PEE GEE's (INDIAN / COMMON) MYNA TRAP... IN ACTION

[twigg49]

mynas starlings doves goats deer pigs camels carp cane toads foxs rabbits ......need i go on rid the country of all these shit pests

[Eagle8840]

any chance of messaging me the planes to build 1 thanks i have a heap that need removing

[EzekielLk]

I hear these birds are foreign birds and they chase/kill/thin-out the population of the native birds. Think of them as rats, they are pests.

[Kjsnuggles]

So what do you do with them break their necks? how do you kill them after you catch them?

[udroheath]

Where can I buy a trap in NZ?

[MrJoekick]

doesnt work with sparrows -.-

[Auscruffy]

@scizor3d but pigeons don't do as much damage, these birds gang up on all other birds and destroy their eggs+nest.

[Scizor3D]

the nieghbourhood cats in my area just kill them

but in my opinion pidgeons are much worsers

[poinky8]

Bloody Indian mynas are a pest they steal the dog food, come into the house and make a mess, and try and get into the roof to nest.

[euphemus2]

@poinky8 That's poetry:

Bloody Indian mynas

are a bloddy pest

they steal dog food

and make a mess

come into the house

and into the roof to nest

Bloody Indian mynas

are a bloody pest

[poinky8]

@euphemus2 , cheers mate

[thefinisher2010]

these things are pests and need eliminating,another imigrant trying to take over Australia

[euphemus2]

@thefinisher2010 Funny you should say that. An ornithologist I know thinks that most of the concern ("hysteria") about these birds is because they look middle-eastern. I personally don't subscribe to this view but after your post he may just have a point. I don't hate them - I think minas are very clever. I do think they cause problems for native birds and for that reason I would like to see their numbers reduced. BTW: both my grandfathers and one great-grandfather was an immigrant.

[thefinisher2010]

@euphemus2 ok,looks like your 3rd generation,your friends reference is spot on,congregate in numbers,harass the locals,drive local species away,once they have established themselves in an area it goes down in value and only their kind allowed

[euphemus2]

@thefinisher2010 Sorry that should be: both my grandfathers and one great-grandfather were imigrants.

[milllly04]

I have a problem with these birds in my yard. There not even scared of our dog. I love birds and like to keep my pet birds outside but they get so scared as these nasty birds will swoop down and attack them through their cage. I'm going to buy a trap and see if I can get rid of a few. I counted about 30. It would be nice to see more of the native birds. Their are only a couple of magpies. No other birds will come as they are scared off by these nasty birds. Great Video.. I'm inspired :)

[strathyman]

i dont know about you, but i would shoot the sh**t out of those birds. 

[cateyes221981]

CAN I KEEP MYNA BIRDS WITH FINCHES IN A 200 SQ FOOT AVIARY?

[euphemus2]

This was originally sent as a private response - since receiving a nasty post from this twit I have decided to set things straight.

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Thanks for the question on my site about Mynas.

I don't know if you can keep them together - you have to watch mynas they can be a little hostile and they are much smarter than finches...

[euphemus2]

(Cont.)

Mynas are feral in Australia and you are not allowed to keep them - in fact you have to kill them. Sounds a bit harsh but they detroy the native birds' nests and are generally taking over everywhere. There are a lot of them around the world - great birds - very clever.

Sorry I couldn't help more

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Be a little more thoughtful, less flaming, and you might just learn something cateyes221981. I was polite to you.

[ignatiusneo]

I can't find this trap in Singapore. There are many Java mynahs around the place I stay but only 4 common mynah. I have been trying to catch them using different traps but they just don't fall into the traps. Does anyone in Singapore knows where to sell them?

[afgswe]

i live in sweden, and i love these birds, ppl here keep the hill mynah as pets, they make great pets, i have had common myna as a pet when i was a kid, totatlly lovely bird, now i keep parrots, but would love to have a pair of mynahs also, anyone that can maybe help a poor guy by sending some eggs to sweden? would be gratefull for that, hill mynahs can be found in the pet stores here, but not the common myna.

anyone that can send some eggs to sweden?? pls

[euphemus2]

@afgswe

I WOULD BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL. You cannot post eggs OF ANY TYPE into Australia - that breaks our Quarantine laws. If posting them to Sweden, then I'd check Australian and Swedish Customs and Quarantine VERY CAREFULLY. At best I'd expect you need a permit. DON'T ATTEMPT TO IMPORT OR EXPORT WILDLIFE (INCLUDING EGGS) UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND HAVE PERMISSION OF YOURS AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS.

[motabikeboy]

@afgswe

haha. thats funny. we kill myna birds. we hate them and cant get rid of them. so we shoot them.

[afgswe]

@motabikeboy haha i know. i will tell u a more funnier story. as i wrote earlier, i keep many parrots in aviaries and breed them. and as i wrote before i missed myna in my aviaries. the fun part is that i was in germany one month ago, and there i was supposed to also buy a pair of indian myna that u guys hate, but that pair was sold. there was another pair, but in holland. so i drove from germany to holland and bought the myna pair, and then drove back to germany and slept, the day after i

[afgswe]

@motabikeboy the day after i drove back to sweden. finally i got my pair of mynas, and eagerly waiting for them to get babies. i understand that u guys hate them, its not their fault but ya they are destroying many other birds, so its right that ppl get rid of them. i love mynas, but i love parrots more, and would wish that the beautifull parrots of australia would decline because of mynas, that can be found everywhere in the world.....

[PeterHowardCostello]

I do find that they seem to be easier to catch in early spring, when my trapping rate is highest. Then the success drops off, as they seem to become "educated" or more wary.

I like the idea of a holding cage to attract the others and increase they trap count. Thanks for the video. I agree that councils are not doing enough.

[PeterHowardCostello]

It seems that they are the most abundant bird that you see these days.

I bought a mynah trap for $65 about 4 years ago and it only catches one at a time.

Once they are trapped I put my hand into two plastic shopping bags and remove them that way. then I can turn the bags inside out while holding the bird and they are enclosed in the bags. then they can be put to sleep (permanently) and tossed in the garbage bin.

[afgswe]

@PeterHowardCostello hi mr peter, can u maybe send some mynah eggs to sweden? want to have one as a pet, had one when i was a kid, they make lovely pets. i know u hate them, but maybe u can find eggs from them, and help a myna lover :)

[ZecaBaby]

I made this trap yesterday and now wanna put in action but not sure how to kill them. What do you do?

I wanna start a Sydney Indian Myna Action Group.

Marrickville Council has refused to respond to the problem so it's up to the people to get together and fight!!

Indian Mynas have destroyed 4 nests in our yard since last christmas. The Silvereyes had no chance so we stepped in and they finally raised two chicks after losing a dozen!!!

Thanks for posting this!!

[MiNiHuD]

I see this video has become quite popular

[euphemus2]

Hello you: O ye, of little faith!

Yes it gets quite a bit of trafic. I'm answering questions where I can. I'm glad I can help the novice trapper - it was my intention. Its good to see others getting involved.

I live in a non-myna area now - so the trap went to the shed. Then I modified it into a feral-cat trap - worked like a charm.

[MiNiHuD]

I would of done the same thing

[nasafakedit]

Cats kill many mynas

i depise these birds and i am a bird lover

[Chirostenotes]

@nasafakedit

There is no need to despise them.

[nasafakedit]

Great video, mynas are a curse and are certified as vermin in some countries.

I have heard of a pesron who has a myna pet and puts it in his garden and it cals out and all the mynas come visit and this guy shoots them all, obviously not his pet

[kennmoran]

A good idea to drown is a holding cage that fits into a bucket of water, fill the bucket and drop the cage in.

[nasafakedit]

in the swimming pool, great idea

[98209276]

shot them they are a major problem in aus any member of the public is aloud to kill them because there are so many

[euphemus2]

You are still required to follow the laws regarding cruelty to animals - they must be handled and dispatched in a humane manner. Not to mention the laws about wandering around discharging a firearm!

Being angry doesn't solve the problem. Remember, they didn't get themselves to Australia, we got them here; they're not being malicious, they're just doing what they have evolved to do. They're quite clever birds really but they don't belong in Australia and should be eradicated - humanely.

[98209276]

what i ment by this was using a air rifle in rural areas

[nasafakedit]

howcome other birds do not enter the cage?

[euphemus2]

Other birds will enter the cage - you need to check the cages regularly and remove any non-pest species.

[nasafakedit]

How can u remove the other birds safely?

[euphemus2]

There is an access door built into the holding cage. Put on a pair of gloves and grab the non-feral bird. Try to do it quickly without distressing the birds.

[nasafakedit]

small birds might ge a heart attack from that,

[euphemus2]

Small birds usually don't get as far as the holding cage, as they can fit through, and get back out of, the trapping tunnels. Anyway, if you're careful and calm it shouldn't be a problem removing any birds that get in the holding cage.

[nasafakedit]

Thanks thats clever, how does one buy these cages?

[euphemus2]

If you google myna traps you should find traps for sale. A good place to start is your local council (if they have a trapping programme); also a local Myna action group will often sell or rent them - if you live on the Central Coast NSW try CCIMAG.

You can also build them pretty cheap. Make one its real easy. nvlandcare has the plans or google peegee myna trap.

[MiNiHuD]

@euphemus2

I don't remember when I last posted here but the CCIMAG is no more, the founder of the group disbanded it due to lack of member participation.

[acteuro03]

@nasafakedit if in the ACT, Canberra Indian Myna Action Group can provide you with instructions to build your own or you can get one made for you for free :) Although they do ask for a donation to cover materials and research...

[nasafakedit]

@acteuro03 many thanks

Indian minor birds were making my life a misery

until i bought a daisy 880

problem solved

[nasafakedit]

@euphemus2  many thanks

[motabikeboy]

@nasafakedit

thats good if they have a heart attack. when i trap them i kill them.

[nasafakedit]

@motabikeboy  indian minors are scum of the earth but why kill other birds

[motabikeboy]

@nasafakedit

i dont kill other birds. i said i kill myna's

[nasafakedit]

@motabikeboy oh cool i fucking hate those vermin

[estring123]

euphemus2 can you please help me there are 2mynas that come to my backyard everyday eats everything i give to my chicken really annoying. i tried every homemade trap i can think of and caught like 20 other birds, but no mynas. they are SMARTER trust me they know whats a trap and whats not. i say they are smarter than the average human. i need rat poison or slingshot bands can you please tell me how to kill them? thnx

[euphemus2]

I've done my research & it seems "provocative" is your middle name; not wanting a flame-throwing altercation (famous last words!), please consider my previous response & predict my opinion on capital punishment.

Taking your analogy seriously: Mynas aren't criminals, no culpability, they simply do what they do. You're stigmatizing: projecting on them qualities they don't have; being angry at them seems like over-kill (no pun intended).

Sincerely thanks for the response & not calling me names.

[euphemus2]

Oh dear...

Um - I think that is a little sick to be frank.

Personally, I get no pleasure from killing these birds: they are very clever, and talented mimics; but they are a feral pest in Australia and endanger native species and human health.

I DO NOT ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO BE CRUEL TO THESE BIRDS: that is not what trapping them is about; it is also against the law.

Please find a quick and humane way of disposing of any birds you catch.

[altairebnlaahad]

i dont understand, what is the problem with these birds?? do they carry disease or something? can sombody explain!

[euphemus2]

Try this in google: sres-associated anu edu au myna

Mynas are listed by the World Conservation Union as one of the Worlds 100 Worst Invasive Species. In Australia they are up there with Cane Toads. They spread disease, they wreck homes, and they take over nests of native birds. When they take over a nest they are so dirty that no bird will use that nest site again - bad for natives. They need to be eradicated ASAP.

[GoldensGirl1]

i prefer to just shoot them.

[MiNiHuD]

Well I wish you luck and looking forward to the next video. Also the CCIMAG is developing a educational DVD about the indian myna problem.

[MiNiHuD]

There are however more then one version of the mirror trap out there, but ours is the smallest and its green.

[euphemus2]

Just looked it up on the net - I'm getting a mirror tomorrow!

I'll redesign the trap I've got. The holding cage and valve work really well - I deliberately made it tall as they do like to be off the ground.

I will remodel the trapping cage - I have enough wire left over to make a new trapping cage. They will be easy to attract as I always alternate between free-feeding and cage baiting (I'm also deliberately messy with baiting them) that keeps them coming back.

Expect to see a new video!

[MiNiHuD]

They do work, there is one bloke who has caught 5 already.

[MiNiHuD]

I have a mirror trap at home which is not in use because I have already wiped out all the Indian myna's around my place.

It's the newest trap out at the moment and it really works well.

[euphemus2]

The tunnel narrows steadily - they are just too clever around here - they know there is something wrong with the whole thing - they either avoid the entrance, or stick their heads in to get food but back out before they get far enough in. Too much food from the neighbourhood dogs also. There is spikes on the end - I made sure not to bend them in too far - they don't escape.

The drop-door I've built has no tunnel; an aperture and a large trigger pad a little way inside. They don't like tunnels.

[MiNiHuD]

I recommend asking your neighbours if they feed their dogs inside and not leave out food. I done it in the past by explaining the whole sitiuation and it does make a difference.

As for the Mirror trap you can either buy or rent one from the CCIMAG for $40.

[euphemus2]

The neighbours? Not really helpful types generally - I did let them know what I was doing and they said they'd stop leaving out food; that didn't happen.

They do the opposite to what anyone asks of them.

[MiNiHuD]

All you can do is keep remindering them.

[euphemus2]

Mirror trap - have to look that up.

[MiNiHuD]

Instead of a drop door think about of making the funnel a bit smaller, I assume you know that Indian myna's are very pushy birds.

Does your funnel have spikes on the end?

[euphemus2]

MiNiHuD:

YOU WERE RIGHT!

I nabbed 2 Mynas at once with the drop-door today, only to watch in horror as 1 walked out, past the spikes, through one of the tunnels! AGHHHHH!

I've fixed that little problem.

[MiNiHuD]

Just make sure that the funnel is as solid as a rock and the spikes are sharp to keep them from going back out.

But one other method we are trialing is using a block of wood at the end of the funnel and wire hanging down to stop them from going out the funnel.

[MiNiHuD]

So any good news?

[MiNiHuD]

Also since I am a member of the CCIMAG I must tell you to be careful with gasing these birds especially with Car exhaust.

The Department of Primary Industries has not approved of using Car exhaust as a humane method of disposal and you can be charged if caught or reported.

But dont worry the CCIMAG working on gaining their approval by developing new gasing methods to the kill the birds quicker and finding loopholes in their rules.

[euphemus2]

MiNiHuD:

Of course I don't use car exhaust to gas them (me? never!). Why aren't they out prosecuting idiots who keep them as pets, feed them, and help fledglings back to their nests?

I've been trapping for about a month now: have a local myna population here of around 35 total (small); in first round I managed 7 (the neighbours' kids kept liberating them); this round, 4 so far; I've not caught any other species.

Just added a new drop-door entrance - lets see if I can get the more wily ones.

[MiNiHuD]

Indian myna birds make really good pets and I get quite annoyed myself when I see people feeding or helping their young. I have learned that telling or asking people not too feed them will not get you anywhere, however what I do is take the food people give to the indian myna's and throw it in the bin.

[MiNiHuD]

The PG trap named after it's designer professor Peter Green. I used this trap myself ages to catch Indian myna's but I kept catching Satin Bowel birds instead.

Your hand made version Of the PG trap has a larger 2nd chamber but what I found by using the Round Trap which also has 2 chambers is that they like to be high.

I'm a member of the Central Coast Indian Myna Action Group Keep up the good work and how many have you caught by the way.