Prince had never bleached his skin it's called being tan from the sun at times and when u stay out of the sun of course its makes u lighter it's not like his skin was ever white lol he just really light skin black man mixed and why would he need to bleach him self and he is already super light lol!
This is 94 East (named after Interstate 94). Formed by Pepe Willie, he enlisted Prince and André Cymone into the band. Prince wrote 'Just Another Sucker' and performed on it too as he was in the band. Then Prince went off and wrote his first album and the rest is history. 94 East split and the recordings were released numerous times across the world through various labels. So this is Prince with 94 East before he became a star. So there :P
That is sooooooo stupid. Look, I'm light skinned, I have light brown eyes and curly hair and there is NO QUESTION that I am a BLACK MAN!!!!
If you would actually look at the world around you and step out of the box for a second, you'll see that black people are a very diverse population ranging from the darkest to the fairest skin tones. Unlike any other group, we cover the entire spectrum.
That's real talk. Learn something, or like the song says "you're just another sucker!"
@joskilove Thanks for speaking sense. It's puzzling, this apparent need for people to label him as mixed and pointing to his skin tone to prove it. African Americans vary in skin tone to very fair to very dark. Fan sites that have studied his life extensively acknowledge this, but resistance to this truth persists. But WHY, if it's really about the music? Purple Rain portrayed his parents as white and black to reach a wider audience because not many whites went to see movies with Black leads.
@MySoulSanctuary, I know I'm 4 months late to this thread, but I had to reply. Prince himself (and his manager, Charlie Moon at the time) is to blame for this story. When he was shopping his demo around in '76, he was 18. It was amazing enough that this kid who was barely out of high school wrote, produced, engineered and performed all music on his music. But this wasn't enough. They told the labels (and later, the press) that Prince was 16 and that he was half black.
@MySoulSanctuary, (cont) Then, when he had to put together his touring band, he tried to make it as varied as possible with both black musicians and white, men and women. And yeah, "Purple Rain" didn't do much to dispel the myth either.
1st -You're just another sucker if you think this is Prince. Fake! 2nd- Prince is a black man. Just because he's light skinned, it doesn't give people the right to make shit up. (He's this, He's that) you don't know. Have you seen pics. of him as a kid. He looks like any other black kid out there.
Its not prince singing so how can it sound liek prince when a girl is singing the song? And whats this half black non sense coming from, hes all black
@stylesjdog You obvioulsy don't know Prince music at all first of all this is prince singing falsetto, 2nd Prince obvioulsy has white in him, you say he is all black? DOes he look like wesley snipes or whoopi goldberg? NO, look at his very light skin, features and eye color
the deity thing is bullshit, look, a talented artist, no more no less. and if you study any artist you will hear a multitude of influences. it's not that difficult to suss them out, actually. frankly, he's a wonderful songwriter/performer who knows has to package himself.
I heard that prince neither sings this song nor wrote but basically just played an instrument for it. Lots of people are saying its someone else from east 94 who sings this, anyone know? It doesn't really sound like prince anyways
@Ediva, I know what I saw when I saw prince in concert and in his early works. In Kiss video Prince is Michael Jackson WHITE, he is whiter than the white women in the video! Compare that to his early works where his skin is light brown. He went from Colin powel light to white. He was skin bleaching like everyone else at that time
That is Prince he was singing falsetto this is his first album. I stll have it wrapped and all. I was 11 years old and this si the first album I ever bought. I bought one to save and onre to listen to. This is my favorite album by Prince.
@2010shanky Yes, this is an album that PRINCE played on, with a producer from Minneapolis named Pepe Willie. It wasn't Prince's album, but moreso like a compilation album that Pepe put together to help showcase Prince's talents. Reminds of some vintage old-school jams from the "I Wanna Be Your Lover" era. NICE! Thanks for posting!
In two hundred years, or two thousand years, Prince will be MUCH MORE popular and beloved than even NOW...the true CULT of PRINCE has not even begun yet friends! He will be something akin to a Jesus or Buddha figure in the hundreds of years to come because NOBODY will EVER come close in the future to this music, to this level of spritual expression and truth in music...WE will be the people who actually saw him play and got to be part of it...think about it. It's really, really deep.
it was actually called the battle for the king of punk funk, with prince and rick james,he tore my boy rick a new asshole.and seeing rick james in interviews after that tour was funny as hell cause he called prince everyname in the book
I've never heard an argument about whether or not Shaq or Brad Pitt was racially mixed or not so the mere presence of such a debate about Prince is evidence that he is more mixed than the average black American........the problem here is that all the "one drop rule" supporters can only recognize extremes.
he was black, so is it any surprise that prince would go light. Not really. If you wanted to sell records pre 1990s the whiter the more you sold or not put your picture on an album. Elvis, white, good but not the best, sold the most of any rock musician because of it. If James Brown or little richard or chuck berry or hendrix were white would have sold more than elvis. Rick James was succesful befre prince but he didn't whiten, thats why he never got a movie
@stylesjdog when prince 1st came out i saw the afro and knew that he was black. i recall when he went on bandstand and hardly spoke to dick clark, i knew he was stuck up. i love his music up til about 1990. i never ever thought that he tried to play up to white folks. thats just where he came from, mn. i'm from chicago but i'm in portland, or now and i see alot of prince here
Prince family comes from Louisana, he is one of them creole black people basically beyonce types. Prince is obviously not white but has whitened his skin to sell more records and I don't blame him, worked for Jacko worked for him. the first 2 Prince albums didn't sell but when he whitens his skin and straightens that hair he gets a movie and dirty mind explodes him onto the scene. Recall before MJ no blacks were even on mtv and james brown was told not to put his face on CDs because
In america, is anyone actually all black or white? Seriously? Because my grandparents were orphans, and i look white (i should, half my skin's albino) but who knows, really? Where would you have to live, now, to be pure anything?
Flabbergasted I am by all this talk about his colour, for chrisake, listen to the music man or have something interesting to say about the song or the artist. Considering Prince and his repertoire, that shouldn't be too hard?
hahah, of course prince is black! hear how he talks, how he sings and how he plays the funk. plus he's awarded by the naacp. both his parents are black. he's just a light skinned brother, just like Ice T or al b sure or beyonce or moris day
So is this actually Prince singing? Im a litle confused here lol. It better be I bought the sonf off iTunes the other day and Ive been bumpin it constantly. If I find out it isnt even him im gonna be disappointed
So is this actually Prince singing? Im a litle confused here lol. It better be I bought the sonf off iTunes the other day and Ive been bumpin it constantly. If I find out it isnt even him im gonna be disappointed
what is all this stupid ass talk about Prince's ethnicity, anyone ever listened to controversy "I'm not black or white" listen to the man's words. his music is beyond race
@freedomgrooves he does not say I'm not black or white in controversy he asks the question " am i black or white am i straight or gay." for the record his biological mom is white and his dad is black. he was raised by his black father and black step-mom in the black part of minniapolis. ps this song is awsome!!!!!
In the 21st Century, we had this word - genius. What did it mean for someone above the mere label of genius? There was royalty, an astronomer, a mathematician, a philosopher, a composer, a performer, a priest, a relic, an icon, a deity. There was Prince, and surely no word that primitive, 21st Century man had described his intense creativity. Prince could have saved the world, but men did not listen.
lived in MPLS and loved the people as well as the environment. I don't know what was so intoxicating the beauty of the state or the people I met along the way. I would like to recapture that essence again.
@sixstring49 : Just a note, his hair was never nappy, it's always been straight. He just wore it in a frow because it was the style. Look at his childhood pictures. (Not that it matters but people make such a big deal about it.)
African American takes precedence over all others because as the law states it only takes 1 drop of negro blood for a person to be 100% negro.... look it up!!!!
@ceplea I agree with you. My mother is mixed with Irish and African-American. My grandmother is the same. My father is Haitian and I am brown-skinned. White people notice him as bi-racial. It is too bad the Italian race doesn't praise him. I guess 'cause he is part Black. They only recognize people like Mickey Mantle the baseball player, Rober Dinero, and Joe Pecci and many more. They hate to give credit to a black people. He is the color of music. Thank you. Love Prince.
Prince Rogers Nelson is African-American. Both of his parents were African-American although his mother, Mattie Shaw, had Italian and Jewish ancestors, as well.
@Mr1000Wolfsbane Why can't you write that Prince Rogers Nelson is Italian? Or Prince Rogers Nelson is Jewish. Why does the African-American race take prescidence over another. Is it eaier for the beholder to classify him as African-American for one's convenience? Just food for thought, I'm not trying to start an argument. I am from Haiti.
@princeskipper1 Because he identifies himself as so. Why would write someone as a different race, if they already told you otherwise? Besides, his dominate genetic traits are African American above all others.
@beast141 I hate to be a smart a--. Only dna can prove what % of race one is. Many people that look like him say they are African-American 'cause society says he is. They feel if he announces his other heritages blacks will say he's trying to be white. To be truthful, I'd like to be a bit lighter. I think black people may be a tiny bit jealous, 'cause they don't have both worlds that are physically evident. There are white people that have black great grandparents. They are white looking.
@princeskipper1 I just wanted to say that race is not based on biology. It has been proven that people of difference race are more genetically similar than people of the same race when you look at their mitochondrial DNA. Race is socially constructed. And I don't think race should matter, but to society it does and I can't change that.
@crayonfire Thank you for your input. Sometime I get race, ethnicity and other words in the same category mixed. It seems like you do understand my point. As far as race being socially constructed, that is what a person has learned in books. However in society people base their fact finding on appearance. Unfortunately that is the case. Many caucasions can quickly identify a black person by physical looks and that's society.
@princeskipper1 Im sorry to tell you . Prince is all african american , he often lied about his heritage cause he admitted that its more interesting to be bi racial but he actually is NOT bi racial. that lie was replicated for the purpose of Purple rain. so Black people have a right to be proud of their own .
@ARMONI555 I do read what you are saying. You wroted that his parents have Jewish and Italian ancestry. Did you mean that because one of his parents are not completely white, that is why he is not bi-racial? Only dna can prove the percentage of race one has. His features and skin color are of another race. His hair is not completely course. Are you hating or do you really mean that? Look at him. My mother is bi-racial and says he is. She is Irish and Black.
@princeskipper1 honestly your reading waaay to deep into this most Black people a bi racial anyway , for instance my mother and father are black but i have light brown hair and hazel green eyes and light skin. this was due to the fact that my great grandfather was half white. these types of things are ramped in black dna . after all if we were all not biracial we would all look more africans. our ancestors. but i identify with being black so much more than biracial and certainly white.
@ARMONI555 Yes, I agree that most black people are bi-racial. Precisely the idea. Another example, Naomi Campbell, supermodel, her great grandmother is Chinese. Your last sentence, I not sure it was you who I wrote to. It just seemed as people wanted to characterize Prince as being just black, and he's not. Your point is understood. Thank you.
@princeskipper1 yeah but you are forgetting prince identifies with being black. and all races if you trace back far enough have some other race in there bloodline its quit common, i see a lot of half italian and half irish people in my neighborhood. my point stands prince is Black, even if there is some trait of another nationality in his dna. cause if that is the case that you think you cant call him black , well then there are no more black people cause we all have mixed dna . get me ?
@ARMONI555 I guess you are right, Prince is black. He knows this as well. Prince does seem to be around a lot of black people, if that makes any sense at all. For Prince to deny that he is black would make him look foolish. Well I guess I am being ridiculous. In my mind I like to make up excuses for Prince and put him on a pedistal. I've come down off my dilusions. I study him hard & see he is a person just like anyone else. Sorry for taking things out of context and being irrational.
@ApprxAm Truly an American tradition unfortunately. It's unfortunate that some folks seem to feel he must be "mixed" and not black in order for him to be this good and for people other than other blacks to like him. It really shouldn't matter.
Actually, Prince recorded this Album with a band called 94 East with Pepe Willie & Andre Cymone. Prince was about 16-18 Years old at the time. Him and Andre played as studio musicians for this project. Pepe Willie has great material.
Thanks for the answer but it is hard to believe that it was recorded in 1978. The sould is so 83 84 ! I'm a soul funk boogie collector and I have never seen a tune that is so aheadon its time! Really confusing !
@AlbinFromFrance I really love this track too, it is definitely ahead of its time. If you want to look into the chronology of Prince's early recordings check out this thread prince.org/msg/7/320445, or the book Dance Music Sex Romance by Per Nilsen from page 318 (it can be viewed in Google Books). Best regards, G
"...Six of the songs on this album were first released in 1986 on the Minneapolis Genius/94 East: The Historic Recordings album featuring Prince, Pepé Willie, and André Cymone...These six songs were taken from the original recordings, updated with additional instrumental parts and remixed..."
@ video jerk.. get outta dodge.. I was like 11 years old when I went to that concert here in Detroit... It was called the battle of the funk and Prince burst through this giant paper thing in leg warmers and some black drawers ,, needlesss to say he won lol
94 East was a Minneapolis-based funk group formed in December 1975 by Pepe Willie, the former husband of Prince's cousin. Willie was one of the people responsible for getting Prince's career up and running, and soon enlisted the talents of a young Prince and his childhood best friend, André Cymone. Prince composed one song for them, "Just Another Sucker". The band disbanded when Prince became a star in his own right. recordings were recorded between December 1975 and February 1979.[
@princeskipper1 No they are no cousins. They were friends. But Prince did live with the Andersons (Andre's mother Bernadette is mentioned in the O(+> album liner notes in the lyrics of ' the sacrifice of victor') for a while.
@VideoJerk1999 I read the Andrea Cymone and Morris Day are related to Prince and he worked with them. Andrea C. is the light-skinned one that plays the drums.
@princeskipper1 they are not related to Prince. (Dwayne Nelson and Chazz Smith are Prince's kin folk.) And I do not know if Andre was ever a drummer.
I am pretty sure Morris was the drummer. And when Prince took Flyte Tyme over he pretty much fired Alexander O'Neal as the vocalist and gave the job to morris (in exchange for (Morris' song 'Partyup'). But other than O'neal the TIme's lineup was the same as Flyte Tyme's.
@VideoJerk1999 I named my son after Chazz Smith, he is your age now. I did'nt say I brought it in 77 sweetie. I was a fan club vice pres. back in the day. U do know A lot about R.P nelson. Are u also from his hometown...?
@dollbaby4400 ahh, yes I do see I miss read what you posted. And I am not sure where you got my age but it is bit older than 22. No I am not from MPLS. I was just a freak for a long time. Not so much any more, the new album is not doing much for me. I rather jam For You (or the Prince tour cd I have been digging as of late) than any of his last few albums. (ecp 20Ten). But I do apologize for the "no you didn't"
@princeskipper1 in the 1976 time period Prince was working with Chris Moon on demos and some commercial projects. At about that same time Prince was also working with Pepe Willie (a cousin by marriage). (this song came out of the Pepe Willie sessions). Chris Moon said that some of the songs that ended up on For You (other than 'Soft and Wet') were part of said demos. Prince soon jumped ship to Owen Husney.
@VideoJerk1999 Okay wow that sounds like good information for me. Can you give me the site where I could read this for myself. Do you have any contact with Prince's family or friends? Are you of any relation to Prince? Where can I find his cologne, t-shirts, and especially symbol. I want to purchase them.
@princeskipper1 I have no contacts at all. I got all that from years of reading and a good memory. I am sure some of it is on the various wikis. I read the book called "A Pop Life" by dave hill and books by Alex Hahn and Per Nilsen (who i think is widely assumed to be the best).
I do not know of any official place to get his merchandise.
there is an unofficial web site called prince dot ORG. that would be a good place to meet fans and get info.
This was 77 - Before he had a major record deal...wasn't Andre C and either Morris or Alexander Oneil backing him or was this solo? Listen close and you can hear where the 80 groups took their sound from this - The System comes to mind right away. Don't Disturb This Groove...the 12 inch was a beast!
Thing that mad him great an this song points out is that though he is a great an proficient live instrumentalist he was smart enough to use technology like over dubbing drum machines looping efx etc...Where alot of musicians before him where hesitant and where either using all tech stuff or none at all, where he laid the blueprint for modern productions techniques by doing both live over programed stuff which keeps the the groove consistent, but also adds change and spontaneity.
@VideoJerk1999 Son u are my sons age 22 , This was my time Prince is around my age. I had all underground. Anythying Prince . PLEASEEEEE!!!!!!... u better ask somebody.!!!!!
@dollbaby4400 you are mistaken. This song was recorded in 76 76 but not release until 86. Prince first album came out April 7th 1978. Now you MIGHT have had FOR YOU in 78... but you did not have any prince anything in 1977.
@VideoJerk1999 I love you abbay a realk prince fan.. I was only 10 but I bought two of every album prince ever released and still have them all 32 years later... you bring the music and I'll bring the wine justa s long as were together
@2010shanky thanks, and it is cool i was listing to on of the few live versions of "just as long as we're together" from March 1980 when Prince was opening for Rick James.
electronic sounds were becoming more popular in the late 70's. First electronic sound used in a #1 single can be heard from The Supremes late 1960's hit 'Reflections'.
Prince had never bleached his skin it's called being tan from the sun at times and when u stay out of the sun of course its makes u lighter it's not like his skin was ever white lol he just really light skin black man mixed and why would he need to bleach him self and he is already super light lol!
envymeforgood 6 months ago
Love this. But i can't find the lyrics anywhere D:
afromaster02 6 months ago
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afromaster02 6 months ago
this is tight!!
this is a bit b4 i was born.
newpowersoul2005 6 months ago
thats one sick slap bass line......
NoRaces 7 months ago
Im late onthe debate.....Prince is BLACK !!!!!!!!!!!!! His momma name is Mattie!
2010shanky 7 months ago
@2010shanky and isnt his dad named john and sister name tika
treelover320 6 months ago in playlist Prince
@treelover320 tyka
FleshandBlood8 1 month ago
The first album I ever bought I was 10 years old.. for some reason I bouhgt two..still have the original unopened!
2010shanky 7 months ago in playlist Prince
@2010shanky unopened wow. hmmm i hear antique roadshow calling lol
hassan1814 2 months ago
i had this album on cassette, have heard this one in about 15 years!!! thanks for uploading.
jaysongamble1111 8 months ago
Bof, c'est juste de la musique mais sans aucun sens. du bruit....
zigzagzoug1 8 months ago
This song is addicting!!!
93lovelythang 8 months ago
wow i have this cd 94 east ft prince. good job
returnofdaking 8 months ago
@returnofdaking I do too!! the cd's great isn't it?=D
93lovelythang 8 months ago
@93lovelythang heck yeah I also like "If you see Me" too
returnofdaking 8 months ago
@returnofdaking Yea thats a nice track!! They have some VERY underrated songs on that album!!
93lovelythang 8 months ago
This is 94 East (named after Interstate 94). Formed by Pepe Willie, he enlisted Prince and André Cymone into the band. Prince wrote 'Just Another Sucker' and performed on it too as he was in the band. Then Prince went off and wrote his first album and the rest is history. 94 East split and the recordings were released numerous times across the world through various labels. So this is Prince with 94 East before he became a star. So there :P
Miyagi1982 9 months ago in playlist Prince 2
you guys, just so you know this is gayle chapmen singing in this song, he's from the revolution, he was one of the keyboards, but this isn't prince
Rolo8942 9 months ago
That is sooooooo stupid. Look, I'm light skinned, I have light brown eyes and curly hair and there is NO QUESTION that I am a BLACK MAN!!!!
If you would actually look at the world around you and step out of the box for a second, you'll see that black people are a very diverse population ranging from the darkest to the fairest skin tones. Unlike any other group, we cover the entire spectrum.
That's real talk. Learn something, or like the song says "you're just another sucker!"
joskilove 10 months ago
@joskilove Thanks for speaking sense. It's puzzling, this apparent need for people to label him as mixed and pointing to his skin tone to prove it. African Americans vary in skin tone to very fair to very dark. Fan sites that have studied his life extensively acknowledge this, but resistance to this truth persists. But WHY, if it's really about the music? Purple Rain portrayed his parents as white and black to reach a wider audience because not many whites went to see movies with Black leads.
MySoulSanctuary 9 months ago
@MySoulSanctuary, I know I'm 4 months late to this thread, but I had to reply. Prince himself (and his manager, Charlie Moon at the time) is to blame for this story. When he was shopping his demo around in '76, he was 18. It was amazing enough that this kid who was barely out of high school wrote, produced, engineered and performed all music on his music. But this wasn't enough. They told the labels (and later, the press) that Prince was 16 and that he was half black.
wackman2k1 4 months ago
@MySoulSanctuary, (cont) Then, when he had to put together his touring band, he tried to make it as varied as possible with both black musicians and white, men and women. And yeah, "Purple Rain" didn't do much to dispel the myth either.
wackman2k1 4 months ago
WOW!!! prince actually looks sexy in this picture..... or maybe 'm just a lil' horny rite now.
jenja718 10 months ago
1st -You're just another sucker if you think this is Prince. Fake! 2nd- Prince is a black man. Just because he's light skinned, it doesn't give people the right to make shit up. (He's this, He's that) you don't know. Have you seen pics. of him as a kid. He looks like any other black kid out there.
319hmh 10 months ago
Its not prince singing so how can it sound liek prince when a girl is singing the song? And whats this half black non sense coming from, hes all black
stylesjdog 10 months ago
@stylesjdog You obvioulsy don't know Prince music at all first of all this is prince singing falsetto, 2nd Prince obvioulsy has white in him, you say he is all black? DOes he look like wesley snipes or whoopi goldberg? NO, look at his very light skin, features and eye color
tiana1017 10 months ago
raise your hand if you actually found this cd!!!!
OscillatorCollective 10 months ago
@OscillatorCollective haha i did
breezizzle 10 months ago
He's so cute in that photo!
SwitchbladeKitty 11 months ago 2
@SwitchbladeKitty i know right
starbabylove100 11 months ago
muisc has no race creed or color its international. prince is a liitle bit of everything as far as im concernd.
starbabylove100 11 months ago 9
I have this album...
Poetryisalive 11 months ago
write sing play what cant he do
hardenernest5 11 months ago
Prince is black he will tell u that himself.
ogphatkat 11 months ago
@ogphatkat he's half black
breezizzle 10 months ago
the deity thing is bullshit, look, a talented artist, no more no less. and if you study any artist you will hear a multitude of influences. it's not that difficult to suss them out, actually. frankly, he's a wonderful songwriter/performer who knows has to package himself.
mezzetin1 11 months ago
Fuck with Prince's colour mother fuckers!!
Prince is gold in music, white for blacks and black for whites, he's a fuckin' rebel!!!
TheGroovestock 1 year ago
I heard that prince neither sings this song nor wrote but basically just played an instrument for it. Lots of people are saying its someone else from east 94 who sings this, anyone know? It doesn't really sound like prince anyways
stylesjdog 1 year ago
@stylesjdog of course it sounds like prince
breezizzle 10 months ago
@Ediva, I know what I saw when I saw prince in concert and in his early works. In Kiss video Prince is Michael Jackson WHITE, he is whiter than the white women in the video! Compare that to his early works where his skin is light brown. He went from Colin powel light to white. He was skin bleaching like everyone else at that time
stylesjdog 1 year ago
That is Prince he was singing falsetto this is his first album. I stll have it wrapped and all. I was 11 years old and this si the first album I ever bought. I bought one to save and onre to listen to. This is my favorite album by Prince.
2010shanky 1 year ago
@2010shanky Yes, this is an album that PRINCE played on, with a producer from Minneapolis named Pepe Willie. It wasn't Prince's album, but moreso like a compilation album that Pepe put together to help showcase Prince's talents. Reminds of some vintage old-school jams from the "I Wanna Be Your Lover" era. NICE! Thanks for posting!
chj2 11 months ago
Not a Prince song, at least that is not Prince singing.
319hmh 1 year ago
In two hundred years, or two thousand years, Prince will be MUCH MORE popular and beloved than even NOW...the true CULT of PRINCE has not even begun yet friends! He will be something akin to a Jesus or Buddha figure in the hundreds of years to come because NOBODY will EVER come close in the future to this music, to this level of spritual expression and truth in music...WE will be the people who actually saw him play and got to be part of it...think about it. It's really, really deep.
tdsafff 1 year ago
Who thinks this is NOT Prince singing? His voice is too distinctive to be mistaken.
Get the Q tips out and get to cleanin.
Even this early, raw work blows 90% of the bullshit that is out now out of the water.
If released today, this is a top 10.
nunayobiz 1 year ago
it was actually called the battle for the king of punk funk, with prince and rick james,he tore my boy rick a new asshole.and seeing rick james in interviews after that tour was funny as hell cause he called prince everyname in the book
bettychambers 1 year ago
hes a genius... a very sensetive person....
chillson22 1 year ago 2
one person is a sucker or deaf.
zsoowiey 1 year ago
I've never heard an argument about whether or not Shaq or Brad Pitt was racially mixed or not so the mere presence of such a debate about Prince is evidence that he is more mixed than the average black American........the problem here is that all the "one drop rule" supporters can only recognize extremes.
daddyrichten 1 year ago
Did anyone here notice that this is not Prince Singing this song........WTF!
willkeil 1 year ago
It doesn't matter what skin color Prince is he can make the world dance.
sugarlove401 1 year ago
funkyness created by an 19 year old boy, who is 52 now and funks at least as good as he did then. wow. <3
(by the way im not shure im he was really 19, but the discription sais this is from 1977.. so..)
zsoowiey 1 year ago
he was black, so is it any surprise that prince would go light. Not really. If you wanted to sell records pre 1990s the whiter the more you sold or not put your picture on an album. Elvis, white, good but not the best, sold the most of any rock musician because of it. If James Brown or little richard or chuck berry or hendrix were white would have sold more than elvis. Rick James was succesful befre prince but he didn't whiten, thats why he never got a movie
stylesjdog 1 year ago
@stylesjdog when prince 1st came out i saw the afro and knew that he was black. i recall when he went on bandstand and hardly spoke to dick clark, i knew he was stuck up. i love his music up til about 1990. i never ever thought that he tried to play up to white folks. thats just where he came from, mn. i'm from chicago but i'm in portland, or now and i see alot of prince here
redblackandgreen 1 year ago
Prince family comes from Louisana, he is one of them creole black people basically beyonce types. Prince is obviously not white but has whitened his skin to sell more records and I don't blame him, worked for Jacko worked for him. the first 2 Prince albums didn't sell but when he whitens his skin and straightens that hair he gets a movie and dirty mind explodes him onto the scene. Recall before MJ no blacks were even on mtv and james brown was told not to put his face on CDs because
stylesjdog 1 year ago
@stylesjdog Uuum Prince didn't lighten his skin. He has always been light skin so how the hell can you lighten your skin more from his complexion??
Ediva75 1 year ago
@Ediva75 dumbest thing I ever heard. why would he need to bleach his skin? He is already light skinned and hell... He's Prince!
jrryngwn 11 months ago
This isn't him singing either, I think he just wrote the music and played the synth. But someone else is singing this. 94 East was the band.
MordaciousFilms 1 year ago
Wow! Are you really thinking about what color he is when you listen to this music!...Your missin the point! It's the music!
mehlymehl 1 year ago
mordacious, yes this is 1977. I think he is 16 at the time, always ahead of his time.
truthdj 1 year ago
@truthdj he was 19 in '77. he was born in 1958.
richluvsdee 1 year ago
PRINCE will always be the Man! His name is Prince, and He is 'funky'!
KevinBreeze 1 year ago
i love this song so much and have for years. so beautiful.
brooklynlodger 1 year ago
In america, is anyone actually all black or white? Seriously? Because my grandparents were orphans, and i look white (i should, half my skin's albino) but who knows, really? Where would you have to live, now, to be pure anything?
josephinewinter 1 year ago
Flabbergasted I am by all this talk about his colour, for chrisake, listen to the music man or have something interesting to say about the song or the artist. Considering Prince and his repertoire, that shouldn't be too hard?
NovaScotiaChick 1 year ago
He says... i wish there was no black or white i wish there was no rules...!
Myajackson1996 1 year ago 15
This is not 1977 though. This is obviously 80s production and synthesizers. It's awesome though, very very catchy!
MordaciousFilms 1 year ago
hahah, of course prince is black! hear how he talks, how he sings and how he plays the funk. plus he's awarded by the naacp. both his parents are black. he's just a light skinned brother, just like Ice T or al b sure or beyonce or moris day
BayAreaSFGG 1 year ago
It is simple, Prince says himself that he is an African American allright, now why you people want to contradict him? :S
Xxaniela001 1 year ago 3
Why argue when this song is so effing DANCEABLE?
iTunesJunkie11 1 year ago 2
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So is this actually Prince singing? Im a litle confused here lol. It better be I bought the sonf off iTunes the other day and Ive been bumpin it constantly. If I find out it isnt even him im gonna be disappointed
longliveE 1 year ago
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So is this actually Prince singing? Im a litle confused here lol. It better be I bought the sonf off iTunes the other day and Ive been bumpin it constantly. If I find out it isnt even him im gonna be disappointed
longliveE 1 year ago
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longliveE 1 year ago
Great song
donhale1 1 year ago
what is all this stupid ass talk about Prince's ethnicity, anyone ever listened to controversy "I'm not black or white" listen to the man's words. his music is beyond race
freedomgrooves 1 year ago 2
@freedomgrooves he does not say I'm not black or white in controversy he asks the question " am i black or white am i straight or gay." for the record his biological mom is white and his dad is black. he was raised by his black father and black step-mom in the black part of minniapolis. ps this song is awsome!!!!!
mrwhatthepho2012 1 year ago 2
In the 21st Century, we had this word - genius. What did it mean for someone above the mere label of genius? There was royalty, an astronomer, a mathematician, a philosopher, a composer, a performer, a priest, a relic, an icon, a deity. There was Prince, and surely no word that primitive, 21st Century man had described his intense creativity. Prince could have saved the world, but men did not listen.
mdonnelly1971 1 year ago
Prnce had an afro??? damnnnn sonn thats tighttt!
americangangster86 1 year ago
Wooooow =O this is prince at 15?! lmao awesome fro' goin on there plus this is a rockin song =)
areUsureTV 1 year ago
lived in MPLS and loved the people as well as the environment. I don't know what was so intoxicating the beauty of the state or the people I met along the way. I would like to recapture that essence again.
1luvKamiSama1 1 year ago
why didnt he just stay nappy??? Looks sooo much better than that straightened old lady doo he has now..............so queerrrrrrr
sixstring49 1 year ago
@sixstring49 : Just a note, his hair was never nappy, it's always been straight. He just wore it in a frow because it was the style. Look at his childhood pictures. (Not that it matters but people make such a big deal about it.)
180anon 1 year ago
eye love it
zsoowiey 1 year ago
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African American takes precedence over all others because as the law states it only takes 1 drop of negro blood for a person to be 100% negro.... look it up!!!!
borninvegas72 1 year ago
people must think michael jackson is bi racial too ...lol
ARMONI555 1 year ago
Y'all are stupid for arguing. Any dumbass can look at him and tell what color he is. He is the color of music
ceplea 1 year ago 73
@ceplea I agree with you. My mother is mixed with Irish and African-American. My grandmother is the same. My father is Haitian and I am brown-skinned. White people notice him as bi-racial. It is too bad the Italian race doesn't praise him. I guess 'cause he is part Black. They only recognize people like Mickey Mantle the baseball player, Rober Dinero, and Joe Pecci and many more. They hate to give credit to a black people. He is the color of music. Thank you. Love Prince.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
ummm.....is this one song? cuz i cant find just another sucker anywhere. and if it is, why the title?
xRxAxTxOx 1 year ago
Skin color is so important too some people. I don't know why.
rickames 1 year ago
Prince Rogers Nelson is African-American. Both of his parents were African-American although his mother, Mattie Shaw, had Italian and Jewish ancestors, as well.
Mr1000Wolfsbane 1 year ago
@Mr1000Wolfsbane Why can't you write that Prince Rogers Nelson is Italian? Or Prince Rogers Nelson is Jewish. Why does the African-American race take prescidence over another. Is it eaier for the beholder to classify him as African-American for one's convenience? Just food for thought, I'm not trying to start an argument. I am from Haiti.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 Because he identifies himself as so. Why would write someone as a different race, if they already told you otherwise? Besides, his dominate genetic traits are African American above all others.
beast141 1 year ago 2
@beast141 I hate to be a smart a--. Only dna can prove what % of race one is. Many people that look like him say they are African-American 'cause society says he is. They feel if he announces his other heritages blacks will say he's trying to be white. To be truthful, I'd like to be a bit lighter. I think black people may be a tiny bit jealous, 'cause they don't have both worlds that are physically evident. There are white people that have black great grandparents. They are white looking.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 I just wanted to say that race is not based on biology. It has been proven that people of difference race are more genetically similar than people of the same race when you look at their mitochondrial DNA. Race is socially constructed. And I don't think race should matter, but to society it does and I can't change that.
crayonfire 1 year ago
@crayonfire Thank you for your input. Sometime I get race, ethnicity and other words in the same category mixed. It seems like you do understand my point. As far as race being socially constructed, that is what a person has learned in books. However in society people base their fact finding on appearance. Unfortunately that is the case. Many caucasions can quickly identify a black person by physical looks and that's society.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 Im sorry to tell you . Prince is all african american , he often lied about his heritage cause he admitted that its more interesting to be bi racial but he actually is NOT bi racial. that lie was replicated for the purpose of Purple rain. so Black people have a right to be proud of their own .
ARMONI555 1 year ago
@ARMONI555 I do read what you are saying. You wroted that his parents have Jewish and Italian ancestry. Did you mean that because one of his parents are not completely white, that is why he is not bi-racial? Only dna can prove the percentage of race one has. His features and skin color are of another race. His hair is not completely course. Are you hating or do you really mean that? Look at him. My mother is bi-racial and says he is. She is Irish and Black.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 honestly your reading waaay to deep into this most Black people a bi racial anyway , for instance my mother and father are black but i have light brown hair and hazel green eyes and light skin. this was due to the fact that my great grandfather was half white. these types of things are ramped in black dna . after all if we were all not biracial we would all look more africans. our ancestors. but i identify with being black so much more than biracial and certainly white.
ARMONI555 1 year ago
@ARMONI555 Yes, I agree that most black people are bi-racial. Precisely the idea. Another example, Naomi Campbell, supermodel, her great grandmother is Chinese. Your last sentence, I not sure it was you who I wrote to. It just seemed as people wanted to characterize Prince as being just black, and he's not. Your point is understood. Thank you.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 yeah but you are forgetting prince identifies with being black. and all races if you trace back far enough have some other race in there bloodline its quit common, i see a lot of half italian and half irish people in my neighborhood. my point stands prince is Black, even if there is some trait of another nationality in his dna. cause if that is the case that you think you cant call him black , well then there are no more black people cause we all have mixed dna . get me ?
ARMONI555 1 year ago
@ARMONI555 I guess you are right, Prince is black. He knows this as well. Prince does seem to be around a lot of black people, if that makes any sense at all. For Prince to deny that he is black would make him look foolish. Well I guess I am being ridiculous. In my mind I like to make up excuses for Prince and put him on a pedistal. I've come down off my dilusions. I study him hard & see he is a person just like anyone else. Sorry for taking things out of context and being irrational.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@ARMONI555 i am sure prince has gotten his nigger wake up call sometime in his life
lilHippo 1 year ago
@lilHippo im sure too
ARMONI555 1 year ago
beautiful one
royaleplace 1 year ago
he is BLACK ! enough!!
really, go look at his middle school picture and tell me thats not a black person
good god people are so damn dumb sometimes
lisalvjones 1 year ago
He's black and self identifies as so. But american blacks are a mixed race anyway. Don't know why it's such a debate.
Rainbeauchile 1 year ago
@Rainbeauchile TELL'EM
Aphrodite1070 1 year ago
@Rainbeauchile Because race is a contact sport and an American tradition.
ApprxAm 1 year ago
@ApprxAm Truly an American tradition unfortunately. It's unfortunate that some folks seem to feel he must be "mixed" and not black in order for him to be this good and for people other than other blacks to like him. It really shouldn't matter.
Rainbeauchile 1 year ago
Just another...just another sexy ass tune from the genius!!!!!!!!
MrJAcKsPaRrOw76 1 year ago
wow...and anyone is still asking if prince is black or white??
i guess hes black non? ;D
offbeat91 1 year ago
@offbeat91 Prince is mixed. part Black, part Italian and part Native American.
BenJabituya 1 year ago
Damn this is an old ass song...Classic and awesome like me lol:)
tashatasha77 1 year ago
Actually, Prince recorded this Album with a band called 94 East with Pepe Willie & Andre Cymone. Prince was about 16-18 Years old at the time. Him and Andre played as studio musicians for this project. Pepe Willie has great material.
EUPHORIAMUSIQ 1 year ago
ahead of its time...this type of stuff was coming out in 84-88
jjpeterson1 1 year ago
This song is so damn funky!!
superchick76 1 year ago
t es le meilleur enculé
valiowx 1 year ago
original Prince funk
0001BIGBROTHERseesyo 1 year ago
of all the songs on the album, this one sounds the most like the Prince we would come to know and love in the 80s. My favorite as well.
theskystretchesblue 1 year ago
THIS IS PRINCE AT 15 YEARS OLD,I SEEN A CONVERSATION ON A TV SHOW AS
HE TOLD THE SYORY. VARY TRUE
lemonhead7357 1 year ago
@lemonhead7357 This is NOT Prince at 15...Its his former band member Gayle Chapmen
Rid 1 year ago
Prince ORIGINAL FUNK
001BigBrother 1 year ago
pepe was married to prince aunt prince went to new york to get a record deal in 77 and got turn down he recorded this in the same year
MrRio855 1 year ago
Thanks for the answer but it is hard to believe that it was recorded in 1978. The sould is so 83 84 ! I'm a soul funk boogie collector and I have never seen a tune that is so aheadon its time! Really confusing !
AlbinFromFrance 1 year ago
@AlbinFromFrance I really love this track too, it is definitely ahead of its time. If you want to look into the chronology of Prince's early recordings check out this thread prince.org/msg/7/320445, or the book Dance Music Sex Romance by Per Nilsen from page 318 (it can be viewed in Google Books). Best regards, G
gianni737 1 year ago
It is way too advanced to be from 1977. Sounds more like 1983-84. Someone could please confirm the real year ?
AlbinFromFrance 1 year ago
@AlbinFromFrance this is 1977 from the minnaoplis genius lp
72eneg 1 year ago
@AlbinFromFrance This is a demo which Prince recorded with Pepé Willie's band 94 East in 1978. The song was written by Prince and Pepé Willie.
gianni737 1 year ago
@AlbinFromFrance
From Pepe Willie's official site :
"...Six of the songs on this album were first released in 1986 on the Minneapolis Genius/94 East: The Historic Recordings album featuring Prince, Pepé Willie, and André Cymone...These six songs were taken from the original recordings, updated with additional instrumental parts and remixed..."
pepemusic(dot)com/web2002/symbolicbeg02.htm
dx318 1 year ago
I own this song! It's the jam!
teetimingit 1 year ago
@ video jerk.. get outta dodge.. I was like 11 years old when I went to that concert here in Detroit... It was called the battle of the funk and Prince burst through this giant paper thing in leg warmers and some black drawers ,, needlesss to say he won lol
2010shanky 1 year ago 11
@2010shanky lol
KidaDynamite22 1 year ago
this song kicks ass what he had too be 16 at the time way ahead of his time
ThePookie27 1 year ago
Damn I miss the ol skool Prince.
deldawn 1 year ago
This man is BAD as in GOOD the best artist ever hell,I want to be like him I only 7 when this song was out I've been listening to Prince forever
IAMVAUGE 1 year ago
this has got 2 be one of his baddest jams ever that base is on boi
IAMVAUGE 1 year ago
Check out Loving Cup on the same album. Pimp Shit!
staxoway 1 year ago
94 East was a Minneapolis-based funk group formed in December 1975 by Pepe Willie, the former husband of Prince's cousin. Willie was one of the people responsible for getting Prince's career up and running, and soon enlisted the talents of a young Prince and his childhood best friend, André Cymone. Prince composed one song for them, "Just Another Sucker". The band disbanded when Prince became a star in his own right. recordings were recorded between December 1975 and February 1979.[
madbenno76 1 year ago
@madbenno76 Is Andre Cymone Prince's cousin? How did you get the character above the 'e' in the name Andre?
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 No they are no cousins. They were friends. But Prince did live with the Andersons (Andre's mother Bernadette is mentioned in the O(+> album liner notes in the lyrics of ' the sacrifice of victor') for a while.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 I read the Andrea Cymone and Morris Day are related to Prince and he worked with them. Andrea C. is the light-skinned one that plays the drums.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 they are not related to Prince. (Dwayne Nelson and Chazz Smith are Prince's kin folk.) And I do not know if Andre was ever a drummer.
I am pretty sure Morris was the drummer. And when Prince took Flyte Tyme over he pretty much fired Alexander O'Neal as the vocalist and gave the job to morris (in exchange for (Morris' song 'Partyup'). But other than O'neal the TIme's lineup was the same as Flyte Tyme's.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 I named my son after Chazz Smith, he is your age now. I did'nt say I brought it in 77 sweetie. I was a fan club vice pres. back in the day. U do know A lot about R.P nelson. Are u also from his hometown...?
dollbaby4400 1 year ago
@dollbaby4400 ahh, yes I do see I miss read what you posted. And I am not sure where you got my age but it is bit older than 22. No I am not from MPLS. I was just a freak for a long time. Not so much any more, the new album is not doing much for me. I rather jam For You (or the Prince tour cd I have been digging as of late) than any of his last few albums. (ecp 20Ten). But I do apologize for the "no you didn't"
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
This wasn't on Prince's "Prince Album" which I thought was his first. Which Album was this one off?
madbenno76 1 year ago
Prince was ahead of his time in talent.......the playing style that creates this type of sound ruled until around 1985.
OceanJackson40 1 year ago
@dollbaby4400
This 1970's beat sounds great!!! How old was he when he when came out with his firs album.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 he was 17
hotmasked1 1 year ago
@hotmasked1
Thank you! He must have been working on an album in high school. Woooooow!!!
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 he was 19 when "For You" came out. (but that was just 2 months before his 20th birthday)
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 Did Prince record any albums at 16 years old? Thank you for your information!
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 in the 1976 time period Prince was working with Chris Moon on demos and some commercial projects. At about that same time Prince was also working with Pepe Willie (a cousin by marriage). (this song came out of the Pepe Willie sessions). Chris Moon said that some of the songs that ended up on For You (other than 'Soft and Wet') were part of said demos. Prince soon jumped ship to Owen Husney.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 Okay wow that sounds like good information for me. Can you give me the site where I could read this for myself. Do you have any contact with Prince's family or friends? Are you of any relation to Prince? Where can I find his cologne, t-shirts, and especially symbol. I want to purchase them.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 I have no contacts at all. I got all that from years of reading and a good memory. I am sure some of it is on the various wikis. I read the book called "A Pop Life" by dave hill and books by Alex Hahn and Per Nilsen (who i think is widely assumed to be the best).
I do not know of any official place to get his merchandise.
there is an unofficial web site called prince dot ORG. that would be a good place to meet fans and get info.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 Prince sounds like a shrewd business man. I would not to play around with him. How well does he treat women professionally?
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@princeskipper1 i have no clue.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
This was 77 - Before he had a major record deal...wasn't Andre C and either Morris or Alexander Oneil backing him or was this solo? Listen close and you can hear where the 80 groups took their sound from this - The System comes to mind right away. Don't Disturb This Groove...the 12 inch was a beast!
P1Kage 1 year ago
Thing that mad him great an this song points out is that though he is a great an proficient live instrumentalist he was smart enough to use technology like over dubbing drum machines looping efx etc...Where alot of musicians before him where hesitant and where either using all tech stuff or none at all, where he laid the blueprint for modern productions techniques by doing both live over programed stuff which keeps the the groove consistent, but also adds change and spontaneity.
kingofdaundaworld 1 year ago
That's a Linn drum machine clap sound which he didn't start using until 81. there's another earlier version of this song
timtrek 1 year ago
This was 1977 I had the album.
dollbaby4400 1 year ago
@dollbaby4400
This 1970's beat sounds great!!! How old was he when he when came out with his firs album.
princeskipper1 1 year ago
@dollbaby4400 no you didn't
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 Son u are my sons age 22 , This was my time Prince is around my age. I had all underground. Anythying Prince . PLEASEEEEE!!!!!!... u better ask somebody.!!!!!
dollbaby4400 1 year ago
@dollbaby4400 you are mistaken. This song was recorded in 76 76 but not release until 86. Prince first album came out April 7th 1978. Now you MIGHT have had FOR YOU in 78... but you did not have any prince anything in 1977.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
@VideoJerk1999 I love you abbay a realk prince fan.. I was only 10 but I bought two of every album prince ever released and still have them all 32 years later... you bring the music and I'll bring the wine justa s long as were together
2010shanky 1 year ago
@2010shanky thanks, and it is cool i was listing to on of the few live versions of "just as long as we're together" from March 1980 when Prince was opening for Rick James.
VideoJerk1999 1 year ago
electronic sounds were becoming more popular in the late 70's. First electronic sound used in a #1 single can be heard from The Supremes late 1960's hit 'Reflections'.
JustRudo 1 year ago
this don't sound like it's from 1977. this sounds waaaaaay too 80's.
mattratt512 1 year ago