Just coming in to say that the Banshee Backdoor strategy DOES WORK. I literally just did it. You gotta have a ton of banshees to where you can one-shot the photon cannons and don't stop moving 'till you get to your prize! Seriously though, like 20 or more banshees.
Another way to get those relics without wasting time is to save up energy in your orbital, know where they are, scan and drop a mule next to it. Since this mission doesn't really require too much mining it's pretty easy credits =]
This strat does not work if you dont have Auto Reactors or Automated Refinery at all. Not saying he's dumb or anything, just wont work unless you have those
There's a shit-ton of obs in the last base you get to before the final push. Might want to save a scan or the HT push you can get might make you pretty sour about life when your banshees get double-stormed.
It works quite easily, just get 25 banshees like he does (via turteling a bit after you get your 3rd base (destroyed third base) and just follow and kill what he does and you will have no problems what-so-ever...oh and save alot just in case ;)
finally beat it following what somebody else here said. I ddin't have tech reacs at this point, i needed one more protoss research but what i did was make as many banshees as i could with some science vessels and flew south east...taking some time to wipe out the little bases in my way...stayed to the far lower right till the flames were right about to touch the artifact then i went with my 21 banshees and destroyed it quick.
i feel like the easist way to do this is still with siege breaker + upgraded marines and slowly leap frog. But i goto say the backdoor works but its not always 100% working.
I tried "backdooring it" And it doesn't work at all. I had about 15-16 banshees, fucked everything in my path, than hit all the cannons yet the phoenexis and other AA flyers destroyed me. I have to agree with VerrySuave on this one, they definetly have observers or something
To any1 who wants the 4th protoss research, do exactly what Zai did, except instead of going the top left way, go the bottom right way. And bring 1 viking along. When you fly over the 4th research, land the viking and viola, go and backdoor :D
@eric0095 there's a templar protecting the last research. Much easier to scan it and drop a mule on it. It takes like 2 seconds of micro and you're done. Best to wait until just before you push in for the final assault, since earlier you're gonna want to use your energy for mineral harvesting.
FUCK THIS STUPID SHITTY MISSION! FUCK IT! FFS WITHOUT FUCKING TECHREACTOR AND AUTOREFINERY YOU CANT TO THIS FUCK ITFWGIUAEEdasfgfgeewcldas FUCK ! IM NOT PLAYING THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AGAIN FOR THIS FUCKING STUPID SHITTY MISSION FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I just beat this game with only 6 banhees, several marines, marauder, medics ( I only have 50 land units) and the globe thingy. It is really easy especially with that globe thingy help spot which unit is fake when they make clones
@PressXtonotdie dude i bought that fucking perk about 9 months ago when i didnt know anyone thing about Starcraft 2 or anything about RTS games but thanks for being an asshole over the internet...you must be so superior to everyone you meet
I HATE THIS MISSION! although zai is op I think after the patch this strat dosen't seem to work after 4 tries I figured it out. I collected all the protoss researches with dropping M.U.L.E.S. I moved along the bottom of map with my base soaking up the patches and not engaging any protoss bases using 1 detector(raven)banshees and 4vikings. After theres no resources left, move to far bottom right and wait for fire to burn everything out and to start burning the temple. and move up and snipe it
Yeah they have ObServer and in this Video ObServer is not present. After a lot of Sentry and Immortal Colossi continue to attack you and in this Video i not see this. And at end i found they have Prisma and not Pilons + ObServer in the bottom base.
Is not the first time I see th thing more different from Brutal 1.3.1 and Zai Brutal Video, also in another mission (Haven Fall) in all games never see they attack from South when i have Played they attack me with 4 times major force.
@GSBConstantine You can take down the artifact vault at the end with like four banshees. I didn't have a tech reactor either yet on my brutal run (I'm saving the Haven mission for the end because it's so much fun having Hanson on board. The 1st time through on Hard I kept doing her missions cuz of some chivalrous "always save the girl" junk, which made "Safe Haven" freakin hard, and then she was gone from the ship like 10 missions in). I think just making a second starport should be enough.
Dude, I DID exactly that!! Somehow the swines can still detect me ... I finally did finish it but only because I came with enough Banshees and although they were swatting me from the sky, I just had enough to do it!
Backdooring at the end where Psy does it no longer works. I think they have observers now since patch 1.2.2 (or whatever). Tried it like 5,000,000 times, same result ... ANNIHILATION!
@VerrrySuave no you can still do it. I know the part you are talking about. You are barely in the range of a scout. If you move to the right spot behind it they cant hit you.
@peffiSC2source yes but they both attack the same part of the colossi.... so basically it would make sense if the banshees could only shoot the legs... but they also shoot the top of the colossi just like the vikings ,which makesn o sense.
@Arkains10 dude its a game xD why bother with that if what the games makes so good, the balance, is getting better and better. maybe you could axplain it with this: they both attack the head because you cant miss it. attacking the legs is too hard to aim for etc^^
Easiest way to beat this map: fly your banshees and buildings all the way to the right edge of the map (busting your way through the small protoss bases and building banshees along the way). Then wait until the wall of fire is just about to reach the artifact before attacking it. That way most of the protoss forces (especially those pesky storming HTs) are dead to the wall of fire and you only have to deal with maybe 1 archon and 1-2 cannons.
Very disappointed, Zai! So far you've gone in and just pwned everything each mission - this one you cheese through the back. Not even completing all mission objectives. Very disappointed.
@antilles58 I don't think it's cheesing. The mission is supposed to emphasize the strategic advantages of banshees, so going in where the defense is weak and taking out the detectors is a good strategy. It's extremely hard to mow down the final base because they have a good balance of anti-air and anti-ground, with templar to shred your units.
@awsomeking5 "Kills with cloaked banshees" also counts in structures, while "Enemy units killed" is kills, not including structures. As you can see, the achievement reads: Kill 75 enemy units or structures.
Disappointed that you cheesed man. I finished the mission this morning after quite a bit of raging. Used Banshee Wrath until I had to mix in some siege tanks to snipe high temps.
This mission is really really difficult. Don't feel bad about cheesing it because I honestly feel like this and Engine of Destruction are the two hardest missions in the game. The research money is also unimportant at this point. If you've been doing the bonus objectives on the earlier easier missions you should have more than enough to completely overhaul your forces along with buying all the mercs.
and by "I've came on psy's channel when this video first came up" I meant it had happened before, but I said "this video" on accident. I'm not illiterate =)
Zai... why do your videos become available like 3 days after they say they were uploaded? I've came on psy's channel when this video first came up and it says the mission was uploaded 2 or 3 days ago with like 100 views because it just became available to watch to everyone. What's causing that?
Huh. I've liked all of Zai's walk-throughs....except this one. You are a pro, Zai; let your videos show that. Avoid cheese, and eschew save-cuts in your videos. Show us the obvious way we've all missed, and that it don't need to be pretty to be complete.
@DayManNightMan1 Understood. The perils of video editing, etc. Defeats are cool too, in a Zai sorta way. Mostly I'm kinda like: "What? Zai can fail? Get out!" :)
I think Banshee/Viking works far better on this mission than Marine/Medic/Tank; reason being that you really don't have time to do a nice slow tank push, and because the last base is filled with both Colossi and HT who will storm the fuck out of your squishy bioballs. Vikings can rape all of the enemy air from afar as well as the Colossi, and the Banshees smash everything else.
Also, remember that you should chuck up autorefineries on all the little bases around, cos you'll be pretty gasheavy.
I would hit that, too. no doubt...with my bare hands formed to fists.
the mission was a bit sloppy. didn't get all research points...even though it's not hard to get them (esspecially due to the scan+mule trick I heard alot about recently in the comments. never tried (or needed) it though)
but I totally dislike the cheesy way of doing missions (and not collecting all research points)...why not taking it like a man?
mass banshees seem to work..but I still prefer my tank + mm =)
Hi Kai I want to say thanks for your efforts, but these last two videos have been substandard... you're making a lot of mistakes and you aren't planning out the video before you make it. I'm sure a lot of your viewers, like myself, haven't beaten it on brutal, and are watching to find a good way to win; not just a way to win. I'm just trying to offer some helpful criticism; I enjoy watching you do well on these mission and I've just been disappointed. Thank you and sry.
@HojoMD I understand what you're saying but really I don't think there is a good way to beat this mission. You get no time to mine and build units at each of your bases and the protoss attacks get much stronger including collosus and HT. I got to the last base but couldn't build enough to get to the vault, so I had to float my buildings and air units at the right edge of the map and let the fire kill the top-right base, then go in and get the vault at the last minute. Zai's way is better.
@PrinzDjamal On brutal? I guess that's possible but I didn't try it because I was too stuck on using MMM balls when going with a ground force. That didn't work for me for this mission due to a lack of time to train them and templars and collosus doing substantial damage. On brutal the flame moves so fast it feels like you never have time to train a good army.
i have know idead how i got through this mission but i know i finished it with all my buildings lifting off to the right side and killed the Shrine with 2 Phantoms lol that was everything i had back then xD
You don't need to destroy your own buildings for the achievement. Just don't lose any units to the fire. I'm not sure if lift-off capable buildings count.
Also, as stated by others before me, dropping mules is great for grabbing artifacts (and reaching the units in the first Char mission).
Finally, I'm looking forward to the next mission (escorting the Odin). It was by far the hardest one for me.
This mission isn't hard but very annoying by my standards, if you don't want to cheese rush it and you don't care about the banshee achievement, just throw down 2 extra barracks and go heavy marine medic, do not jump base to base, but just transfer directly to the most northern base before the artifact, that will give you plenty of time to prepare for the push, it's an easy location to defend and there are a lot of minerals there, after that just push out when ready
Weak. Why would you cheese it; it isn't even that hard to do the mission normally. Just don't let your fucking barracks die retardedly and get some vikings once you take over the first Tal'darim base. Then spread out your stuff once you take on the last one to avoid getting stormed.
@LordDragons300 don't do it after the fire. do it right before the fire. the mule will grab the artefact just before it's killed by the protecting protoss.
@OriginalAtomicSheep Zai's walkthrough usually assumes you did the toss missions as soon as they were available, got the orbital command tech, and now use mules for relic call-ins, etc.
Just did this campain with 20 Banshees. So it's absolutley doable with 25. I even had 2 laying in the base. Hope it helps!
MrOscar91an 1 day ago
Just coming in to say that the Banshee Backdoor strategy DOES WORK. I literally just did it. You gotta have a ton of banshees to where you can one-shot the photon cannons and don't stop moving 'till you get to your prize! Seriously though, like 20 or more banshees.
Wharneed 4 days ago
so u love nova =/
specters5 1 week ago
i tried this without the tech reactor and extracts that collect gas themselves... impossiburu
Iamnoguitarist 1 month ago
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IslerWhitehurst422 1 month ago
fuck this mission is so god damn hard.
Ryannsays 1 month ago
this video needs to be removed this strategy WILL NOT WORK
naraku578 2 months ago
Any walkthrough without being cheap?
caesarthefifth 2 months ago
I think that best strategy is with thors, you upgrade them with IMMORTALITY PROTOCOL and you can destroy them very easy.
StarcraftIsBest 3 months ago
Another way to get those relics without wasting time is to save up energy in your orbital, know where they are, scan and drop a mule next to it. Since this mission doesn't really require too much mining it's pretty easy credits =]
aphan97 3 months ago 7
This strat does not work if you dont have Auto Reactors or Automated Refinery at all. Not saying he's dumb or anything, just wont work unless you have those
GodsmackFTW 3 months ago
There's a shit-ton of obs in the last base you get to before the final push. Might want to save a scan or the HT push you can get might make you pretty sour about life when your banshees get double-stormed.
rumbidzai 3 months ago
What achievement was he talking about when he said destroying ur own refineries?
LankanCasanova 4 months ago
I am a dumb ass.....Who killed him at the start?
richard2mitchell 4 months ago in playlist More videos from PsyStarcraft
@richard2mitchell
Nova. You can see her after Tosh dies :)
TheMegaFailer 4 months ago
@TheMegaFailer Yea see this is where my dumbass comes in......wasnt she in the tv? like on a nother ship?
richard2mitchell 4 months ago
@richard2mitchell
Well, I think that as a ghost, she can use some psionic abilities, like cloak and perhaps some kind of teleport.
Or she just kinda like docked in the ship. The possibilities are endless. Anyway, Tosh died :( and Nova was behind it.
TheMegaFailer 4 months ago
@TheMegaFailer Yea i was thinking she used her mind but that is one hell of a brain lol.
richard2mitchell 4 months ago
It works quite easily, just get 25 banshees like he does (via turteling a bit after you get your 3rd base (destroyed third base) and just follow and kill what he does and you will have no problems what-so-ever...oh and save alot just in case ;)
Lezmonify 5 months ago
finally beat it following what somebody else here said. I ddin't have tech reacs at this point, i needed one more protoss research but what i did was make as many banshees as i could with some science vessels and flew south east...taking some time to wipe out the little bases in my way...stayed to the far lower right till the flames were right about to touch the artifact then i went with my 21 banshees and destroyed it quick.
Soccercrazyigboman 6 months ago
can you beat this w/o the dbl reactor?
Soccercrazyigboman 6 months ago
Nice intro dude! Xd
Colamus 7 months ago
I just beat this using 4 Science Vessels, 12 Banshees and 8 Vikings... Worked like a charm.
Once you have that composition you can just go and rush in over the top like Zai did in this Video.
Alluminati 7 months ago
It was perfect, man!
After trying for 5 times, finally I got finish this mission. In only 10 minutes!
JackDanihell 7 months ago
Hi, Psy.
-Vultureling
EbonRat 7 months ago
i feel like the easist way to do this is still with siege breaker + upgraded marines and slowly leap frog. But i goto say the backdoor works but its not always 100% working.
edriclin 8 months ago 2
@edriclin Thank you one of the easiest mission if done this way
gundam0051 6 months ago
I tried "backdooring it" And it doesn't work at all. I had about 15-16 banshees, fucked everything in my path, than hit all the cannons yet the phoenexis and other AA flyers destroyed me. I have to agree with VerrySuave on this one, they definetly have observers or something
SuperDouchebag12345 8 months ago
better have protoss research done when doing this
escobari 8 months ago
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inspectorchao2 8 months ago
THX so so so so so so so so much backdooring FTW!!! u just need to mass lots and lots of banshees like psy did
zimmer672 9 months ago
Tosh was the right choice, but I guess girls'll do that to ya
SedateSociety 9 months ago
@SedateSociety Cheaper to go with ghosts. So you don't have to buy Psionic Lash, and mass snipe Kerrigan for free!
NewVenari 8 months ago
To any1 who wants the 4th protoss research, do exactly what Zai did, except instead of going the top left way, go the bottom right way. And bring 1 viking along. When you fly over the 4th research, land the viking and viola, go and backdoor :D
eric0095 9 months ago
@eric0095 there's a templar protecting the last research. Much easier to scan it and drop a mule on it. It takes like 2 seconds of micro and you're done. Best to wait until just before you push in for the final assault, since earlier you're gonna want to use your energy for mineral harvesting.
chinareds54 9 months ago
FUCK THIS STUPID SHITTY MISSION! FUCK IT! FFS WITHOUT FUCKING TECHREACTOR AND AUTOREFINERY YOU CANT TO THIS FUCK ITFWGIUAEEdasfgfgeewcldas FUCK ! IM NOT PLAYING THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AGAIN FOR THIS FUCKING STUPID SHITTY MISSION FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
DieKao 9 months ago 2
@DieKao lolol?
poopfartpenis 9 months ago
I just beat this game with only 6 banhees, several marines, marauder, medics ( I only have 50 land units) and the globe thingy. It is really easy especially with that globe thingy help spot which unit is fake when they make clones
prideric2 9 months ago
I fucking hate this mission, its the biggest pile of shit ever.. I just cannot do it, fucking hate it.
Evilbones76 10 months ago
This mission is fucking impossible with no tech reactor and with no auto gas bull shit
God430 10 months ago
@God430 auto-gas isn't bullshit, if you took the other option you're an idiot and make a second tech labbed starport....
PressXtonotdie 9 months ago
@PressXtonotdie dude i bought that fucking perk about 9 months ago when i didnt know anyone thing about Starcraft 2 or anything about RTS games but thanks for being an asshole over the internet...you must be so superior to everyone you meet
God430 9 months ago
@God430 And yet you made the comment a week ago.
PressXtonotdie 9 months ago
@PressXtonotdie ever head of save ???
God430 9 months ago
I HATE THIS MISSION! although zai is op I think after the patch this strat dosen't seem to work after 4 tries I figured it out. I collected all the protoss researches with dropping M.U.L.E.S. I moved along the bottom of map with my base soaking up the patches and not engaging any protoss bases using 1 detector(raven)banshees and 4vikings. After theres no resources left, move to far bottom right and wait for fire to burn everything out and to start burning the temple. and move up and snipe it
RGTGAME 10 months ago
@RGTGAME patching doesn't effect the campaign. Ghosts still cost the old price, phoenixes cant shoot while moving; etc.
PressXtonotdie 9 months ago
Yeah they have ObServer and in this Video ObServer is not present. After a lot of Sentry and Immortal Colossi continue to attack you and in this Video i not see this. And at end i found they have Prisma and not Pilons + ObServer in the bottom base.
Is not the first time I see th thing more different from Brutal 1.3.1 and Zai Brutal Video, also in another mission (Haven Fall) in all games never see they attack from South when i have Played they attack me with 4 times major force.
ZeratulShakuras 10 months ago
what the fuck did i miss? 1 research point away from tech reactor and i cant macro fast enough to get the ammount of banshes i need :| wtf.....
GSBConstantine 11 months ago
@GSBConstantine
same happened to me, i guess you did this mission where you get the vikings "wrong", what means you got the zerg research.
1c3crE4m1337 11 months ago
@GSBConstantine
Go back and do some of the old missions to get the one toss tech you need
JextiveN 10 months ago
@GSBConstantine He went with Selendis, that's 3 toss points
Anonie324 9 months ago
@GSBConstantine You can take down the artifact vault at the end with like four banshees. I didn't have a tech reactor either yet on my brutal run (I'm saving the Haven mission for the end because it's so much fun having Hanson on board. The 1st time through on Hard I kept doing her missions cuz of some chivalrous "always save the girl" junk, which made "Safe Haven" freakin hard, and then she was gone from the ship like 10 missions in). I think just making a second starport should be enough.
chinareds54 9 months ago
thanks very helpful! :)
julianlemke 1 year ago
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Dude, I DID exactly that!! Somehow the swines can still detect me ... I finally did finish it but only because I came with enough Banshees and although they were swatting me from the sky, I just had enough to do it!
VerrrySuave 1 year ago
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VerrrySuave 1 year ago
Backdooring at the end where Psy does it no longer works. I think they have observers now since patch 1.2.2 (or whatever). Tried it like 5,000,000 times, same result ... ANNIHILATION!
VerrrySuave 1 year ago 7
@VerrrySuave I just did it this way, just shoot down the cannons when trying to "sneak" past, and have enough banshees.
choklanka 1 year ago
@VerrrySuave i can still do it =o, just have to micro back and forth as the scouts and phoenix do the same.
runesapien 8 months ago
@VerrrySuave
It still works.... dodge the storms, kill the last three or four cannons and keep your banshees as far to the top as you can.
and watch out the're some Doodads we're the banshees are being stuck sometimes....
i did it with save/load .. worked at the 4th try for me... but i lost almost all buildings to the fire wave... had about 15-20 banshees
DisasterEqualPeace 8 months ago
@VerrrySuave I just did it. You need around 16-18 banshees.
nainex52 7 months ago
@VerrrySuave thats funny because i just did it.
Riffcal 1 month ago
@Riffcal yeah but not on brutal.. it does not work on brutal
TAAFisHandsome 1 month ago
@TAAFisHandsome Funnily enough i did it on brutal, so it does.
Riffcal 1 month ago
@VerrrySuave no you can still do it. I know the part you are talking about. You are barely in the range of a scout. If you move to the right spot behind it they cant hit you.
BgBuckinChickn 1 month ago
@VerrrySuave Just did it, worked
MartialShot 1 week ago
tosh is fucking awesome
Kaito133 1 year ago
holy shit zai you are god.
iloverikku714 1 year ago
fuck nova, tosh my bro
XxMalarkixX 1 year ago
I liked Tosh =/
iiH3R3T1C 1 year ago 2
i had such a hard time on this mission. i finaly did a cheese rush. it took forever. XO
GermanSniperBayArea 1 year ago
Disappointed in this cast.
TheTumba1 1 year ago 2
how come banshees can attack the top of the colossus and so can Vikings ?
Arkains10 1 year ago
@Arkains10 colossi count as both, air and ground because they re so big. so the can be attacked by anti-air units and normal units, that shoot ground
peffiSC2source 1 year ago
@peffiSC2source yes but they both attack the same part of the colossi.... so basically it would make sense if the banshees could only shoot the legs... but they also shoot the top of the colossi just like the vikings ,which makesn o sense.
Arkains10 1 year ago
@Arkains10 dude its a game xD why bother with that if what the games makes so good, the balance, is getting better and better. maybe you could axplain it with this: they both attack the head because you cant miss it. attacking the legs is too hard to aim for etc^^
peffiSC2source 1 year ago
Nice vid. SC2 is just like poker, don't you think? checkout my channel to see how apm can get you mad monies playin poker :D
Fubusama 1 year ago
@Fubusama no it isnt
luckycandy101 1 year ago
i chose tosh, cuz jamacian dudes are badass
jamquackers 1 year ago
lol i love zais scream he does every mission
thybeaster 1 year ago
Easiest way to beat this map: fly your banshees and buildings all the way to the right edge of the map (busting your way through the small protoss bases and building banshees along the way). Then wait until the wall of fire is just about to reach the artifact before attacking it. That way most of the protoss forces (especially those pesky storming HTs) are dead to the wall of fire and you only have to deal with maybe 1 archon and 1-2 cannons.
alcapwned86 1 year ago
@alcapwned86
how many banshees did you make?
Soccercrazyigboman 6 months ago
everytime I look at Zai's Walkthrough.. it looks like a LOLthrough ^^
Kaiho666 1 year ago
zai is the em effing greatest
dcourtn1 1 year ago
Where is the 4th research point? :(
DrBigDub 1 year ago
@DrBigDub lower right
Caesar512 1 year ago
no offense but i like your last 18 video way better. This one skips a bit in places that's all.
reallycrazydave 1 year ago
7:36. "AHH!"
LOLOLOLOL
alexlluong 1 year ago
I don't watch your vids for you to start backdooring. :P
Please do missions the normal way, thank you.
ycfeatbn 1 year ago
THANK YOU FOR NOT CHEESING!!
jimmmyz169 1 year ago
Very disappointed, Zai! So far you've gone in and just pwned everything each mission - this one you cheese through the back. Not even completing all mission objectives. Very disappointed.
antilles58 1 year ago
@antilles58 I don't think it's cheesing. The mission is supposed to emphasize the strategic advantages of banshees, so going in where the defense is weak and taking out the detectors is a good strategy. It's extremely hard to mow down the final base because they have a good balance of anti-air and anti-ground, with templar to shred your units.
chinareds54 9 months ago
@TDBhCorsica zai is psy's brother
draphin8 1 year ago
is PsY and Zai same person or what?
TDBhCorsica 1 year ago
so how do you get the one where you dont lose any structure?
gmanthebeast1 1 year ago
@gmanthebeast1 you just have to lose no UNITS
NoxieDC 1 year ago
@NoxieDC I swore I did it last night and they didnt give me credit!rrrrr
gmanthebeast1 1 year ago
You forgot an artifact.
MrMissingno 1 year ago
congrats on beating psy at ping pong! <3
Timthemidgetdude 1 year ago 2
did anyone else notice, that the units killed was 99 but units killed with banshess was 100
awsomeking5 1 year ago 15
@awsomeking5 "Kills with cloaked banshees" also counts in structures, while "Enemy units killed" is kills, not including structures. As you can see, the achievement reads: Kill 75 enemy units or structures.
hineighbor 1 year ago
@awsomeking5 buildings are a "kill" for the banshees(100 kills-, but it doesnt count as a unit (99 units killed)
cecool4 8 months ago
@cecool4 You do realize that comment was 6 months ago right?
awsomeking5 8 months ago
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@awsomeking5 buildings are a "kill" for the banshees(100 kills), but it doesnt count as a unit (99 units killed)
cecool4 8 months ago
@awsomeking5 he killed one of his own units :3
no, kidding
CronosDage 7 months ago
wait... Zai, what race do you play when not playing the campaign?
RootzofEvil 1 year ago 2
Disappointed that you cheesed man. I finished the mission this morning after quite a bit of raging. Used Banshee Wrath until I had to mix in some siege tanks to snipe high temps.
Bananasword2010 1 year ago
I finished the brutal now. It's overated not very hard
animerulezftw 1 year ago
gay ppl wouldnt hit that
EliGUnit 1 year ago
This mission is really really difficult. Don't feel bad about cheesing it because I honestly feel like this and Engine of Destruction are the two hardest missions in the game. The research money is also unimportant at this point. If you've been doing the bonus objectives on the earlier easier missions you should have more than enough to completely overhaul your forces along with buying all the mercs.
Irennicus 1 year ago
and by "I've came" I mean
I have came
petrocksemen 1 year ago
and by "I've came on psy's channel when this video first came up" I meant it had happened before, but I said "this video" on accident. I'm not illiterate =)
petrocksemen 1 year ago
Zai... why do your videos become available like 3 days after they say they were uploaded? I've came on psy's channel when this video first came up and it says the mission was uploaded 2 or 3 days ago with like 100 views because it just became available to watch to everyone. What's causing that?
petrocksemen 1 year ago
Lol i did the same strat :D
RabidChocobo 1 year ago
"screw cheesing" you know he tried it and fucked it up rofl
Mralec007 1 year ago 2
0:20 She might hit back, so... No, I wouldn't!
BlackwingDrake 1 year ago
my least favorite walkthrough done you zai sorry man do it one take no cheese plz plz plz plz
JadeBrady05 1 year ago 2
Huh. I've liked all of Zai's walk-throughs....except this one. You are a pro, Zai; let your videos show that. Avoid cheese, and eschew save-cuts in your videos. Show us the obvious way we've all missed, and that it don't need to be pretty to be complete.
fredochs 1 year ago 2
@fredochs I intended showing my defeats as well, but I crashed fraps twice going to windows mode so the save/loads were ugly as hell.
DayManNightMan1 1 year ago
@DayManNightMan1 Understood. The perils of video editing, etc. Defeats are cool too, in a Zai sorta way. Mostly I'm kinda like: "What? Zai can fail? Get out!" :)
fredochs 1 year ago
I think Banshee/Viking works far better on this mission than Marine/Medic/Tank; reason being that you really don't have time to do a nice slow tank push, and because the last base is filled with both Colossi and HT who will storm the fuck out of your squishy bioballs. Vikings can rape all of the enemy air from afar as well as the Colossi, and the Banshees smash everything else.
Also, remember that you should chuck up autorefineries on all the little bases around, cos you'll be pretty gasheavy.
TheArchmage44 1 year ago
this lvl is so hard!
eventually i went around the back of the last base and focused the artifact :D
DUFMAN123 1 year ago
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I would hit that, too. no doubt...with my bare hands formed to fists.
the mission was a bit sloppy. didn't get all research points...even though it's not hard to get them (esspecially due to the scan+mule trick I heard alot about recently in the comments. never tried (or needed) it though)
but I totally dislike the cheesy way of doing missions (and not collecting all research points)...why not taking it like a man?
mass banshees seem to work..but I still prefer my tank + mm =)
PrinzDjamal 1 year ago
Hi Kai I want to say thanks for your efforts, but these last two videos have been substandard... you're making a lot of mistakes and you aren't planning out the video before you make it. I'm sure a lot of your viewers, like myself, haven't beaten it on brutal, and are watching to find a good way to win; not just a way to win. I'm just trying to offer some helpful criticism; I enjoy watching you do well on these mission and I've just been disappointed. Thank you and sry.
HojoMD 1 year ago
@HojoMD his name is zai...
HUMANHUNTER911 1 year ago 2
@HojoMD I understand what you're saying but really I don't think there is a good way to beat this mission. You get no time to mine and build units at each of your bases and the protoss attacks get much stronger including collosus and HT. I got to the last base but couldn't build enough to get to the vault, so I had to float my buildings and air units at the right edge of the map and let the fire kill the top-right base, then go in and get the vault at the last minute. Zai's way is better.
myrmecophilous 1 year ago
@myrmecophilous
this mission is insanly easy...just get a crapload of tanks + marine medics...but you don't really need that many mm.
that way you get all relics and ofc beat the mission with no problems. (take the middle/lower path to the last protoss base)
I think I had like 20 tanks and probably the same amount of marines.
somewhere through the mission I forgot my initial banshees and they died a fiery death. so that's how important they are for the mission =)
PrinzDjamal 1 year ago
@PrinzDjamal On brutal? I guess that's possible but I didn't try it because I was too stuck on using MMM balls when going with a ground force. That didn't work for me for this mission due to a lack of time to train them and templars and collosus doing substantial damage. On brutal the flame moves so fast it feels like you never have time to train a good army.
myrmecophilous 1 year ago
@myrmecophilous
yes on brutal =)
btw: I only had 1 racks and 1 factory
lifting them off and rebuilding the tech reactors. (+ dmg upgrades for the tanks )
had to rebuild the armories though.
and yes..templars are a pain the arse on brutal. they hit pretty precisely. and even dodging.
had to reload the "Welcome to the Jungle" mission once because I attacked senselessly the main base and I underestimated the storms.
PrinzDjamal 1 year ago
@myrmecophilous
PS: you get enough time to mine out every base you get to. (4-5 bases in total I guess) that means you have enough ressources as well.
enough time to get enough troops
and due to mass tanks you can defend without any troubles at all and be offensive as well
PrinzDjamal 1 year ago
@HojoMD I agree with you!!!
rambler1234567 1 year ago
@HojoMD hes never planned out and always been half-assed lol
ahnilator123 1 year ago
:| this mission was terrible.. i mean you did terribly :D these recaps and so.. :| this is not really a good walktrough. :| sry.
haxorkecie 1 year ago
Tosh is Haitan.
thomaslarssomn 1 year ago
i have know idead how i got through this mission but i know i finished it with all my buildings lifting off to the right side and killed the Shrine with 2 Phantoms lol that was everything i had back then xD
Drachenfurie 1 year ago
can you get the 4th relic by scanning and dropping a mule?
TheOlicea 1 year ago
@TheOlicea yes! its the easiest way.
radscorpion8 1 year ago
i feel like everyone has wanted to do kerrigan at one point in time.. and if you didnt, its probably because you wanted raynor :s
LoneAidenPryde 1 year ago
To bad you didn't get the 4th relic.
michelmeijerink 1 year ago
You don't need to destroy your own buildings for the achievement. Just don't lose any units to the fire. I'm not sure if lift-off capable buildings count.
Also, as stated by others before me, dropping mules is great for grabbing artifacts (and reaching the units in the first Char mission).
Finally, I'm looking forward to the next mission (escorting the Odin). It was by far the hardest one for me.
Retales 1 year ago
This mission isn't hard but very annoying by my standards, if you don't want to cheese rush it and you don't care about the banshee achievement, just throw down 2 extra barracks and go heavy marine medic, do not jump base to base, but just transfer directly to the most northern base before the artifact, that will give you plenty of time to prepare for the push, it's an easy location to defend and there are a lot of minerals there, after that just push out when ready
mstura 1 year ago
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NikeWK 1 year ago
just get the 25 banshees and then use a scan and mule to get the last relic.
you can save if you miss with your scan, its somewhere to the right down corner
Llamaestro 1 year ago 3
LOL @ matts face after tosh gets owned
verdibahnsen 1 year ago
Weak. Why would you cheese it; it isn't even that hard to do the mission normally. Just don't let your fucking barracks die retardedly and get some vikings once you take over the first Tal'darim base. Then spread out your stuff once you take on the last one to avoid getting stormed.
TheArchmage44 1 year ago
Why don't these missions appear in my subscription box?
I always see ZAI's videos a day late :(
noneedforid 1 year ago 3
bros before hoes
SilverShieldLegion 1 year ago 98
@SilverShieldLegion Actually hoes before bros.
43763248967029357432 1 year ago
THIS DIDN'T COME UP IN MY SUBSCRIPTIONS! D:
str8outtahillsbrad 1 year ago
to get the artefacts (protoss research) just scan and send a mule directly to the artefact.
rbienz 1 year ago 181
@rbienz problem using that method is that the mule counts as a unit and it'll die if u send it after the fire =/
LordDragons300 1 year ago
@LordDragons300 don't do it after the fire. do it right before the fire. the mule will grab the artefact just before it's killed by the protecting protoss.
rbienz 1 year ago
@rbienz I did an SCV drop in a med vac, your way much easier
bluefish001 1 year ago
@rbienz expensive
Youcansuckme69 1 year ago
@rbienz im sad now i was gonna post the same thing thinking im all bamf for figuring that out on my own and you already posted it -.-;;
BlackwingsandPKMNftw 1 year ago
@rbienz Nice ! Thanks man !
MFalcon93 1 year ago
@rbienz thx
psychoroxx 1 year ago
The 4th artifact is in the bottom right hand corner of the map, just scan there.
L3AV3R2000 1 year ago
@rbienz thats if u have the orbital command upgrade
OriginalAtomicSheep 11 months ago
@OriginalAtomicSheep Zai's walkthrough usually assumes you did the toss missions as soon as they were available, got the orbital command tech, and now use mules for relic call-ins, etc.
dniceo7 10 months ago
Another way to do this mission is to let the fire wall kill off half the last Protoss base, then go kill the vault.
nr1771 1 year ago
200 food is necessary to do this
Imagine building supply depots, then losing them all. And then u have to make more. But more than you had before because your army will grow.
napalmcannon 1 year ago
hell yeah i would hit that..
arcwiz318 1 year ago
The 2nd research is to the right, under the last protoss base, i think you can just call down a mule on it.
oh and thanks for the walkthrough, love you and Psy.
Luvs2SPWG17 1 year ago
@Luvs2SPWG17
lol damn the 4th and last -.-
Luvs2SPWG17 1 year ago
@Luvs2SPWG17 Thank you! Worked perfectly. Dropped a scan right on it. South of the last base and muley got er for me!!!
TheTumba1 1 year ago
I approve with siding with blonde Kerrigan
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