ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe works don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NEW SPECIES: Although new species have come into existence, they don't carry any new genes. They've become new species only because they can't be crossed back with the original parent stock for various biological reasons. A biological "kind" allows for new species but not new genes. Nature has no ability to invent new genes for new traits. Only limited variations and adaptations are possible in nature, and all strictly within a biological "kind" (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.).
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
DISORDER IN THE UNIVERSE is no argument against God's existence. The disorder is because of chance and entropy, but the order can only be rationally explained due to design. If I discovered a broken watch on the ground, the disorder is no evidence that there wasn't a designer behind the watch. Please read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
BURDEN OF PROOF: Anyone who claims the level of complexity and order in life and the universe happened by chance has the burden of proof. Many atheists think they have no burden of proof because they’re not claiming the existence of something. That is not true. Atheists are claiming something. They are claiming that we are here by chance and atheists expect for everyone to accept that claim on faith because they certainly can’t prove it. Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
I'd rather listen to Vanilla Ice than this shit. If I believed that my existence was minuscule in regards to the universe my raison d'etre would not be bitching about religion.
@Opethvince I was not aware Vanilla Ice is a Christian. Personally I find any blunt in your face music dealing with religion or irreligion in this case to be awful. I never implied Vanilla Ice was "righteous." Furthermore telling someone to lay off the hate is a good idea. It's a shame most atheism activists can't express their opinion without being antagonistic. PS I'm not A Christian, don't presume that everyone who criticizes an atheists rhetoric is A Christian. Makes you look bad.
The black Carl Sagan? Please! Greydon is not a bad lyricist, but nobody's gonna feel him except for other atheist haters. People don't like to be preached at....even if you're preaching atheism. And besides, Christianity looks very tolerant in comparison to this guy. Like I said, this for atheist haters only. The rest of us have better options.
@DaAlphaOmega Have you heard about the Brights Movement?
What is a bright? * A bright is a person who has a naturalistic worldview * A bright's worldview is free of supernatural and mystical elements * The ethics and actions of a bright are based on a naturalistic worldview
@tagerdinmoedom maybe hes just trying? maybe what he thinks he knows is bullshit just the same as religion,he takes what he knows from other sources the same way ppl read the bible and believe in God,the shit they teach us in school is all bullshit,none of us know shit,they control what we know,we dont know anything at all.
@DaAlphaOmega you're really dumb lol, how about go do your own research and use your logic and reason to decide shit. What your saying is Knowledge doesn't mean anything unless it's absolute, lol.
@Jayjon81 Exactly my point,he still only knows what he was tought,he basis everything he knows on other ppls research,a foundation based on lies,both science and religion are suspect.Forces of nature which cant be observed such as dark matter for example,its still a whole lot of speculation,scientists argument is that its more feasible than God,but really some of what science states is fact is not fact at all,i dont believe in religious bullshit either tho,so dont get me wrong and judge me.
@DaAlphaOmega I see what you are saying, but All scientific theories are base on evidence. Science will allways follow 'Theory + evidence=Truth' formula. Even when their concluion turns out to be wrong, it will be the formula again that proves it. You see you can never go wrong following evidence. Science deals in pratical truthes and not absolutes.
You say u don't believe in "religious BS", yet you have no problems giving Science and Religion equal footing. If i were you i'll do more research.
@DaAlphaOmega oh btw the commet you made "he still only knows what he was tought" there's not many ex-christains now atheist ppl who would just accept whatever their being told. He really does know his stuff.
@Jayjon81 nah,we only see and hear what they allow us to,they keep us in the dark agaes,their comprehension of how the universe works is far beyond what you or i could even begin to understand,we are far behind,we dont know our ass from our elbows,they make sure of that.Even our own senses sometimes fool us.
Perhaps, though it seems decidedly unlikely, given that he's a physics major it seems far more reasonable to assert that he has a genuine curiosity about the universe, and god therefore is a sorta irrelevant proposition. Sure, there are physicists who believe in god, Dyson comes to mind, but there are a lot more Diracs and Feynman than there are Dysons, the more curious you are, generally the less reasonable religion is.
That was a great rap ill admit,but what is their cause? To each their own,if ppl want to belive in a God and it comforts them giving them peice of mind in a dangerous chaotic world then let them be,just my opinion,but if anybody can tell why there is an athiest movement im all ears,im curious,there must be more to it,does it bother athiest ppl may be beliving a lie? Is it for a good cause to better the wolrd? If so im all for it,just not sure what the athiests are hoping to achieve is all.
Rap that's actually smart and doesn't promote drugs, sex, or alcohol. I'm a Christian but everyone is entitled to whatever they think because no one is right. Play on!
DAMMIT, i,ve been used and abused be society LONG ENOUGH. people say im paranoid or crazy, but the same conspiricy been trying my life 4 14 yrs. i no religen is absolute bull cuz im a truth seer and im proud of it (dont ask)
I though this would be kinda wack but he is actually a good rapper, u can tell he makes his research on the subject and he's relaven t plus the dude got flow.
Atheism needs this kind of exposure and dirrection.
Actually he did. Read "Contact". At the end he describes what he believes "god" to be. And it is about as far from the traditional notion of the christian god as you can get, but it is still god.
Well, kinda. He was an agnostic but had a "theory" on what god was. I guess I am wrong to say he 'believed" his theory 100%. Someone would have to be a complete moron to act like they know 100% if god does, or doesn't exist. It's impossible to prove god doesn't exist, and there isn't enough evidence yet to prove he does exist. So technically everyone is an agnostic until there is undeniable proof either way. ;)
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Lol you all have nothing, and I mean nothing on Lecrae, Ambassador, or Flame. Christians do it better baby - they got Jesus and the Word in their lyrics.
The word of what? The bible is no different from any other holy text. Like it or not, christianity isn't the first, the only, or even the most original religion on Earth. It's all borrowed, repurposed rewritten fantasy from the bronze age. Don't trick yourself into thinking it's something special. Take a step back an examine reality.
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What, you mean other than it being the only text that's scientifically correct, historically accurate, and contains direct, specific, prophesy that has come to pass, not to mention being completely the infallible word of God.. Yea other than that its just like any other book ;)
What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever read the bible, the Qur'an, The the book of morman? All claim to be the one true word of god.
So it's okay for me to sell my daughter into slavery, own slaves, beat my slaves, marry more than one wife, yes the bible give you instructions on how to marry more than one women.
I would read the whole book before you make such claims.
Come on man, I listed specific things that the other books don't contain, don't dodge the facts.
The things you are referencing are old testament, which is a different covanent, under a different time, to a different people, under a specific covanent. Come on dude, thats such an elementary argument. If you're gonna argue against the bible at least come with the correct grammatical historical hermanudic, and not take things widely out of context.
The bible is not scientifically accurate. It claims that if sheep look at a striped pattern while mating, they will have striped babies.
Jesus sees the whole world from a high mountain --> only possible on a flat earth.
All the bible passages people claim are scientific are only if you forcefully interpret them that way. Only AFTER our science discovered a certain knowledge, did we look for bible passages that could be interpreted to contain this. The bible never gave us science in advance.
What specific facts did you list, NONE! Is not the old testament the word of god? If it doesn't apply to todays people, why then, do so many christians want the ten commandments posted on goverment buildings, use the book of Gen. to refute evolution, leviticus to stop gay marriage or making the act of homosexaulity a crime. As for slavery, I say to you again, read the whole book. Slavery runs through the entire bible, from Gen. to Rev.
@VidiotGeek I know hitchens reasoning behing the athiest movement was to free the minds of ppl who belive in the lies of religion,is that the ultimate goal,to free ppls minds and get them to think for themself?
@DaAlphaOmega Well....pretty much. Though keep in mind that it is not "Hitchen's reasoning behind the movement" There have been atheists for probably just as long as there have been theists. Ever since someone said, "the great juju lives atop the mountain & controls all we see" and someone else said, "Bullshit."
Who said metal had to be anti religion now we got Anti religion rap Halleuaha! Keep doing your thing Greydon its like Slayer they kept on sticking to their guns and who cares what anybody thinks belive in your music and people will eventually see just like Slayer.
Damn, I'm impressed. Just goes to show that when people rap about junk, like how loud their radio system is, it's not worth listening to. However, when the content has some interesting message it can hold your attention. Well, I guess having a loud radio in your car is really interesting to some people...
I agree intellectual rap is the best Im a metal fan. This dude is smart technically in science talking about scientific stuff in rap that I don't even know Physics is a hard science this guy is smart
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oh and i apologize on behalf of any Christian that has bashed any of you for being an atheist. i think that yall have faith that there is no god just as we have faith that there is a god. I believe it is great for people to discuss beliefs but i think that putting someone down because of their faith is wrong. but it is hard to keep a calm discussion when people feel so strongly about something and i think that is why you get the feeling that all Christians hate you
my favorite part of this is that he says that Christians always say that its always the atheists fault. while at the same time he sits there dissing Christianity and other beliefs. He has nothing to say about what he believes because he is busy making fun of faith. but then complains that people with faith make fun of atheists.
He's not blaming it the Christians. He is just stating what he believes in his own way. Better to defend it through rap than defend it through war, genocide, or slavery. All he's doing is poking holes through arguments. His beliefs are clear and do not need to be explained. He does not believe in any sort of god. And then he explains why.
your right its much better than genocide but he can state what he believes without bringing up christianity. but i just thought of this-to define atheism u must state what a god is because atheism is the belief that no god exists. but Christianity is independent of everything else to be defined. That isnt meant to prove anything that just popped in my head as i was typing.
Greydon is fucking ill... He's a better version of Canibus with a touch of Eminem for vocals and flow... Its too bad he knocked out Brian Serpent, i mean Sapient.
But shit happens. Physicist Hip Hop... Would have never thought i'd see the day... And still go hard... Wow.
My favorite song is Brains :D
UnrestfulDeath 3 weeks ago
He also refered to himself as the "malcomx " of atheism lol
OneNationUnderCanada 3 weeks ago
Wow, this is just awful. I mean come on. Even if you're an atheist, you have to admit that this is just terrible.
ryanmshepard92 1 month ago
@ryanmshepard92 listen to 159 bars by Greydon Square. It might change your mind. This is just a song for the rational response squad.
SACK0FWINE 1 month ago
Greydon is good, but I have to say that if you ARE going to call someone "the black Carl Sagan", that should really be Neil Degrasse Tyson.
dunbar9finger 2 months ago
@Mogley52 Abiogenesis, the transition from nonliving elements to living systems
Origin_of_life at wikipedia
zerghalo2 3 months ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 3 months ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 3 months ago
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
Mogley52 3 months ago
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
Mogley52 3 months ago
@Mogley52 It must be sad trying to falsify a theory when you know nothing about it.
SACK0FWINE 3 months ago
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
Mogley52 3 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 3 months ago
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe works don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
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SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 3 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 3 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 3 months ago
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 3 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
NEW SPECIES: Although new species have come into existence, they don't carry any new genes. They've become new species only because they can't be crossed back with the original parent stock for various biological reasons. A biological "kind" allows for new species but not new genes. Nature has no ability to invent new genes for new traits. Only limited variations and adaptations are possible in nature, and all strictly within a biological "kind" (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.).
Mogley52 3 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 3 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
Mogley52 3 months ago
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DISORDER IN THE UNIVERSE is no argument against God's existence. The disorder is because of chance and entropy, but the order can only be rationally explained due to design. If I discovered a broken watch on the ground, the disorder is no evidence that there wasn't a designer behind the watch. Please read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
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BURDEN OF PROOF: Anyone who claims the level of complexity and order in life and the universe happened by chance has the burden of proof. Many atheists think they have no burden of proof because they’re not claiming the existence of something. That is not true. Atheists are claiming something. They are claiming that we are here by chance and atheists expect for everyone to accept that claim on faith because they certainly can’t prove it. Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 3 months ago
If only we could hear this kind of intelligent rap music on radio.....ahhh, if i just had one wish.
LV07TSK 3 months ago
Fuck yeah
jrjdm86 4 months ago
great!
true lyrics
amazing rapping!
IchFickDeineExistenz 5 months ago
lol @ all the whiney Christians who come here and click dislike and post negative comments, thinking we actually care. :)
JPPraterCO08 8 months ago
eargasm
090681kj 9 months ago
MY GOD a black atheist!? I never thought I'd see the day....next I am off yo find a black Jew!
Milkmanfire 9 months ago
@Milkmanfire lol
JPPraterCO08 8 months ago
@Milkmanfire Just do a search here for “Black Hebrew Israelites”. you’d might be surprised how many.
FullofChillPills 4 months ago
Somehow, I'm hearing a good song and yet christian claim it's crap. I suspect someone's just feeling insulted.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 9 months ago
I'd rather listen to Vanilla Ice than this shit. If I believed that my existence was minuscule in regards to the universe my raison d'etre would not be bitching about religion.
VegaBarcelona 10 months ago
@VegaBarcelona So you'd listen to a chrsitian rapper rap about "god"?
And you think that is more righteous than something else?
Dude, lay off the hating. Your existence is miniscule even if "god" would exist.
I'm on neither side of that debate.
Opethvince 9 months ago
@Opethvince I was not aware Vanilla Ice is a Christian. Personally I find any blunt in your face music dealing with religion or irreligion in this case to be awful. I never implied Vanilla Ice was "righteous." Furthermore telling someone to lay off the hate is a good idea. It's a shame most atheism activists can't express their opinion without being antagonistic. PS I'm not A Christian, don't presume that everyone who criticizes an atheists rhetoric is A Christian. Makes you look bad.
VegaBarcelona 8 months ago
Wow. This DOES make Christian rock look good. At least that has a good tune.
BTIsaac 10 months ago
This says it all, "Ever seen atheist RRS rap? It makes Christian rock look good"
01NiCk01 11 months ago
The black Carl Sagan? Please! Greydon is not a bad lyricist, but nobody's gonna feel him except for other atheist haters. People don't like to be preached at....even if you're preaching atheism. And besides, Christianity looks very tolerant in comparison to this guy. Like I said, this for atheist haters only. The rest of us have better options.
Velayasha 11 months ago
Love this. Starting to like rap now. Thanks Greydon!!!
12stepfailure 1 year ago
I LOVE his t-shirt!
simeon94 1 year ago 5
most muslim are evil
blackisrealites85 1 year ago
@blackisrealites85 most religious people are evil.
dreadguy14 1 year ago
THUMBS UP!!!
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 1 year ago
U gotta love that tshirt
1navyseal1962 1 year ago
drake sucks
FIGHTFANNERD3 1 year ago
255 bible-thumpers.
FallaciousGee 1 year ago 5
@DaAlphaOmega Have you heard about the Brights Movement?
What is a bright? * A bright is a person who has a naturalistic worldview * A bright's worldview is free of supernatural and mystical elements * The ethics and actions of a bright are based on a naturalistic worldview
TheJaredtube 1 year ago
I have to respond to this Guy. As God, (not pseudo God like Kanye or Jay Hove) It is my duty.
ICANGO247 1 year ago
Keep up the good work pimpin.
m0kn33marc 1 year ago
@m0kn33marc hes not pimpin anything...
gerudgutierrez 1 year ago
Hell yea, that was sick. We need more atheist rappers and black atheists.
cksox1 1 year ago 2
maybe he did some really bad unforgivable shit while he was a gangsta in compton so he convinced himself theres no God so he can sleep at night?
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega maybe his usin his brain?
tagerdinmoedom 1 year ago
@tagerdinmoedom maybe hes just trying? maybe what he thinks he knows is bullshit just the same as religion,he takes what he knows from other sources the same way ppl read the bible and believe in God,the shit they teach us in school is all bullshit,none of us know shit,they control what we know,we dont know anything at all.
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega you're really dumb lol, how about go do your own research and use your logic and reason to decide shit. What your saying is Knowledge doesn't mean anything unless it's absolute, lol.
Jayjon81 1 year ago
@Jayjon81 Exactly my point,he still only knows what he was tought,he basis everything he knows on other ppls research,a foundation based on lies,both science and religion are suspect.Forces of nature which cant be observed such as dark matter for example,its still a whole lot of speculation,scientists argument is that its more feasible than God,but really some of what science states is fact is not fact at all,i dont believe in religious bullshit either tho,so dont get me wrong and judge me.
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega I see what you are saying, but All scientific theories are base on evidence. Science will allways follow 'Theory + evidence=Truth' formula. Even when their concluion turns out to be wrong, it will be the formula again that proves it. You see you can never go wrong following evidence. Science deals in pratical truthes and not absolutes.
You say u don't believe in "religious BS", yet you have no problems giving Science and Religion equal footing. If i were you i'll do more research.
Jayjon81 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega oh btw the commet you made "he still only knows what he was tought" there's not many ex-christains now atheist ppl who would just accept whatever their being told. He really does know his stuff.
Jayjon81 1 year ago
@Jayjon81 nah,we only see and hear what they allow us to,they keep us in the dark agaes,their comprehension of how the universe works is far beyond what you or i could even begin to understand,we are far behind,we dont know our ass from our elbows,they make sure of that.Even our own senses sometimes fool us.
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega
Perhaps, though it seems decidedly unlikely, given that he's a physics major it seems far more reasonable to assert that he has a genuine curiosity about the universe, and god therefore is a sorta irrelevant proposition. Sure, there are physicists who believe in god, Dyson comes to mind, but there are a lot more Diracs and Feynman than there are Dysons, the more curious you are, generally the less reasonable religion is.
Killua2001 1 year ago
Awesome.
That3060 1 year ago
That was a great rap ill admit,but what is their cause? To each their own,if ppl want to belive in a God and it comforts them giving them peice of mind in a dangerous chaotic world then let them be,just my opinion,but if anybody can tell why there is an athiest movement im all ears,im curious,there must be more to it,does it bother athiest ppl may be beliving a lie? Is it for a good cause to better the wolrd? If so im all for it,just not sure what the athiests are hoping to achieve is all.
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
keep doin what yall do!
NekroticRhino117 1 year ago
i usually am not a friend of rap music but this is awesome
fakeandgay69 1 year ago
Rap that's actually smart and doesn't promote drugs, sex, or alcohol. I'm a Christian but everyone is entitled to whatever they think because no one is right. Play on!
gaijinblow 1 year ago
@gaijinblow RAP DOESNT PROMOTE THAT IGNORANT ASS IT PROMOTE REALITY
martystreets 1 year ago
Seriously, he needs to do a LIVE CD! His live performances have a lot of passion in them.
GregHuffman 1 year ago
Voice of a generation!
dratsabREVIEWS 1 year ago
Interesting; falling into false doctrines. Boo
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
dude this is awesome
Dreamerx47 1 year ago
I am impressed...
turoturothegreat 1 year ago
awesome
duras 1 year ago
This sounds really good
birdsofbalt 1 year ago
i like
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
DAMMIT, i,ve been used and abused be society LONG ENOUGH. people say im paranoid or crazy, but the same conspiricy been trying my life 4 14 yrs. i no religen is absolute bull cuz im a truth seer and im proud of it (dont ask)
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
ahhhhhh snap
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
I though this would be kinda wack but he is actually a good rapper, u can tell he makes his research on the subject and he's relaven t plus the dude got flow.
Atheism needs this kind of exposure and dirrection.
YungNessTV 2 years ago 5
This man is clearly very educated. Just from his lyics.
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
Is Sapient a spastic? Him and Rook are like two nerds trying to hang with the jocks.
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
geez what happen to all those pussys tom and his book and that whore kasey grant and brian wanted $10.000 for a debate lol
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
Greydon rocks. May he be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
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look for shai linne on youtube, he would murder this guy (on the mic of course)
hanktoni 2 years ago
tight flow bro anyone who say other wise wise just a sheep...
umk82 2 years ago 2
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believe whatever you want to believe. but this hiphop SUCKS ASS
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alright all you atheists, what do you live for if you don't live for Christ?
03alexp 2 years ago
Future generations.
Humankind.
Ourselves.
But really, no one of us will give you the same answer; the only thing we have in common is that we don't believe in god.
LinkKB 2 years ago 4
If that's the only thing that keeps you going, then your life is a sorry life indeed.
ZShogan 2 years ago
I live for one reason, I enjoy life =) is that so hard to understand?
Kojitsu 2 years ago 3
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!!
mohfoz77 2 years ago 3
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Greydon Square is wack :0D
Faergen 2 years ago
does anyone know if andre nikitina is an atheist?
arfx3 2 years ago
never seen anythin like this. where can i buy your cd?
MarcoMeerman 2 years ago
good stuff, good mc! Plus some actual knowledge!!
Getting fed up with all these hip-hop artists thanking god for all their songs!!
guyit 2 years ago 4
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Carl Sagan believed in god...
PancakeRecipes 2 years ago
No he didn't. He was an agnostic atheist.
SonicPsycho 2 years ago 5
Actually he did. Read "Contact". At the end he describes what he believes "god" to be. And it is about as far from the traditional notion of the christian god as you can get, but it is still god.
PancakeRecipes 2 years ago
Ah, so he was a deist. Whenever I've heard him talk about god and religion he always seemed skeptical so I thought that he was agnostic.
SonicPsycho 2 years ago
Well, kinda. He was an agnostic but had a "theory" on what god was. I guess I am wrong to say he 'believed" his theory 100%. Someone would have to be a complete moron to act like they know 100% if god does, or doesn't exist. It's impossible to prove god doesn't exist, and there isn't enough evidence yet to prove he does exist. So technically everyone is an agnostic until there is undeniable proof either way. ;)
PancakeRecipes 2 years ago
Carl Sagan was an atheist. Search for '1000 years of Darkness' or 'Carl Sagan on God'... Dont fall for the creationist lies.
ByronC900 2 years ago
and he smoked weed, he is one of my role models
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goodcitymusic 2 years ago
Bullshit.
Anyone who has ever read a fucking page of his work, or watched one minute of his videos know he was an atheist.
For crying out loud, type "CARL SAGAN ON GOD" in youtube.
Educate yourself you fucking clown.
ByronC900 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind words.
PancakeRecipes 2 years ago
He was and is still an atheist my friend.
ModernManJohnny 2 years ago
believe in gods? we can fix that :D
ryderyderyder 2 years ago
WOOOO oncore!
red50004 2 years ago
One of the best rappers out their.
squizo21 2 years ago
I choose Odin.
Silentkill666 2 years ago
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Lol you all have nothing, and I mean nothing on Lecrae, Ambassador, or Flame. Christians do it better baby - they got Jesus and the Word in their lyrics.
KnightInRomance 2 years ago
The word of what? The bible is no different from any other holy text. Like it or not, christianity isn't the first, the only, or even the most original religion on Earth. It's all borrowed, repurposed rewritten fantasy from the bronze age. Don't trick yourself into thinking it's something special. Take a step back an examine reality.
VidiotGeek 2 years ago 45
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What, you mean other than it being the only text that's scientifically correct, historically accurate, and contains direct, specific, prophesy that has come to pass, not to mention being completely the infallible word of God.. Yea other than that its just like any other book ;)
mrob7 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever read the bible, the Qur'an, The the book of morman? All claim to be the one true word of god.
So it's okay for me to sell my daughter into slavery, own slaves, beat my slaves, marry more than one wife, yes the bible give you instructions on how to marry more than one women.
I would read the whole book before you make such claims.
Telenut69 2 years ago 6
Come on man, I listed specific things that the other books don't contain, don't dodge the facts.
The things you are referencing are old testament, which is a different covanent, under a different time, to a different people, under a specific covanent. Come on dude, thats such an elementary argument. If you're gonna argue against the bible at least come with the correct grammatical historical hermanudic, and not take things widely out of context.
mrob7 2 years ago
The bible is not scientifically accurate. It claims that if sheep look at a striped pattern while mating, they will have striped babies.
Jesus sees the whole world from a high mountain --> only possible on a flat earth.
All the bible passages people claim are scientific are only if you forcefully interpret them that way. Only AFTER our science discovered a certain knowledge, did we look for bible passages that could be interpreted to contain this. The bible never gave us science in advance.
Mithcoriel 2 years ago
What specific facts did you list, NONE! Is not the old testament the word of god? If it doesn't apply to todays people, why then, do so many christians want the ten commandments posted on goverment buildings, use the book of Gen. to refute evolution, leviticus to stop gay marriage or making the act of homosexaulity a crime. As for slavery, I say to you again, read the whole book. Slavery runs through the entire bible, from Gen. to Rev.
Telenut69 2 years ago
Sounds like you haven't read the "infallible word of god" if you believe that shit...
zebrapik 2 years ago
@VidiotGeek I know hitchens reasoning behing the athiest movement was to free the minds of ppl who belive in the lies of religion,is that the ultimate goal,to free ppls minds and get them to think for themself?
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@DaAlphaOmega Well....pretty much. Though keep in mind that it is not "Hitchen's reasoning behind the movement" There have been atheists for probably just as long as there have been theists. Ever since someone said, "the great juju lives atop the mountain & controls all we see" and someone else said, "Bullshit."
VidiotGeek 1 year ago
Not often we get to look so cool.
dannypantsgm 2 years ago 3
Who said metal had to be anti religion now we got Anti religion rap Halleuaha! Keep doing your thing Greydon its like Slayer they kept on sticking to their guns and who cares what anybody thinks belive in your music and people will eventually see just like Slayer.
HardKore5250 2 years ago
Damn, I'm impressed. Just goes to show that when people rap about junk, like how loud their radio system is, it's not worth listening to. However, when the content has some interesting message it can hold your attention. Well, I guess having a loud radio in your car is really interesting to some people...
Galactu5 2 years ago 3
I agree intellectual rap is the best Im a metal fan. This dude is smart technically in science talking about scientific stuff in rap that I don't even know Physics is a hard science this guy is smart
HardKore5250 2 years ago
Would destroy this faker lyrically.
SmokiSounds 2 years ago
PREACH!!!!!!! THIS IS CRACK!
slapbox42 2 years ago
Is all patched between the RRS and Greydon Square? I hope it is.
cjunk351 2 years ago
Nah. I'm happy Greydon took a crack at Brian's face.
Rahful33 2 years ago
why?
cjunk351 2 years ago
clever and good to see
harolds3300 2 years ago
dude, wow. Totally kick. 5 stars
damianpoirier 2 years ago
I didn't know a good atheist rapper could exist. But well, I was wrong.
At least I can admit to it ;)
LRShow 2 years ago
What other Atheist rappers are there?
HardKore5250 2 years ago
Good stuff. I like it. Its going to be like the 80s with hip hop spreading the message, kool.
LozTheAtheist 2 years ago
Needs to team up with MC Hawking.
PaulSoth 2 years ago
I was expecting crap, but this is well written.
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PACHOLKEAS 2 years ago
oh and i apologize on behalf of any Christian that has bashed any of you for being an atheist. i think that yall have faith that there is no god just as we have faith that there is a god. I believe it is great for people to discuss beliefs but i think that putting someone down because of their faith is wrong. but it is hard to keep a calm discussion when people feel so strongly about something and i think that is why you get the feeling that all Christians hate you
rerebill11 3 years ago 3
Respect.
andreynaline 2 years ago
my favorite part of this is that he says that Christians always say that its always the atheists fault. while at the same time he sits there dissing Christianity and other beliefs. He has nothing to say about what he believes because he is busy making fun of faith. but then complains that people with faith make fun of atheists.
rerebill11 3 years ago
He's not blaming it the Christians. He is just stating what he believes in his own way. Better to defend it through rap than defend it through war, genocide, or slavery. All he's doing is poking holes through arguments. His beliefs are clear and do not need to be explained. He does not believe in any sort of god. And then he explains why.
vhsballin31 2 years ago 3
your right its much better than genocide but he can state what he believes without bringing up christianity. but i just thought of this-to define atheism u must state what a god is because atheism is the belief that no god exists. but Christianity is independent of everything else to be defined. That isnt meant to prove anything that just popped in my head as i was typing.
rerebill11 2 years ago
Greydon is fucking ill... He's a better version of Canibus with a touch of Eminem for vocals and flow... Its too bad he knocked out Brian Serpent, i mean Sapient.
But shit happens. Physicist Hip Hop... Would have never thought i'd see the day... And still go hard... Wow.
Skullz747 3 years ago
This guy sick! I know who im listeing to now...
wukillalogic 3 years ago
pretty cool lol. for rap xD
TRIARII117 3 years ago
I love it. Im biased though cuz im an anti-theist, but im a musician too, that might counter my bias a little. So yeah, he rocks!
creationdestroyer321 3 years ago
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The un-motivational poster was right.
Atheist rap:
It makes Christian metal look good.
Anonymous3402121 2 years ago
You wiiiiish
fivefootmohawk 2 years ago
This guy could get me to listen to rap o_o
philman302 3 years ago 4
I assume this was filmed BEFORE Greydon beat the shit out of Brian Sapient?
Sad situation. I understand Greydon had problems with his meds. Hope he recovers fully.
chimaeraproductions 3 years ago
If the accusation about Brian Sapient are true, I would've helped Greydon punch Brian!!
>:-)
Scrapheap71 3 years ago 2
I would too.
Rahful33 2 years ago
whose Brian Sapient?
HardKore5250 2 years ago
Google the Rational Response Squad, he's one of the founders.
VidiotGeek 2 years ago
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And I thought Christian Rock was bad!!!
pbry 3 years ago
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calling yourself a black carl sagan is an insult to carl sagan, not because your black but because you are a fucking idiot
luxfero1 3 years ago
epic lol
Veritas48 3 years ago
It was pretty epic
This guy is dope
neverwasapunk16 3 years ago
This guy is awesome
Textra1 3 years ago 5
This was the first Rap song I've heard that was worth listening!
fuzzywuzzy18 3 years ago 4
I LOVE how much Brian Sapient and Rook Hawkins think of themselves.
fritleyfrisp 3 years ago
I prefer Luda.
icanhassophia 3 years ago
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This makes Christian Rock look good.
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