MIT Plasmatron - Principles of the Pantone GEET Device

[trangenusa]

she said available in Spring of 2004, so this is OLD, and this video is posted 2007, which means, TPTB, The Powers That Be, already snuffed this technology just like the GEET, and others, like Stanley Meyers HHO

[MightyZarkon]

Build your own cars fuck em!

[MightyZarkon]

Plasma spark plugs are already out but auto stores refuse to carry them but now that MIT is copying other inventors hard work I guess auto stores will start carrying it now? What a bunch of shit...so much for getting anywhere if you invent something. Corporate whorebags!

[potpie921]

thank you for sharing this video!

[superdiza]

so. a few hundred dollars at 2004 should have gotten my mileage per galon up 50%.

Now it's 2011.

what happened?

[8thsinner]

@superdiza Exactly what was predicted. Big companies bought it up decided they would lose too much money in the short and long term, and buried it...

[superdiza]

@8thsinner Are you stating facts or conspiracy intuition?

Why would they lose money?

why can't i just buy it for 300$ today?

[trangenusa]

@8thsinner Go rent and watch Gashole, they had cars getting 150 MPG in 1950's and 1960's, and they killed Tom Ogel who in 1977 had Ford Galaxy that got 100 MPG, Shell killed him, and they tested this technology and got AN AMAZING 1000 MPG, yes, 1000 mpg, UNBELIEVABLE, One of these guyss had water directly injected into his carburetor, and the other one had a industrial humidifier to make air more dense to get this mileage.

[Kanoee64]

Always some excuse. If the fuckin thing works let me give a couple of hundred dollars a you can bolt it to the hood of my truck. I'll just look around it! FUCK!

[einsteindrieu]

To put it nicely they will fuck you in the ass if you try to put it on the market !--O it work's yes but forget it Human Race of Slaves !!!---Wait,wait you can have Agenda 21-ha ha--it's the twilight zone !

[xrayrep]

The Plasmatron is physically small, but what the video doesn't tell you is that it requires a power supply the size of a horse trailer to power it. Sure, hydrogen and plasma can assist in gasoline combustion, but it's not practical, and it's not cheap. If it were, then people would be using it by now. This video was produced about 8 years ago! Where are all the Plasmatrons????

[jeepers2655]

anything that makes more gas mileage is killed off!......they push for electric cars that cost more and have EXPENSIVE batteries,and a gas engine too!.....hybrids!....Tesla is OK and fast but the battery pack and Car are EXPENSIVE!

[Whitebear329]

Ok, it is now MArch 2011, where is the plasmatron now?  If it has been developed it should be released to the individual person not the Mega Corporations. Whats the latest on this?

[TK42138]

I'm fascinated by this GEET stuff and open minded.

Two concerns though; Is this yet another 'water for fuel' scam that seems to raise it's head every time price of oil goes up? or have real people seen real results?

Is there an increase in oxides of nitrogen due to having engines run at higher CR or higher temperatures?

Since our atmosphere is 78 percent nitrogen does the GEET system counteract this? or will we still rely on catalytic converters to clean up any Nox?

[reeferman69]

@TK42138 @TK42138 ""water for fuel" scam".. there was no scam. watch?v=Ir5XgMiXlzM

[TK42138]

@reeferman69

Seeing that MIT have got onboard I'm guessing there's something viable in the plasmatron. This would be even more efficient when oil-less and coolant free ceramic engines become widely used. Nissan were working on a 1600cc ceramic unit that had 257bhp no lubricating or cooling systems!

[Mannycom420]

it will burn any water if its made right. no hydrocarbon is necessary. water is hydrogen. this is a tease.

[ms5athome1]

Big oil companies will try to bury this, or they will buy every drop of water in the world. Be sure about it...

[tasilbhurn]

hmm, isnt geet about using high powered magnets to align the molecules in the fuel to aid combustion, and this is tythe use of plasma to axcit ethe particles to release H2, so .. this isnt geet.

[henrykay01]

I invented a breakthrough source of energy which violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. Making a 6 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production, value of energy produced yearly $5400.

I am looking for $300 000 for a prototype and $3M for patents.

H. Tomasz Grzybowski

tel. +48-512-933-540

[tyob1]

2004? 

[vjt9]

there are SO many inventors that have successfully made this happen in the last 20 years ..all of them have either sold out (in which case it was never developed by the buying company) ..or they went to jail ..like nathan lee ...some went to the mental asylum ..like paul pantone ..and guess what happened to all the rest ..They're Dead !

............please dont take my word for it ..do your own research!

[Furthen]

Poor video, says nothing substantial =(

Are there any scientific papers on the GEET engine?

[vjt9]

@Furthen : nothing more substantial than the working GEET reactors that i've seen ..look around dude ....and dont rely on something like fox news for all your scientific facts of life!

[madbillt66]

As early as 2004!!!! ha ha ha buried ,along with all of this tech. It' up to us in our sheds and garages to do it for ourselves...

[ecopracy]

@madbillt66

come buy the micro version for diesel at ecopracyprus com

[bundy241241]

this tech will be brought out into the world the big company's will buy it and burry it like the steam and electric car

[sirHOAX]

Our cars will be running on this technology before you know it, free from corporate gains, and government vested interests.

The day is coming where no profit from energy will exist for the common good of man. You can not stop the inevitable. Technology will take us there, or the collective of our species will.

[ecopracy]

@bundy241241

NO . it's a open source product for personla consumption and I am actualy selling a commercial version endorsed by Pantone called the ecopra kit . check it out and "buy" it if you want .... cause it can't be stopped anymore and thats the difference to previous "identical" inventions . ecopracyprus com is a site you get info

[kinneyman4]

.....tesla roadster???

[OverUnityNow1]

To put it very simply, a plasma is an ionized gas,a gas into which sufficient energy is provided to free electrons from atoms or molecules and to allow both species, ions and electrons, to coexist. The funny thing about that is, that as far as we know, plasmas are the most common state of matter in the universe.

[narivasant]

See the plasma through a sight glass in a GEET reactor at 8 minutes into this video:

youtube. com/watch?v=RTmN5EEcJ5Y

[narivasant]

It was bought out and shut down in order to maintain control of oil prices in the world commodities market.

MIT had teamed with the auto supplier Arvin Meritor to get fuel reformers to production vehicles. Then an equity investment company, One Equity Partners, bought out the division of Arvin Meritor that did the final development. They created a new company of that division called EMCON Technologies. That company terminated the fuel reformer program before deployment in production vehicles.

[narivasant]

flickr. com/photos/37257699@N03/

[Dags44890]

on another note on the video... a high compression plus a lean burn is NEVER a good thing to do. more air and less gas is horrible on a cars internals. sure, itll work and show it works, but in the long run, the wear and tear will be more costly than buying gas.

[narivasant]

MIT knows what they are talking about. Even before using fuel reformers for hydrogen enhanced combustion there have been "lean burn" cars sold decades ago, some are still on the road. Just a few SAE reports pertaining to lean burn engines at SAE. org : 2005-01-0251 810348 830897 960603 2002-01-2196 2004-01-1270 2005-01-0253 2000-01-2206 2003-01-0630 MIT did years of in car & in bus studies proving how well it works

[Hoodmonsa]

Isnt there another video about "Plasmatron inventor suddenly dies"? Not to sound like a crackpot conspiracy person but this seems to be the trend more and more with ground breaking inventions. Also they were careful not to say anything about hydrogen gens but rather "you gasoline engine can run it to produce it". Just a thought.

[zerobubbel]

Did you know about the statisticly impossible rate of deaths among micro-biologists? That is something weird too.

[Hoodmonsa]

Actually no i didnt. Thanks for pointing that out. Something new to research!

[ICgraFX]

never thought i'd say that, but shame on mit too...

this is f***** up version of paul pantones device.

shame on all these hypocrites stealing our childrens future. i hope they all rot. utah seems a naturally good place for this ...

[OverUnityNow1]

Plasma, what are you smoking?

[narivasant]

Paul Pantone's GEET plasma fuel reformer is better because it uses no external power supply. It uses electrostatic build up to generate the plasma. Paul is going to start teaching people how to make their own again. see the site geet. nl without the space

[OverUnityNow1]

Wake up, geets a scam...No plasma...

[bundy241241]

your a fool

[afdhalatifftan92]

Dude!!

Just because you can't replicate it, it doesn't meant it's a scam!!

We are together to make our earth greener...

Not fighting who is right and who is wrong!!

[OverUnityNow1]

I offer anyone to PROVE IT!

I'm not a DUDE, stop hiding and prove me wrong.

[afdhalatifftan92]

That's is what I'm working on...

I'm waiting my newly bought genset to arrive...

Maybe in a week or so...

Trust me, I will prove you're wrong...

[OverUnityNow1]

Your wrong when you cant prove it!

Stop the BS, just prove me wrong...

Plasma needs electricity, where this energy comming from?

Plasma will also cause any fuel to explode!

Study the Plasma ball. Its low level plasma, but it need high voltage to make plasma...

[JohnsEngine]

Plasma refers to a fully ionised gas with ionised atoms and free electrons. The free electrons allow the plasma to easily conduct current.

There are many different ionisation levels of gas. The air around us for instance is ionised but very weakly. Ionisation can be achieved by electricity or by heat or by both of them. Anyway you need energy to ionise gas.

Where could the energy come from in the geet reactor? One the one hand you have energy in form of heat and on the other hand ...

[ecopracy]

@JohnsEngine

i answer this above though it may be contested the holy truth is that Tesla has described this energy in detail . Also you can "and i advise everyone who REALY wants to understand Free Energy" download a documentary called "energy from the vacuum" and watch the documentaries and judge for yourself . The GEET also harnesses this energy from the vacuum in the reactor which as you correctly say makes a atom plasma vs a hydrogen mix ..Hydrogen in a plasma is broken down into the atom

[JohnsEngine]

... electricity can be created by friction. It's called triboelectricity or static electricity. Steam and air travel through the geet reactor with high speed due to the small gap size and the gas rubs against the metal surface of the pipe and the rod. That friction causes electricity. Google for "steam electricity" and google for "electronegativity" or "electon affinity".

So there is heat and electricity in the reactor which both could ionise the gas inside the geet reactor.

[OverUnityNow1]

Prove the geet system, you talk to much.

Enter the Geet challenge!

You know the rules by now, stop talking trash,PROVE IT!

ANYONE, PROVE THE GEET SYSTEM!

[sirHOAX]

If that is the case then the rod is actually acting like a carbon cracker. Or electrolysis cell of some sort. Knew the steam played a roll in this. Thanks for the info.

Super heated steam does things regular steam can not (ie: higher state of matter). What is so hard to understand about this?

Anyone know if this can be built on a DIESEL platform?

[ecopracy]

@sirHOAX

ecopracyprus com .... we sell a commercial version endorsed by Mr. Pantone for diesel at the moment . In regards to the GEET engine itself it uses "radiant" energy as per Tesla or some people say Kinetik energy ... this principle is tesla's technology if you will and thats why no other hydrogen generator can be as efficient .... casue the GEET or Ecopra uses free energy and free energy is called radiant energy . Anyone doupt this better read "radiant energy tesla" .He invented it all!

[ecopracy]

@OverUnityNow1

it's been prooved 1000's of times .... best test was with french TV and their own scientists ... check out ecopracyprus com for some information and also check jlnlabs he tested hundreds of devices . Man if you name yourself overunitynow ... i just say .... Bedini wheel , GEET (ecopra kit small commercial version ) .These 2 devices make anyone half as independant and when done properly you basicaly reduce your dependancy by 80% in regards to electricity and petrol consumption

[ecopracy]

@OverUnityNow1

ecopracyprus com , and check this site out for allllllll the other overunity devices that exists .... just cause you don't know doesn't mean you should shout BS too much ...they all prooved it .. french TV prooved it with a MOT test and the results of exhaust tests . and this existed in the US 30 years ago in a different version and was bought by big oil and supressed . not new you see it was all discovered and described by Tesla who calls it aether and radiant energy

[JohnsEngine]

"Overunitynow" Would you be so kind and explain to us in detail why you think it is a scam?

And please tell us what you know about plasma!

Thank you in advance.

[OverUnityNow1]

The basics of plasma technology are straightforward. A high-voltage current is passed between two electrodes to create a high-intensity arc, which in turn rips electrons from the air and converts the gas into plasma or a field of intense and radiant energy.

Where is the electricity? Plasma fourth state of matter....

[onthecuttingedge2005]

they ripped off the technology from the GEET inventor.

[Khal337]

Was planned for 2004? Boy this is old stuff. I wonder how many cars utilize these now..

[slonopochron3000]

2:16 paaaahticles

haha i know this guy he gave a demo for my class once, pretty funny

[afdhalatifftan92]

LOL!!

[nasa0sucks]

I've been looking around and reading stuff, watching vids, etc for a couple of days. I have yet to see a concise explanation of how these/this works. As in a thermodynamic equation, a physics diagram, and that sort of thing.

All I have seen is a bunch of wrench monkeys turning an engine on and talking about some 'vortex'.

Additionally, I have heard a couple of times that elements are transmuted,e.g. adding or subtracting protons. Hello? Where is the proof of this?

[bottleslingguy]

This shouldn't be confused with GEET technology invented by Paul Pantone. YT or Google search his name and you'll start to find some info that might clear it up for you. Something about thermal inertia, vacuum, plasma, stripping electrons, and stuff with the GEET. And it doesn't violate any precious "laws of thermodynamics" either.

[quantumOflux]

I had a plasmatron as a kid. It was fun to put metal objects on it and then light paper things on fire.

[talos1964]

How is it being suppressed if its on youtube? the technology has been public for years. is there a single person that can show documentaion of anyone stopping them from developing it?

[narivasant]

Pantone's unit is a fuel reformer.

Do a google search of:

fuel reformer

and

steam reforming.

It makes lighter gases that have absorbed heat from the exhaust in the endothermic chemical steam reforming reaction.

This is not a con job for fools. It really works great.

Steam reforming is the primary method used in the petroleum industry to produce hydrogen. It works with many different kinds of hydrocarbon although methane is usually used in the petroleum industry.

[zvorenergy]

Yeah Paul Pantone is another pseudo-scam artist like Dennis Lee. It's a rip off all right like all the other free-energy something-for-nothing freaks.

[akotlia]

Great BOMB !! congratulations !! see if we can have less dangerous streets. I give u some help (MAGNETS)

[Yggdrasill4]

2004 wut

[servall1]

How can you find it hard to believe. The government and ooil companieshave been surpressing this and other technologies for years. People need to wake up. Its all about control. Their lame excuse is that it will ruin the economy. When infact the truth is GREED. If you study GEET you understand that this is fuel reforming using basic magnetizum. not electrilysis.

[alexjonesretard]

your stupid i make real cars . real cars that run on water. 2 words fuel cell . you suck my dogs dick your so stupid.

[lokuputha]

can the plasmatron break the hydrogen from water? :)

[narivasant]

Yes, any fuel reformer of either the plasma or catalytic type will crack the hydrogen from water at the same time it cracks the hydrocarbon.

The process is called steam reforming. Auto makers already own many patents for systems designed for cars but they won't sell a car with them.

Now they issue new news releases about fuel reformers designed to be used with fuel cells but for decades they already had them developed for hydrogen enhanced combusion in an engine but they refuse to use them.

[narivasant]

no electrolyzing, no electrolysis.

yes, it cracks the hydrogen from the gasoline but the process is not electrolysis.

take some time to study fuel reformers.

google search

plasma fuel reformer

and

steam reforming

Auto makers and big oil already own many patents for systems for on board a vehicle even before MIT tried to force it to the market but auto makers won't sell them.

One Equity Partners bought out and shut down this particular design.

[newagemotor]

No it's not. This thing electrlyzes the hydrogen from the gasoline. I wouldn't want to be around for a flash-back from that ! But it seems that it does it in small amounts at a time, like after it gets atomized first.

[TimFix]

OBAMA must be informed about this and use his powers to force this to market. Big oil has used black mail ,strong arming these inventors which is illegal. Besides they are way too rich now with what has happened and have no reason to be this greedy. HOW DO WE INFORM OBAMA ABOUT THIS?????<------

(and free Paul Pantone who was set up)

[thenexus07]

If it's so great, where is it? shouldn't it be in every car that's made now?

[narivasant]

the question is asked and answered many times.

read all the comments to see the answer

[thenexus07]

OK. you are saying the oil companies hold the patent and won't use it. Other company simply can't use it without being sued. I find this a little hard to believe. Shouldn't the government be involved and investigate the oil companies for antitrust or something. For a device that improve efficiency by 30% or more, shouldn't the car markers be fighting tooth and nail to get it out?

[akaalgorithm]

2004 LOL

right!

[ZEROPOINT132]

I'm gonna get them big oil companies, anybody got a box of matches, well burn them out.

[h2opower]

2004! Where the hell is it? But the best I have seen on this type of work is the firestorm spark plugs that no company seems willing to make for the inventor.

[narivasant]

Arvin Meritor was working with MIT and making the production version for installation in USA vehicles.

Then big oil, through "One Equity Partners", bought out the division of Arvin Meritor making this fuel reformer for 310 Million US dollars and they killed its production. They formed a new company called Emcon Technologies that only sells other things like exhaust catalytic systems, etc. But the fuel reformer for use on intake gases was killed. Many MIT studies proved it worked well.

[narivasant]

Arvin Meritor was working with MIT and making the production version for installation in USA vehicles.

Then big oil, through "One Equity Partners", bought out the division making this fuel reformer and they killed its production. They formed a new company called Emcon Technologies that only sells other things like exhaust catalytic systems, etc. But the fuel reformer for use on intake gases was killed.

[prototype9000]

it was meant for the person who was talking about carrying hydrogen around in tanks hydrogen on demand is the way to go

[jakayboy]

haha they said this would be in cars in 2004

[youarelackluster]

maybe thats the most optimistic estimate they can make if people were to finance this with vehemence..

[narivasant]

Actually it is a very conservative estimate. Fuel reformers that perform steam reforming using both water and a hydrocarbon can provide even more efficiency in making hydrogen for hydrogen enhanced combustion. Also, fuel reformers that use otherwise wasted exhaust heat to help power the reforming are even more efficient.

[kenpoka65]

this is hydrogen on demand. which alleviates the concern about hydrogen storage.

[sceptic33]

and i can't see how this is a direct ripoff of the geet device. although Pantone talks about some kind of plasma reaction in his machine, I doubt that an engines exhaust is hot enough to actually turn petrol into plasma. and where are the magnetic rods aligned with the north pole in the MIT device? the machines might share a common purpose, but they use completely different methods.

[narivasant]

Plamsa in the exhaust is heat generated as there is still enough heat to cause ionization in the exhaust even after no visible flame can be seen (flame is plasma).

In the Pantone reformer, plamsa in the intake gases is more from electrostatic generated ionization.

Google: non-thermal plasma reformer

[sceptic33]

carbon fibre tanks are stronger than the vehicles in which they are fitted. They can easily handle the pressure of the hydrogen, and are tough enough to handle impact and heat without damage. any hydrogen that might leak disperses into the atmosphere very quickly, meaning that a hydrogen leak is less dangerous than a petrol leak(which pools around the vehicle presenting a far greater fire risk)

[sceptic33]

the video states "hydrogen is difficult to carry around"... ???

NO. you put it in a tank. how difficult is that?

[narivasant]

keeping it in the tank under pressure can be a problem. Putting out a fire at a leak site is a problem.

[sceptic33]

carbon fibre tanks are stronger than the vehicles in which they are fitted. They can easily handle the pressure of the hydrogen, and are tough enough to handle impact and heat without damage. any hydrogen that might leak disperses into the atmosphere very quickly, meaning that a hydrogen leak is less dangerous than a petrol leak(which pools around the vehicle presenting a far greater fire risk)

[narivasant]

Professor Grant Wood, automotive technology professor and researcher for more than 25 years said something like driving a car carrying hydrogen is like driving a bomb. I agree it is safe as long is everything is working ok.

[prototype9000]

carrying hydrogen around is dangerous it has to be compressed one little spark or accident or leakage it would be a driving h -bomb

[narivasant]

This video is not about carrying around hydrogen so what is your point?

[1337cookie]

lol you're silly

[Syizik]

lol an H-Bomb isnt ignighted Hydrogen. its an atom of hydrogen, split.

[csjavik]

My gosh, that is an ignorant statement. . . Next time think before you type.

[prototype9000]

the original conversation idiot was about  carrying around compressed hydrogen in a tank not hydrogenon demand read the whole fucking story before you comment loser

[muckahucka]

Talk about going about things the hard way. I'm sure the plasmatron has its place and its technology will be useful in certain applications. However, if the objective is to simply add hydrogen into the cylinder to assist in the properties of combustion and compression then this has already been accomplished with a far simpler device. Check out the On-Demand Hydrogen Fuel Cell. Same results. Increase in MPG by an average of 30% and it can be created with parts from your local hardware store.

[VashDragonTube]

I hate news clips. They never do a good job explaining it. The question is, how much more electricity do these plasmatrons use as compared to the energy in the cars battery and the energy produced by the generator connected to the engine. I highly doubt that the benefit of the extra hydrogen burned will outweigh the cost of energy drained from the generator and battery. Whether you like it or not, any method used to extract hydrogen uses energy. Instead of gas being the fuel its your battery.

[narivasant]

The benefits greatly out weight the energy cost of powering the plasma reactor. MIT got power consumption down to 60 watts with 20-30% increase in fuel savings.

[quasarhi]

Interesting Video...a the geet rip off it may be...but looking at the video the device is so small...

Could it be that the MIT Inventors had the idea of fitting one of these devices to each cylinder ?? With a plasma/spark incorporated..

Comments please

[davinpilling]

were do i get one for my saturn

[lewy0701]

2004? GUESS IT DIN WORK ...HUH

[narivasant]

It worked and still works but we are not allowed to use it. MIT did long term in bus and in car proof of concept projects. Jet Propulsion Lab engineers did the same thing in the 1970s and their long term in vehicle proof went well also but , same thing again, auto makers refused to use it even though they own many patents for it and have done their own proof studies documented in their own patents' text.

[PhotonDrive]

Total lame propaganda! False promises! Antiquianted '60s thinking. Sucking up to Rocky for a small commission. ALL FUEL-BURNING VEHICLES are now so much USELESS JUNK! This news is spreading - among oriental people; not the US OIL-DICTATORSHIP OF FASCIST enslavement and human genocide!

[shakaama]

did she say 2004?

[ubuibiok]

This is a direct theft of the Paul Pantone Magnetic Plasma Fuel Reactor Engine-GEE

[ZionistWorldOrder]

i know... bromberg...

[narivasant]

I stated the company name wrong before. It was Arvin Meritor that teamed with MIT. Then their division that did all the fuel reformer final development was bought out by One Equity Partners ("OEP")for about 310 million US dollars. The newly created company, EMCON Technologies terminated the fuel reformer before deployment.

[ejbh3160]

So who marked that Narivasant comment as spam?! Grrr! Shills everywhere on YouTube these days!

It didn't spam anything and was a totally fair comment!

Once again a technology that could genuinely clean things up is being suppressed! So much for FREE markets! How can any market be FREE when Oil cartels & mega Corporations act in such an anti-trust way & keep new technologies from surplanting the old dirty ones!?

If you ever invent something... do it yourself! Don't sell out to Corporations!!

[rainpowers]

well said ejbh3160

[mwcdx]

MIT is an institution of suppression. Just look what this so called institution did to cold fusion.They fudged all the data on cold fusion to minimize its potential. They search the country and steal peoples inventions and rush to patient them . This is an institution of fraud. Parents Please don't send your kids to MIT. You are throwing your money away and when all the smoke clears up some day that Degree will be unless.Lets not let this generation of our children fall for this crap as we did

[imyourhustler]

brain exploding due to youtube overload

[Methadras]

spring of 2004. it's alreadyu spring 2008, where the fuck is this thing already?

[narivasant]

see comments below about EMCON Technologies

[ikekll]

It's all about hydrogen!

[Crusading4Truth]

Text below is quoted from Narivasant.Unfairly marked as spam

[Crusading4Truth]

"MIT spent years and millions perfecting and proving the technology.

They partnered with Arvin Mentor who worked out the last details of actually implementing in cars delivered by the automakers.

Then One Equity Partners ("OEP") bought out Arvin's fuel reformer division and created a new company called EMCON Technologies.

Then EMCON Technologies dropped the fuel reformer from their product line and only sell other stuff.

After all MIT did to prove its benefits.

Bottom line Big Oil wins again"

[narivasant]

It know appears that big oil will only let MIT's Plasmatron be used to clean up exhaust as in patent US2005274104, but they can no longer use as originally intended for engine intake gases to increase fuel economy.

[sn1pe352]

tesla had the same idea , some thing it has to do with his idea into tapping into the "wheelworks". on another note geet has been refined by many others trying to take credit for it.

[MentorOfMinos]

Nice english in the video description.

[therecommender]

I think its something like Geet ,

but it look like nothing happend till now ,

or is it in Production?

[stokes58]

2004!!? What happened to it then?

[narivasant]

big oil

[turboziptie]

dude ....where do you find this stuff, incredible! thanx

[highspeedlink]

MIT totally ripped Pantone

[sirHOAX]

Tesla originated a lot of these ideas. Have to give credit where credit is due. Even tho

Pantone deserves 100% of our honor and respect for giving us this device.

[GSpotter63]

Sounds like a modified GEET system to me. God! The industrial and scientific community here is getting so dam corrupt I sometimes feel ashamed to call myself American.

[narivasant]

I hate to say it but fuel reformers doing the same thing as Paul's have been around a long time. Since the 1970s Philips Petroleum has held a patent for an onboard fuel reformer for cars and many car makers have also but they won't use them.

Paul is an American hero for showing us all how we can easily make our own.

At the yahoo group VortexHeatExchanger look in Links then in Patents to see many similar.

[purplefetus3]

narivasant:

You've got some great posts! Please keep posting your insight! -TIA

[lostintimeBC]

in the 70's a 200 mile per gallon carberator was invebted the oilcompanies killed it and they will kill this devise also and all for money