Video the Count: What to do on Election Night

[nottinmatterz2day]

Hmm west coast states a lot of counties and is that, Nebraska? they don't use poll tapes

Is electronic voting banned in that state?

[BigDH28]

KEEP EM HONEST BEV! GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR WORK! (A NEW FAN) Alex Jones Sent me!

[fedtheend]

the bible instructs us not to vote. 

[fedtheend]

the bible says not to vote. voting gives them permission to screw you over, expecailly because the rothchilds have both sides covered. I don't authorize or defer to any politician.

[Crickettedog]

It is a fact that the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections were fraudulent. It was known that the Diebold machines deliberately malfunctioned. Why didn't Congress have the CEO of Diebold subpoenaed and have him testify under oath. Everyone that was closely associated with the CEO in the workplace could also have been subpoenaed to testify under oath. It is my understanding that each state has its own voting process. There is nothing standardized.

[seanseanseanseansean]

Bev, I watched the HBO documentary tonight. Now it's 2am and I am pissed that voter fraud is happening. Thanks for digging in and showing it on video. Bev you are my hero.

[mentalcripple]

Let see if I understand this process, the tape is placed into the tabluator, but before that the data cards are verified by the system lords....and then...ummmm, the scanners are recalibrated to adjust for absentee votes?....No wait...the scanner is linked...no wait...the ballots are read by the central vocalizer....no no, that's not right....damn...What the hell ever happened to frick'n paper ballots?

[GiovannaNYC]

These machines are not hacker proof. I saw a demonstration of one that was hacked into and the voter party changed. The government wnated to replace them but they already spent millions and could not replace them in time for election. Between ACORN and these machines I am really concerned.

[oncleJimi]

You don't need to worry about ACORN, bad registrations get caught before voting is allowed. YOu should worry about the machines--unless there is a verifiable paper trail.

[faired5467]

Bev, thank you. I will send this link to everyone I know. THANK YOU!!

[zappos49]

Thank you so much BlackBoxVoting. You are the kind of Americans that this country was founded for. Please do the next step and do research on THE NEW WORLD ORDER. This is way beyond Deomocrat or Republican.

[IYANDIY]

boone county IL results air on its website which is owned by 'FIDLAR' ELECTION SERVICES? thats just funny. fiddler election services..

[BlackBoxVoting]

Yep. And the corporate agent for Fidlar is a man named Ernie Riggen. A spokesman for Diebold is named Chris Riggall and a convicted embezzler who helped program some of the Diebold software is now living in Riggins, Idaho. You can't make this stuff up.

[ernestriggen]

That is funny -- especially since I am Ernest Riggen. I heard about these posts and had to read them for myself. VERY GOOD STUFF. And I need to share that this 'Riggen' is no longer in the election business. But I admire the wit. Enjoy!

[Sparkanoid1]

If I was an American citizen I would be all over the voting station like a rash.

[Sparkanoid1]

Republicans are cabable of anything.

[zyvek]

Great job Bev

[BlackBoxVoting]

I'd like to point out that the need for public oversight spans all of politics. Kathy Greenwell, shown at the end when she discovers the numbers don't add up, is a Republican in a Democrat-dominated area of Kentucky. Researchers in Pima County, Arizona are examining oddities in a central tabulator database that seem to defy any benign explanation -- and this is on a transit initiative ballot item. Watch the ballot initiatives, especially the gambling and land development ones.

[csbrudy]

Getting video cameras to polling places in time to record the tapes is the trick, and about as best as we can do. Good idea, Bev. I think the shenanigans will be done in the central tabulator. My fear is the the hack built in as firmware, & does nothing but assure 52% Rs in the top race on 11/04/08. Absentees are rigged the old fashion ways.

[BlackBoxVoting]

Note that the Volusia County poll tapes we found so many problems with in 2004 mostly sourced back to those that came from one particular drop-off point, the Daytona Speedway collection site. We visited poll workers and showed them our copies of the tape. Some of them insisted those were NOT the tapes they had posted. The tapes only remain posted for a few hours. After that, whatever you see has gone through a number of middlemen.

[jeanniedean]

GREAT MAPS! Excellent overview and how to, BBV! All I want for Christmas is videocameras everywhere this election day/night/ week/ month. I will circulate this to everyone I've ever brushed up against in an elevator.

Verifying results by precint is our best proactive solution to exposing all kinds of voting irregularites; our highest call to civic duty. So I'll be there with reams of extra videotape and my sac up. Try to stick around/ be the last one out--all the action happens at the end.

[BlackBoxVoting]

Woo-hoo! Jeannie! Now, where you are now, in California, many of the most populous areas have ditched the poll tapes. Los Angeles, San Diego, Riverside, Santa Clara, and many other California counties have gone to central count and absentee. In California, you'll find poll tapes in Orange County and many of the Bay area locations. I'll post video tips shortly for the central count and absentee variations on vote counting.

[TheGiantRobot]

I was thinking - if we gave each registered voter a tracking number and a password, we could post all votes online and the voters could verify them themselves. No one could falsify the counts and we could even vote online. Has anyone proposed this?

[BlackBoxVoting]

Yes. That would remove political privacy, unconstitutional in many states and rightly so. And, ultimately, being able to verify only your own vote is meaningless. The public must be able to verify the whole pool, not just one vote. Think of it like this: Suppose your bank says "trust me, the balance on your bank statement is correct. But you can only see one transaction, trust us on the rest." The real key is to stop counting votes in secret. Counting of ALL votes must be public.

[TheGiantRobot]

What I mean is that there would be an online record of all the votes that anyone could count, and you could find yours with your vote number next to it (to keep the vote anonymous). If it were wrong you'd have the password to prove it was your vote and file a dispute. If there were more than a few disputes then we'd know there was fraud.

[BlackBoxVoting]

You're on the right track, but still allowing for removal of political privacy. Humboldt County, California is already putting all the ballots online! But - no, there should be no record existing tying vote to voter. There are many discussions of the political privacy issue at Black Box Voting (org) -- Do Google the Transparency Project. Humboldt County is letting the public see every vote and is placing scans of all ballots online. Very cool. The political privacy issue is thornier.

[TheGiantRobot]

What I'm talking about is a password to the individual vote record, like a lottery number - no names. The only identity violation would be that in the case of an error report someone could look at your ballot and know that something on your ballot was wrong, but not what (because there are several votes per ballot). We could even let that voter vote again and blank out that old number (and he could report it to authorities if it still showed a vote).

I realized, though...

[TheGiantRobot]

...you're right - there is no way to vote anonymously online.

I'll look into the Transparency Project.

[jakluk4]

THANK YOU Bev Harris and crew!!!!!!!