Pt 3 Enoch-Metatron & Merkabah Theology

[Queenyinthehouse]

This entire message is based on "Mormon" belief, and the mormons are followers of charlatan Joseph Smith who was shot down for his lies. The book of Abraham, the book of Enoch, the book of Jeu, the gospel of mary magdaline, the gospel of Judas and ALL of them were plants by satan and this guy is ALSO a plant by satan and tells lies based on his OWN satanic mormon beliefs. He reads from occultic books and BLATANTLY follows what kabala teaches, and he qputes Helena Blavatsky's beliefs in "metatron

[shechaiyah]

I'm going to have to listen to this series at least several times.

[reoreason]

The line from Ezekiel "They turn not as they went".This is not symbolic this means the wheels of vapor were rotating as it moved back and forth in the air.Enoch saw these beings as did Ezekiel and as did John when he was shown the future.

[reoreason]

The light comes down from within the spinning wheel of white vapor that rides upon a thick nimbus cloud.The entity have many eyes glistening .The merkabah is as a whirlwind that becomes the wheels that become the Halo AFTER THE GLORY with a green rainbow spinning all around the outside. THIS IS WHAT THE WHEEL WITHIN A WHEEL IS THAT EZEKIEL SAW .

[reoreason]

I have seen what these Chariots look like

[jmelbourne9]

We, throughout all time and space, are on a journey into the Light. Your part of the journey adds tremendously to the fabric and texture of the master plan, weaving Love and Light together in Divine Grace.

Enter now the kingdom of Heaven within. Know who you are and accept yourself, for you are a Divine being of Light on a most sacred mission. You have such Divine gifts to contribute. Peace is yours for the offering. Eternal peace be with you as you take each step on your journey home.

[riversideharp]

Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus or Tertullian in A.D. 200 that the Book of Enoch had been rejected by the Jews because it contained prophecies pertaining to Christ.

The Ante-Nicene Fathers (ed. Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson; vol 4.16)

[riversideharp]

"The Universal Kabbalah" by Leonora Leet (Author)

What was that information again about another Canon with the Book of Enoch?

[canadianbacon007]

We are aware (or at least on some level concede) that there are many spiritual gifts, discerment, teaching, and even prophecy. But anoinment I think may be to extent an unknown qauntity. We on occasion assume that the annointed personages we are (aware of) can singularly possess God's attributes (IE Jesus), to accomplish a mission, but I think we sell ourselves short on the gifts we possess because we don't consider ourselves fixtures in the overall process of whatever dogma we profess.

[canadianbacon007]

We sink in a mire of misunderstanding, and underestimate our worth, and by extension, our place in the scheme of things. Callings or even predestined annointments (not to lessen our Savior's work in any way) are a means to an end. But the ends always supercede the means.

[canadianbacon007]

Jesus I think demonstated that by washing his diciples feet. We really need to truly consider the significance of our personal relationships with our Heavenly Father, and truly try to understand that He has the same love for each and every one of His children. Pleasing Him never hurts, but he is not a respecter of persons,(in spite of whatever conditions surround us).

[canadianbacon007]

So, my thinking is as the BYP would say, Get er done!, and someday the face you will see on that throne will definitely be yours. Don't forget everyday for God, is today.

[omiolo]

"in the abisidian cannon of the Bible the Book of Enoch is right before the book of job"

can you spell abisidian canon for me?

sorry, I am an engineer not a history or english major!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

My good pleasure my friend. It is Abyssinian. (I hope - GRIN!). If that's not it, it's awfully close.

[omiolo]

"It is Abyssinian"

that is correct thanks!

I looked it up!

wow, that was education! I knew very little about the coptic church!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Oh the Coptic Church is one of the PREMIERE studies to go on! The Coptic scriptures are dynamite! As other Gnostic Coptic writings are also. I haven't done near enough yet either, but what a CHALLENGE and interesting thing to realize how literally and realistically DIVERSE Christianity is after all! We in the west here think we are the only ones with Christian reality. ***SURPRISE***!!!! We were never more wrong eh? lol...... the joy of learning.......

[omiolo]

in your opinion is the Book of Enoch quoted in the Book of Mormon?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Nibley says it is. I have seen another argument saying no. So I am up in the air about it. If it's not a direct quote, it's close, because, after all, all the prophets have taught the same message of salvation. Funny how the BofM is accused of merely plagiarizing the Bible. Well if it wasn't biblical, you can be more than sure the critics would SCREAM about that even louder! GRIN!

[omiolo]

"Nibley says it is. I have seen another argument saying no. So I am up in the air about it"

that is why I asked you. You are not pretentious!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Goodness I hope I ain't pretentious. If anything I am an eternal student who is always open and willing to learn and understand better. And, difficult though it is, it is also equally important to unlearn (at least for me) what I thought I knew if new evidence and proper and rigorous analysis shows what I thought I knew to be correct is wrong. But this can takes years in some cases! That's the weird thing. One has a ton of work to do before adjusting understanding. That's called faith I suppose.

[rdt8888]

What did Nibley say? I don't think the Book of Enoch was available to Joseph Smith. It was lost until James Bruce brought copies back from Ethiopa and they were not translated and published in England until 1821. But I sincerely doubt that JS would have seen a copy so if it is quoted in the BofM that would be really interesting. I read Enoch a long time ago and didn't understand it. The video is very helpful. Thanks.

[omiolo]

"I don't think the Book of Enoch was available to Joseph Smith"

I thought Richard Laurence was the one who translated the Book of Enoch in 1883?

I don't think it was either, but some quotes in the BOM appear to come from the book of enoch (according to Nibley). It is referenced many times in the D&C too!

[Jaynagurl]

I'm a little confused..is Enoch speaking to himself on the throne telling him to speak to the fallen angels about not having redemption, etc? Is this a separate character?

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I am not quite sure how all this works yet. Although the mystics teach that separation is the illusion. There is only ONE God, so.... uh...... what does that imply? GRIN!