Communism should actually be great not only in the theoretical sense but also in the practical sense; It does not work because of greedy fat-cats suck as yourself...you Yanks tend to commonly confuse communism and socialism as one, but the truth is that communism primarily stands for equality.
Communism was designed to function for the dictators who rise above the people and dictate what the people can do, what the people can own, what the people can think, etc. Communist dictators are the case in point for why communism is evil and why it can never work. Notice that Stalin and Lenin wanted for nothing while a great majority of the people literally starved "for the greater good". You will never see a starving, suffering dictator in a Communism society. Dictators really don't care.
I 100% agree with you that people are selfish. However, it's not necessarily due to people being selfish that is the reason communism can't work. Not every person who works hard for what they have is "selfish" because they don't want to "share" the fruit of their hard labor with the guy over there who is totally able-bodied but refuses to work and carries a sign that reads "Share the wealth" when he has no idea what goes into earning that wealth in the first place. I'm against lazy handouts.
well, i dont think communism is super bad, we havent tried this in a free way yet. we have had communism with dictatorship, but not communism with freedom. In some way it worked well, but lack of freedom made it suck.
when that said, you mention us just wanne reproduce and that stuff. i think we have the ability to take a stepp forward and move away from that. you cant compare us to random animals. we are able to think, adapt and evolve. If we choose capitalism we will evolve in that way etc
@Troforso The reason you will not see communism without freedom is because you will not find a person perfect enough to overcome the tempted greed of his/her own heart. Even if you could have communism with freedom for a time, it would be short-lived because eventually a person would take power who is just like the previous failed communist societies of the past: Stalin, Lenin, Mau, Hitler... I think we all know how those ended. No thanks, I don't want to chance it in my lifetime.
@CautiousSaint im not so sure about that, most off this socalled communist states we have had, did come to power through millitary revolution, now that usually means dictatorship straight away. If it is the people who deside everything, than a psycho with powerlust cant come to absolute power.
@1guitarkid Why do you live in this society then if you don't ilke its structure? You don't like being in one of the still freest countries in the world despite it problems? You could use a dose of history. :)
some people think that communism is such a great thing. if that was the case, we would never hear about people attempting to escape their communist countries
Laughable because these arguments have been dismissed a million times. They still seem to be dominant in America. Way to go, no healthcare, shit minimum wages, prison system, racism during natural calamity, police tyranny, cia involvement in other countries. Seriously stop listening to the mainstream media you've got there and do some real reading of Marx, Lennin and Trotsky. You would laugh and cry at this video looking at yourself at the same time.
@kaushiksays i aint saying that communism aint possible. but you cant support the practice off communism that has been throughout the world. dictatorship always end bad.
@kaushiksays And is millions of people starving to death and being shot in the head for not wanting to be 100% ruled (nearly down to their daily bowel movements) by a dictatorship some kind of wonderful alternative?
@kaushiksays Communism fails because it is a logical fallacy. Period. That is why it is a bad social-economic theory. Communism does not work because it assumes that no one has power or that everyone has an equal share of power. However, by necessity, power is given to individuals in order to get things done, from resource production/distribution to diplomacy to defense. Even when one looks at communism while removing the human element, it doesn't make sense, even as a theory.
hail satan and whoever made this video! capitalism is the best thing satan ever created. i hate the poor so god damn much and i hope they all get abortions. fuck. them.
One could say that free market capitalism is bad in theory because in every society that it has been implemented in, to some degree or another , morphs into some form of corporatism. The united states is a prime example
I guess communism would work if we were biologically collectivist like ants, but we are not ants. The one error that I see my buddies make so often is that they think money automatically equals goods and services, so if the rich has all this fiat money then we should be able to survive under communism for a while even without anyone working. They just don't understand that it's the production part of the story that actually matter, not all the wealth that the rich people have accumulated.
First communism has been done in small tribal societies ( I think there size & primitiveness is the only reason they are able to)& Humans are animals, but we are a cooperative species by our nature & ultimately our goal is to pass on our genetics. Realize that all humans have almost identical DNA, so aiding others in survival & reproduction does meet this requirement.
Also, it was failed in practice because nobody took a second to actually think about what they were doing. Communism is great, the only reason it has failed in practice is because capitalist society which is more common, rejected these societies and would not allow them to even attempt to co-exist peacefully. No, that makes too much sense. Capitalists have to do the good ol' american thing: Be exactly like us, do what we do or fuck you you aren't allowed to be our friend.
@CadetBrandon i agree with that shit..but Thers multiple reasons why "communism" has failed--partly because it hasent ever really existed. but A HUGE part of why it didnt work--is because of all-powerful greed. Not only from outside capatalist opposition--but from inner greed. Its funny how everyone jumps on the "Communism is evil" bandwagon due to the dictator-run communist countries--WHEN THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF A CLASSLESS SOCIETY. I urge you to read up on Operation northwood>>>>>
@CadetBrandon in which the american government accepted this project---in which they stage fake terrorist attacks (some say they may have ACTUALLY caused some) in order to convine the main populous to invade cuba---since its communism was fucking with southamerican/ U.S business. Its funny because JFK was against it....Look where he is now haha.---It seems quite remincent of the 9/11 attacks....its odd that the U.S was funding the taliban up until MAY of 2001--only 3 months b4 the attacks.
Communism has nothing to do with selfless giving. Selfless giving is the wet dream of reactionaries, who wish for the "good old days" of pre-modern society. Also, Communism has nothing to do with altruism. On the contrary, capitalism is based more on accounts of altruism than communism. Communism as a movement arises when the workers themselves adopt radical egoism; but since every single one of them is socially weaker than their employers, they can only fulfill their egoistic desires together.
ill agree that communism in general ,as it appears, does not work according to such standards. however, a communistic economy would be a great improvement for america.
i figure if this guy can finally get it, maybe one day we wont have to kill eachother over land and resources. and maybe...just maybe..we wont die in a nuclear holocaust. fingers crossed.
and for those who say "people die under communism".... No shit. But I would say more people die because of capitalism than of communism. Capitalism exploits people worldwide and has been a known cause to overthrow democratically elected officials to replace them with dictators who favor corporations like The United Fruit Company in Latin America. Look up Juan Peron. For someone to think that just because Americans live well, capitalism must be pro-human rights and ignorant and niave
@mooseutoo you know whats funny, this is purely speculative of whatever sources it was from; but some people have proof or think they have proof that America funded and helped certain communist leaders impose their tyranny. Apparently alot of different types of social systems were being highly considered by massive amounts of people (not just communism) so America inevitably needed to demonize a seperate system so they wont lose their fucking mansions. I mean...sound pretty reasonable to me.
I believe that when there is no moral compass, concepts such as communism will always presist and spread. Communism is anti-religion; Karl Marx only believed in the "species-being."
@lexaeus88 buddy....what? Communism theory isnt anti-Religion. It more like: anti-religion-controlling-the-society in which its practiced. and the stuff about Marx believing in species-being..i dont know what the fuck that has to do with anything. if anything that supports my point, in which biologically, humans dont have to conform to their natures--in fact society will actually create an environment in which human nature is crafted, rather then hereditarily gained...please elaborate.
@TheGreatDeciever55 You still don't get it. Communism is true bullshit for the masses... It's been like that everytime it's been put into play. The people of N.Korea are illeterate brain-washed retards... They actually believe Kim Jong il is a god. If you look at documentaries from People from around the world visiting such a shithole, the people their are not even aloud to look outsiders in the eye for fear of jail-time in labor camps.. Is that "Good" communism?
@AggressiveNarcissism maan. this has nothing to do with what happened with communism in the past--thats a result of tyranic rule, which has no part in Marx's theories--this whole video is about the THEORY and concept of communism. You think communist societies killed a lot? what about Great britian since the 1800's? thats alot of blood stained hands. Its about peoples disregard for life. Communism is an excellent concept.. but dont twist it, im not a commie...im a sentient being, nothing else.
@TheGreatDeciever55, If you watched this video, you should of learned something. You commies always put Communism on this pedestal and claim "Well, that wasn't true Communism, it was just some ---Insert here---." Fact is, they were Communist parties. 1. The party was Communist. 2. The people believe thing's were going to happen for the better and 3. They were wrong. So why even try to push the ideology when in practice, the theory is garbage and should be trashed.
@AggressiveNarcissism Its you who doesnt get it. You keep saying because it was the result of millions starving and murdered is why Communism theory is bad. When your Capatalist theory starves and murders expodentially more. Its just cuz its not in their OWN country. And yet you brain fried dummies watch them on t.v. give them a fucking 1.20 a day donation, and think your fucking wonderful people. its time you grow the fuck up. JESUS IM ALMOST 14 YEARS OLD and ive got more fucking smarts.
@TheGreatDeciever55, Well, your parents must be pretty dumb then. How do they let a 13 or better yet, how does a 13 year old dwell in the anti-humans rights theory of Communism... Great job mom. Look Communism kills it's own people. The "This isn't real Communism" fails everytime because everything the world has seen under the label Communism has failed and abused human-rights.
@AggressiveNarcissism Do you actually understand what Communism is? Stop listening to this videos' dated arguments from what he thinks human nature and do your research. Communism has never been achieved, not even the Socialist nations like the USSR and the peoples Republic Of China claimed that. They were in a Socialist transitional state.
@AggressiveNarcissism Its like listening to a train wreck maaan....first of all, i'll knock you out if you talk shit about my mom again haha. and second obviously you arent understanding the same shit ive told you about..hmm..3 or 4 times already. Communism--concieved mostly in part by Karl Marx, hasnt really ever existed. If you use blueprints for a rocket, but decide your not gunna put an engine in, THEN YOUR FUCKED, and didnt really make a rocket. The killing had nothing to do with it.
@lexaeus88 I notice you refer to places like cuba quite a few time as failed communist states. But you seem to miss any historical context. When Castro came into power he was not a communist, but America labeled him as such because he did not want american corporations exploiting his people, and the country pretty much turned to shit because of America's interactions with the country.
@mooseutoo Again, don't blame America. Castro is a communist and a tyrant. Let me guess, America is to blame for Hitler's rise to powers as well as Mao, right? Don't make me laugh.
@lexaeus88 so gotta spread some facts again. its documented that America corporation did buisnees with Hitler and his Nazi party, not officially but probably to support their military, you really think these people with all that cash (whom can pay off consriptionists) give a fuck about sending their own people to death, when they kill millions of others? hahah...you dont really know what your talking about...
so.... have any of you actually studied the principles of communism? Because very few of you (including this guy in the video) seem to know shit all about it. I cant debate this shit, with people whom only know communism from what fox news tells them. hahaha. But seriously, this video was incredibly bias, and really had no strong points at all. how could it be (in your mind) that everyone in communism selflessly gives to the community..and yet everyone is personally poor and unhappy?....
People aren't selfless. There is no such thing as "everyone selflessly giving to the community."
I suggest reading some books on economics if you are genuinely interested in why communism fails. I'd start with something like Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal by Ayn Rand.
@XOmniverse my point exactly... there is no such thing as people undeniably selfless to their community. Thats what i was trying to say maaaan. you seemed to support the fact that communism support complete altruisticness. and i was saying: Fuck no, communism supports people supporting their community over monetarily gaining as first nature...not only nature.
@TheGreatDeciever55 Looks break down Communism in short. 1. No human rights. 2. Government has total control with which they don't have answer to anybody(Dictator). 3. Propaganda, oh this is a good one, State controlled media (N.Korea, China, Cuba, etc). I agree all media nowadays is propaganda but Communist countries are truly state-run propaganda. 4. Living condition, what type of government produces the worst living conditions? you guessed it, Communism. It's a fail ideology, get over it.
@XOmniverse Anarchy is the most ridiculous ideal in existance. It doesn't even count, basically it means they believe that society should just fuck ourselves over and head back to the stone age and kill each other. No authority, basically just relying on the fellow man not to loot your house and kill you. Great, sounds like a lovely society. It isn't functional either, there will always be someone seeking power.
@TheGreatDeciever55 I agree totally with you, too many people think that communism is exactly the way things are run in North Korea and that you will starve your country dry and piss off everyone. Fucking Fox and their conservative bias. You are right, not many people actually understand the concept of actual Communism. Everyone simply jumps the gun and thinks its a dictatorship and everyone is poor.That isn't it at all.
communism is only altruistic in its politics and distribution of NEEDS. i dont see how you could have overlooked this, if you did infact study communism. one of Marx's theories (although im not sure it was part of the manifesto) was that essentailly, people will be allowed their nessesities as a right. and any materialistic gains, are extra effort in which you put into society. its not about denying your own pleasures--its about deny your own pleasures if they inhibit the peoples rightsandsafety
@lexaeus88 ....you must be high off your ass..people die under communism??...ooohh good point. i forgot that capatalism inevitably leads to immortality.--- People die in 3rd world countries at an expodential rate. --And you probably think: "well, what the hell has that got to do with North American capatalism?" But have you ever wondered how countries that are incredibly rich with resources, can barely feed their youth?? Maybe its because America steals their resources and sells it back to them.
@TheGreatDeciever55 You show a marijuana leaf in your avy, and you're titled "The Great Deciever." Geez, this won't be easy.
China, Cuba, Russia, North Korea; people die under communism, not like under capitalism, because it deals with a free market and individual human rights. There is no collective under capitalism/free market.
When I see China's slums, I see that communism is a failure. If people were more responsible and would work hard, they would be in a better situation in the USA.
@lexaeus88 oh sorry man, for some reason i replied to a commment not even aimed at me. but anyway, your last point there...absolutely bull. I work my freakin ass off at NexGen(we make hoses haha) and i get paid shit...when my supervisor, --with an expodentially larger check then me-- basically sits on his ass and WATCHES me work. Capatalist society's foundation is strictly to become powerful and wealthy by exploiting people who work like grunts.
@TheGreatDeciever55 And in regards to the Chron leaf on my channel....you people say you have "free" market.....you cant even roll up and burn a plant....ooh yeah you guys have lots of freedom. haha the only difference between a dictatorship and democracy, is that the democratical tyrants conceal their tyranny. So whats better? knowing who the tyrant is to behead him...of having a tyrant run rampant but everyone thinks he's a good man??
@TheGreatDeciever55 Ah, the facism of the hope for change. Yes, in your desire for communism, you do not see the many horrors that you do not see coming. Millions have died for your precious communism. You dare be naive enough to think it can't happen yet again?
I appreciate this video and what you are trying to do. But your misguided with alot of the stuff you talk about. First of all,--as an example-- if somebody comes up with a theory like: "lets make a lemonade stand to make money"..its typically a good theory, because it will make money. But if somebody comes over and starts stealing lemons from your stand--then inevitably your theory will fail. Like communism. second>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I would have to disagree about what you say Communism is in regards to altruism. It is more about equal wages for equal effort. Ideally it prevents capitalistic monopoly. And when you reference capitalism late in your video, you say someting like "theres some in poverty, but not most, at least in the us" This does not negate the fact that capitalism causes a large portion of poverty worldwide, and the US profits from this, mainly just the wealthy elite
@mooseutoo, Communism is pure fantasy, It takes the human psyche and forces it into a political mode of thinking (Fuck you care about others...) which is not natural human intention. What is the point of me going to college for 8 years to become a surgeon if I'm inevitably going to end with grocery stock pay? Communism is plain stupid and like XO said, it's failed everytime that it's been put into practice.
@AggressiveNarcissism you think communist always are engulfed in a selfless political mindstate? Thats like saying: Capatalist politicians dont go home at night, they stay working and constantly are molding new ways to concieve better political agendas 24/7. (which is horseshit) People are obviously free to indulge in their pleasures--unless it means stealing and hurting THE PEOPLE for materialistic gains. You guys just dont really know what your speaking about..... and you'll probably run shit.
@TheGreatDeciever55, Communism has never and i mean never done anything good for the people except leave them in a state of hopelessness(which communism is basically about). Communism is like Capitalism except you can't get ahead, you can starve but never achieve wealth. It's actually pretty silly, it's like busting my ass to improve my life from the state it is only to find out, that it can't happen. Capitalism is the complete opposite, it's an endless form of possibilities.
@AggressiveNarcissism Exactly, with individual human rights to boot. I'm a conservative, yet I don't get into business stuff so I can't be called a greedy bigot. I want to become a Dr. and be able to reap the rewards for my struggle.
@lexaeus88, You know what's even more hilarious about these so-called "Communists"? is that they don't even reside in third-world nations... Most of the pretend commies live in Canada or the good ole' USA... What's even more ironic is, they are using an American invention....YOUTUBE. This just keeps getting better and better...
@AggressiveNarcissism I just hate how they want communism reinstated. Hell, even my ENGL college teacher was hardcore pro-communism. Don't they get what happened as a result of communism in the past? Are all those deaths from such a wonderful concept worthless? This stuff really gets me angry---it's like talking to fascist NAZIS!!! Nazis and communists are both evil and wicked.
@lexaeus88 man sorry, but i think your a fucking goof. no doubt. your capatalist society CURRENTLY is starving millions, so they can have their fucking benz's. Your actually projecting your sheepness on me you fuck. I in no way advocate how communist LEADERS (a principle that has no existence in Marx's theory) murder and starved people. How wicked is it, for americas to sit, talk about 3rd world countries, and act like country isnt keeping those countries resources for ransom...read maan
@AggressiveNarcissism oh yeah. I dont live in a 3rd world country, if i did i couldnt possibly be on this shit. And at 13 i cant possibly be a political activist. But i gotta spread my shit somehow, because people like yourself dont need to be eliminated-just taught. Let go of your environmental influences. realize that your news is tainted..and your leaders are materialistic cowards. They cant be tyrants--there too soft. So they decieve your ass till they have contracts on your whole life.
why some peoples need to walk whit bare foot for that others can have luxurius cars?why peoples need to live 35 years for that others can live 90?why peoples need to die straving for that others can have a luxurius dinner?do you want that?do you want that a shitload of peoples suffer for that a minory can have a lot of nice stuff?cause that is the capitalist principle now the communist principle is make that no one suffer just to make a small amount of peoples rich
I am not an athiest, but I agree with you fully that communism is bad. Do you have any thoughts about socialism? If you haven't made a video about that I would like to see it.
@HybridD91 Well, from what I have experienced, virtually all athiests and liberals I have debated agree with socialism and communism. My English teacher in college agreed with communism, was from San Francisco, and no matter what I said he wouldn't reconsider. With communism, there can be no existence of religion. I found it interesting that an athiest would oppose communism.
That whole thing you said about "not being considered poor if you own a tv, yet you don't have enough money for food." Well happiness is acquired in many different ways some people use tv as a form of happiness that they seek in their own democracy as a way to maybe escape from their problems for an hour or two, that, and being able to afford food at the same time is probably ideal as far as basic comfort goes.
Now, you not considering them poor for it is kind of communism in itself you define poor as being fed but not happy , the bare minimum thing that every other person on the planet should get is food and shouldn't be considered a charity case no matter how full their belly's are yet how dismal their lives are due to their own lack of happiness or what they feel is the bare minimum standard of living. To me, it sounds a lot like your friend "bob."
Yeah those bankers are all about anarchism. There's nothing they like more than the people who want to remove the very monopoly on the use of force that enables them to illegitimately extract wealth.
@XOmniverse Lol, yeah, I'm fairly certain they love Capitalist Anarchy. Which isn't anarchy, because it has a hierarchy in the system itself. Having a limited/no government doesn't automatically make it anarchist. You're meaning to tell me that the rich elite wouldn't LOVE a system in which there is no rules on how they make money besides competition?
Communism goes all the way back to Ancient Sparta. Iron bars were currency, slaves, forenigners, and women had the right to property, marriage, religion and education, and it was governed by an oligarchy and councial. It had monarchy but there were two kings.
Communism never did anything right? Womens rights, rising living standards, rising literacy rates, rising medical care. All those things are wrong then?
Communism made the USSR collapse? Communism, or the socialism aimed at communism that was the USSR, was what defeated Nazi Germany. Capitalist reform is what made the USSR collapse. If you look at Russia now (cappy now) you will see it is worse off then when it was the USSR.
The problem with the critique that the theory is bad because it fails in practice as applied here is that Marxism (which I assume is the particular brand of Communism you're discussing) has never been applied in any form close to what it looks like in theory. Simply put, Marx predicts that after capitalism undermines the traditional values of a culture and reduces human relations to those of mere economic exchange, the proletariat will become fed up and take over the means of production. ...
But in the 20th century (particularly within the Soviet Union and China) Communism was parroted as salvation for the peasants (farmers, villagers, typically religious, traditional people). Russia wasn't industrialized in 1917 when the Bolsheviks took over. There was no capitalist infrastructure to appropriate. Similar situation in China. We really haven't seen Marxism. Strangely, we're seeing a much slower liberalization of the capitalist system. Marx saw Communism as a historical inevitability.
Second of all, you expose your ideeas on very little information that you have about communism. You don't know anything about it, if would have known you would have understood that it is a lot easier in communism, after a bit of sacrifice, than in captalism, where the rich dance over the poor. When a child is born, does he have any ideea about how to get himself richer or anything like that ? No, people are like that because someone was like that once, and forced everyone that way.
I watched your vid, and got more and more surprised at how dumb you are...
First of all
Communism doesn't take away happiness. You just say that, but think like this. If everyone would, for a bit of time, forget about themselves and think about the others, we would all live happily after that. It takes JUST A BIT of sacrifice, not a constant life in a terribile distopia.
sorry to burst your bubble, but communism does suck, thats why it has failed numerous times ... to be forced to pay for someone else, no matter how hard working or lazy they are, and to get paid the same, is bullshit ... fuck communism, i walk alone
people think Communism is nothing than some evil dictator that kill hole punch of people like Stalin...Blame to Stalin!!!Lenin and Marx where great people that where the perfect leaders to lead russia to happyness...But now,Russia is suffering by the crisis!!There would be no suffering in Russia if Communism was back...And democratie is nothing than simple lie.If u vote on someone he always do things nobody cares,or build nukes like in Iran...And 75% of all voting are fake...
I do not know about other forms of communism, but Marxism aims at the liberation of the individual, to restore him to his full-self and end his subjugation to forces which are beyond his control. This,of course, does not validate the methods that Marxism advocates, but I thought it was worth noting.
I've seen the title of video and closed it,no,communism is not wonderful system,its a good theory with many flaws.Democracy is also good theory with even more flaws.
Many people think socialism is not different but is,just look at Ex Yugoslavia. Socialism FTW!
Ever heard about the iterated prisoner dilemma, even a rational person would be nice to others. A goal is not itself a rational thing. And most humans are somewhat altruistic, think about it if not then why would people help their friends and other people without an imidiat reward of some kind.
The truth is the bible is false; all regions that rely on the bible are false. Reject the god of Abraham that Jews, Christians and Muslims worship. To Him be an anti-theist and blasphemer. If God does not like it let him do something. God will do nothing, not even complain.
Churches quote the bible, which is a compilation of second hand false stories and ancient mythologies. They frighten you and take your money. Keep your money and resist their foolishness.
As i see it Communism turns our society in to a large colony of ants. The government decides the peoples fate which is to work communism kills its self dead.
I think people would be much more altruistic if people weren't pitted against one another in an unnatural struggle for survival, which is the situation they are placed in by a capitalism. More people would willingly help others if they weren't so afraid of being one paycheck away from homelessness themselves.
badmuffy, the struggle for survival is natural. Every living thing on this planet in nature struggles for it's own survival and competes with other living things. You are only seeing the competition of capitalism. You are failing to see the cooperation in capitalism. You're missing the other side of the coin. No product or technology can be developed by one person. It takes thousands of people working together in their own self interest to produce a product that improves the lives of consumers
why is it that when another person has an opposing opinion such as yours, do you need to call them names, make fun of them, communism can only be explained logically using concepts of alienation and such philosophized by hegel and darwinism, which ultimately gives us this quintessential human nature you speak so fondly of omniverse.
i am a communist and in evolutionary theory or darwinism, a species, in order to survive and reproduce, must be altruistic. Must be willing to give some of what they have to those people who are not so fortunate. You are an anarchist, are you an individualist anarchist like thoreau or a collectivist? Anarcho-communist is, specifically, what i am and i think in a society where we all help each other out in such a manner that some might conceive as communalism is overall, a better society.
Where i think you are wrong though is where you say selfishness is the quintessential human nature. In darwinism, however, a species, individual and collective, would need to be both selfish (to provide for their well-being) and altruistic (to contribute to the species so that it may prolong it's existence.) It is wrong to say we are all fully selfish, because, if we were selfish, the species would deconstruct and be taken off of the evolutionary tree of life
rbianco95: "Spam don't u see? You've been brainwashed by the government to think that communism is bad!! "
Don't you see, you're brainwashed by your Commy / Anarchist affiliates into thinking we're being brainwashed. It may not be true but get off your high horse and think about it for a minute.
Communism takes and takes from the earths natural recourses and its own in-till it has nothing left it is very inefficient and is defiantly not the future of humanity its an outdated form of government.
all the attepts to create communism (thus far) have been based on leninism and I agree, leninist theory is a failure and that's why the USSR, the PRC, and all the others have sucked. HOWEVER! This does not immediately discredit marxism or marxist theory. Marx himself was against cults of personality, state terror, or the leninist idea of centralism. It is lenin's "democratic" centralism that is the key failure in leninist theory.
Please read more about the distinction between marx and lenin.
@XOmniverse exactly. This guy is suggesting that the government brainwashed you into thinking that more power for itself (communism) is bad. That would be like Eminem brainwashing you into thinking that rap music is bad.
actually, communists would like to work for themselves than another person. Communists are not lazy, we believe everyone deserves an equal share, hence, communism is a stateless and classless society where the means of production, produced by the proletariat workers, and distribution are controlled communally, within a communal society, sort of like communalism, though not as primitive.
Nobody, except for miserable people, lives to appease everyone they talk to. Having close relationships may be important, but not the "altruism of the majority". If a person doesn't even know the majority of people, why would it matter if they liked him or her? Especially if that person has a lot of close friends and a happy family at home.
All these "individualists" just excuse the basic, fundamental altruism of society are deluded and seek credit for their ego where credit is not due. It's just warped logic used to excuse their selfishness.
What is "altruism of the majority"? And why should anti-social people be a part of society? They do not have to be, it's just a pattern of exploitation.
It isnt about social acceptance or appreciate it's the realization youre dependent on others.
"It isnt about social acceptance or appreciate it's the realization youre dependent on others."
Of course I'm dependent on others. But as long as I pay them for services, I owe them nothing. All "dependency" is through exchange between individuals. "Society" itself is made up of individuals pursuing their own self interest, and by doing so they benefit society as a whole.
The majority of people being alruistic. Meaning they find personal fulfillment in contributing and care for the whole of society.
You want to extend the social contract to purely personal interest which is counter productive and regressive. By definition your social contract is eternally conflicted as you want to pay them the least amount possible and they want to make the most amount possible. Like a dog chasing its tail.
Self interest should be a biological imperative, not a social.
Communism should actually be great not only in the theoretical sense but also in the practical sense; It does not work because of greedy fat-cats suck as yourself...you Yanks tend to commonly confuse communism and socialism as one, but the truth is that communism primarily stands for equality.
Elhombresinunnombre 1 week ago
i hope lenin finds you...
homerun443 4 weeks ago
Communism was designed to function for the dictators who rise above the people and dictate what the people can do, what the people can own, what the people can think, etc. Communist dictators are the case in point for why communism is evil and why it can never work. Notice that Stalin and Lenin wanted for nothing while a great majority of the people literally starved "for the greater good". You will never see a starving, suffering dictator in a Communism society. Dictators really don't care.
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
I 100% agree with you that people are selfish. However, it's not necessarily due to people being selfish that is the reason communism can't work. Not every person who works hard for what they have is "selfish" because they don't want to "share" the fruit of their hard labor with the guy over there who is totally able-bodied but refuses to work and carries a sign that reads "Share the wealth" when he has no idea what goes into earning that wealth in the first place. I'm against lazy handouts.
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
well, i dont think communism is super bad, we havent tried this in a free way yet. we have had communism with dictatorship, but not communism with freedom. In some way it worked well, but lack of freedom made it suck.
when that said, you mention us just wanne reproduce and that stuff. i think we have the ability to take a stepp forward and move away from that. you cant compare us to random animals. we are able to think, adapt and evolve. If we choose capitalism we will evolve in that way etc
Troforso 4 months ago
@Troforso The reason you will not see communism without freedom is because you will not find a person perfect enough to overcome the tempted greed of his/her own heart. Even if you could have communism with freedom for a time, it would be short-lived because eventually a person would take power who is just like the previous failed communist societies of the past: Stalin, Lenin, Mau, Hitler... I think we all know how those ended. No thanks, I don't want to chance it in my lifetime.
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
@CautiousSaint im not so sure about that, most off this socalled communist states we have had, did come to power through millitary revolution, now that usually means dictatorship straight away. If it is the people who deside everything, than a psycho with powerlust cant come to absolute power.
Troforso 4 months ago
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Troforso 4 months ago
you so dont know what marx's theory............people are EXTREMELY selfish because of the structure of our society.
1guitarkid 5 months ago
@1guitarkid Why do you live in this society then if you don't ilke its structure? You don't like being in one of the still freest countries in the world despite it problems? You could use a dose of history. :)
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
Lol "Objectivism" because even assholes need an ideology.
candistyx 5 months ago
@candistyx I wonder if you realize the irony of your comment.
XOmniverse 5 months ago 2
@XOmniverse You're suggesting I reach the truly magnificent levels of douchbaggery required to be an objectivist...
I dunno, I like sharing and stuff and don't scream "rape" when I have to pay taxes...
candistyx 5 months ago
@candistyx I'm going to go ahead and block you, but the irony was that you were being an asshole while being critical of assholes.
XOmniverse 5 months ago
@XOmniverse <i hope Lenin fints you....
homerun443 4 weeks ago
some people think that communism is such a great thing. if that was the case, we would never hear about people attempting to escape their communist countries
snizzlefrazzy 6 months ago
@snizzlefrazzy thats because its dictatorship, no random person want to live in a place with a powerhungry dicator
Troforso 4 months ago
@Troforso Right on!
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
Laughable because these arguments have been dismissed a million times. They still seem to be dominant in America. Way to go, no healthcare, shit minimum wages, prison system, racism during natural calamity, police tyranny, cia involvement in other countries. Seriously stop listening to the mainstream media you've got there and do some real reading of Marx, Lennin and Trotsky. You would laugh and cry at this video looking at yourself at the same time.
kaushiksays 6 months ago
@kaushiksays Cuz the only two options are communism and the American system...
XOmniverse 6 months ago
@kaushiksays i aint saying that communism aint possible. but you cant support the practice off communism that has been throughout the world. dictatorship always end bad.
Troforso 4 months ago
@kaushiksays And is millions of people starving to death and being shot in the head for not wanting to be 100% ruled (nearly down to their daily bowel movements) by a dictatorship some kind of wonderful alternative?
CautiousSaint 4 months ago
@kaushiksays Communism fails because it is a logical fallacy. Period. That is why it is a bad social-economic theory. Communism does not work because it assumes that no one has power or that everyone has an equal share of power. However, by necessity, power is given to individuals in order to get things done, from resource production/distribution to diplomacy to defense. Even when one looks at communism while removing the human element, it doesn't make sense, even as a theory.
DistendedPerinium 4 months ago
communism is worshipping one person like a god
but all political shit sucks ass but communism is worst
MistaBobbyH 7 months ago
Communism can ONLY work in very tiny communities of 60 people or less. It fails if you are dealing with hundreds or even thousands of people.
shinokiba 11 months ago
hail satan and whoever made this video! capitalism is the best thing satan ever created. i hate the poor so god damn much and i hope they all get abortions. fuck. them.
christ was a communist hippie moron.
hailsatan666abortion 1 year ago
@hailsatan666abortion Read the Gospels again: Jesus was far from communist.
moltoallegro19 10 months ago
Because greed, for lack of a better word, is good.
pckrfan93 1 year ago
i agree with you many socialists do scare me
AndrejStudent3116590 1 year ago
@galilsnap I meant to say societies on a tribal level as in communes, etc.
PesiCool 1 year ago
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PesiCool 1 year ago
One could say that free market capitalism is bad in theory because in every society that it has been implemented in, to some degree or another , morphs into some form of corporatism. The united states is a prime example
Pentazoid111 1 year ago
Good points. I think different types of people gravitate towards different philosophies even regardless of their upbringing.
HoGraz 1 year ago
@galilsnap
I know that. I wasn't saying anything about whether Leninism was good (I don't support communism in general), just reminding people that it existed.
vaguelyhumanoid 1 year ago
@galilsnap
Before Stalinism, there was Leninism.
vaguelyhumanoid 1 year ago
I just love how out of all these comments from our communist friends barely any of them really address the main point in the video.
spol07 1 year ago
I guess communism would work if we were biologically collectivist like ants, but we are not ants. The one error that I see my buddies make so often is that they think money automatically equals goods and services, so if the rich has all this fiat money then we should be able to survive under communism for a while even without anyone working. They just don't understand that it's the production part of the story that actually matter, not all the wealth that the rich people have accumulated.
spol07 1 year ago
A few problems.
First communism has been done in small tribal societies ( I think there size & primitiveness is the only reason they are able to)& Humans are animals, but we are a cooperative species by our nature & ultimately our goal is to pass on our genetics. Realize that all humans have almost identical DNA, so aiding others in survival & reproduction does meet this requirement.
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
Also, it was failed in practice because nobody took a second to actually think about what they were doing. Communism is great, the only reason it has failed in practice is because capitalist society which is more common, rejected these societies and would not allow them to even attempt to co-exist peacefully. No, that makes too much sense. Capitalists have to do the good ol' american thing: Be exactly like us, do what we do or fuck you you aren't allowed to be our friend.
CadetBrandon 1 year ago
@CadetBrandon i agree with that shit..but Thers multiple reasons why "communism" has failed--partly because it hasent ever really existed. but A HUGE part of why it didnt work--is because of all-powerful greed. Not only from outside capatalist opposition--but from inner greed. Its funny how everyone jumps on the "Communism is evil" bandwagon due to the dictator-run communist countries--WHEN THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF A CLASSLESS SOCIETY. I urge you to read up on Operation northwood>>>>>
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@CadetBrandon in which the american government accepted this project---in which they stage fake terrorist attacks (some say they may have ACTUALLY caused some) in order to convine the main populous to invade cuba---since its communism was fucking with southamerican/ U.S business. Its funny because JFK was against it....Look where he is now haha.---It seems quite remincent of the 9/11 attacks....its odd that the U.S was funding the taliban up until MAY of 2001--only 3 months b4 the attacks.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
Communism is not thought of as "a great system to great for mankind to operate under watch this and you'll see what i mean
RussainCommunist 1 year ago
Communism has nothing to do with selfless giving. Selfless giving is the wet dream of reactionaries, who wish for the "good old days" of pre-modern society. Also, Communism has nothing to do with altruism. On the contrary, capitalism is based more on accounts of altruism than communism. Communism as a movement arises when the workers themselves adopt radical egoism; but since every single one of them is socially weaker than their employers, they can only fulfill their egoistic desires together.
Tarvoc 1 year ago 3
Aha i was definitely going to write something in response to this tired argument. But it looks like TheGreatDeciever took you little ones to school.
VrilMasterXXX 1 year ago
That variable that you're talking about the ignorance of society, which can't see the benefits of communism.
marHAVIK 1 year ago
ill agree that communism in general ,as it appears, does not work according to such standards. however, a communistic economy would be a great improvement for america.
whitestman 1 year ago
Locked-The-Fuck-Down
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
i figure if this guy can finally get it, maybe one day we wont have to kill eachother over land and resources. and maybe...just maybe..we wont die in a nuclear holocaust. fingers crossed.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
So im wondering what the fuck XOmnivere thinks of this shit. Am off my fucking rocker? haha
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
and for those who say "people die under communism".... No shit. But I would say more people die because of capitalism than of communism. Capitalism exploits people worldwide and has been a known cause to overthrow democratically elected officials to replace them with dictators who favor corporations like The United Fruit Company in Latin America. Look up Juan Peron. For someone to think that just because Americans live well, capitalism must be pro-human rights and ignorant and niave
mooseutoo 1 year ago
@mooseutoo That's a load of bullshit. Over 60 million died under Mao, not including anyone else!
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@mooseutoo you know whats funny, this is purely speculative of whatever sources it was from; but some people have proof or think they have proof that America funded and helped certain communist leaders impose their tyranny. Apparently alot of different types of social systems were being highly considered by massive amounts of people (not just communism) so America inevitably needed to demonize a seperate system so they wont lose their fucking mansions. I mean...sound pretty reasonable to me.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
I believe that when there is no moral compass, concepts such as communism will always presist and spread. Communism is anti-religion; Karl Marx only believed in the "species-being."
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 buddy....what? Communism theory isnt anti-Religion. It more like: anti-religion-controlling-the-society in which its practiced. and the stuff about Marx believing in species-being..i dont know what the fuck that has to do with anything. if anything that supports my point, in which biologically, humans dont have to conform to their natures--in fact society will actually create an environment in which human nature is crafted, rather then hereditarily gained...please elaborate.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 You still don't get it. Communism is true bullshit for the masses... It's been like that everytime it's been put into play. The people of N.Korea are illeterate brain-washed retards... They actually believe Kim Jong il is a god. If you look at documentaries from People from around the world visiting such a shithole, the people their are not even aloud to look outsiders in the eye for fear of jail-time in labor camps.. Is that "Good" communism?
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism maan. this has nothing to do with what happened with communism in the past--thats a result of tyranic rule, which has no part in Marx's theories--this whole video is about the THEORY and concept of communism. You think communist societies killed a lot? what about Great britian since the 1800's? thats alot of blood stained hands. Its about peoples disregard for life. Communism is an excellent concept.. but dont twist it, im not a commie...im a sentient being, nothing else.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55, If you watched this video, you should of learned something. You commies always put Communism on this pedestal and claim "Well, that wasn't true Communism, it was just some ---Insert here---." Fact is, they were Communist parties. 1. The party was Communist. 2. The people believe thing's were going to happen for the better and 3. They were wrong. So why even try to push the ideology when in practice, the theory is garbage and should be trashed.
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism Its you who doesnt get it. You keep saying because it was the result of millions starving and murdered is why Communism theory is bad. When your Capatalist theory starves and murders expodentially more. Its just cuz its not in their OWN country. And yet you brain fried dummies watch them on t.v. give them a fucking 1.20 a day donation, and think your fucking wonderful people. its time you grow the fuck up. JESUS IM ALMOST 14 YEARS OLD and ive got more fucking smarts.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55, Well, your parents must be pretty dumb then. How do they let a 13 or better yet, how does a 13 year old dwell in the anti-humans rights theory of Communism... Great job mom. Look Communism kills it's own people. The "This isn't real Communism" fails everytime because everything the world has seen under the label Communism has failed and abused human-rights.
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism Do you actually understand what Communism is? Stop listening to this videos' dated arguments from what he thinks human nature and do your research. Communism has never been achieved, not even the Socialist nations like the USSR and the peoples Republic Of China claimed that. They were in a Socialist transitional state.
rimfa123 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism Its like listening to a train wreck maaan....first of all, i'll knock you out if you talk shit about my mom again haha. and second obviously you arent understanding the same shit ive told you about..hmm..3 or 4 times already. Communism--concieved mostly in part by Karl Marx, hasnt really ever existed. If you use blueprints for a rocket, but decide your not gunna put an engine in, THEN YOUR FUCKED, and didnt really make a rocket. The killing had nothing to do with it.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 I notice you refer to places like cuba quite a few time as failed communist states. But you seem to miss any historical context. When Castro came into power he was not a communist, but America labeled him as such because he did not want american corporations exploiting his people, and the country pretty much turned to shit because of America's interactions with the country.
mooseutoo 1 year ago
@mooseutoo Again, don't blame America. Castro is a communist and a tyrant. Let me guess, America is to blame for Hitler's rise to powers as well as Mao, right? Don't make me laugh.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 so gotta spread some facts again. its documented that America corporation did buisnees with Hitler and his Nazi party, not officially but probably to support their military, you really think these people with all that cash (whom can pay off consriptionists) give a fuck about sending their own people to death, when they kill millions of others? hahah...you dont really know what your talking about...
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
and who said their down for anarchism..? you fucking rep that shit. but if it happened you'd be locked up in your basement with a fucking shotty.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
so.... have any of you actually studied the principles of communism? Because very few of you (including this guy in the video) seem to know shit all about it. I cant debate this shit, with people whom only know communism from what fox news tells them. hahaha. But seriously, this video was incredibly bias, and really had no strong points at all. how could it be (in your mind) that everyone in communism selflessly gives to the community..and yet everyone is personally poor and unhappy?....
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago 2
@TheGreatDeciever55 I am an anarchist.
People aren't selfless. There is no such thing as "everyone selflessly giving to the community."
I suggest reading some books on economics if you are genuinely interested in why communism fails. I'd start with something like Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal by Ayn Rand.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse my point exactly... there is no such thing as people undeniably selfless to their community. Thats what i was trying to say maaaan. you seemed to support the fact that communism support complete altruisticness. and i was saying: Fuck no, communism supports people supporting their community over monetarily gaining as first nature...not only nature.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 Looks break down Communism in short. 1. No human rights. 2. Government has total control with which they don't have answer to anybody(Dictator). 3. Propaganda, oh this is a good one, State controlled media (N.Korea, China, Cuba, etc). I agree all media nowadays is propaganda but Communist countries are truly state-run propaganda. 4. Living condition, what type of government produces the worst living conditions? you guessed it, Communism. It's a fail ideology, get over it.
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@XOmniverse Anarchy is the most ridiculous ideal in existance. It doesn't even count, basically it means they believe that society should just fuck ourselves over and head back to the stone age and kill each other. No authority, basically just relying on the fellow man not to loot your house and kill you. Great, sounds like a lovely society. It isn't functional either, there will always be someone seeking power.
CadetBrandon 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 I agree totally with you, too many people think that communism is exactly the way things are run in North Korea and that you will starve your country dry and piss off everyone. Fucking Fox and their conservative bias. You are right, not many people actually understand the concept of actual Communism. Everyone simply jumps the gun and thinks its a dictatorship and everyone is poor.That isn't it at all.
CadetBrandon 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 Eat shit and die commie
xTRAPJAWx 1 year ago
@xTRAPJAWx Haha---i thought i was human?
Oh well you obviously have me pegged.
peace.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 you should go live in vietnam. they'll treat you right.
ChinaKing147 1 year ago
@ChinaKing147 haha, that's lame.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
People die under communism. I don't want communism to permeate anymore.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
communism is only altruistic in its politics and distribution of NEEDS. i dont see how you could have overlooked this, if you did infact study communism. one of Marx's theories (although im not sure it was part of the manifesto) was that essentailly, people will be allowed their nessesities as a right. and any materialistic gains, are extra effort in which you put into society. its not about denying your own pleasures--its about deny your own pleasures if they inhibit the peoples rightsandsafety
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 Why do people die then?
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 ....you must be high off your ass..people die under communism??...ooohh good point. i forgot that capatalism inevitably leads to immortality.--- People die in 3rd world countries at an expodential rate. --And you probably think: "well, what the hell has that got to do with North American capatalism?" But have you ever wondered how countries that are incredibly rich with resources, can barely feed their youth?? Maybe its because America steals their resources and sells it back to them.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 You show a marijuana leaf in your avy, and you're titled "The Great Deciever." Geez, this won't be easy.
China, Cuba, Russia, North Korea; people die under communism, not like under capitalism, because it deals with a free market and individual human rights. There is no collective under capitalism/free market.
When I see China's slums, I see that communism is a failure. If people were more responsible and would work hard, they would be in a better situation in the USA.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 oh sorry man, for some reason i replied to a commment not even aimed at me. but anyway, your last point there...absolutely bull. I work my freakin ass off at NexGen(we make hoses haha) and i get paid shit...when my supervisor, --with an expodentially larger check then me-- basically sits on his ass and WATCHES me work. Capatalist society's foundation is strictly to become powerful and wealthy by exploiting people who work like grunts.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 And in regards to the Chron leaf on my channel....you people say you have "free" market.....you cant even roll up and burn a plant....ooh yeah you guys have lots of freedom. haha the only difference between a dictatorship and democracy, is that the democratical tyrants conceal their tyranny. So whats better? knowing who the tyrant is to behead him...of having a tyrant run rampant but everyone thinks he's a good man??
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 You're a good sheep, you know that? Sheep don't get slaughtered under communism, either, right?
PSSST~~~ This is sarcasm.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 Ah, the facism of the hope for change. Yes, in your desire for communism, you do not see the many horrors that you do not see coming. Millions have died for your precious communism. You dare be naive enough to think it can't happen yet again?
lexaeus88 1 year ago
I appreciate this video and what you are trying to do. But your misguided with alot of the stuff you talk about. First of all,--as an example-- if somebody comes up with a theory like: "lets make a lemonade stand to make money"..its typically a good theory, because it will make money. But if somebody comes over and starts stealing lemons from your stand--then inevitably your theory will fail. Like communism. second>>>>>>>>>>>>>
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
I would have to disagree about what you say Communism is in regards to altruism. It is more about equal wages for equal effort. Ideally it prevents capitalistic monopoly. And when you reference capitalism late in your video, you say someting like "theres some in poverty, but not most, at least in the us" This does not negate the fact that capitalism causes a large portion of poverty worldwide, and the US profits from this, mainly just the wealthy elite
mooseutoo 1 year ago
@mooseutoo, Communism is pure fantasy, It takes the human psyche and forces it into a political mode of thinking (Fuck you care about others...) which is not natural human intention. What is the point of me going to college for 8 years to become a surgeon if I'm inevitably going to end with grocery stock pay? Communism is plain stupid and like XO said, it's failed everytime that it's been put into practice.
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism you think communist always are engulfed in a selfless political mindstate? Thats like saying: Capatalist politicians dont go home at night, they stay working and constantly are molding new ways to concieve better political agendas 24/7. (which is horseshit) People are obviously free to indulge in their pleasures--unless it means stealing and hurting THE PEOPLE for materialistic gains. You guys just dont really know what your speaking about..... and you'll probably run shit.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55, Communism has never and i mean never done anything good for the people except leave them in a state of hopelessness(which communism is basically about). Communism is like Capitalism except you can't get ahead, you can starve but never achieve wealth. It's actually pretty silly, it's like busting my ass to improve my life from the state it is only to find out, that it can't happen. Capitalism is the complete opposite, it's an endless form of possibilities.
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism Exactly, with individual human rights to boot. I'm a conservative, yet I don't get into business stuff so I can't be called a greedy bigot. I want to become a Dr. and be able to reap the rewards for my struggle.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88, You know what's even more hilarious about these so-called "Communists"? is that they don't even reside in third-world nations... Most of the pretend commies live in Canada or the good ole' USA... What's even more ironic is, they are using an American invention....YOUTUBE. This just keeps getting better and better...
AggressiveNarcissism 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism I just hate how they want communism reinstated. Hell, even my ENGL college teacher was hardcore pro-communism. Don't they get what happened as a result of communism in the past? Are all those deaths from such a wonderful concept worthless? This stuff really gets me angry---it's like talking to fascist NAZIS!!! Nazis and communists are both evil and wicked.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 man sorry, but i think your a fucking goof. no doubt. your capatalist society CURRENTLY is starving millions, so they can have their fucking benz's. Your actually projecting your sheepness on me you fuck. I in no way advocate how communist LEADERS (a principle that has no existence in Marx's theory) murder and starved people. How wicked is it, for americas to sit, talk about 3rd world countries, and act like country isnt keeping those countries resources for ransom...read maan
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
@TheGreatDeciever55 That's really sad, man.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@AggressiveNarcissism oh yeah. I dont live in a 3rd world country, if i did i couldnt possibly be on this shit. And at 13 i cant possibly be a political activist. But i gotta spread my shit somehow, because people like yourself dont need to be eliminated-just taught. Let go of your environmental influences. realize that your news is tainted..and your leaders are materialistic cowards. They cant be tyrants--there too soft. So they decieve your ass till they have contracts on your whole life.
TheGreatDeciever55 1 year ago
why some peoples need to walk whit bare foot for that others can have luxurius cars?why peoples need to live 35 years for that others can live 90?why peoples need to die straving for that others can have a luxurius dinner?do you want that?do you want that a shitload of peoples suffer for that a minory can have a lot of nice stuff?cause that is the capitalist principle now the communist principle is make that no one suffer just to make a small amount of peoples rich
onsholo 1 year ago
@onsholo Communism makes everyone barefoot. Not an improvement.
XOmniverse 1 year ago 4
Isn't communism, democracy on all levels? Whats bad about that?
sniped101 1 year ago
I am not an athiest, but I agree with you fully that communism is bad. Do you have any thoughts about socialism? If you haven't made a video about that I would like to see it.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
@lexaeus88 "I am not an atheist but I agree with you fully that communism is bad". Huh?
HybridD91 1 year ago
@HybridD91 Well, from what I have experienced, virtually all athiests and liberals I have debated agree with socialism and communism. My English teacher in college agreed with communism, was from San Francisco, and no matter what I said he wouldn't reconsider. With communism, there can be no existence of religion. I found it interesting that an athiest would oppose communism.
lexaeus88 1 year ago
Death to communism!!!
LordoftheKaty 1 year ago
That whole thing you said about "not being considered poor if you own a tv, yet you don't have enough money for food." Well happiness is acquired in many different ways some people use tv as a form of happiness that they seek in their own democracy as a way to maybe escape from their problems for an hour or two, that, and being able to afford food at the same time is probably ideal as far as basic comfort goes.
BooDontFront 1 year ago
Now, you not considering them poor for it is kind of communism in itself you define poor as being fed but not happy , the bare minimum thing that every other person on the planet should get is food and shouldn't be considered a charity case no matter how full their belly's are yet how dismal their lives are due to their own lack of happiness or what they feel is the bare minimum standard of living. To me, it sounds a lot like your friend "bob."
BooDontFront 1 year ago
theres nothing like a well reasoned argument to calm me down after a day of arguing with idiots
lol
darris321 2 years ago
lol you cannot just base all your information on zeitgeist...there is a right or wrong whether your a king or a kong
Thizzilin 2 years ago
You are a perfect example of the type of person the banking elite LOVE.
Law12389 2 years ago
Yeah those bankers are all about anarchism. There's nothing they like more than the people who want to remove the very monopoly on the use of force that enables them to illegitimately extract wealth.
Man do you have ME nailed.
XOmniverse 2 years ago 2
@XOmniverse Lol, yeah, I'm fairly certain they love Capitalist Anarchy. Which isn't anarchy, because it has a hierarchy in the system itself. Having a limited/no government doesn't automatically make it anarchist. You're meaning to tell me that the rich elite wouldn't LOVE a system in which there is no rules on how they make money besides competition?
cogar48 1 year ago
Communism goes all the way back to Ancient Sparta. Iron bars were currency, slaves, forenigners, and women had the right to property, marriage, religion and education, and it was governed by an oligarchy and councial. It had monarchy but there were two kings.
CosmoShidan 2 years ago
hahaha. good video. the bob example was perfect. youre very smart :)
00melissacoleman 2 years ago
Communism never did anything right? Womens rights, rising living standards, rising literacy rates, rising medical care. All those things are wrong then?
Communism made the USSR collapse? Communism, or the socialism aimed at communism that was the USSR, was what defeated Nazi Germany. Capitalist reform is what made the USSR collapse. If you look at Russia now (cappy now) you will see it is worse off then when it was the USSR.
RioGeenes 2 years ago
good video. youd make a good austrian
Jordan22473 2 years ago
WOOT COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!
chocolatepain357 2 years ago
I agree but all forms of government have some form of altruism.
NationalSocialistUF 2 years ago
We will all have to be Buddhist Monks for Communism to work. It doesn't work because of people like Stalin, Mao,etc.
It is a childish dream that will never work with the human nature.
Robertamissoniluv 2 years ago
The problem with the critique that the theory is bad because it fails in practice as applied here is that Marxism (which I assume is the particular brand of Communism you're discussing) has never been applied in any form close to what it looks like in theory. Simply put, Marx predicts that after capitalism undermines the traditional values of a culture and reduces human relations to those of mere economic exchange, the proletariat will become fed up and take over the means of production. ...
BombdePlume 2 years ago
But in the 20th century (particularly within the Soviet Union and China) Communism was parroted as salvation for the peasants (farmers, villagers, typically religious, traditional people). Russia wasn't industrialized in 1917 when the Bolsheviks took over. There was no capitalist infrastructure to appropriate. Similar situation in China. We really haven't seen Marxism. Strangely, we're seeing a much slower liberalization of the capitalist system. Marx saw Communism as a historical inevitability.
BombdePlume 2 years ago
"Communism is good in theory, but..." I HATE HEARING THIS SHIT IT SUCKS IN THEORY AND PRACTICE
theocean1973 2 years ago
Second of all, you expose your ideeas on very little information that you have about communism. You don't know anything about it, if would have known you would have understood that it is a lot easier in communism, after a bit of sacrifice, than in captalism, where the rich dance over the poor. When a child is born, does he have any ideea about how to get himself richer or anything like that ? No, people are like that because someone was like that once, and forced everyone that way.
mrana121 2 years ago
I watched your vid, and got more and more surprised at how dumb you are...
First of all
Communism doesn't take away happiness. You just say that, but think like this. If everyone would, for a bit of time, forget about themselves and think about the others, we would all live happily after that. It takes JUST A BIT of sacrifice, not a constant life in a terribile distopia.
mrana121 2 years ago
sorry to burst your bubble, but communism does suck, thats why it has failed numerous times ... to be forced to pay for someone else, no matter how hard working or lazy they are, and to get paid the same, is bullshit ... fuck communism, i walk alone
andretheking86 2 years ago
people think Communism is nothing than some evil dictator that kill hole punch of people like Stalin...Blame to Stalin!!!Lenin and Marx where great people that where the perfect leaders to lead russia to happyness...But now,Russia is suffering by the crisis!!There would be no suffering in Russia if Communism was back...And democratie is nothing than simple lie.If u vote on someone he always do things nobody cares,or build nukes like in Iran...And 75% of all voting are fake...
iownage4youi 2 years ago
I do not know about other forms of communism, but Marxism aims at the liberation of the individual, to restore him to his full-self and end his subjugation to forces which are beyond his control. This,of course, does not validate the methods that Marxism advocates, but I thought it was worth noting.
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
I believe in a capitalist system with socialist checks and balances.
It seems to me from all historical examples when you go too far one way or the other human greed usually takes over.
But no matter what system you live under, somebody's always trying to upset the table and be the one holding all of the power.
SeekerLancer 2 years ago
Thank you my thoughts exactly. Social Stratification of some form exists in every societal system.
henrylicious 2 years ago
I've seen the title of video and closed it,no,communism is not wonderful system,its a good theory with many flaws.Democracy is also good theory with even more flaws.
Many people think socialism is not different but is,just look at Ex Yugoslavia. Socialism FTW!
Classless society is enough for me.
heheIvan 2 years ago
Ever heard about the iterated prisoner dilemma, even a rational person would be nice to others. A goal is not itself a rational thing. And most humans are somewhat altruistic, think about it if not then why would people help their friends and other people without an imidiat reward of some kind.
anders3130 2 years ago
I think you're conflating philosophical altruism with benevolence.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
they man not be instant reward but optimally there is always a reward.
iceefreet 2 years ago
ur 1 ugly mofo
falcon5956 2 years ago
Communism sucks.
tubub 2 years ago
Why would Christianity not thrive in a Communist state? Christianity has been the greatest popularizer of altruism in history.
KajiCarson 2 years ago 2
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falcon5956
The truth is the bible is false; all regions that rely on the bible are false. Reject the god of Abraham that Jews, Christians and Muslims worship. To Him be an anti-theist and blasphemer. If God does not like it let him do something. God will do nothing, not even complain.
Churches quote the bible, which is a compilation of second hand false stories and ancient mythologies. They frighten you and take your money. Keep your money and resist their foolishness.
imaginethereisnogod 2 years ago
Long live anarchy.
Nederlandac 2 years ago
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fleskebille 2 years ago
If we get a stateless society, you and your comrades can play communism all you want.
fleskebille 2 years ago
GOOD GOING SIR! HUZZAH!
you are absolutely right, Communism doesnt exist really and to achieve it you steal which is not moraly correct
Oneandoneself 2 years ago
As i see it Communism turns our society in to a large colony of ants. The government decides the peoples fate which is to work communism kills its self dead.
xXforestoXx 2 years ago
I think people would be much more altruistic if people weren't pitted against one another in an unnatural struggle for survival, which is the situation they are placed in by a capitalism. More people would willingly help others if they weren't so afraid of being one paycheck away from homelessness themselves.
badmuffy 2 years ago
badmuffy, the struggle for survival is natural. Every living thing on this planet in nature struggles for it's own survival and competes with other living things. You are only seeing the competition of capitalism. You are failing to see the cooperation in capitalism. You're missing the other side of the coin. No product or technology can be developed by one person. It takes thousands of people working together in their own self interest to produce a product that improves the lives of consumers
truthadvocate 2 years ago
why is it that when another person has an opposing opinion such as yours, do you need to call them names, make fun of them, communism can only be explained logically using concepts of alienation and such philosophized by hegel and darwinism, which ultimately gives us this quintessential human nature you speak so fondly of omniverse.
olsome2 2 years ago
i am a communist and in evolutionary theory or darwinism, a species, in order to survive and reproduce, must be altruistic. Must be willing to give some of what they have to those people who are not so fortunate. You are an anarchist, are you an individualist anarchist like thoreau or a collectivist? Anarcho-communist is, specifically, what i am and i think in a society where we all help each other out in such a manner that some might conceive as communalism is overall, a better society.
olsome2 2 years ago
Where i think you are wrong though is where you say selfishness is the quintessential human nature. In darwinism, however, a species, individual and collective, would need to be both selfish (to provide for their well-being) and altruistic (to contribute to the species so that it may prolong it's existence.) It is wrong to say we are all fully selfish, because, if we were selfish, the species would deconstruct and be taken off of the evolutionary tree of life
olsome2 2 years ago
rbianco95: "Spam don't u see? You've been brainwashed by the government to think that communism is bad!! "
Don't you see, you're brainwashed by your Commy / Anarchist affiliates into thinking we're being brainwashed. It may not be true but get off your high horse and think about it for a minute.
Slipknotareaces 2 years ago
Hmm, I wonder why all objectivists are scrawny first-world geeks?
Communism is future of humanity, whether you like it or not. Douchebags like you who fight to keep the working class enslaved deserve to be shot.
misterelsh 3 years ago 2
Well said
RedTideOfWolves 2 years ago 2
True dat.
cajunprankster 2 years ago
Communism takes and takes from the earths natural recourses and its own in-till it has nothing left it is very inefficient and is defiantly not the future of humanity its an outdated form of government.
xXforestoXx 2 years ago
all the attepts to create communism (thus far) have been based on leninism and I agree, leninist theory is a failure and that's why the USSR, the PRC, and all the others have sucked. HOWEVER! This does not immediately discredit marxism or marxist theory. Marx himself was against cults of personality, state terror, or the leninist idea of centralism. It is lenin's "democratic" centralism that is the key failure in leninist theory.
Please read more about the distinction between marx and lenin.
communismisfreedom 3 years ago
1- einsteins theory couldnt be tested by the time is was created, but that doesnt mean it was wrong
2- communism never really existed, it only was "called" commumism.
3- your video should be called capitalism is bad in theory, in practice in every way you see it.
please forgive my mistakes if a made any and post an answer
antianormales 3 years ago
don't u see? You've been brainwashed by the government to think that communism is bad!!
rbianco95 3 years ago
That explains why I am an anarchist. Actually, wait, that's the exact opposite viewpoint of someone who was brainwashed by the government :P
XOmniverse 3 years ago
@XOmniverse exactly. This guy is suggesting that the government brainwashed you into thinking that more power for itself (communism) is bad. That would be like Eminem brainwashing you into thinking that rap music is bad.
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
if somebody thinks communism is bad it doesn't mean he/she is brainwashed
12elza12 3 years ago 2
Thats true, even though you look like a foresttroll lol
Communists are lazy retards who are too lazy to work.
Taruball 3 years ago
actually, communists would like to work for themselves than another person. Communists are not lazy, we believe everyone deserves an equal share, hence, communism is a stateless and classless society where the means of production, produced by the proletariat workers, and distribution are controlled communally, within a communal society, sort of like communalism, though not as primitive.
olsome2 2 years ago 2
Hey look another socially inept libertarian with greasy hair a neckbeard!
Clearly all he says must be gold, and taken as truth!
demonedge666 3 years ago
It's amazing how insults and sarcasm aren't an argument.
XOmniverse 3 years ago
Great video by the way
MindlessGlitch 3 years ago
It's so deluded to think you achieve some measure of happiness without the altruism of the majority.
IrminC 3 years ago
Nobody, except for miserable people, lives to appease everyone they talk to. Having close relationships may be important, but not the "altruism of the majority". If a person doesn't even know the majority of people, why would it matter if they liked him or her? Especially if that person has a lot of close friends and a happy family at home.
MindlessGlitch 3 years ago
It's not one extreme or the other.
All these "individualists" just excuse the basic, fundamental altruism of society are deluded and seek credit for their ego where credit is not due. It's just warped logic used to excuse their selfishness.
What is "altruism of the majority"? And why should anti-social people be a part of society? They do not have to be, it's just a pattern of exploitation.
It isnt about social acceptance or appreciate it's the realization youre dependent on others.
IrminC 3 years ago
"What is "altruism of the majority"?"
You used the term first, why don't you tell me?
"It isnt about social acceptance or appreciate it's the realization youre dependent on others."
Of course I'm dependent on others. But as long as I pay them for services, I owe them nothing. All "dependency" is through exchange between individuals. "Society" itself is made up of individuals pursuing their own self interest, and by doing so they benefit society as a whole.
MindlessGlitch 3 years ago
The majority of people being alruistic. Meaning they find personal fulfillment in contributing and care for the whole of society.
You want to extend the social contract to purely personal interest which is counter productive and regressive. By definition your social contract is eternally conflicted as you want to pay them the least amount possible and they want to make the most amount possible. Like a dog chasing its tail.
Self interest should be a biological imperative, not a social.
IrminC 3 years ago