Man Billy is on fire, classic they way he switches his grip. Chops till next next week just some amazing stuff. No beating Horace either, just excellent.
@Leedysgladstones yesssss, it was a great set,. I have an hollywood president without multisound floor and i am the co leader of the fascebook page for hollywood drums, if you want you can join us. fan delle batterie meazzi hollywood unitevi! is the name
Like Lenny White,Will Kennedy,Carter Breauford,Dennis Wilson===Playing left handed on a right hand set-up.Dom Famularo recently switched to ''open handed drumming'' as they call it now.Nobody told these guys it was wrong,so,it worked for them,but after 50 years of drumming,I wouldn't switch...what's the point? These drummers learned that way!!
I know some of you troglodytes get annoyed when we start comparing drummers. However......... Here - long before many of you were born, BC shows his chops - can hang with the best including BR. Don't get me wrong, Buddy Rich has not been matched to this date, however - no matter how long Buddy lived, he could never duplicate the inimitable style of the power-fusion uniqueness os Cobham. I rest my case.
Che assolo magnifico. Lezione di batteria. Tecnica. Fantasia. Creatività. C'è solo da inchinarsi di fronte a Billy, qui in versione totalmente jazzistica (fra l'altro con un gruppo di all stars). Anche negli anni successivi quando passò alla batteria fusion é rimasto un fenomeno.
Billy is one of the greatest drummers that has ever blessed us with his talent. The chops are phenominal, but he can groove like groove peanut butter and jelly.....with milk of course...hehe. Thanks Billy, you the most brother.
Yamaha Drums also made a Pedal Tom, circa 1980. I have one, a 16 X 16, and have been using it for 30 years. You can manipulate it like a timpani or an African talking drum, and you can tune it so that you can roll up under the ensemble and hit notes on a dime, a lovely melodic effect.
All the greats of past was high high high. Cause the technicallity an creativeity was just awesome. Yes we know that they practice practice practice but they were high doing it.
What makes you think that most of us lefties turn the kit around!! Most of us don't, we just play as if we were right handed. I asked Gary Chaffee about this (also a lefty, who plays a right handed set up) and he agreed that there are an enormous proportion of left handed drummers out there,
Billy's a hero for thinking outside the box and just swapping the cymbals over. So much more convenient and creative.
Thanks for the clarification. I was going by personal experience only - from life observation and apparently wrong assumption.
Billy's power combined with feel is another dynamic that makes him unique, his fluid speed aside.
Otis 'Candy' Finch didn't want me to budge his kit one bit, and told me to just learn to play what you sit down on. He played with Dizzy, Turentine - and may be a very common thing in a world I was never really a part of.
You defo know your stuff dude. What I like is those clean, staccato, double strokes he plays.
So wonderful to find this video. I saw Billy playing when he was touring the "Power of 5" album, playing some really gutsy jazz like this. I love the fact that there's a bit of testosterone flowing. Jazz can really rock!
What makes you think that most of us lefties turn the kit around!! Most of us don't, we just play as if we were right handed. I asked Gary Chaffee about this (also a lefty, who plays a right handed set up) and he agreed that there are an enormous proportion of left handed drummers out there,
Billy's a hero for thinking outside the box and just swapping the cymbals over. So much more convenient and creative.
@rillloudmother Yes he did, i'm sure every drop was part of his life...they live it, breath it, sweat it, they ooze blues and there hard work. Buddy Rich, Stevie Ray, B.B.King, Albert Collins..among many more.
Ahh yeah I saw the the big name Billy Cobham twice. He wasan't so god like on the kit in person. Alot of drumms was his gimmick,very efficient with the left hand..But Joe Morello had more natural ability check the take 5 solo or a couple others of his on here.That mo fo was a bit twisted ,and of course Buddy Rich who was the king of all drummers of all time Port this and Dave that..Foooooowe! Oh yeah Cobham had a bit of an attitude. I kinda turned off towards him. He was snooty!
@rocknrollhoocheecoo Sounds like you're a bit jealous. Cobham is one of the most high-regarded, influential, and great drummers of all time. Your opinion is in the minority.
Man this man can play drums. Guitdude I know you're following me. So tell Portatrd this is more of my league right here. No I'm not this good but I'm not that much behind either. And portard has 0 chance to ever play anything of this caliber that smokes his non playing ass..
I first saw Billy at a little music festival in Ona, WV at a race track. He was playing with Dreams then (a funky horn band which included both the Brecker brothers). He was playing a small kit like this one (maybe the very same one for all I know), and man did he make us forget whoever else was on the bill. Believe it or not, Grand Funk Railroad was the headlining band that evening. Dreams came on, then a band called Zephyr (including a guitarist by the name of Tommy Bolin).
I never knew Cobham used a traditional grip, Horace's solo is killer. At the end he looks high!! It's so funny how he acts right as the last note hits and addresses the audience. This is when jazz was so strong. Like Mtume said, "jazz stopped when the real jazz players refused to use electric instruments." But they didn't need electric instruments here, because they are on fire, they brought their own electricity. After this year, Cobham started playing on Miles sessions and hooked up with JM!
Bonjour, c'est vraiment sympa de mélanger les percussions et le batterie. Bravo pour le travail réaliser. Je t'invite à venir voir mes extraits sur youtube:
Christophe Mouz
Bonne continuation
Je joue Spain de Chick Coréa, sur celui du vendredi soir, vers la fin.
he's got a tunable 'multisound' floor tom. Like a timpani drum with a pedal. this was a common feature of the ITALIAN made Hollywood Meazzi President model drums that he is using. Those toms are hard to find and sound great. Max Roach and a few other greats also used them.
I think what Cobham decide early on was to approach things in a totally logical way; the way he plays makes perfect sense.
Having read an interview in Modern Drummer he did get some weird looks when he was at College but insisted on sticking his guns. He'll always be a big hero of mine.
Interesting to see Cobham using traditional grip. He holds them as if he's left handed, but the kit isn't set up that way. The ride cymbal is where you'd expect for a lefty, but nothing else is. This is the earliest example I've seen of what came to be known as 'open handed' drumming, which BC was an early pioneer of. Cool video, thanks.
Its pretty cool to see Billy Cobham playing in this genre, I heard about his playing days with Horace Silver but never got a chance to see or hear it.
If you want to hear the ULTIMATE Gaddalways listen To Peter Erskine. I f you want to go to the topof the atmosphere it's always Tony williamsand Buddy Rich. gadd doesn't even enter my equation
You know what is really too bad is that peter erskine doesn't go back and rerecord everything that Gadd has ever done to up the level. don't you think. Corea ain't shit compared to this Horace silver BTW.
I saw Billy Cobham at a drum clinic a few years back. Someone asked him a straight question, are you right or left handed? He wouldn't give a straight answer. I tried to see him sign albums and autographs later, but the crowd was too dense. I suspect he is a left hander who plays a right handed kit. During the clinic he played traditional grip both right handed and left handed ^_^
I always thought Cobham was a right handed player who played left hand lead, but he switches to trad grip in his right hand here? so he's actually left handed but with the kick on the right??
i used to play that way. now I play full left with the kick in my left.
also I have seen someone right handed who played in a right set (all right) but he played left hand lead, he was starting the stickings with his left........ weird!
what I saw was his natural playing!...very very weird!!
As you said, it's very helpfull to change your set-up.....I used to do it in the past because of the fact that I was sharing a set with my friend and I was bored to changing it all the time!
You have to be able to do it both ways. I practice everything as much as possible with both hands doing the opposite parts. The only thing you don't try with your right hand is the traditional grip, that's only for the left.
Seems Billy would disagree with you pyro, as you see in this video he is playing on a drum set set up for a right handed player, but a couple times in this video is playing traditional grip with the right hand, NOT the left. BTW, at 65 years old, Cobham has lost nothing, and has even gotten better which is hard to fathom. He's STILL one of the funkiest drummers with some of the most incredible technique around.
But that's Billy though, my teacher said to not to use it on your right hand unless you are really really left handed and have the hihat on the right side as well.
pyro, Yes, I would agree with what your teacher says. But realize there are many ways to do the same thing. A good teacher will show you the tried and true methods that have been developed over the years. A good teacher should also tell you their way is not the only way. You learn the "rules" before you break the rules. In the end, a great drummer will play the way that is best for them after learning the standard methods. The teacher should also tell you to be open to all information available.
It's just that some people just DON'T get the fact that it's unsafe to try it with both hands. So do you think I should refer them to this video so that they can see that it takes a LOT of practice and an immortal such as Billy Cobham to accomplish such a thing.
pyro, that's JUST NOT TRUE! Or maybe I misunderstand you. Please define "unsafe".
What is unsafe? What will physically harm a drummer? If they hold trad grip like a left handed drummer on a right handed drum set?
I suggest you go through Gary Chester's New Breed #1 book to dispel these notions you have that a right handed player should not learn things in a left handed way. Lot's of drummers do this. Carter Beauford and Lennie White are 2 more drummers for you to check out that do exactly this.
pyro, how in the world can you say that Max Roach almost NEVER used traditional grip? That's just not true...again. Maybe towards the end of his life it would be true. Max's legendary recordings with Charlie Parker, then with Clifford Brown, then with his early groups he almost exclusively used traditional grip. You really need to research the whole history of such a legendary drummer before you make such a broad sweeping statement about that drummer.
@McYaballow so, he's right handed but he plays the drums like a lefty (on the hands). it's rare but it happens... e.g. I play the drums fully as a left handed but I play the guitar as a right handed... I cannot in any other way!
all these have to do with what you feel comfortable for you....
This dude is fuckeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen good in this it's not even funny. Who could give a rats ass how mediocre Dennis chambers is in comparison. WTF am I saying Chambers can't EVEN SWING!!!! God I like this and Tony Williams and Philly JOe so much.
This is even better than the Total Eclipse era when I discovered this master. I'm now certain that my decision to quit was correct, after seeing this so many years later. I could never master the instrument enough to say what I felt.
It's hard to believe that less than a year later he's playing that huge Fibes kit with the Mahavishnu Orchestra minus the suit. What a time warp!
drumndummer1 1 day ago
Was Cobham using some kind of typani pedal on the floor tom At the beginning of his solo? Tha was awesome!
drumndummer1 1 day ago
Damn. @superugly75, thanks for the tip.
kellyjdrummer1 2 days ago
Nobody uses minor chords like Horace,a true genius of piano and compostion....
superugly75 2 months ago
the nicest ive ever heard billys kit sound :D, such a good solo
MotorheadDrew 3 months ago
He could be left handed, and so he used his right hand for traditional grip.
DRUMMERMARK100 3 months ago
HolyShiiit!
iCanStudio 3 months ago
HolyShiiit!
iCanStudio 3 months ago
Man Billy is on fire, classic they way he switches his grip. Chops till next next week just some amazing stuff. No beating Horace either, just excellent.
guyfidelity 4 months ago
Anyone know the name of this song?
Leedysgladstones 5 months ago
@Leedysgladstones nutville
valentynesuite 3 months ago
@Leedysgladstones Nutville,composed by the GREAT Mr.Silver & if you'd like to hear a kickin arrangement of this tune youtube Buddy Rich,Nutville.....
superugly75 2 months ago
Ohh snap he was using the Hollywood multisound floor tom at the beginning of the solo
Leedysgladstones 5 months ago
@Leedysgladstones yesssss, it was a great set,. I have an hollywood president without multisound floor and i am the co leader of the fascebook page for hollywood drums, if you want you can join us. fan delle batterie meazzi hollywood unitevi! is the name
valentynesuite 3 months ago
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Leedysgladstones 5 months ago
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Billy, 24 years old!
sergiodrs1 5 months ago
PIANO PLAYER SWEATING LIKE HE'S ON A TREADMILL.. STILL BAD ASS THOUGH!!
murdok620 6 months ago
Did you see how fast Mr. Cobham played those pedals? 5:40 - In a suit, too!
houseofburn 6 months ago
he's left handed / right handed
rides on the left with the hats, and the crashes on the right
OMG, why was i born in the 80's?
perceptionsevrything 6 months ago
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Hey, if anyone has the time, do you think you could check out my drum solo and tell me what you think, what needs work, etc.? Thank you.
tylerdav1 6 months ago
Some of the greatest musicians ever to walk the earth..all these guys in this band.
jetfreak4 6 months ago
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johndonofrio84x 6 months ago
fuck ur gravity blast
johndonofrio84x 6 months ago 5
someone could tell what is the name of this song ?
please, thank
ricoparenty1 6 months ago
@ricoparenty1 Nutville :)
psyne000 6 months ago
Horace Silver looks like he belongs in a Tool music video.
Drumstixxxes 7 months ago 2
@Drumstixxxes Nice. ;)
XxSharkBatexX 6 months ago
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sclapione 5 months ago
Yooooooo where did this come from. This is classic!!!!!
blessedboy2 7 months ago
Cobham is swinging hard here!
Diatonic5th 7 months ago
Like Lenny White,Will Kennedy,Carter Breauford,Dennis Wilson===Playing left handed on a right hand set-up.Dom Famularo recently switched to ''open handed drumming'' as they call it now.Nobody told these guys it was wrong,so,it worked for them,but after 50 years of drumming,I wouldn't switch...what's the point? These drummers learned that way!!
ralfodrum 8 months ago
1/5 of the MO and spice of the Bitches Brew...
Imasexyblkman 8 months ago
black magic!!!!!
ericrob2112 8 months ago
Ballin'.
spacitydrummer4JC 9 months ago
wooAAAHHH this dude is amazing!!!!
peteski321 9 months ago
I know some of you troglodytes get annoyed when we start comparing drummers. However......... Here - long before many of you were born, BC shows his chops - can hang with the best including BR. Don't get me wrong, Buddy Rich has not been matched to this date, however - no matter how long Buddy lived, he could never duplicate the inimitable style of the power-fusion uniqueness os Cobham. I rest my case.
JEFFSification 9 months ago
@JEFFSification Couldn't you have rested your case BEFORE addressing me as "troglodyte?" I ignored the rest.
dantean 9 months ago
@JEFFSification
try a max roach or tony williams on for size
MrTBoneWallace 7 months ago
Billy is just somthin else! THANX TM BOSTON
tomtomdrum69 9 months ago
Che assolo magnifico. Lezione di batteria. Tecnica. Fantasia. Creatività. C'è solo da inchinarsi di fronte a Billy, qui in versione totalmente jazzistica (fra l'altro con un gruppo di all stars). Anche negli anni successivi quando passò alla batteria fusion é rimasto un fenomeno.
lzzmda 10 months ago
legends
smess60 10 months ago
Billy is one of the greatest drummers that has ever blessed us with his talent. The chops are phenominal, but he can groove like groove peanut butter and jelly.....with milk of course...hehe. Thanks Billy, you the most brother.
psyne000 10 months ago
Yamaha Drums also made a Pedal Tom, circa 1980. I have one, a 16 X 16, and have been using it for 30 years. You can manipulate it like a timpani or an African talking drum, and you can tune it so that you can roll up under the ensemble and hit notes on a dime, a lovely melodic effect.
chipstern 11 months ago
2:40 is it just me or those drum sticks look like they are 2 & 1/2 feet long?
MrMutron 11 months ago
Hey guys, it's Lenny Bruce on Piano!!!
MrMutron 11 months ago
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egyptianminor 11 months ago
Nice. Old school grip and everything. I never was a fan of his later fusion stuff, not the drums so much, just the music. (stratus was cool though)
jerrywitaj 11 months ago
Horace is killing the piano. Sounds similar at times to the Super Mario piano medley by that asian guy.
1by1illknockuout 11 months ago
Bad to the bone Billy. Damn this guy knows how to play all styles of drums so fucking well. Bravo Bravo Bravo..
one4technique 11 months ago
PURE GREATNESS!!!
Imakebeats65 11 months ago
Yes Billy has always played left handed on a right handed kit. Met Billy a few times and he is a bad ass mofo.
TheGolfSpace 1 year ago
why when speaking about jazz great drummers ,,,they use to forgot at Billy ?
lolodrums 1 year ago
Oh MAN! Billy can SWWAANNGG!! What a great post!
ddrums001 1 year ago
seems like a left handed drummer playin´ a right handed kit.
brokeandhungryxx 1 year ago
Horace banging dem bones, Billy tappin' them skins...it just don't get much better dan dat!! WOW!!
bobafjr 1 year ago
Those lights must be hot, or the piano player is on something.
1pick2sticks 1 year ago
@1pick2sticks Horace was into the scag big time...but then a lot of jazz bods were then. It never hindered their game....indeed the opposite.
TheUchoob 1 year ago
Is the pianist Till Lindeman?
rambadibow 1 year ago 2
Un freaking believable
downjones72 1 year ago
Unbelievable solo... but the groove @ 5:35 to bring the band back in... you GOTTA be kiddin' me!!!!
motard117 1 year ago
All the greats of past was high high high. Cause the technicallity an creativeity was just awesome. Yes we know that they practice practice practice but they were high doing it.
performanceavtivated 1 year ago
I'm curious... what caused him to not turn the kit around like most lefties.
Still in all, he's not of this world.
He holds his right stick conventional style at times, so that validates your statement.
He was in the Army marching band with Grover Washington Jr. and Roger Glenn. Wonder if he used conventional grip on the marching snare.
billytheweasel 1 year ago
What makes you think that most of us lefties turn the kit around!! Most of us don't, we just play as if we were right handed. I asked Gary Chaffee about this (also a lefty, who plays a right handed set up) and he agreed that there are an enormous proportion of left handed drummers out there,
Billy's a hero for thinking outside the box and just swapping the cymbals over. So much more convenient and creative.
Whelouski 1 year ago
@Whelouski
Thanks for the clarification. I was going by personal experience only - from life observation and apparently wrong assumption.
Billy's power combined with feel is another dynamic that makes him unique, his fluid speed aside.
Otis 'Candy' Finch didn't want me to budge his kit one bit, and told me to just learn to play what you sit down on. He played with Dizzy, Turentine - and may be a very common thing in a world I was never really a part of.
billytheweasel 1 year ago
@billytheweasel
You defo know your stuff dude. What I like is those clean, staccato, double strokes he plays.
So wonderful to find this video. I saw Billy playing when he was touring the "Power of 5" album, playing some really gutsy jazz like this. I love the fact that there's a bit of testosterone flowing. Jazz can really rock!
Whelouski 1 year ago
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What makes you think that most of us lefties turn the kit around!! Most of us don't, we just play as if we were right handed. I asked Gary Chaffee about this (also a lefty, who plays a right handed set up) and he agreed that there are an enormous proportion of left handed drummers out there,
Billy's a hero for thinking outside the box and just swapping the cymbals over. So much more convenient and creative.
Whelouski 1 year ago
I'm curious... what caused him to not turn the kit around like most lefties.
Still in all, he's not of this world.
billytheweasel 1 year ago
billy rockin' the traditional grip. don't think of billy as traditional gripper. cool.
ruffbizness 1 year ago
this is incredible. thank you very much for the upload.
ruffbizness 1 year ago
Amazing clip! Big fan of Horace and Billy, never seen this before !!!!
kasponya 1 year ago
Bill was gettin' busy! :) Cool jams.
8087j 1 year ago
Matched grip, left hand lead, 1968. He is an alien.
billytheweasel 1 year ago 62
@billytheweasel He's a lefty playing on a right handed kit
MMaatthhiieeuu 1 year ago
@billytheweasel I know...talk about Carter Beauford- DMB
egyptianminor 11 months ago
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@billytheweasel let's not even get started on the tie!
ChrisCummins 8 months ago
Billys still underrated, he plays with total class. I know he would appreciate drummings next big thing, MMA's ray3handssnow.
Bro, hes changing the instrument, hes an absolute freak..
MyHandsofstone 1 year ago
@MyHandsofstone Stop that self-promotion, lamer.
MikePostDrums 1 year ago
I always appreciated Billy's BeBop playing far-and-above his fusion style.
pooperscoopr69 1 year ago
Always amazing to listen to these guys. Horace looks like he's tripping balls man!
oatstao 1 year ago
I HAD NO IDEA BILLY COBHAM WAS A JAZZ DRUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WahkibaJ 1 year ago
@WahkibaJ Where do you think he got his chops from, daddy-o?? There would be no Spectrum,without those jazz meters and freestyle fellowship
oatstao 1 year ago
WOW... a Great Quintet..!!
Vintage in black & white... Horace & Billy really Cook...!!
mrprogjazzgto 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!
peteski321 1 year ago
Fantastisch!
truejanine 1 year ago
I love this video footage. I think Billy has a real Buddy Rich kind of savage attack approach to his playing. What a unique and inspiring player
steveballstadt 1 year ago
Wow the key man sure is sweating alot? Hmm...
DAN59823 1 year ago
@DAN59823 that's horace and he sweated pure blues.
rillloudmother 1 year ago
@rillloudmother Yes he did, i'm sure every drop was part of his life...they live it, breath it, sweat it, they ooze blues and there hard work. Buddy Rich, Stevie Ray, B.B.King, Albert Collins..among many more.
DAN59823 1 year ago
@DAN59823 idk about the SRV inclusion in that company :D, but hell yeah.
rillloudmother 1 year ago
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jbc6 1 year ago
Ahh yeah I saw the the big name Billy Cobham twice. He wasan't so god like on the kit in person. Alot of drumms was his gimmick,very efficient with the left hand..But Joe Morello had more natural ability check the take 5 solo or a couple others of his on here.That mo fo was a bit twisted ,and of course Buddy Rich who was the king of all drummers of all time Port this and Dave that..Foooooowe! Oh yeah Cobham had a bit of an attitude. I kinda turned off towards him. He was snooty!
rocknrollhoocheecoo 1 year ago
@rocknrollhoocheecoo Sounds like you're a bit jealous. Cobham is one of the most high-regarded, influential, and great drummers of all time. Your opinion is in the minority.
jbc6 1 year ago
cocaine style !
brelamich 1 year ago
Man this man can play drums. Guitdude I know you're following me. So tell Portatrd this is more of my league right here. No I'm not this good but I'm not that much behind either. And portard has 0 chance to ever play anything of this caliber that smokes his non playing ass..
drummerforreal1 1 year ago
@drummerforreal1 This video has nothing 2 do with Portnoy u dumb fuck n portnoy is very talented shut up stop hating on people that r better then u
Lobones0066 1 year ago
I first saw Billy at a little music festival in Ona, WV at a race track. He was playing with Dreams then (a funky horn band which included both the Brecker brothers). He was playing a small kit like this one (maybe the very same one for all I know), and man did he make us forget whoever else was on the bill. Believe it or not, Grand Funk Railroad was the headlining band that evening. Dreams came on, then a band called Zephyr (including a guitarist by the name of Tommy Bolin).
chungiemunchin 1 year ago
search: Amorphic drum .....( 1st video result ).
what technique is this??
willforty2 1 year ago
great phat sound!
gnativerson 1 year ago
Incredible play, he was already a precursor!!!
Wiiyork 1 year ago
Cobham is such a monster. This is great to see him in his younger days.
Synthetrix 1 year ago
i've never, ever, ever, EVAR, seen someone use/tear up (in a good way) a tiny little 6 piece kit like that before!!!
PinkLilipop 1 year ago
just amazing
Phantompain7 1 year ago
I never knew Cobham used a traditional grip, Horace's solo is killer. At the end he looks high!! It's so funny how he acts right as the last note hits and addresses the audience. This is when jazz was so strong. Like Mtume said, "jazz stopped when the real jazz players refused to use electric instruments." But they didn't need electric instruments here, because they are on fire, they brought their own electricity. After this year, Cobham started playing on Miles sessions and hooked up with JM!
triofdoom 1 year ago
now That's Passsion!
Suprematista 1 year ago
Man theyre COOKIN
fuckoff1348 1 year ago
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Bonjour, c'est vraiment sympa de mélanger les percussions et le batterie. Bravo pour le travail réaliser. Je t'invite à venir voir mes extraits sur youtube:
Christophe Mouz
Bonne continuation
Je joue Spain de Chick Coréa, sur celui du vendredi soir, vers la fin.
chrismouz 1 year ago
It's amazing that he plays lefthanded with a righthanded set.
That was a total pleasure to see/hear.
DAGUY 1 year ago
@DAGUY Billy Cobham is ambidextrous.
breadcrumbsins 1 year ago
@breadcrumbsins actually he's not. He is truly right-handed and at a local drumclinic he held, he said when playing drums his left hand is stronger.
McYaballow 1 year ago
Op, never mind, I guess I should have paid attention. I think it is a pillow
Wolfparade51 1 year ago
afro beat on speed
jwhitley3 1 year ago
Man, seeing him flip the drumstick in his right hand during this solo around just after the 3:25 mark is really something.
not too much footage of Cobham playing like this.
thanx for posting.
Horace Silver is great.
1Delta 2 years ago 3
How is he raising the pitch of the floor tom at 2:31?
Has that tom got a pedal like a kettle drum?
gavbag1234 2 years ago
he's got a tunable 'multisound' floor tom. Like a timpani drum with a pedal. this was a common feature of the ITALIAN made Hollywood Meazzi President model drums that he is using. Those toms are hard to find and sound great. Max Roach and a few other greats also used them.
octopoli 2 years ago 22
Thanks for that. Great answer, appreciate it.
gavbag1234 2 years ago
no problem. my favourite drums. search youtube for tronicdrums by meazzi for another original idea from them in the 60s.
octopoli 2 years ago
@gavbag1234 I think he just presses a stick down on the head. My friend and I always did that in jazz band
Wolfparade51 1 year ago
I think he's pushing up on the bottom head of the floor tom with his foot. you can kinda see him transition back to the bass drum after he does it.
draftdodger 2 years ago
how is he bending the pitch of his floor tom??
jaydude214 2 years ago
Wow...............4:32.....what was that?????
TheBeatSmith 2 years ago
I think what Cobham decide early on was to approach things in a totally logical way; the way he plays makes perfect sense.
Having read an interview in Modern Drummer he did get some weird looks when he was at College but insisted on sticking his guns. He'll always be a big hero of mine.
63Brummie 2 years ago 2
@bdwami If you'd bothered to read my post, you'd realize Cobham uses an open handed technique. Look it up.
Asymmatrix 2 years ago
Interesting to see Cobham using traditional grip. He holds them as if he's left handed, but the kit isn't set up that way. The ride cymbal is where you'd expect for a lefty, but nothing else is. This is the earliest example I've seen of what came to be known as 'open handed' drumming, which BC was an early pioneer of. Cool video, thanks.
Asymmatrix 2 years ago
@Asymmatrix Whatever gets the job done ;)
jazzbummer 2 years ago
Horace Silver looks like a black Abraham Lincoln! :) Mad skills though!
MaestroUJ 2 years ago
Billy looks so into his beats!!! 5:35 is awsome to hear and hilarious to watch!
MaestroUJ 2 years ago
john williams sure is a lot less black these days
RorySinn 2 years ago
This dude silver is zo cool the way he playes the pino
darrythedoper 2 years ago
Its pretty cool to see Billy Cobham playing in this genre, I heard about his playing days with Horace Silver but never got a chance to see or hear it.
JIMFISHES1 2 years ago
go look at dennis chambers october 1986 drum solo
onesogreat77 2 years ago
If you want to hear the ULTIMATE Gaddalways listen To Peter Erskine. I f you want to go to the topof the atmosphere it's always Tony williamsand Buddy Rich. gadd doesn't even enter my equation
rrdrums110 2 years ago
Billy smoking that lame gadd ass in groove and most definetley in chopland .
Smoke that ass Billy.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
rrdrums110 2 years ago
Yeah, Steve Gadd really sucks! Now Micky Dolenz could lay some real shit down if you ask me.
Lehmann108 2 years ago
So much for account closed asswipe.
rrdrums110 2 years ago
You know what is really too bad is that peter erskine doesn't go back and rerecord everything that Gadd has ever done to up the level. don't you think. Corea ain't shit compared to this Horace silver BTW.
rrdrums110 2 years ago
I saw Billy Cobham at a drum clinic a few years back. Someone asked him a straight question, are you right or left handed? He wouldn't give a straight answer. I tried to see him sign albums and autographs later, but the crowd was too dense. I suspect he is a left hander who plays a right handed kit. During the clinic he played traditional grip both right handed and left handed ^_^
SAHBfan 2 years ago
billy cobham is a god!
bigvinsweetevil71 2 years ago
What drums was he playing there?
Psycho9263 2 years ago
@Psycho9263
Meazzi Hollywood with a foot pedal tunable floor tom...very cool kit! Wish I coul stumble over one those...
karstenboy 2 years ago
@Psycho9263
Meazzi Hollywood with a foot pedal tunable floor tom. Very cool kit!
karstenboy 2 years ago
Billy is so amazingly talented that I really don't think it matters.
Echo383 2 years ago 2
These guys are good man...............
bcwdrums 2 years ago
I always thought Cobham was a right handed player who played left hand lead, but he switches to trad grip in his right hand here? so he's actually left handed but with the kick on the right??
anyone?
digimaton 2 years ago
He leads with his left hand but uses his right foot on the kick, like Carter Beauford.
zengreendrum 2 years ago
no no mang, carter beauford like billy cobham
MrBlue707 2 years ago 2
yes!
......he's a lefty with the kick on the right.
i used to play that way. now I play full left with the kick in my left.
also I have seen someone right handed who played in a right set (all right) but he played left hand lead, he was starting the stickings with his left........ weird!
irka6utu 2 years ago
thanks for clearing that up. Some guys change their set-ups intentionally for a period, to train in their weaker side, so maybe that's what you saw?
Most of us has enough to contend with figuring things out as they are ; )
digimaton 2 years ago
what I saw was his natural playing!...very very weird!!
As you said, it's very helpfull to change your set-up.....I used to do it in the past because of the fact that I was sharing a set with my friend and I was bored to changing it all the time!
you train your balances very well....try it!
best wishes!
irka6utu 2 years ago
You have to be able to do it both ways. I practice everything as much as possible with both hands doing the opposite parts. The only thing you don't try with your right hand is the traditional grip, that's only for the left.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
Seems Billy would disagree with you pyro, as you see in this video he is playing on a drum set set up for a right handed player, but a couple times in this video is playing traditional grip with the right hand, NOT the left. BTW, at 65 years old, Cobham has lost nothing, and has even gotten better which is hard to fathom. He's STILL one of the funkiest drummers with some of the most incredible technique around.
DrumTchr 2 years ago
But that's Billy though, my teacher said to not to use it on your right hand unless you are really really left handed and have the hihat on the right side as well.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
pyro, Yes, I would agree with what your teacher says. But realize there are many ways to do the same thing. A good teacher will show you the tried and true methods that have been developed over the years. A good teacher should also tell you their way is not the only way. You learn the "rules" before you break the rules. In the end, a great drummer will play the way that is best for them after learning the standard methods. The teacher should also tell you to be open to all information available.
DrumTchr 2 years ago
Sure thing, I'll also do that when people ask me about traditional grip.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
It's just that some people just DON'T get the fact that it's unsafe to try it with both hands. So do you think I should refer them to this video so that they can see that it takes a LOT of practice and an immortal such as Billy Cobham to accomplish such a thing.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
pyro, that's JUST NOT TRUE! Or maybe I misunderstand you. Please define "unsafe".
What is unsafe? What will physically harm a drummer? If they hold trad grip like a left handed drummer on a right handed drum set?
I suggest you go through Gary Chester's New Breed #1 book to dispel these notions you have that a right handed player should not learn things in a left handed way. Lot's of drummers do this. Carter Beauford and Lennie White are 2 more drummers for you to check out that do exactly this.
DrumTchr 2 years ago
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pyromohanzed 2 years ago
pyro, how in the world can you say that Max Roach almost NEVER used traditional grip? That's just not true...again. Maybe towards the end of his life it would be true. Max's legendary recordings with Charlie Parker, then with Clifford Brown, then with his early groups he almost exclusively used traditional grip. You really need to research the whole history of such a legendary drummer before you make such a broad sweeping statement about that drummer.
DrumTchr 2 years ago
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pyromohanzed 2 years ago
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pyromohanzed 2 years ago
@irka6utu FYI billy cobham is not a lefty. he's truly right handed actually.
McYaballow 1 year ago
@McYaballow so, he's right handed but he plays the drums like a lefty (on the hands). it's rare but it happens... e.g. I play the drums fully as a left handed but I play the guitar as a right handed... I cannot in any other way!
all these have to do with what you feel comfortable for you....
irka6utu 1 year ago
These Gentlemen are a gift to the world, y'all had better appreciate that.
psyne000 2 years ago 2
And How!
Psycho9263 2 years ago
bien ahi
topopunk 2 years ago
scary thing is hes only like 23 or 24 here, lol.
Nuxunumo 2 years ago
Love the Les Dawson tribute @1:38.
I guess only the UK guys will appreciate that one {:o |
drsteve0487 2 years ago
This dude is fuckeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen good in this it's not even funny. Who could give a rats ass how mediocre Dennis chambers is in comparison. WTF am I saying Chambers can't EVEN SWING!!!! God I like this and Tony Williams and Philly JOe so much.
rrdrums110 2 years ago
Wonderful, thanks!
romeishome1 2 years ago
this is beautiful.
Pat1391 2 years ago
amazing
qwertyvoodoo 2 years ago
i think this is very rare video!! thx for upload!
flippaton 2 years ago
This is even better than the Total Eclipse era when I discovered this master. I'm now certain that my decision to quit was correct, after seeing this so many years later. I could never master the instrument enough to say what I felt.
billytheweasel 2 years ago
you are a weasel.
unclejunglebass 2 years ago