Flying Tiger newsreels

[xbydmxxyd]

American Mates, traditionally, we were allies, but the bloody comunist party changed everything. We shall expect a democratic China together and therefore to reestablish our traditional friendship!!!

[kuinosenmonkey]

FDR plans sneak attack before Pearl Harbor (2nd Half)

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第二次上海事変における中国人による日本人捕虜の残虐処刑 (1996 CNN)

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Chiang Kai-shek Nationalist Party is nothing but cruel Chinese Nazis in German style military uniform. U.S.A. made them a cover and devised war against Japan.

[27mikemorrison]

Is it any wonder Japan bombed you back????

[killingamps]

Wow, B model P-40's--you hardly ever see them!

[yuzikatou]

The evidence of the Japan-U.S. war starting the war before the attack of the Pearl Harbor.!but Flying Tigers cannot win Zero Fighter This is a fact!

[Deltoid71]

@yuzikatou Maybe not in a dogfight, but using the tactics of the Flying Tigers, the records speak for themselves, time after time, the P-40s and AVG won.

[kuinosenmonkey]

Zeitgeist Movie : 2007 : 11/14 : War Games

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FDR plans sneak attack before Pearl Harbor

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America's Plan to Bomb Japan before Pearl Harbor

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[BlackhorseFulda]

The AVG is a very interesting study of history. People should stop using this video as an excuse to call other people names.

[xxxxwolf163]

Thank you USA for give us flying tigers and give little japanese nuclear bombs!

[mikeishida]

Listen up all of Japanese people. Remember Flying Tigers.

When they attacked Japanese air force, United States was a neutral nation. According to the international law, it was illegal that a neutral nation support one country fighting some other coutry.

Not only supporting Chinese nationalist party ,but United States also attacked Japanese air force.

Who was responsible for outbreaking of the "Great East Asian War"?(We call pacific war Great East Asian War.)

US was.

[Chinaforever777]

@mikeishida,

USA could help anyone they want.

Do you think USA would site around and watch you Jap pigs continue to massacres so many innocent Chinese ?!!

The only thing the USA ought to do was they should had dropped 200 atomic bombs on your filthy country, instead of only two bombs.

You Japs should all go to hell and burn !

[mikeishida]

Be against Japan forever. Don't stop it.

[mikeishida]

Keep yelling monkey.

[RSprtn117]

If you do your history you would know that the Fling Tigers were not absorbed by the USAAF until after war had been declared. They started out as a mercenary group founded by a railcar companty who accepted a contract from china to defend their terrirory from the japanese onslaught. And lets not forget the fact that the Japanese had been at work trying to conquer all of Asia for over a decade before the war even started!!! Greater East Asia Co-Prospierity Sphere ring a bell??

[Deltoid71]

@RSprtn117 Officially, the members of the AVG worked for CAMCO, an a/c building company. Chennault had been in China since 1937 and realized that with the inferior equipment and training that the Chinese Air Force had, they would never beat Japan. He knew that he needed American pilots and better equipment and with the help of Laughlin Currie, President Roosevelt and others, they finally scraped up enough equipment to do just that.

[pablogeebee1]

I heard the Japanese don''t teach their young what terrible things Japan did to the Chinese and most of Asia!!

The Japanese attacked U.S.A 1st. A very big and stupid mistake!!

The Japanese are only prosperous now thanks to U.S.A rebuiling Japan as a democracy!

Japanese were very cruel to everyone they encountered during WWII !!

They shoulda been forced to educate the young about these crimes! Germany did and they are a better folk for it!!

The 'Flying Tigers were brill'' heroes!!

[Chinaforever777]

Thank you USA, for helping China against the Japs.

[profriday]

Ya, USA and China were allies during WWII.

But, soon after WWII is over, USA and Japan have been allies since.

And, guess they are against what?

[OlderG0ds]

Thing is, USA doesn't share the same animosity towards Japan or China.

As an American, I like Japan today and Japanese people seem very kind to me. What is in the history is just that, but it shouldn't be forgotten. 70 years ago they were our enemies but today our good friends.

I know many Asian people still hate Japs but let's be honest it was practically a whole different country the Imperial Japan of WW2. Same with Germany, now we're all friends! But an apology from them would go a longway

[warhawk1234567890]

AVG claimed 43 Japanese aircraft destroyed on air combat during 14 and 15th February in 1942.

But only four Ki-27 and single ki-21 were confirmed by JAAF loss reports.

An AVG is a liar how!

[SleepingSun1985]

Yeah,we still cannot prove that US dropped any atomic bombs on japan in WW2.

[00bean00]

Why are you spamming this uncited claim of a single event on every related video you find?

[hnnjo5]

you can see the jap plains in this video--- they are the ones on fire

[BesshosenEnsenLife]

Newsfilms were always exaggerating.

And I can NOT find any Japanese planes in this film.

[fuhmeregan]

I think I'll go view Nagasaki and Hiroshima videos now! (ha ha hah ah aha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!

[fuhmeregan]

Apparently these American volunteers shot-down 20 Jap animals to 1 American human pilot! Shows how stupid Japs are.

[Vietcong01]

only thing this shows is how stupid you are retarted dipshit.

[Crimble67]

The Zero WAS a good fighter...until the Hellcat arrived on the scene. Then it was all over. The Grumman F6 Hellcat was responsible for shooting down 80% of all Japanese aircraft during WW II. Truly the unsung hero of the Pacific, just like the Hawker Hurricane during the Battle of Britain.

[marantf]

I personally prefer F4U.

[judgedredd123]

Pappy reminds me of the John Belushi character in the film 1941

[soulesslemming]

pappy boington was a flying tiger (Boingtons bastards a.k.a. black sheep squadron)

[shotgunslim]

i have a book about the history of the flying tigers...this book is published in 1942. hail to a.v.g.

[zlodiejus]

Weren't they a merc unit consisting mainly of people who abandoned their duties and went to fight for money? At least that's the impression I get from the historical footage on that unit. Correct me if I am mistaken.

[hkjazz1]

Before Pearl Harbour (1941), China sought help from USA. Roosvelt answered by sending pilots without breaking the non-combat relationship with Japan. China's pilots all perished after the war broke out in 1937. Flying Tiger pilots were USAF pilots who volunteered to fight in China. They had to quit from USAF before going to fly Chinese planes. China bought these P42 planes and paid these pilots for every Jap plane down. China and USA were allies until the former became a Communist country.

[marantf]

China and USA will be allies in the future again, after China achieves democracy.

[hkjazz1]

Anything would happen and I look forward to see that day. Mind you the brain wash is effective.

[marantf]

I think the brainwash of fomer USSR is much more serious than current red China. but they collapsed 18 years ago. China has already abandoned communist ideology and adopting capitalist market economy. so the convertion will not be long. by the way, I am from mainland China, but I can think independently.

[hkjazz1]

Hope you are right. Mind you they enjoy the corruption so much that I think it would take longer time.

[marantf]

it takes time, but it will eventually come. nothing can last forever, so as a Party.

[irish89055]

@zlodiejus they were all US military pilots.. but had to act like they were civilian as they prepared to fight, the us entered war Dec 41 before they were in effect flying for the gov't of China on a paid bounty for each plane shot down

[whizbang47]

Who are those guys at :50-53? What uniforms are those? There always seems to be more to learn about this great bunch.

[hkjazz1]

The Chinese words on the banner indicate that the first group were the Russian military representatives (:50-53). The second group (:54-55) were the Dutch forces. The Dutch forces were allies of the Chinese until the whole Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) fell to the Japanese.

[yliang1688]

Salutes!!!

The Flying Tigers led by General Claire L Chennault is the popular name of the 1st American Volunteer Group for the Chinese Air Force in fighting the Japs invision in the early 40s.

These well-trained and bravery aviators from US and China had successfully defeated the JAPS aggressors and led to its eventually unconditional surrender in 1945. The Flying Tigers then earned its world-wide recognition, achievements, and honors to be remembered forever since.

[QAnswer]

I'm from Taiwan, I was lucky to meet a real Flying Tiger Pilot in Aerospace Museum in DC. Salute and thank you guys!

[handkicker]

I bought a jacket of flying tiger

[wahaha1980]

you flying tiger guys will always be rememered by chinese!

[terryjohn]

wot a name wot guys, flying tigers

[johnhon37]

what is the original place you found these? those are great...

i'd like to use them as sources for a paper in school if you could tell me where you originally got them.

[Bomberguy]

Internet Archives. Do a search there to find aviation films

[siww26]

I am from Kunming, thanks, flying tigers!

[ChineseKungFu01]

I will never forget Flying Tiger

[hopedeliver]

In current japan,the neo-patriot japs youngs deny every japanese war crimes, should we teach them accurate history with nukebomb again ?

[SmiertSpionem]

Such great footage. Still I doubt the Tuskegee airmen got that privelage back then...

[KurtGnu]

The Tuskegee pilots didn't lose ONE SINGLE BOMBER that they protected.. They even got 1 ace, but he was never officially recognised, because of the colour of his skin.. sad, but true.. :( This was great footage of the Flying Tigers, though.. :)

[SmiertSpionem]

An impressive record for both squadrons. Both masters of the P-40!

[KurtGnu]

The last I know the Tuscegee flew the P51.. but then again I haven't studied the topic yoo closely.. I have however sen a GENUINE ex-Tuscegee Mustang at the Boxted Fly-In in 2004, albeit now flying in other colours.. :)

[SmiertSpionem]

Well thats always better than a random warbird painted-to-look-like a famous one!

Tuskegee's moved onto the p-51 after p-40s, I think. Like everyone else did I suppose.

[KurtGnu]

Yes, except a certain 56th Fighter Group of Boxted fame.. :D I may start the Academy P40 tonight, pending progress on the Humber Mk.II, and I also need to finish that other Russian P40-N I'm working on.. Then there'll definetely be a 'proper' response to your video!! :D

[SmiertSpionem]

Hehe, if you do more p-40's I will feel compelled to make that mustang and Yak-1b (I have no idea which will be complete first). Is the Humber a 'scout car'?

[KurtGnu]

Yep.. a 'scout' in your 'beloved' 1/76 scale!! :D Never started the P40, but maybe tonight.. I really need to finish a few more ongoing stuff though, before starting anything new!! The Humber is just a quick fix for something to bring to the Colchester club come Monday.. :D

[SmiertSpionem]

Don't feel you have to start more projects, I myself am just returning to the La-7 I started way back in February I think. I have all the basic painting done, all that is needed is undercarriage, decals and tricky 'metal rings' around engine. Hope to finish it tomorrow.

[KurtGnu]

Should be good.. You can buy decals to cover any metal rings around the engine.. My 1/48 I-16 came with decals supplied! :D

[SmiertSpionem]

Actually my kit might have some, but I'll have to check. Already splurged on one ring with steel paint :(

[KurtGnu]

Aow, splurging can be painful.. :)

[SmiertSpionem]

Undercarriage fitting on Eduards La-7 is infinitely more painful!

[KurtGnu]

Must check your channel, if I'm lucky the video is posted.. :)

[SmiertSpionem]

I'm doing photos quickly and adding before I go to work , should be up by 8:30 latest!

[KurtGnu]

The response to the letters on the image was not correct, please try again. I'll check it out later then.. or tomorrow.. :)

[wandawong]

18seki...Victors do write history, but one thing eventually gets into the books whomever the victor is... extreme and unnecessary brutality. The Romans were victors at Carthage and wrote the history, but their astonishing cruelty there is well known. Japan's WWII brutality is well researched. The lies and excuses of Japan's apologists only re-open the wounds.

[wandawong]

No 18seki, you've missed the point. The AVG was a volunteer *defensive* force. Would the AVG have reason to fire a single shot (or even exist) if Japan had ceased attacking China? War, and a declaration thereof, always implies a commitment to action beyond defense. And yes, Japan would have fared better by getting out of China with tail firmly between its legs.

[wandawong]

18seki.... The AVG were volunteers for China's military effort to deter Japanese agression in China. There was no declaration of war on Japan by America prior to Pearl Harbor. And, the only "myths" on the subject are found in modern Japanese school books.

[18seki]

Wandawong, you are proving my point which is that Americans did not declare war on Japan despite the fact that American pilots/planes were already fighting against Japan. So why does Japan have to declare war on the U.S. to send Japanese planes against American targets at Pearl Harbor? There appears to be a double-standards here which proves that victors write the history.

[Bomberguy]

Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor because of a few P-40s protecting China. Open your eyes and some history books. Don't skip the part about the rape of Nanking. Then you'll know why the Americans volunteered.

[18seki]

Bomberguy, the mere fact that the U.S. allied with the evil Soviets shows human rights was not at the forefront of American policy objectives. The news media was controlled by the U.S. Government to depict Japan as the bad guy and the Chinese as the victim. However the truth is that Americans and Europeans wanted to carve out China for themselves.

[Bomberguy]

A little oversimplification there Seki. It's true that Japan came late to the Imperialist party to carve out a bigger piece of the world for themselves. They were isolated too long. By the time Japan woke up it was too late. Still, if Japan had not been so brutal it might have been different. Attacking the US was a dumb move, they should have been satisified with China.

[18seki]

Bomberguy, you need to study history in more detail. U.S. and its allies had ceased selling oil to Japan. That left Japan with 2 options: i) to get out of China with tail between the legs; or ii) to take military actions to secure its own oil supply.

[Bomberguy]

I'll let you have the last word kid.

[10cct353CollinsSC]

@Bomberguy, that is what happened. The US narrative is that the Japanese started the war, but from the Japanese perspective the oil embargo was already an act of war.

I'm not saying it was right for the Japanese to invade China, but you're looking at history through a very filtered lens.

[CDSJAZZ]

To call them the "bad guys" is too soft.Murders, rapists and facists is more like it. They called themselves warriors but treated their prisoners as animals.

[18seki]

Gentlemen, Flying Tigers were Americans who were fighting well before the Pearl Harbor against the Japanese. This disproves the myth that the Pearl Harbor attack was an unprovoked attack. Americans, please open your eyes!

[CDSJAZZ]

Looks like they wanted to stop the monsters from the land of the rising sun !

[VersusARCH]

Actually, you are wrong they had their first combat AFTER the PH (though they were dispatched earlier). They also mostly fought over Burma and probably never encountered the Zero fighters.

[PTKilowatt]

Actually, they were in China before PH, and they did encounter Zeros, AAAnd they reported the existence of such aircraft back to the 'States.

And what did the generals do? They dismissed it as bunk, declaring that no such plane existed.

[LeeEBranch]

There were no 'Zeros' in China at the time the AVG was there~ The 'Type O" was a Navy plane abd the Navy didn't operate air units there in the summer of '42. It was the Japanese Armies 'Hamp' which resembled a 'O' that they sometimes encountered. Most fighter opposition to the P-40 there was the outclassed 'A5-M'

'Nate', a fixed gear, open cockpit ship comparable in vintage to our P-26.

[pandaman0529]

excellent footage

the world should know more of their greatness

[abrahamwu888]

The flying tiger kick Zero's ass.

[tynfq]

Well it was not as simple... I've heard that compared to Zero, P40 lost in maneuverability and ascend speed. Thus, e.g. their tactics against the bombers was as follows: climb as high as possible above the enemy formation, then dive, let off the burst and go back up over the enemy using the speed gained during the dive.

Although they did fight well, and I sometimes wish I were born 70 years before I actually was...

[tynfq]

Well it was not as simple... I've heard that compared to Zero, P40 lost in maneuverability and ascend speed. Thus, e.g. their tactics against the bombers was as follows: climb as high as possible above the enemy formation, then dive, let off the burst and go back up over the enemy using the speed gained during the dive.

Although they did fight well, and I sometimes wish I were born 70 years before I actually was...

[hoover1985]

although I am a Chinese myself, I would like to say, P40 can not beat Zero. Personally, I love P51D and F4U.

[kb8wfh]

Thanks for sharing this. Excellent footage. So little out there on the flying tigers in film and video.