLY agree with you Vic. I shared many happy moments with him from 76 until 83 - and a LOT happened during those years. When he was both IN and ON on the same time he was GREAT. To me, personally, he topped in 76-78. Most of what came after that was not together in the same sense and extent even thóugh all the WoM things were totally great and changed the "Sounds of Everglades" forever.
peterrahbek 1 month ago
The other musicians in this video are what makes it shine. Jaco, while good, is WAY overshadowed by the others.
louis20833 10 months ago
There is!! The legend!!!
007Pogo 10 months ago
in.cre.i.ble!
feralayo 11 months ago
DAMN look at that fingering at 1:00.
ThePiperPunk 11 months ago
Bob Mintzer is definitely the highlight here. Brecker barely played the head.
uncasist 11 months ago
@uncasist well, then listen again. That`s a kick ass group as a whole there!
teemingup 9 months ago
@uncasist You're right, I am not sure i saw/head this complete version.
uncasist 9 months ago
Jaco pastorius is just overrated, so what if he can do walking bass lines, the other musicians actually make the song sound good.
pianopro9 11 months ago
@pianopro9 Something tells me your an indian and very homosexual
ttehglassprisoner 11 months ago
@pianopro9 now i know. for a FACT. that your full of shit... haha come on man, dont say stupid shit on the internet, it proves you had a bad education...
ABKman 11 months ago
@ABKman
now i know for a FACT that your gullible since i was only posting that to actually get a reaction from someone, looks like it worked
pianopro9 11 months ago
@pianopro9 haha troll
addyr100 11 months ago
@pianopro9 You just made it known to the world how stupid you are!!!!
tbcass 5 months ago
@tbcass
You've made it known to the world how stupid YOU are as i was trolling. Enough said.
pianopro9 5 months ago
@pianopro9 Given all the stupid comments I read on You Tube how was I to know that? A smiley face would be nice. I have seen people make dumber comments than yours and be completely serious about it. Enough said.
tbcass 5 months ago
@tbcass
Read my response directly after which said, 'i was only posting that to get a reaction from someone'.
pianopro9 5 months ago
@pianopro9 Sorry I missed that.
tbcass 5 months ago
GUESS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FUCK YALL FROM HERE ILOVE YALL IMA CATCH UP W YOU IN A SECOND. F'RFEAL...NADDADAMEAN???
oliverlinda 1 year ago
bellissimo video, un grazie dal profondo del cuore a jcasino55
ascoltatoreful 1 year ago
There are trail blazers and trails- he was both.
MrCrowtown 1 year ago
@MrCrowtown
Very well put.
Musicenthusiasm 11 months ago
who is the bass clarinetist ?
ShmamanFire 1 year ago
Mintzer is the star of this show, that's evident. Brecker's stretches are the same as on any other of his Donna Lee choruses, almost note for note at times! Mintzer is pure creation, playing some of the slickest stretches on Earth, right in the fucking moment.. instant composition, like Warne Marsh!. Jaco's solo isn't one of his best, though his comping is always great.
Virtuosic1 1 year ago
Perfect tone of bass...every basist must know Jaco and learn of him...but is not the only one !
Franckworkforjesus 1 year ago
ALUCINANTE JACO Y LOS MUSICOS QUE LO ACOMPAÑAN...
chechoquena 1 year ago
his soloing actually shows some maturity - giving a solo room to breathe is very important, and jaco is just relaxing / is at ease with the changes and is 'saying' what he want to and needs to say. this was by no means the peak of his playing abilities, but the fire isn't completely out at this point...
joebassplayer 1 year ago
Klassischer Bebop auf Modal umgepulvert....
Saxojohn 1 year ago
I am gonna take a break from this. I just can't belieev the losers who post their videos here that have absolutely no talent. They need to learn from the real pros.
eddynaco 1 year ago
My boy got a wind breaker from the Detroit Red Wings on....damn, damn, damn.
And for you guys buying $2,000 8 string basses and $4,000 rigs to play them through, Jaco has a beat up J, and playing through Acoustic amps...ha, ha..keep giving Guitar Center your money
CoachG1000 1 year ago
@CoachG1000
his bass is worth like... 10,000 $ now haha. its crazy. Jaco was a fucking genius though... ill stick with my expensive instruments and rigs. :)
VanishingDigital 1 year ago
bass is not that physically demanding once you developed finger strength and proper position.Sax on the other hand , is really really demanding.
yogsothoth2099 1 year ago
@yogsothoth2099 If you do play stand, playing the bass is quite phisically demanding, of course depends on how much your bass weights. Now what is really really demanding is playing the Double Bass, to play a 13th is such a jump through the whole fingerboard. I started playing the saxophone, and can assure you it's not 10% phiysically demanding as the double bass.
renanmusic 1 year ago
I have one problem with this video. Jaco is not loud enough
DoesLifeSuck 1 year ago
I think most people these days will learn the melody to this tune but never be a bassist as well... I bet any shredding bassist can't walk the bass...
FloydBlueElgar 1 year ago
LOL I love how Jaco just decides to throw in the DG harmonics in weird places, like at 0:21... it is reckless, kind of like how Eddie Van Halen will just squeal a harmonic out whenever he wants, even if it doesn't work that well over the changes... (technically this does because it's an Fm chord I think right? but it doesn't sound right LOL)
jazzpsalti 1 year ago
I didn't know Doctor Who also played the saxophone! :P
put1t1nh 1 year ago 2
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this should have the most views on youtube.
MchammerandJapenese1 1 year ago
Jaco lives!
GMD825 1 year ago
people who think bass is an easy instrument must see this video,and i like to see their faces!
faisalfarissi 1 year ago
mario is a drummer?
CAweaponreviews 1 year ago
I would consider selling my soul to play half as good on bass....
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Pastorius333 1 year ago 11
kinda 32th on tube )))))
tobto1 1 year ago
Absolutely amazing....these cats could play!
JByrd029 1 year ago
haha the trumpet player kinda looks like george carlin.... JACO RULES!!!!
artamis3 1 year ago
That sax sound is neat!
sergeeo 1 year ago
@sergeeo Its a bass clarinet
BenRodenburg 1 year ago
1:00
beeueuuuuuuu
liptakinator 1 year ago 32
@liptakinator lol, i love the fretless sound. esp. the slides have such a whining sound like "myeeeh, myaaah, whaeeh"
aakkoin 9 months ago
Jaco did just fine on the head and walking the chord changes in the solo section (anyone notice 1,6,2,5 involved?), but when he played his solo it was just a bunch of takes and tinkering with volume controls. He obviously knew where he was at in the solo section, but there was no theme to it. Definitely a half full half empty gig by the world's greatest player (no bad thoughts on my part about Jaco, He's my #1 inspiration)
pchelpdave 1 year ago
i love the drummer's shirt
woggleboggle 1 year ago
Oh christ Brecker, could you just get away a litlle bit from modal sometime??
CaptainJazz92 1 year ago 2
jaco pastorius, bob mintzer, and the trumpet player (i believe the trumpet player may be Chuck Findley) are really, really good
chapanese96 1 year ago
@chapanese96 no, the trumpet is randy brecker.
futureNFL2 1 year ago
i LOVE his walking bass line... Jaco is so SICKKKKKK
pageandplant1 1 year ago 2
i LOVE his walking bass line... Jaco is so SICKKKKKK
pageandplant1 1 year ago 3
incredible... I wish he had played more in his solo instead of messing with the tone controls...
dunce145 1 year ago
Great!
AAPS7 1 year ago
yesssssss !
laurentcece69 1 year ago
Jaco transcends the technique! It's unlike anyone else... you just can't compare. It's like comparing Miles to Vizzuitti... Metheny to DiMiola... etc. Technique can be either your boss or your bitch.
iocomposer 1 year ago 21
@iocomposer Could you just explain that comparison a bit, I didn't seem to understand it?
lukat93 1 year ago
@iocomposer Clearly technique was Jaco's bitch! ;P
DerpyDackles42 9 months ago
that bass clarinet was reaching some Dolphy levs on that solo
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
Are these Brecker - trumpet, Mintzer - bass clarinet, Ersikine - drums? Guessing.
drtz4890 1 year ago
Jaco is the most melodic bassist I've ever known
ChristianHandoyo 1 year ago
@ChristianHandoyo mingus is pretty good too
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
Let me be the 60th person to give this video a 5-star rating !
ReneAristyo 1 year ago 2
Yep, guter Bassist :-)
Hellisokornot 2 years ago
If you're looking for "the Truth" Check out Roberto Vally...
concernedconch 2 years ago
I'm a bass player and I like Jaco, respect and adore is more correct. I can't listen to jazz, it doesn't get me in the mood and I find it very tiring, but who, including me, can deny that musicians of the caliber of Jaco, Miller, Clarke and so on are not to be respected. I really stand in awe and learn many things from their playing style and musicality. Music is a matter of taste, but greatness is there for everyone to recognize, like it or not.
sirdrakho 2 years ago 2
@sirdrakho you wouldn't get so tired if you practiced more
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
I find jazz tiring not in the actual meaning, but in a metaphorical way. I get headaches after 20 minutes of jazz.
sirdrakho 1 year ago
@sirdrakho There are all sorts of kinds of jazz you could try that are more easily palpable than Jaco/Brecker. You should try some Count Basie.
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Virtuosic1
I went to a jazz workshop at the university of North Carolina at Wilmington last summer, the bass instructor for the week was Steve Bailey. No doubt he is an unbelievable musician you put it into terms that describe him the best. It was an awesome experience, the Percussion instructor was Joe Chambers. Great week
lillbern 2 years ago
@lillbern two great players. You certainly picked the right workshop to attend! Ironically, on youtube bass videos Wooten is usually lauded as "vastly superior" to Bailey by people who have very littlle understanding of musicianship other than to count how many notes a bass player can shoehorn into 4 beats, without even considering what those notes are and their musical relationship to each other and the whole, fretboard athleticism being their sole criteria for evaluation!
Virtuosic1 2 years ago 2
@Virtuosic1 how deliciously ironic your name is Virtuosic1 and yet you downplay purely 'vurtuosic' non-musical players like Wooten! Delicious.
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Whatisthescore There's alot more to virstuosity than the amount of notes that can be shoehorned into a bar, and believe me, I can shorhorn as many notes into a bar as anyone on the planet (my video is under Virtuosic1 if you doubt me). The content is as important as the amount of notes, and Wooten's content is all snap, crackle, and pop. Tricks, riffs, practiced patterns, that change little from tune to tune, if you can call them that. More..
Virtuosic1 1 year ago
@Virtuosic1 absolutely. I totally agree.
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Virtuosic1 wow great playing in that video..were you improvising that? if so ur the real deal
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Whatisthescore Problem is that when ALL YOU HAVE is finger athleticism, and the content is sorely lacking, that virtuosity is of little consequence, as in Wooten's case and all of his brothers. It's all a race to the Wooten's without regard to content. They're playing is 100% patterns, riffs, sequences, and lie easily within the hand for their respective instrument. The Wooten's are all nothing more than typists, typing the same thing over and over in a sad effort to increase their letter count
Virtuosic1 1 year ago
@Whatisthescore It's sad that you can't tell the difference between a consummate musician like Jaco and nothing more than an athlete, like Wooten. The biggest difference is that Wooten is always thinking, "What can I play here, how can I fit the most notes possible into the next 8 bars, and of course, his TRAINED FINGERS find the necessary patterns. Watch Jaco carefully. LISTEN to him. Every note, comped or solo is perfect. It's perfect because they are the byproduct of his mind.. more
Virtuosic1 1 year ago
@Virtuosic1 Jaco HEARS the music as he is playing it. Every note, every nuance. Listening to Jaco, one gets the distinct impresion that even if he took his hands off of the bass, the music would still play, directly from his mind! Jaco is an INSTANT COMPOSER, always playing IN THE MOMENT. This is the highestlevel of state of mindset that a musician can attain, which is why his playing is NON-REPETIIVE. Jaco ALWAYS finds the perfect thing to play because his taste is impeccable and always heard.
Virtuosic1 1 year ago 2
imo, tone and rhythm are most important for good music. I can't stand Baileys tone, so I prefer Victor. Also, if you listen to more Wooten, you will hear that is able to convey much feeling into his music. He does play as you describe, but not all the time. There are an ample supply of recordings where Wooten isn't playing busily or is telling a fantastic story on his bass.
potatomasta 1 year ago
Anyway, back to the music. The amazing thing about Jaco vs. all that came after him, Wooten, Miller, etc., is that even his COMP is lyrical in nature, not just supportive. If you transcribe him start to finish, you'll find that his entire comp is more indicative of a very lyrical solo, as well as his solo! Not only does he lay down the pocket with the drummer beautifully, but his choice of notes while laying down this pocket are always beautifully lyrical....
Virtuosic1 2 years ago
.... typical of a lyrical soloist even though his pocket and statement of the underlying harmonic structure is absolutely gem perfect. Unlike all his bass progeny, the bottom never drops out, the pocket never loses the bottom end propulsion. None that came after him are able to do this quite in the same way, most sounding like they need a 2nd bass player to back them up! Of all after him, IMO Steve Bailey comes closest to this type of extreme bass musicianship.
Virtuosic1 2 years ago
Como me gusta el jazzz, en todos los instrumentos que toco siento una inclinaciona a tocarlo con el fell del jazz. Lo que pasa es que no es para todo el mundo, hay gente que no lo termina de comprender y por lo tanto no le gusta.
asdlkfjghklawuieg 2 years ago
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I don't know why but I just hate jazz. It makes me iritated.
GRABA85 2 years ago
@GRABA85
There are different types of jazz... and many different players and playing styles. It's hard to believe you can hate all jazz, but I can understand it not being your thing.
wolffrankenstein 2 years ago 24
@GRABA85 Maybe if you understood jazz you wouldn't be so ignorant
, therefore intolerant?
Virtuosic1 2 years ago
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I'm not intolerant to jazz. I just don't like it. It's not that I want to ban it. Come on.
GRABA85 2 years ago
@GRABA85 Your own words were that you HATED IT and it irritates you. You come on there, you! 8O)
Virtuosic1 2 years ago
@GRABA85
C'mon, he's in the total right of
not like it
Zaul2410 2 years ago
It seems that what happens improvisationally with experienced professionals comes down to how much they care.
jamssmith 2 years ago
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victor wooten does it better with steve bailey
Rocker095150 2 years ago
Better? Jaco and Wooten are like night and day. jaco was a bass player first and a technician second, not a wasted note or wasted space. Wooten is a guitarist that plays guitar on the bass. Slappin and poppin were initially an adjunct. An effect used by bass players. Now, guys like Wooten base their playing completely on slaps, crackles, and pops. All embellishment without substance. Fakery. Trickery. Technique for the sake of technique, not music.
Virtuosic1 2 years ago 3
One fact remains. Neither Wooten nor Jaco excell at improvising stretches on this straight ahead, be-bop style. For that, listen to Neils Pedersen!! Like listening to Bird or Diz on a bass when it comes time for solo choruses. Bailey fares better on his Donna Lee solo becaue his style for that solo was right out of Django, more relevant to the style of the tune, a far better fit than harmonically quartal based slaps and pops.
Virtuosic1 2 years ago 2
i agree to disagree
Rocker095150 2 years ago
Very well put! Couldn't have said it better myself.
NostalgicInsomniac 2 years ago
they just do it with their own style, neither worst nor better I think!
andrearro88 2 years ago
I wish Jaco's playing was more prominent for the melody, like in the original recording with the bass/bongo duet. Still great though.
spoofzilla 2 years ago
Great take. Too bad Brecker played for too long. Really like Mintzer's articulation. And Erskine's a top-notch drummer, unfortunately he's not coming out.
steigers 2 years ago 2
I agree. Brecker is usually good for two meaningful choruses, that which follows simply a rehash of those two choruses.
Virtuosic1 2 years ago
ass kicking babie ..yeah!~
PAF149 2 years ago
inspiration
TSchwarzendorfer 2 years ago
Live in Montreal!
tjc197 2 years ago
Bob Mintzer on Bass Clari. Nice!
tjc197 2 years ago 2
I wasn't talking about a bass guitar. I was talking about a bass CLARINET. Big difference buddy.
TheMilfman7 2 years ago
He said, «I don't think any instrument...», he just took the bass as an example, and I agree with him, every instrument has it's particularities. Saying that one who knows how to play clarinet knows how to play bass clarinet would be like saying that someone who plays piano knows how to play the harpsichord or organ.
guitareluver 2 years ago
Tbh, bass clarinet isn't really that hard. You just gotta know how to play a regular clarinet. And have a much looser ambesure than a regular clarinet
TheMilfman7 2 years ago
I wouldnt agree, I dont think any instrument can be classed not really hard. Take the bass being as this video has arguably the greatest bass player in it, people now a days seem to think the bass is easy cos most modern bassists stick to roots and octaves but u see how hard the shit Jaco played and i think ull find ur answer to wether or not its hard.
Tubz1990 2 years ago 37
@Tubz1990 An instrument is just as hard as you want to make it
liptakinator 1 year ago 2
@liptakinator Nah mate playing music isnt hard its time consuming to be good at anything requires you to immerse your self in it and only focus on one thing mastering it (which ofc would take a lifetime) but I found that when I started playing bass things I found "hard" just required practise and if I told myself it wasnt hard it wasnt and I could play it like Donna Lee for example I saw the lead sheet and was like oh shit then I was just like Im gona play it and I did :)
Tubz1990 1 year ago
@Tubz1990 same happened with me.... it's just about focusing and putting your mind and strength to get a goal accomplished.
freekazoid8489 1 year ago
@Tubz1990 easy to play hard to master .know what you mean .nice comment .
auntygomez 1 year ago
@Tubz1990 ...It's as easy or as hard as you make it, that applies to any much any instrument
itachi456789 1 year ago
@Tubz1990
agreed 100%, any instrument can be at any level, its how you wanna take it. Say drumming to AC/DC's back in black compared to taking Vigril Donatis place in his bands while he gets over a back ache.
ContempStudY2 1 year ago
@Tubz1990 I agree. An instrument is as hard as you make it. If you strive for playing mediocre music then of course it's easy. Strive to play the hardest music you can and then some...well then it becomes an entirely different deal.
skater15153 1 year ago
@Tubz1990
Just because the bass is technically simpler than other instruments doesn't mean it is easy to play it well, even just roots and octaves. It is a subtle instrument: your time must be excellent, you have to lock with the drummer, you have to start and kill notes very accurately - then there are grace notes and almost imperceptible slides. Take a Paul McCartney track from Sgt Pepper onwards and play along with it. He''ll sound great, you'll sound crap and you won't know exactly why.
camcoop25 1 year ago
@camcoop25
Anyone who says that bass is easy is either a non-musician or a bad one. Put a guitar player on bass and see how they do. They usually have plenty of technique, but the arse end usually falls out of the band. There is more to it than meets the tin ear.
camcoop25 1 year ago
@camcoop25 for one you should never kill notes they should ring for the correct duration and two ive been playing music for many years and no matter how much you think technique may affect the player or the music the groove is always the the first thing you should think about, after that comes technique, notes, rhythm, timing...etc Id recommend reading Victor Wooten's book "Music Lesson" it really opened my eyes to the different elements of music.
Tubz1990 1 year ago
@Tubz1990
I agree with the groove bit, and this is the elusive thing most listeners don't notice. But not killing notes? What are you on about? Maybe I didn't explain it clearly. If you are locking into the drummer, you will at the most basic, start a note with the bass drum and kill it at the same instant as the snare - makes the snare drum jump out - and that in many cases is, as you say, "the correct duration". If you let it ring on, it sounds muddy. Spaces are as important as sounds.
camcoop25 1 year ago
@camcoop25 but really are you killing said note or are you playing it for a set duration, I agree that hooking in with your drummer is key but I've never liked the idea of killing notes, playing the sticcato or legato is a techinique but killing a note is just how you interpret the dynamic markings. Again not trying to spark an argument its just nice to find someone that acctually understands music and theory as opposed to all these kids going "hey im a bass player" though thats fine ofcourse :)
Tubz1990 1 year ago
@Tubz1990
And not to be argumentative, but by way of demonstrating that miscommunication can take many forms, I have put in 35 years in public (paid) performance, with 30 years of that as a bass player and singer. 30 years ago, I spent three years at the Humber College School of Music and also completed a theory and arranging course at Berklee in Boston. This doesn't mean I am right in a given argument, but it does mean that I'm not stupid. I will check out the book you recommended, thanks.
camcoop25 1 year ago
your dumb
alexdelarge66 1 year ago
@alexdelarge66
Maybe so, but I know how to spell the word "you're" - and the word "asshole"
camcoop25 1 year ago
@Tubz1990 Anyone who thinks a bass isn't hard has never raced a mack truck down a dirt bike path against a speedy bike . . . and won. The thickness of the strings, the sheer distance between notes is like no other instrument. It's hard, believe me.
jrd20x 1 year ago