Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - Part 1 (Badass Introduction)

[200elmejor]

Carlitonsp1 its only 1 part? to download it

[Carlitonsp1]

@200elmejor

Yes, that's the only way the file sizes are manageable.

[200elmejor]

@Carlitonsp1 ok ty 4 respond

[killernarwhal117]

If only GRAY FOX!,didn't die and was in this

[mrsanandreas123]

yo carlitonsp1 how do u save your progress i try it but it don't work every time otacon says u wann save i press save and he says see u later snake and it don't save and i keep losin' progress!!!!! plz help!!!

[goanyways]

@mrsanandreas123 press circle not x

[mrsanandreas123]

how do u throw enemies and how 2 grab them?

[mrsanandreas123]

iz dis metal gear solid 2 sons of liberty for ps2?

[mrsanandreas123]

when it cums 2 da main menu i select new game and it just cums back t da same menu plz help and reply

[anitashs]

BEST...INTROMUSIC...EVA!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!

[boffyroxfan1]

Bad ass is right, im not sure what was better the vid part or the music.

[VolvagiaFreak]

Hello I am FelipeFlower and I am here today to catch a predator.

[aayaz26]

what is the diference between substance and sons of liberty??

[MrJeeeZum]

So Substance is the expanded version of sons of liberty?

[FilipinoGamer1234]

Thank you for not putting any irritating commentaries. :)

[aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa]

first step on ''how to NOT make a intro to a videogame/movie'':

dont show clips from the game. it spoils everything except the story

[yoitsdomka]

Okay...how weird is that I started the game (yesterday, on normal) and I had no Tank chapter? No, seriously, it went straight to Plant and Raiden, I wouldn't even know that there was that previous part if I didn't see it while looking up some weapon locations x__X How is that possible?

[Dytoris]

@yoitsdomka Did you play it on easy, and was it the first time?

[yoitsdomka]

@Dytoris I did play for the first time (btw, also the first MGS game ever), but I chose normal difficulty.

[4297676]

Carliton, your vids are so awesome! Have you stopped making them? You're my favourite playthrough guy :D. Please don't quit :(

[Carlitonsp1]

@4297676

There's a couple of reasons why I stopped:

I kind of got bored with the process, and I hated that my most watched material is not only done much better by other guys who do a much better job (AdamSpencer87) but also that my most popular work are my absolute worst. I wanted to get back into reviewing, and I like the overall challenge of it.

Not only that, but there's aren't too many other games I'm interested in LP'ing.

[SamPD2]

@Carlitonsp1 Find something else to do then.

Follow in the AngryAussie's example.

[badkevdale]

@Carlitonsp1 suppose i want battle gear solid 2 but i also want tekken 5 what should i get

[GeneralZigbar113]

@badkevdale the hell is battle gear solid?

[gta440]

@Carlitonsp1 I HEAR YOU ON THAT ONE BRO THEIR ARENT TO MANY GAME I PAY ATTENTION TO EITHER !!!!

I DOUBT THEIR WILL EVER BE A GAME LIKE MGS!!!!!

[JudasAngel666]

MGS 3 will always be my favorite but this is a close second and then four.

[Pufinated]

SNAKE USED THE STEALTH ONLY FOR HIMSELF! He didnt let US TRY!

[viper2077]

MGS 1234 r sooooo cool!!!

[Miepieish]

This game...is THE BEST. I beat in like 3-4 days...I actually cried at the end :I

I chose the normal option...don't remember if it actually said normal or not.

[MrgnUTube]

We can see the code of an C++ fileCopy function in this video XD

[TheChromaticEnt1]

it bringz back memories :)

[PolakexCharizard]

LOL European Extreme

[XxXVladx]

dude do u still have the install from the game?:D

[TheThroney]

it bugs the shit out of me that people hate raiden so much.. like wtf is there to hate? because his voice isnt as cool as snakes? the story in this game is freaking awesome and its fun as hell to play. thats all that matters really.

[DRIZZAT1]

@TheThroney the reason for people hateing ridan so much is because Snake has been in the series alot longer than raiden so it came as a suprize to everyone thats all. but it doesn't bother me all that much. I just find that it continues the storyline :)

[RoyalDarkness107]

ya know at first I thought that Otacon got a hair cut but apparently not

[kirahojo101]

is metal gear solid 2 Son of liberty and Substence the same?

[TheThroney]

@kirahojo101 you probably know by now.. but its the same game just upgraded to multiplatform and has some more stuff it didnt have originally.. like vr missions.. and different interface additons its worth it to get substance instead of the original. although ive only got the original, which is fine by me.

[kirahojo101]

@TheThroney thanks for explaining that :)

[kirahojo101]

is metal gear solid 2 Son of liberty nad Substence the same?

[FlaccidSunday]

This could've been a great game...Idk why they had to ruin it by introducing Raiden to the series.

[Puferu]

i was about to go to part 2 cause i tought: the first one is usually just cutscenes..

and, at the exact moment i clicked part 2 the codec appeared ( which means the cutscene is done, cause they always do a codec at the end of a cutscene lol)

[Puferu]

lol its Brawl Snake xD

[ultimatesaged]

I Love MGS series. I've only played part 1 & 2, only beaten 2, the part 1 with the soldiers at the end is such a bitch

[ValforWing]

great if face book and myspace get into metal gear wars i don't want to see it....because then the metal gear twitter will come out of no where!

[MisterBankz]

Hands down the most badass MGS intro 

[Edwin8400]

christopher randolph .... he does hueys voice in mgs peace walker

[FlyingAlchemist]

8:36- LET'S SEE HOW YAHOO LIKES THIS UP THEIR ASS!!!

[Mario97Man]

i can play this song on my piano =)

[sparocazzate]

very god ahahah! xd

[EddieGandChrisB]

I love how the intro to this game makes it seem like a movie

[EddieGandChrisB]

are you going to do one of Metal Gear Solid 4 that is like on of my favorites but my most favorite is Metal Gear Solid 3

[filipeflower]

Good news for me, Carlitonsp. I just recently bought 'Metal Gear Solid 2: SUBSTANCE' on the flea market. It only costed 10 €uros. I really believe it was worth buying this game, because this is the last game of the Metal Gear series with V.R Trainning included.

[Carlitonsp1]

I wasn't a big fan of the VR Training, although some of the missions are kind of cool, it could feel really cheap and repetitive.

[filipeflower]

Repetitive yes, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I also discovered that you can actually make the Item Menu and the Weapon Menu "linear", just like in the original M.G.S game.

[Carlitonsp1]

I didn't say it was bad, just that I wasn't a fan.

I'm not a fan of the original Metal Gear Solid, but I think it's still very good.

[filipeflower]

You don't need to be a fan to like some V.R Training. Currently, there are only four Metal Gear games with V.R Training:

- 'Metal Gear Solid'

- 'Metal Gear Solid INTEGRAL' (the 'VR Disc')

- 'Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance'

- 'Metal Gear: Ghost Babel' Even if you don't like the original 'Metal Gear Solid', it's still considered one of the greatest classics for the PSOne console, just like Final Fantasy VII.

[Carlitonsp1]

I still need to play that one as well, though from what I've heard, it's only 'Amazing' if you've never played any of the previous games, because most people who I've talked to say it's a small downgrade in Gameplay from Final Fantasy 6.

Though they all seem to agree that it's way better than Final Fantasy 8, which I am not looking forward to playing.

[ultimatesaged]

The plot WAS confusing though.. But still good :D

[AFROkid131]

@filipeflower ur a nerd dis game is good i mean really good but u go over da top

[AFROkid131]

@filipeflower ur a nerd dis game is good i mean really good but u go over da top give the guy a break

[filipeflower]

What the hell are you talking about, man ?

[TheMarvel00]

@filipeflower there is a vr expiriance in mgs4

[filipeflower]

Really ? Where ?

[TheMarvel00]

@filipeflower it doesnt have indivual missions its more of a training ground for people that want to practice cqc and firing ;)

[filipeflower]

But where ?

[TheMarvel00]

@filipeflower after you beat the game in the main menu it say virual range VR

[filipeflower]

After you beat the game how many times ?

[TheMarvel00]

@filipeflower once

[BangingMash]

filipeflower is on every single fucking MGS video on Youtube, does he have a life?!

[filipeflower]

If I didn't have a life, I wouldn't be here.

[BangingMash]

You know what I mean, do you do ANYTHING besides comment on every MGS vid on Youtube?!

[filipeflower]

Yeah, I do. I go to my illustration class, but that's none of your business.

[BangingMash]

Hell I could say a bunch of things, but I'm not an internet troll, I was just curious cos every MGS vid I been on, you're there in the comment section.

[HankJKennyton]

Have you ever tried walking to the beat of the main menu? Also, isn't Snake wearing the ribbon he and Meryl found on the snowmobile, I think he tied it on the bandana that had an extremely unusual amount of extra cloth hanging down from it. Did Snake get his bandanna from Big Boss?

[filipeflower]

HankJKennyton, who told you that the Bandana was found in the snowmobile ?

[HankJKennyton]

Not the bandana, the ribbon tied on the end of the bandana. No bandana has that much extra cloth hanging down. He got the bandana from Big Boss.

[filipeflower]

That's your theory.

[HankJKennyton]

Don't you get a bandana from beating Metal Gear? Big Boss wears the same bandana in MGS3. And Snake's bandana is longer in MGS2 than in MGS1. Infact, in MGS1 you cant even see any extra cloth hanging down from Snake's bandana.

[filipeflower]

You only obtain the infinite ammo bandana, if you choose the "Meryl Ending" (by resisting Ocelot's torture without submition). But if you choose the "Otacon Ending", you'll receive a Stealth Camoouflage device instead. And the reason you don't see any "extra clothing" hanging down from Snake's bandana is because the PSOne's graphical capacity couldn't handle that. Also, 'Metal Gear Solid 3' didn't exist when the first 'Metal Gear Solid' game was released.

[HankJKennyton]

No, not in MGS, in Metal Gear, the original when you kill Big Boss you get a bandana when you beat the game. In MGS3, soon to be Big Boss wears the bandana. Which probably means Snake takes the bandana as a keepsake after defeating Big Boss, since Big Boss always wore it in battle. Also in MGS4, Meryl's wearing, what appears to be the ribbon found at the end of MGS1.

[filipeflower]

Oh, you meant the original 'Metal Gear' game, not 'Metal Gear Solid'. OKay, sorry about that oversight. What version of 'Metal Gear' have you been playing? The very original MSX2 game or the emulated version on 'Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence'? Because the "infinite ammo bandana" didn't exist in the very original MSX2 'Metal Gear'. That was something added in the re-released version. Also, the bandana that Meryl's wears is a refference to her "counterpart" in 'POLICENAUTS', an old game.

[HankJKennyton]

I saw niether, it was the recreated fan version, don't know what system. But I think Kojima meant to tell us the origin of the bandana in MGS3.

You know too much, you'll have to die.

Where did the damn ribbon go?!

[filipeflower]

"Re-created fan version"? What is that? Can you give me a link (via-private message) to that video? Also, I don't think Hideo Kojima stated the "origin of the bandana" in the game. Nothing in the game states that, I think.

That's harsh.

I already explainned that part.

[HankJKennyton]

Oh sorry, I saw the infinite ammo bandana in MG2. And it was the fan made version. But my theory still makes sense.

[filipeflower]

When you say 'M.G 2', do you mean 'Metal Gear Solid 2' or 'Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake'? And what do you mean by "fan made version" ? Even if your theory "makes sense", it's still a fan-made theory.

[HankJKennyton]

BTW, Don't hate on filipeflower. He's just like all of us. He likes MGS.

[shadybrain3424]

wow, you went normal on this one. I thought you would have done extreme again.

I thought extreme was pretty hard, I only got to fatman on extreme I could never diffuse the bombs in enough time.

[TheNonfat]

... and i thought u didn't play it .. :P

[zcruzen]

At 1:53 So Toyota. LOL

[noex100]

4:47-This image reminds me of Snake in the beginning of MGS4.

[noex100]

My Game Ratings:

MGS1-8/10

MGS2-8/10

MGS3-9.5/10

MGS4-Never played

P.S.-MGS2 has such issues with Rai- OMG what am I saying. That idiot is such a fucker that it'd be disrespectful to even say his name! What a fucking retard R***** is.

LOL

[Sunburn190]

Ok, I just got MGS4 and I want either this game or MGS, which one should I get? I'd get the Essessential collection, but I can't find it at EBgames.

[S1CKSHOT37]

AMAIZNG GAME 9/10

[grashbar]

6:29 - Hey. he survived 2 rounds of torture in the last game. with 3 electrocuting in each round. so he should manage to handle some minor electricity.

[weaponx111]

i just beat the fist one it was 2 rounds of 4 ^_^

[CDTheHedgehog]

Yes, finally a good awesome playthrough of this game. god all of the other ones I have tried either had bad quality, no gameplay, or commentary.

[HankJKennyton]

You can also try the MGS2 substance longplay so you don't have to switch videos. Each video is like 2-3 hours long. I like caliton's commentary though.

[shagohod666]

first id like to say thank you for making these walkthroughs (all of the MGS walkthroughs) and second i would like to say thank you for not talking during the cut-scenes unlikes some of these other ppl that think its cool to talk during that time im giving you a 5/5 on all of these that i watch, which is gonna be all of them eventually cause im making a playlist on there lol.

[RileyRichardz]

I agree with the description. fillepeflower needs to give it a rest.

[filipeflower]

It's easy for you to say that. Also, both you and Carlitonsp spelled my username wrong.

[sanjay7028]

how do u record you games

[Carlitonsp1]

An XTV 2.0

[sanjay7028]

how do u get the same quility of ur tv videos on utube what do u use dont mind asking plz

[iggy1986]

it goes metal gear solid snake eater metal gear solid portable ops metal gear portable ops plus metal gear solid peace walker metal gear 2 solid snake metal gear ps1 vr missions ps1 metal gear solid 2 sons of liberty metal gear solid rising metal gear solid 4 guns of the patriots

[fightingchampion316]

u 4got metal gear 1

[XhunterMenees]

i thought it went

Metal Gear

Metal Gear II Solid Snake

Metal Gear Solid Snake (PS1)

Metal Gear Solid II Sons of Liberty (PS2)

Metal Gear Solid III Snake Eater (PS2)

Metal Gear Solid IV (PS3)

[roach442]

wat is the order of all the mgs games

[CerebralTwilight]

Metal Gear Solid 3 is the first game played by Naked Snake, which is Big Boss in the end. Metal Gear Solid is the second game, played by legendary Solid Snake. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is the third game, played by Solid Snake and also Raiden. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the fourth game, played by Solid Snake, which is old Snake do to the foxdie injection which caused rapid aging. These are the exact oder of the Metal Gear series.

[backtoklondike]

You are a bit wrong, this the order of the series.

Metal gear solid 3 Snake Eater (Ps2)

Metal gear solid portable ops (PsP)

Metal gear (MSX, can be found in Metal gear 3 Subsistence a updated version of snake eater.)

Metal gear 2: Solid Snake (Same as above)

Metal gear solid (Ps)

Metal gear solid 2 Sons of Liberty (Ps2)

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Ps3)

[CerebralTwilight]

Yes, those are the exact orders of all the MGS.

I just went with the common ones.

[filipeflower]

CerebralTwilight, you forgot 'Metal Gear' and 'Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake' for the MSX2 Computer system.

[topdoginthepin]

lmaoo omg carlitonsp1 was right, you are all over these comments in any metal gear video haha. You must realy have a lot of free time ahaha, But anywayss, thanks a bunch carlitonsp1, you are literally the only one on youtube that has a playthrough AND cutscenes to boot !

[filipeflower]

topdoginthepin ,I AM NOT in "any Metal Gear video". Check your so-called "facts" again. Besides, I have just as much free time as other people on YouTube (Carlitonsp included), so it's no big deal pointing that out.

Also, if actually made your research more accurately, you would have known that Carlitonsp isn't the only one who "literally has a playthrough and cutscenes to boot".

[topdoginthepin]

hahah you say the same thing to EVERYBODY, and actually, I have seen you on another MGS video, trying to prove someone else wrong about something like you usually do lmao. And what is it with you and "research". Show me YOUR "research" of someone who has full playthrough, full cutscenes, and no commentary durig important parts. Please sir, thank you

P.S.

you may have a little MORE free time than others if the one who posts these videos knows majority of his comments come from you...

[filipeflower]

1-) Define "everybody".

2-) Just use YouTube's search engine, watch every video that says Metal Gear Solid 2 walkthrough (or playthough) and you'll see what I mean. Also, you merely stated that "Carlitonsp is literally the only who has playthrough and cutscenes". You didn't say anything about commentary during (what you consider) "important parts".

3-) Majority of comments on HIS videos, that is.

[topdoginthepin]

1. should be obvious that "everybody" is everyone you comment to.

2. Already did that before I found this one, why don't YOU try it and find me another.

3. Yes majority of comments on HIS videos coming from you, I'm not denying that..

[RileyRichardz]

Chronologically:

Metal Gear Solid III Snake Eater (PS2)

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (PSP)

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (PSP)

Metal Gear (MSX)

Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX)

Metal Gear Solid/MGS: Twin Snakes (PS1/GCN)

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty (PS2)

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots (PS3)

[ValforWing]

@RileyRichardz

and Metal Gear Solid Rising goes somewhere between MGS2 and MGS4

[BatangBato55]

@RileyRichardz And Metal Gear Solid Rising is in between MGS2 and MGS4.

[roach442]

this isnt sons of liberty

[Carlitonsp1]

Substance is basically Sons of Liberty with some extras.

[roach442]

yea i just figured it out i wasnt thinking rite

[Hacker2090]

hi everybody i was woundering is there diffrent between metal gear solid 2 sons of liberty and metal gear solid 2 substence????

[Carlitonsp1]

a bunch of minigames and a few other extras.

[Hacker2090]

i fineshed metal gear solid 2 substence do u think i should play sons of liberty or there isnt big diffrent betwen them?

[guilhermejrm]

No,there's NO difference in the story,AND Substence,as Carlos said,is the upgraded version,with extra VR,Skateboarding (lol),Snake's side story etc...

[Hacker2090]

ok thanks for your help man

[bof4]

i mean solid snake in mgs 1 2..and naked snake in 3/clone version in 4?

[bof4]

so .....snake from mgs 1 is in mgs 1 2...and mgs3 is ´naked snake'..and a clone version in 4? or a clone version of solid snake?

[0celot92]

if you payed attention naked snake is bigboss and solid , liquid, and solidis are clones of him made by the patriots the project was Les Enfants Terribles

[bof4]

i only played till disc 1 in mgs 1 havent played 2 or 4...finished 3..i just wanna know the story lines cos i cant get the games

[Hacker2090]

man u have to play mgs 1 disc 2 man its the best in MGS series i played mgs 1 and 2 and now playing 3 and i think mgs1 is the best

[MrYelot]

dude me to!

[ZXBrad]

carlitonsp1 did you buy this game or download it online if you bought it where did you and how much if you downloaded it where plz i want this game

[Carlitonsp1]

I bought it as part as the Box Set with the Three Solid games, I got it when I bought MGS4, I sold the MGS3 in there though.

[Lethaone]

Woo, Hudson River! That means Snake was in Jersey at some point!

[ordieloved]

THANK GOD you started MGS2 as well man i love u so much =(.... i almost died cuz of this IRRITATING PIECE OF SHIT called Vash12349 or somethin. He also did a MGS2 walktrough but he kept talking ALL THE TIME!!!!! I coulnd't even properly hear everything cuz he couldn't shut his mouth for just a sec. well anyway thanks :D.

[giggitygangster1]

well fuck you

[crazyzach5]

should I get this or metal gear solid 3? or should I get metal gear solid 2: substance?

[Carlitonsp1]

I like Metal Gear Solid 3 Better

[crazyzach5]

thanks. I watched a review of it and the guy said its REEEEAAAAALLLLY good. Say, have you played Prince of Persia: the sands of time?

[Carlitonsp1]

No, but I played a different game and it was pretty good, but really complicated.

[UltimateRandomosity]

@crazyzach5 Mgs Depends what your going for .... Personally id say Better Gameplay Mgs2 Better storyline Mgs3 :D

[Voltage2014]

Dude, just because MGS2 has aged better doesn't mean the predecessor is overrated. In fact, MGS2 is far more overrated in my opinion. I rented a copy of that game. Trust me, I liked Watchmen's plot (having read the graphic novel), but MGS2's was just too convoluted to be understandable to me.

[Carlitonsp1]

It appears that my Prediction was incorrect.

[liverpoolre4]

i like this game but my favorite metal gear is 4 closely followed by 3

[anime00mgsffkh123]

LMFAO Your comments make me tear. :'D!!!

[anime00mgsffkh123]

Thanx for the download! I only wanted this because I needed the track of the menu theme, but since you make me rofl with your comments on your description, I shall sub. =P

YAY FOR MGS! =]!

[Nightshade3D]

The whole thing about Kojima putting his name on every little thing gets a big excessive. I mean, I watched the MGS3 intro and couldn't help but notice his name flashed on the screen at least 7 times. I wouldn't be surprised if he was president of his own fan club.

[anime00mgsffkh123]

LOL

[filipeflower]

Carlitonsp, I have a question...do you happen to have any Sonic games? If you do, please make a walkthrough about it.

[Carlitonsp1]

Sonic the Hedgehog for the Sega Genesis, played on Virtual Console, and Sonic Adventure 2: Battle for the Nintendo Gamecube.

[filipeflower]

I vote for 'Sonic Adventure 2: Battle'.

[Carlitonsp1]

It's easy as hell, so a run wouldn't prove much, but I guess it's worth a shot.

[filipeflower]

It's just that I haven't seen anyone else on YouTube doing a walkthrough of Sonic Adventure 2: Battle'. Besides, I want to see Shadow's first appearance there.

[Carlitonsp1]

I actually don't like Shadow, the only thing I really like about him is his Hover Blades.

[filipeflower]

His hover shoes? OKay then. By the way, have you seen a fan-made flash video called 'NAZO Unleashed' (made by ChakraX) ?

[Carlitonsp1]

I try to avoid Fan made Sonic videos, many of them sound like Squealing fanboy rants.

[filipeflower]

But this one is different. It's a Sonic The Hedgehog Anime with DragonBall Z influences.

[Carlitonsp1]

I don't like Dragonball Z either, it's slower than Jelly slipping down a hill.

[filipeflower]

But Chakra managed to get this "work" right, Please, take a look at part two.

[Carlitonsp1]

Seems interesting, but I can't really take it seriously.

[filipeflower]

Still, take a look at it.

[filipeflower]

08:06 - "Yes she is, that accent got *EFF*ing annoying, thank god they changed her accent." Mei Ling's accent still remains in this sequel.

[Carlitonsp1]

I am aware of that, in fact, part of the series includes that conversation, but I meant after this game.

[filipeflower]

There must be some kind of reason why they gave her an Asian accent...I mean, that's how she sounded like in the original Japanese version.

[Carlitonsp1]

When the actors are speaking in Japanese, and their actors are Japanese themselves, ALL THE CHARACTERS sound japanese.

[filipeflower]

I know that...but did Hideo Kojima really despised these accents or he had nothing of his own involved with the English dub ?

[Carlitonsp1]

I don't know

[videofan2471]

Strange, every time I play MGS2 Substance, the sunglasses for Raiden and Snake are always there. Anyone know why? And Carlitonsp1, when can you upload MGS4 on here? I bet you can do a way better job than those other folks. Thanks.

[catnickfl]

are you going to do all four mgs

[Carlitonsp1]

Yes

[Draken4426]

MGS1 ISNT overrated, just becos it kicks ass so much and is a really good game DOESNT mean its overrated.

[Carlitonsp1]

It's overrated in the sense that it no where near as good as the real greatest Playstation game ever. (Tekken 3)

[Draken4426]

Different genre altogether, you cant compare a fighting game and an action game, there both different and brilliant in their respective genres. Tekken 2 is better than Tekken 3 IMO. Ogre/true ogre is a pushover compared to devil and kazuya even on hard. Music is a matter off preference but I like Tekken 2 music better as well as the atmosphere.

[Carlitonsp1]

I rented Tekken 2, but I didn't like it as much as Tekken 3.

[filipeflower]

According to the official PlayStation Magazine, 'Tekken 3' is the best beat 'Em Up for PSOne, but it still doesn't surpass Fianl Fantasy VII, not Metal Gear Solid.

[Carlitonsp1]

LIES!

[filipeflower]

How can this be a lie ?