"After the woman died she went straight to hell. She asked Satan for his promises. By deceit, she had gotten him many souls but at the last, Satan had laughed and scorned her. He said, 'I deceived you and used you all those years'. Flesh was being ripped from her bones. Satan said, you served me well. You brought me more than 500 souls, You are going to serve me here also". The woman screamed in pain as the flesh was ripped from her bones by demons. Jesus said, "I came to save all men!
You know if you interprate the blble without knowing that God is supulast to be the good guy he doesn't seem like it. When I read the bible he just seemed to me like a jelious dictator who was enslaving all the people.
I don't care if the things I believe in are against your moral values, some of the things you believe in are against my moral values. i don't try and convert you, show the same respect
@pansarblack Hi there. It is the devil who enslaves people, him and their own sin. Jesus died to set people free and He is doing it all over the world even today. God is a God of love AND justice. He demonstrated great love in sending Jesus to die for our sins, but for those who reject Him there is certain judgement to come. It would not be an act of love to withhold the gospel from witches, they need it just as much as anyone else (if not more).
@SarahSLH There is a big difference from 'withholding' and not shoving it down our throats. Would it surprise you to know that I am a Wiccan and own a copy of your bible? I bare no grudge against your religion I simply don't believe it is correct. I have friends who are Christian and we respect eachothers believes, they ask me questions about my faith and I ask questions about theirs and NEVER have they attempted to change my view. Everyone knows about Christianity, so stop shoving it at us.
@baconpatrol1 You think Christians don't know anything about being on the receiving end of hatred? It is God who condemns witchcraft, those who stand by His view of it are just in agreement with Him. Those who practice it are in rebellion against God and are therefore rejecting His way including the offer of salvation through Jesus in favour of following satan.
Not in the same context in which they have constantly exerted. Absolutely not. Don't confuse hatred for irratation, you deserve EVERY bit of criticism you recieve. Historically, the very doctrines you base your life off of have enslaved millions, killed millions , and corrupted and indoctrinated millions of CHILDREN for centuries. The new world doesn't have any room for the greedy christian agenda, and whether you acknowledge it or not, your religion is falling to pieces. It is dying
@SarahSLH Question: are we Wiccans bothering anyone? No. We practice silently and quietly. You will never see us protesting outside over your churches. If anyone's bothering or disturbing the peace it is you! Leave us alone. My Goddess is so loving that if we do wrong in this lifetime we will be reincarnated to try again and learn from our mistakes. Your 'loving' Jesus will just send you to hell. I hope you find the Goddess love in your next lifetime. Blessed Be (Note see how civil we can be?)
1) Jesus won't send me to hell because I have put my faith in Him and what He did for me on the cross so I am saved. This is true of all born again Christians.
2) Your loving goddess is a satanic deception, there is no such thing as reincarnation.
'Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,' Hebrews 9:27
Also, anyone practicing witchcraft is affecting those around them, whether they mean to or not by calling upon demonic powers.
@eliask93 Wiccans are harming others, yes. They are unwittingly harming themselves too. I looked at your profile, if my son (who is only a couple of years older than you) had got into this dark stuff I would be really concerned, how did you get drawn into witchcraft?
@SarahSLH No. We played the whole born again Christian thing for a while but we realized that Christianity is based on fear and that a very unhealthy based religion.
@eliask93 Hi there. Christianity isn't a game that you play, or at least it shouldn't be. Genuine Christianity is when a person repents of their sin, invites Jesus Christ to be their personal Saviour and begins a new life. That life is one of fellowship with Him, and other believers, reading of the word, daily prayer, ministry, the work of the Holy Spirit in us etc, it is a personal relationship with our Creator who has a plan for us and a purpose. Did you ever have that?
@SarahSLH Your religion is a cult. It brainwashes innocent children into being afraid of burning in Hell so they think that if they accept Jesus as their Saviour they will go to heaven. You tell your children not to be afraid of monsters under their beds yet poison their minds with this garbage. It's sick and is a form of child abuse. You should be ashamed of yourself, not only for insulting me but every other Wiccan. We have never harmed you and never will. Unlike you who burned us for years.
@MrTadblack I don't live in a prison at all, I live in the freedom that comes through receving Jesus Christ. All outside of Christ are on the broad road, bound for hell, I am not. There is much evil in this world, the human race is fallen, the good news is that Jesus Christ died to redeem us and reconcile us to God, but the choice is ours. We can choose to remain in darkness if we want to. The problem is, if we live without Christ we will die without Him, and then we are lost for eternity.
@SarahSLH I hope your path brings you the peace that my path has brought me. I ask only that you respect that my path is mine to to walk, preferably without your commentary. But if you harm none, do as you will. Blessed Be.
@MrTadblack Ultimately the path of witchcraft won't bring you any peace, the Bible says "There is no peace, says the Lord, for the wicked." Isaiah 48:22. All outside of Christ as classed as lawbreakers and to practice witchcraft is further rebellion against God. This path will lead you to eternal torment if you continue to walk on it, not to a place of peace. But yes, the decision is yours.
@SarahSLH We are not going to agree on religion but regardless of the words and rituals we use in worship we have a primary duty to treat each other with respect. The Golden Rule is the Golden Rule whether we talk of the Rede and the Rule of Three or whether we harken back to the fact that as we do unto the least, we do unto Him. I get your need to "spread the good news" and I want to say thank you for taking "no" for an answer.
@MrTadblack It isn't me you are saying no to. Say it to Jesus, Jesus Christ who was flogged, mocked and crucified for your sin. Tell Jesus who is your only hope of escaping an eternity in hell that your answer is no. Me? I am just a messenger who has experienced His saving grace and gratefully received His healing and transforming power in my life.
@MrTadblack I also want to say to you that I became a Christian at the age of 23, I haven't been sheltered from life and I know people have many beliefs, coping mechanisms and things they cling to for comfort. But Christianity isn't a 'religion I chose' Jesus is a person who transformed my life. When you are into witchcraft you are under the control of the devil in a serious way, but you can get free, if you want to, feel free to contact me and we will pray for you.
Why do Christians feel the need to manipulate people from their faiths? People know what is in their heart, and if they feel that Wicca or Asatru is right for them, then they should be free to follow it without molestation.
@MrROTCcadet People don't always realise what is in their heart. An unsaved person has a sinful heart that can be led astray and deceived by sinful desires. You are free to follow your own path, but as Christians know where that path will lead they warn you out of love.
@SarahSLH Christians do not the slightest clue about where anyone's path will take them. No Christian has any right nor any power over our fates or destines. Neither does their "savior" or their god. We are free from the moment our souls were crafted. There is no need for salvation. All we need are to live our lives with courage and honor, and the gods will see we are taken care of when we pass into the next world. Honor is the only thing to live by.
@MrROTCcadet It is God who created us and to Him we will ultimately have to answer. We can know where our paths will take us because the Bible is clear, those who die without Jesus will go to hell, those who die knowing Him will go to heaven. There is a broad road and a narrow road, one leads to death, the other to life.
So your pushing scripture but have you read the whole bible? There are some serious moral issues with your God and many contradictions throughout the bible. Many people who become atheist become atheists because they read the bible to try to become better christians. Us Atheists are basing our beliefs on evidence and not faith and we have asked the forbidden questions like prove the existance of God and nobody or no thing has answered it with the proper evidence. Show evidence and we change.
all an occult bases? And Christianity isn't a cult? The wiccan rede is not open ended it is meant to make you think before you act and every action has a natural consequence. There is also the 3 fold law "for that wit you put out will come back 3 fold" so there is consequence for negative actions just like in nature. Don't knock something you havn't researched in depth. I studied for 10 years and know what its about same goes for Abrahamic religions.
@SarahSLH yes, I know. It's just when people make someone appear to be the ultimate antagonist of their beliefs, when really we don't want to be anyone's badguys, it gives the illusion we ARE evil. it just gets old, all the accusations of doing things we know we aren't doing and praising & obeying things we don't even believe exist. So, when people say "you're praising Satan," it ultimately ties witchcraft with christianity, but I don't want to be a part of Christianity.
Is it me, or do these people have no where to talk? One of them spent a bit of time on an online Pagan site. Oh, ok, NOW they're right.
Look, I like Christianity. I like their teachings and life lessons, and Jesus is the type of person everyone should strive to be, but stop! Let us do our thing, u can do your thing. If u want to believe we're worshiping ur devil, go 4 it, but don't drag isinto your territory. We don't want to b forced into ur beliefs.
@SarahSLH On the contrary someone is forcing them or at least was. Your pastor appeared to be listing all of those witch trials and executions as a testament of pride. Those were horrible deplorable acts of prejudice and discrimination only second to the holocaust. How do you feel about people taking your literal sense of "God's Law" and enforcing it through fear mongering and sick punishments? Not very peaceful.
Also, I'm sorry your Lord is so easily offended to destroy in a temper tantrum.
@DamienZshadow Witchcraft was illegal and still is in God's eyes (although sinful man has legalised it). But man cannot overrule God, there is judgment awaiting those who continue to practice this evil instead of repenting and coming to Jesus to save them and set them free.
@SarahSLH So you're telling me you're not only okay with what people did to hunt and persecute witches but that you would be all right with that kind of discrimination and butchering now too? I am appalled by your lack of compassion that most Christians tend to lay claim too. Thank goodness I don't live in a nation that kills over ideologies and religious differences.
@DamienZshadow What I actually said was that witchcraft should never have been legalised. Not only does it wreck the life of the person involved in it but the lives of those around them too. Genuine Christian compassion doesn't accept witchcraft (so as not to offend witches) it warns them that they are heading for the lake of fire and need to run from the occult and receive Jesus instead. With regards to your suggestion of violence the battle is not physical but spiritual. Ephesians 6:10-18.
@SarahSLH No, when you outlaw a religious practice and proclaim consequences for their worship you are physically battling them. What would happen in a world ruled by your religious law? If someone were practicing a condemned prayer how would you enforce that law? Would you have those people fined? Shackled? Beaten? Executed? When you prohibit something there must be a consequence so what is your consequence? Surely something physical in nature or it's not really illegal.
@DamienZshadow It is God Almighty who has condemned witchcraft, man's views are insignificent compared to His. Participating in witchcraft is rebellion against your Creator and has consequences. Does man have the right to tell God He is wrong? Without the love of God the entire human race would be destined for a Christless eternity in hell, as it is there is a chance, but we have to do it God's way and repent, turn from sin and receive Jesus.
@SarahSLH Then leave it to God and his mysterious ways of guidance. You have no right as a lowly human to dictate God's way and force it on others. You desire for enforcing your decree on pagans is cruel and man-made punishment. You can't cop out and claim your just being an instrument of God when you take your hand and force someone to not practice their religion through punishment. That's you, not God, making them pay fines, imprisoning, and putting them to death. Stop avoiding the question.
@SarahSLH Yes but what good is freewill when people are oppressed by a theocracy that outlaws and punishes a religious practice? Someone was obviously forcing those witches in the past. If you're saying that I am putting words in your mouth then please show me otherwise and tell me how you don't agree with the approach of the witch trials.
@DamienZshadow I will not support anyone in their bid to freely practice what is an abomination to God and therefore bring judgement on the land. Witchcraft is sin and living this way has consequences, not just for the individuals but for their families, friends and those around them. If you invite the devil into your home you can't really complain when he begins to make himself at home.
@SarahSLH Okay so you support the suppression of the freedom of a particular religion. You claim this religion brings harm but if you want to convince a parliament or congress to enact this law, you'll need evidence. Please provide a study that showed that people living within a 5 mile radius of a witch somehow experience a poorer quality of life. Also, I'm sorry but your God sure sounds like a big mean jerk if he's going to punish everyone else for someone's actions.
You have that famous "Do not judge so that you will not be judged." verse. I'll admit it doesn't mean that you can't judge someone for being critical. But what it DOES mean is that you are not to have, a "censorious spirit" whereby you squelch the spirit of another or become critical of others in order to lift your self higher. If you do not know what censorious means, look it up because that is what I feel you fall directly under. Censoring others spiritual choices and needs.
No it doesn't mean that at all. You are misusing the word of God, like the devil did when he tried to tempt Jesus to sin in the wilderness. Scripture repeatedly warns us to make the distinction between right and wrong, for this we must make judgements. The verse you quoted (back in context) is about hypocritically (or self-righteously) judging others, it is NOT about accepting falsehood. And God has already made a judgement about witchcraft see Deut 18:10-12.
Twisting Scripture is what he does yes. Regarding being like the devil? The Bible actually says that those who do evil are the children of the devil, and that those outside of Christ are controlled by him.
Wow, your very judgemental for so called Christians. Why do you feel the need to be so insulting? Treat others as you would be treated yourself, understand that there are other religions in this world, which is a beautiful thing. God gave us free will. It doesn't seem you are worried about them, you are worried about yourselves. I personally think you are pathetic, your ye olde Christian views are outdated, even for other Christians.
Hi there. False religon is not a beautiful thing, nor is witchcraft, both are deceptions which can only lead people away from the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the power of God for salvation. See Romans 1:16. As you say, God gave us freewill, but that doesn't mean we are not held accountable for how we use it!
This would be the person traveling on a path staring at the ground. I do not know you, but I am fairly certain you have never become part of other religions. More so have you ever actually become apart of the religions you are tearing into, I doubt it. You may hold your tongue if you actually walked in the shoes of the people you insult and look down upon.
EllieMarianna don't take offence ,cause he is against himself and appeased at what he believe.satan is an accuser and he comes to kill , steal and destroy. For God sent not his Son into the world to c ondemn the world . But that the world through him might be saved.You cannot mistaken a TRUE CHRIST LIKE INDIVIDUAL AS A SATANIST, because they are truly a child of GOD.
You christian folk have got it wrong. Wicca is a nature based religion intended to help people survive. We use magic to balance in harmony with nature, what is so wrong about that? Why do you christians say were so bad if you have no idea about our faith? The bible says thou shall not kill, then what happened 300 years ago? What have we done, 300 years today, and we still get this crap? Sinners?
Against god, why? Please, leave our faith alone, we don't condemn your faith evil, why ours?
Romans 1 warns about worshipping the creation rather than the Creator, it is idolatry. Furthermore the use of magic (Satanic powers) is also forbidden by the Creator, it is detestable to Him, see Deut 18:10-12. Don't use history to try and justify what is evil, come out into the light and allow the Spirit of God to show you the evil you are involved in, let Him shine His light in the darkness and lead you to repentance.
How can one practice "Satanic powers" if they do not believe in Satan? What of the use of magic before Christianity? How is that Satanic when he hadn't been invented yet?
Of course you are going to get a hostile reaction, you go to another religions forum and start discussing Christianity. You should know going in there as a Christian that there is plenty of bad blood between the two religions. While not an excuse is the truth, some subscribe to this while others do not... You need to be open minded enough to realize this and prepare to get flak.
So the Christian god dislikes Witches or anything the like, this is something I do not get. You follow the word and turn your head up to those people, but what of your family? You two sitting there have to realize that your family was Pagan. Christianity is a middle eastern religion, you two sure do not look middle eastern. You have adapted your life around the religion due to conversion and domination over the years. But the UK specifically was born on Paganism.
You follow your book as if it were the words of your God. How is it the words of your God when it was written solely by man? What that God speaks through these men to write his words? Well then give some parchment and a pen to Shirley Phelps so she can clarify some words of God. If you don't know who this nut is search her on YOUTUBE.
To each his/her own, but don't come on here thinking that you are any better. David your smug way of saying ...Pagan or whatever. at 4:20 has a certain tone to it don't you think? Before you rise your flag of self righteousness you might want to see how you back hand your roots and family prior to the Christian conversion which may have claimed the life of your family members.
What an enlightening response. By the way, Satan/Devil (In your depiction) is purely Christian. To be a Satanist you need to be Christian, I am of Celtic Pagan decent which does not have any concept of Jesus in it just as it doesn't have any concept of Satan in it. So to go into "The Devils Camp" if you are not going into a Satanist group then you are wrong. Typically the grouping of Pagans I know do not like Satanists because we don't believe in Christianity which go hand in hand with Satan.
Satan is certainly not Christian, nor could he ever be so. In the same way Satanism is in direct opposition to Christianity, a Christian cannot be a Satanist and vice versa. The devil's camp refers to far more than groups of Satanists, but all those who live under his control rather than God's. The use of witchcraft is Satanic, as the power used is his.
So you mean to tell me Satan is Buddha, or Zues or Thor (You get my picture). Despite your clouded views of other religions they don't associate with Satan because Satan has nothing to do with any other religion other than Christianity. If you read other writings from other religions you would know this. So with that being said, the only way to be a Satanist is to be a Christian seeing as a Christian is the only one that writes/speaks of it. A Satanist recognizes Jesus and your God.Hand and hand
SarahSLH you are certainly right The Bible say's in Deutronomy 18:10
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass throught the fire or that useth divination or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch.
To God be the glory! And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth VOILENCE, AND THE VIOLENT TAKE IT BY FORCE.! Mat,11:12
You are under Spiritual Warfare and your battle is WON!
Ok. I am a witch, I do nothing evil, I dont hurt people, I dont put spells on people. As long as you harm none do as you will means don't harm anyone, be responsible for yourself and others.
The witch trials - many women were innocent, they had done nothing wrong and yet died. It's disrespectful to speak about them like that.
If God created everything, he created Wicca. Are you calling me evil? There isn't a Devil, its a Christian creation. Quit with the persecution.
finaly a sensible comment. the truth is that good and evil are human concepts. even if there book of magics is true a major part of the witch trials were done from the basis of the bible "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live".
wait that cant be correct what was the important commandment thing that was supposedly written on a big stone tablet something about "you shalt not kill" just more epic.
God didn't create Wicca (witchcraft), He condemned it and He still does. Just because witches are not struck dead instantly by the Almighty doesn't mean He doesn't mind it or even approves. God in His love gives people time to repent, but if they do not they will reap the consequences of their sin.
The bible which was written by man. Seeing as man is "foulable" what makes you think that the bible wasn't altered or had additions made by the biased opinions of those who actually wrote it and rewrote it? God didn't create your book lady, people did. There are so many renditions of that thing, how do you tell which one is right? What would you believe if they unearthed the first book and it said love thy neighbor be it pagan or hindu? How do you think you would fair in the eye's of your god?
Wicca is just another religion amongst others!! Let them be and the only reason you may have found wiccans that may have been rude towards you is because they are tired of people trying to prove that what they believe in what they connect with in life is wrong. Is it rite for someone to take away what they hold dear to them!?
If you are proving people wrong by using the bible then well you are not using proper evidence to do so. The bible was written hundreds of years after Christ died and the bible was well in fact written by men! The bible also has years missing from it as well. Science today also contradicts and proves parts of the bible wrong.
The Bible was not written at one time, the first five books were written by Moses! Yes the Bible was written down by men but they were moved by the Holy Spirit to do so.
"Yes the Bible was written down by men but they were moved by the Holy Spirit to do so."
Exactly my point, how does someone say "God was/is speaking to them" but you see a bum on the corner on the street that says God is speaking to him/her and they are deemed crazy. Seriously, look up Shirley Phelps. She is a christian who believes God speaks to her, yet most Christians believe she's crazy. Even if God is or did speak to her, she clearly has her own opinions wrapped up into her words.
Im sorry Im Christians and i believe that if you dont agree with a religion then you shouldnt spout about how bad it is or how you dont agree with it!
Well, they didn't go on a Christian website and start telling the people there about the Goddess. So of course they were hostile.
Those who cast spells with a harmful intent are not Wiccans, but fools and will see the results in their own lives.
What Christians don't get is that Wiccans don't give a damn about what the Bible says, because they believe that it's a book made up by people for their own agendas.
So, it sounds like you'd like to go back to the good ole days when you can execute witches and not be bothered by them. While we haven't actually be persecuted much, most of us were treated very poorly by Christians at one time in their lives. Sounds like also you think we are all evil regardless of whether we have done evil things or good things.
repent from what? being human? stop making such a fool of yourself.i mean all people who believe in other gods then you do is a pagan and needs god.i think you need god more then we do because you always come up with a book written by men.dont get me wrong i have some christian friends and we get allong fine i wish that could always be that way.
ok first of all when i said we came before god...i meant that pagans were worshiping this land way before the bible was invented and before the christians started pointing their finger.
dont you see that if u just kept your mouth shut and read you bible ( which was written by man)
then there wouldnt be that much hurt in this world and i agree with riva witch the bible. the bible has many versus telling to kill and slay and all that.
Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance 0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Born again Christians have a personal relationship with God, therefore they are able to hear Him and proclaim what He has said. We also have the Holy Spirit within who can speak to people through us.
how did you "hear him" if it was not with your ears it was not hearing, unless we change what "to hear" means, the holy spirit speaks through you? again you claim a supernatural being is speaking, but its you saying it.
look lady just because your so called " bible " says divination is wrong doent mean anything and we dont believe in the devil you are the most horrible people on earth we dont want to hear jesus this and that we want our peace we were around before god anyway so stop trying to domiate the world and open up your eyes. do you even realize what you people have done to pagans over the years you need to just leave u be stop trying to "save us" from damnation. satan is bullshit .....write me for more.
Hi there. No one was around before God, He is eternal, the Creator, the great I AM. People are fallible human beings with a fallen sinful nature that need a Saviour. JESUS CHRIST is that Saviour for all who will repent of their sin (that includes witchcraft) and ask Him to come into their lives as their personal Lord and Saviour. Divination is wrong. Many choose to ignore God's word but that doesn't make it obsolete, it just highlights the rebellion in sinful man/woman and their lost state.
When you listed all the crimes the christians commited against witches you forgot to apoligise for all those acts and ask for forgiveness on behalf of those murders. Also you're hypocrites, Christians believe they can be forgiven for "sins" even if you never get the victim's forgiveness. You refuse to take responsiblity for your actions. You believe that its ok to do evil because your "Lord" will forgive you. We take responsibility for our actions and reject evil (that includes your devil).
In the video David was speaking briefly about legal justice carried out against witches to give some background of witches and witchcraft in this country. He was not implicating Christians with the arrest and trial of witches. So Christians don't have to apologise for anything.
2 Kings 6:28-29 And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.
I don't think believing that they are forgiven for their sins by god is hypocritical. Their are people out there who are not in a position to forgive for various reasons. Also part of asking for forgiveness either from a deity or person or group is recognizing wronghood. Also crimes that Christians committed against witches or any other group in the past can't be undone. For the most part the witch trials or executions are acknowledged and admitted to be wrong. (Cont.'d)
Beyond that what do you want them to do? It is a better use of time to try to break stereotypes and prejudices surrounding various groups of people in order to make a better future. As well people have killed Christians and persecuted them as well, which was just as wrong as what they have done to others. Lastly, your average Christian (from my understanding) don't use their beliefs to do evil. There are people out there who use religion to their gain, but not all. Brightest Blessings
I disagree. Even if a person relises what they have done is wrong that does not undo the harm that they caused. Therefore the idea of people (such as pedos/rapists/nazis/etc) getting off scot free with their crimes just because they believe in a certain man/god is sicking. This is the main principle of Christianity, that everyone can be forgiven for any crime so long as they believe in Jesus! Anyone who believes such a concept is mentally sick as far as I'm concerned.
I completely understand that view. I do believe that people need to be held accountable for what they do even if they believe that god or whatever deity has forgiven them. However, asking for forgiveness means recognizing wronghood, which I personally feel is a step towards preventing it from occurring again. You are right, the harm cannot be undone and for some cannot be fully healed. I fully agree that people should be held accountable for what they have done. Continued
Forgiveness and accountability are not mutually exclusive. You can forgive a person for doing something but still hold them accountable for what they have done. For example if someone where to steal from you could forgive them and still charge them with theft in a court of law. That doesn't mean that they were not forgiven and the forgiveness does not prevent them from receiving some sort of reprecussion. I hope that helps explain what I said in my originial comment. Brightest Blessings
That is why it is so important that the whole gospel message is preached, not just the bit about what you can have!! The command to REPENT should never be sidelined. God's forgiveness and all that He offers is conditional that we first genuinely repent .
Repenting does not undo the damage nor change the feelings of the victims of an action. First a person should repent/apologise then accept a punishment for their evil/wrong/harmful action(s), then forgiveness should be forgiven but only by the victim. No god/deity stands for all humanity and as such no god/deity can forgive all. I.E. if someone steals from you, your god/diety is not the victim, therefore he/she/they can't give forgiveness. Only you can forgive someone who wrongs you.
But witches need to repent because witchcraft is sin. Do not try to excuse this sin by blaming the entire born again church for a flawed justice system from the past. It may suit witches to play the persecution card here, however true Christians suffered greatly as did those wrongly accused of witchcraft. Although witchcraft is no longer against the law of the land it is still against God's law and there will be no witches in heaven.
Most people play the persecution card when it suits them, even you did in your comment. Witches are good people like those of any other religion. Please consider learning about this and other religions from sources that are either unbiased or balance it with sources from both sides before you say things against them. I think it is fair to remind Christians and other people of what they have done, just as it is fair to offer them forgiveness for it. Continued
I say this because if we forget past wrongs then we do not strive to prevent them from happening again or similar wrongs from happening. Brightest Blessings
Witches are not good people they are rebelling against God by doing what he has forbidden in His word. They are sinning in a hideous way. It is only sinful man who has legalised it, God still detests it.
I'm sorry that you view people of this religion in such a way. However people of religions other than Christainity are good people. To say otherwise based on their religion rather than actually knowing the person would be like if I said to you that because of all the people that Christians burned at the stake and killed through other means and since you are Christian then you must be a killer and a bad person. Which is an illogical assumption. Continued
An assumption like this is harmful to both parties involved. It is harmful to the victim of those assumptions because of the negativity that it creates towards them. It is also harmful to the person/people who think those things because it prevents them from getting to know the person and allows them to continue onwards in ignorance of people who are different. Brightest Blessings
stop saying witches where executed most where just innocent unlucky unjustly accused victims of Cristian hysteria and Mathew Hopkins was a power hungry murderer. you two are so ignorant you are ridiculous the only evil spirit is the one that affects Christians his name is Jesus sent to cause war and devide the people of course people became cristian and left the old natural religions they where burned or hanged if they didn't you brain washed fools i so pity you
The human beings who wrote the Bible labelled competing religions as "witchcraft" in order to gather more followers. Later, Christianity absorbed many pagan traits in order to gain converts -- the pagan ceremony of "Saturnalia" became Christmas. And do you really think that rabbits and eggs have anything to do with Easter? It's a spring fertility ritual!
Easter to the Christian is a celebration of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, God's plan of salvation for mankind and His victory over death and the devil. Easter eggs are the symbol of new life in Christ. I know pagans have other ideas but for us, that is Easter. Christmas is a celebration of the incarnation, the beginning of God's plan of salvation. Being celebrated at this time it is a victory over paganism! Witchcraft is the name given to witchcraft! God detests it and judges it.
Discord20 is accurrate, the word Easter is even derived from the Goddess Ostara, who was the goddess of fertility. The celebration of Christmas on Dec 25 designated as Christmas to Pope Julius I, sometime in the 4th century A.D. It was set to coincide with the Roman Winter Festivals. It's certain that Jesus ''wasn't'' born on December 25. In fact, the details in the Bible clearly point to his being born in the spring. (Continued)
To us it is a victory over Paganism, celebrating the birth of Jesus at this time. We do have videos on Christmas if you want to know more about how we view this holiday or discuss it further.
I do know how the holiday is viewed by Christians (I have Christian friends and I studied it myself), thanks for the offer though. The point of my earlier comment was that the designation of Christmas on Dec 25. was pointing out that it was due to the fact that other religions celebrated a festival on that day, so the Church shifted their holiday to match it. This was a method of appearing to be not so foreign from those they were trying to convert. (Cont.'d)
The Bible does not condone murder, in fact one of the ten commandments is "You shall not murder". The conditions re: slavery were set out for the purpose of preventing the mistreatment of slaves/servants not to encourage the practice.
Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
what will you do if you die and realise your when i die which is going to be soon i gues if im wrong i will go to hell happily cos i admit responsability for my earthly doings unlike cristians you just say sorry for that murder and alls forgiven cos i turned to christ duh do you see somthing wrong here
the word witch craft derives from wish craft the art of deriving change through the force of ones own will i hope your church doesnt let the children blow out birthday candles and make a wish cos thats witch craft which im sure you already knew being the smart informed cristian you are
complaining about paganism is also the ridicule and dishonor of "ki" or "chi"inner energy that lies within the human body, you harness and channel ki to create elements such as fire
no it doesn't science and oddly enough, buddhism has proved humans are capable of such powers, it isn't through occult the enzymes and proteins in your body produce energy to give you the ability to move, humans are also created from a star in result of the big bang, that energy is vast and powerful, eventually maybe humans can harness the power and use it for the better good of humanity
Doctrines built on error (i.e. the big bang theory) can never lead people to the truth. If people would look into the Bible for their knowledge they would be a lot wiser!
i have wicca blood in me with it i will use the powers to become the protector of the universe,the answer for all living things that cry out for peace,the protector of the innocent, the light in the darkness,truth,ally to good, nightmare to jesus
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and WITCHCRAFT; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
again i want to be the protector of the universe it is a dream i want to be reality, religion is evil and only the human connection to the universe and spirituality within the souls of stars used to create us
these are all words quoted from bible speak debauchery for gds sake that just doesn't happen and drunkennes its your religion that dishes out wine and pretends its blood your drinking disgusting seudo vampirism we prefer fruit juice in our chalice cos its wholesome and a gift from the great earth mother
Hi jackswinney123. Nothing accomplished through witchcraft is TRULY good, because the power used is satanic. The devil can masquerade as an angel of light, 2 Cor 11:14-15, but he is still evil.
and he could also have been the instigator of the wholes jesus fiasco how did mary know it was a good force that was using her the whole bible might be a complex sceme by satan if hes as power full as you beleive he could have deluded all you bible readers for all these years did you ever think of that you may have been taken in by satan all this time that you thought you where saved
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I am an Christian and I am having an extremely terrible time with witches cursing me and giving me awful dreams. They constantly communicate with me by mental communication, a form of witchcraft. The police are using withcraft in my country and the F.B.I. They are extremely harrassing me. I am uncertain as what to do about it. Please look at my videos explaining my circumstance and respond as to how I can promote my videos on youtube, so I can escape my situation.
My advice to you. Get on prayer and declare a fast for a day or two and prayer and ask Jesus to break those chains. Bind that power in the name of Jesus Christ.
Rebuke the devil in Jesus name, if you are a born again Christian then He (God) that is in you is greater than he (Satan)that is in the world. Get under the blood of Jesus and turn their curses back on their own heads. Don't allow yourself to get scared of the devil, he should be scared of you. Realise what you have in Christ. Sometimes when we are feeling low we can start to talk as though we are defeated, instead of rising up and using what God has given us. Are you in a born again fellowship?
i like the fact you never commented on other religions show that you are narrow minded a sheep if anything you follow one thing and belive its true what if i said i could curse you and your family right now would you belive or would you belive god is protecting you?? ps i wont curse you because im not an evil person your are far to judgemental sarah
What do you mean I haven't commented on other religions, have you seen any of our other videos? We have covered many different subjects, beliefs etc. However this one is on witches, hence the content! With regards to my faith, yes I believe the gospel of Jesus Christ to be the only way of salvation for mankind. Witches curses have no effect on born again Christians, in fact their curses will come back on their own heads.
BTW KrustyDumbo, the very fact that you mentioned cursing me shows that you acknowledge this power can be used for very evil purposes. Why would you want anything to do with it?
I found this video by accident and while I didn't watch all of it I did see some problems in it. One being what you said the Wiccan rede meant, do what you think is right (paraphrasing). The harm none do what you will means that we have to look at every possible outcome of our actions and if we see that it hurts someone emotionally, mentally, or physically then we can't do it. Therefore it actually covers quite a bit of actions. Continued
Also I just wanted to comment on your statement that when you went onto a pagan board that they were hostile towards you. It may have been your approach or the fact that the board was a place that they could be open about their beliefs without fear of being attacked or anything like that (especially since many people do not accept this belief system). Brightest Blessings.
Christians and Witches belong to two opposing kingdoms, the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. That is why the hostility, the darkness doesn't like the light. However Jesus commisioned His followers to go out into the world and preach the gospel, and He led me there so that is where I went. I learned a lot myself through the experience too.
The proof that it was right for me to be there was that a witch I met there was delivered and set free, I even prayed the sinners prayer with him over im. The Lord will do that, send someone even for one person He sees will respond. It was also a training ground for me and the others, though they didn't respond at that time, may still do so because they have heard the gospel. He wasn't the only one to ask questions privately from there either.
Hi midnightmoonrise. But what (most) witches don't realise is that just by practising witchcraft they are harming people. They are bringing dark spiritual powers into their lives, homes, families, and also their neighbourhoods. Also until a person is born again their morals as to what is ok and what isn't are based on the view of this fallen world, instead of on God's word which is absolute truth. Wiccan's may genuinely believe they are helping people with this power but that doesn't make it so.
I have to say that there does not have to be hosility between our two groups. Yes there are differences and there are some who argue against the other. Some wiccans still hold the Christians at fault for the burning times and there are Christians who believe that wiccans are evil or worshipping the devil/demons. Yes there are wiccans who convert to Christianity because that is the path for them and there are Christians who convert to wicca (like myself). Continued
I don't know if you fully understand this belief system or have been given some false information by someone who may have been well meaning. I'm just guessing based off of your comments and the part of this video that I saw. If you do have questions about this belief system I am always more than happy to answer them. I wish you the brightest blessings.
Yes, that is true though as I said before I found this video by accident and viewed it not knowing what it was actually about. The reason that I didn't finish it (though I got to under 2 minutes from the end) was because it was not researched, even the explanation of the rede was not its actual meaning. And with all due respect you would also be in a better position to discuss wicca if you actually knew about it.
Or perhaps you turned it off because you didn't want to hear about a witch getting saved? What I said about the Wiccan rede is right, but I wouldn't expect a witch to see it like that, because they are not walking in the light of God's word but in darkness. Man/woman without Christ is ruled by the sin nature, and the sin nature is not a good judge of what is harmful.
I personally don't care to listen to ignorant people talk about things that they do not understand. If some people who practice the wiccan faith convert to Christianity, well goo d for them. They've found a path that's right for them. Actually try reading something on other religions nit written by Christians so you can remove the bias against it. That's what historians do when studying the past (or at least supposed to do). Continued
As for the Rede, what you said is not right and that matters a lot. That would be like myself or anyone else for that matter taking the words you live by and using them to promote hate and fear of your religion. Doesn't sound very kind does it? Try to learn about other religions before making videos about them.
I explained that in my very first comment on this video, just go up to that one and you'll see. You said that you god hates whatever you however many times you like. However, that is not an effective argument when discussing your religion to somebody who follows a different one. Brightest Blessings
I had already addressed that. The reason I said that God hates witchcraft (which He does, Deut 18:10-12) is because you said I was using the words you live by to promote hate and fear of your religion. Witchcraft is detestable to God and it does bring judgment on a land, so therefore it is right for those who are on the side of God to hate witchcraft too.
You did not clearly address it. It appeared to be YOUR words not the words of the diety that you follow. Besides as I said above throwing Bible quotes at me or others is not the best approach because they don't believe in your god. Besides if bible verses were what was needed to turn me for my beliefs I never would have left Christianity in the first place. Please try to understand that everyone has the right to believe in what they choose. That gives you the right to be a Christian (Cont.)
and myself and others the right to follow other religions. I'm sorry telling people that others who follow certain religions are evil causes fear, hate, and misunderstanding. Further more its just incorrect. These type of ideas, not only from Christians but many others as well, is how so many of the tragedies of the world have occurred.
Way off, Wicca nothing to do with the devil. You need to open your mind a bit Wicca is one of the oldest religions.
XHaileyXkoalaX 2 months ago
"After the woman died she went straight to hell. She asked Satan for his promises. By deceit, she had gotten him many souls but at the last, Satan had laughed and scorned her. He said, 'I deceived you and used you all those years'. Flesh was being ripped from her bones. Satan said, you served me well. You brought me more than 500 souls, You are going to serve me here also". The woman screamed in pain as the flesh was ripped from her bones by demons. Jesus said, "I came to save all men!
A2P86 5 months ago
You know if you interprate the blble without knowing that God is supulast to be the good guy he doesn't seem like it. When I read the bible he just seemed to me like a jelious dictator who was enslaving all the people.
I don't care if the things I believe in are against your moral values, some of the things you believe in are against my moral values. i don't try and convert you, show the same respect
pansarblack 6 months ago
@pansarblack Hi there. It is the devil who enslaves people, him and their own sin. Jesus died to set people free and He is doing it all over the world even today. God is a God of love AND justice. He demonstrated great love in sending Jesus to die for our sins, but for those who reject Him there is certain judgement to come. It would not be an act of love to withhold the gospel from witches, they need it just as much as anyone else (if not more).
SarahSLH 6 months ago
@SarahSLH There is a big difference from 'withholding' and not shoving it down our throats. Would it surprise you to know that I am a Wiccan and own a copy of your bible? I bare no grudge against your religion I simply don't believe it is correct. I have friends who are Christian and we respect eachothers believes, they ask me questions about my faith and I ask questions about theirs and NEVER have they attempted to change my view. Everyone knows about Christianity, so stop shoving it at us.
pansarblack 6 months ago
These people are disgusting. Maybe THEY should be burned at the stake. Then they'll see what the receiving end of hatred looks like.
baconpatrol1 1 year ago
@baconpatrol1 You think Christians don't know anything about being on the receiving end of hatred? It is God who condemns witchcraft, those who stand by His view of it are just in agreement with Him. Those who practice it are in rebellion against God and are therefore rejecting His way including the offer of salvation through Jesus in favour of following satan.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH
Not in the same context in which they have constantly exerted. Absolutely not. Don't confuse hatred for irratation, you deserve EVERY bit of criticism you recieve. Historically, the very doctrines you base your life off of have enslaved millions, killed millions , and corrupted and indoctrinated millions of CHILDREN for centuries. The new world doesn't have any room for the greedy christian agenda, and whether you acknowledge it or not, your religion is falling to pieces. It is dying
baconpatrol1 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Question: are we Wiccans bothering anyone? No. We practice silently and quietly. You will never see us protesting outside over your churches. If anyone's bothering or disturbing the peace it is you! Leave us alone. My Goddess is so loving that if we do wrong in this lifetime we will be reincarnated to try again and learn from our mistakes. Your 'loving' Jesus will just send you to hell. I hope you find the Goddess love in your next lifetime. Blessed Be (Note see how civil we can be?)
eliask93 1 year ago
@eliask93 Hi there.
1) Jesus won't send me to hell because I have put my faith in Him and what He did for me on the cross so I am saved. This is true of all born again Christians.
2) Your loving goddess is a satanic deception, there is no such thing as reincarnation.
'Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,' Hebrews 9:27
Also, anyone practicing witchcraft is affecting those around them, whether they mean to or not by calling upon demonic powers.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears." Proverbs 26:17.
Don't avoid the question! Are we wiccans harming you?
eliask93 1 year ago
@eliask93 Wiccans are harming others, yes. They are unwittingly harming themselves too. I looked at your profile, if my son (who is only a couple of years older than you) had got into this dark stuff I would be really concerned, how did you get drawn into witchcraft?
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH My mother, my brother, and my grandmother.
eliask93 1 year ago
@eliask93 So Wicca has always been part of your life then?
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH No. We played the whole born again Christian thing for a while but we realized that Christianity is based on fear and that a very unhealthy based religion.
eliask93 1 year ago
@eliask93 Hi there. Christianity isn't a game that you play, or at least it shouldn't be. Genuine Christianity is when a person repents of their sin, invites Jesus Christ to be their personal Saviour and begins a new life. That life is one of fellowship with Him, and other believers, reading of the word, daily prayer, ministry, the work of the Holy Spirit in us etc, it is a personal relationship with our Creator who has a plan for us and a purpose. Did you ever have that?
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Your religion is a cult. It brainwashes innocent children into being afraid of burning in Hell so they think that if they accept Jesus as their Saviour they will go to heaven. You tell your children not to be afraid of monsters under their beds yet poison their minds with this garbage. It's sick and is a form of child abuse. You should be ashamed of yourself, not only for insulting me but every other Wiccan. We have never harmed you and never will. Unlike you who burned us for years.
eliask93 1 year ago 2
@SarahSLH Sounds like you have already found hell.
MrTadblack 8 months ago
@MrTadblack How so?
SarahSLH 8 months ago
@SarahSLH Because you see yourself as surrounded by evil (the "broad road") you live in a prison of your own making.
MrTadblack 6 months ago
@MrTadblack I don't live in a prison at all, I live in the freedom that comes through receving Jesus Christ. All outside of Christ are on the broad road, bound for hell, I am not. There is much evil in this world, the human race is fallen, the good news is that Jesus Christ died to redeem us and reconcile us to God, but the choice is ours. We can choose to remain in darkness if we want to. The problem is, if we live without Christ we will die without Him, and then we are lost for eternity.
SarahSLH 6 months ago
@SarahSLH I hope your path brings you the peace that my path has brought me. I ask only that you respect that my path is mine to to walk, preferably without your commentary. But if you harm none, do as you will. Blessed Be.
MrTadblack 5 months ago
@MrTadblack Ultimately the path of witchcraft won't bring you any peace, the Bible says "There is no peace, says the Lord, for the wicked." Isaiah 48:22. All outside of Christ as classed as lawbreakers and to practice witchcraft is further rebellion against God. This path will lead you to eternal torment if you continue to walk on it, not to a place of peace. But yes, the decision is yours.
SarahSLH 5 months ago
@SarahSLH We are not going to agree on religion but regardless of the words and rituals we use in worship we have a primary duty to treat each other with respect. The Golden Rule is the Golden Rule whether we talk of the Rede and the Rule of Three or whether we harken back to the fact that as we do unto the least, we do unto Him. I get your need to "spread the good news" and I want to say thank you for taking "no" for an answer.
MrTadblack 5 months ago
@MrTadblack It isn't me you are saying no to. Say it to Jesus, Jesus Christ who was flogged, mocked and crucified for your sin. Tell Jesus who is your only hope of escaping an eternity in hell that your answer is no. Me? I am just a messenger who has experienced His saving grace and gratefully received His healing and transforming power in my life.
SarahSLH 5 months ago
@MrTadblack I also want to say to you that I became a Christian at the age of 23, I haven't been sheltered from life and I know people have many beliefs, coping mechanisms and things they cling to for comfort. But Christianity isn't a 'religion I chose' Jesus is a person who transformed my life. When you are into witchcraft you are under the control of the devil in a serious way, but you can get free, if you want to, feel free to contact me and we will pray for you.
SarahSLH 5 months ago
Why do Christians feel the need to manipulate people from their faiths? People know what is in their heart, and if they feel that Wicca or Asatru is right for them, then they should be free to follow it without molestation.
Hail the gods and goddesses!
MrROTCcadet 1 year ago
@MrROTCcadet People don't always realise what is in their heart. An unsaved person has a sinful heart that can be led astray and deceived by sinful desires. You are free to follow your own path, but as Christians know where that path will lead they warn you out of love.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Christians do not the slightest clue about where anyone's path will take them. No Christian has any right nor any power over our fates or destines. Neither does their "savior" or their god. We are free from the moment our souls were crafted. There is no need for salvation. All we need are to live our lives with courage and honor, and the gods will see we are taken care of when we pass into the next world. Honor is the only thing to live by.
MrROTCcadet 1 year ago
@MrROTCcadet It is God who created us and to Him we will ultimately have to answer. We can know where our paths will take us because the Bible is clear, those who die without Jesus will go to hell, those who die knowing Him will go to heaven. There is a broad road and a narrow road, one leads to death, the other to life.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
So your pushing scripture but have you read the whole bible? There are some serious moral issues with your God and many contradictions throughout the bible. Many people who become atheist become atheists because they read the bible to try to become better christians. Us Atheists are basing our beliefs on evidence and not faith and we have asked the forbidden questions like prove the existance of God and nobody or no thing has answered it with the proper evidence. Show evidence and we change.
chevroletgt 1 year ago
all an occult bases? And Christianity isn't a cult? The wiccan rede is not open ended it is meant to make you think before you act and every action has a natural consequence. There is also the 3 fold law "for that wit you put out will come back 3 fold" so there is consequence for negative actions just like in nature. Don't knock something you havn't researched in depth. I studied for 10 years and know what its about same goes for Abrahamic religions.
chevroletgt 1 year ago
@SarahSLH yes, I know. It's just when people make someone appear to be the ultimate antagonist of their beliefs, when really we don't want to be anyone's badguys, it gives the illusion we ARE evil. it just gets old, all the accusations of doing things we know we aren't doing and praising & obeying things we don't even believe exist. So, when people say "you're praising Satan," it ultimately ties witchcraft with christianity, but I don't want to be a part of Christianity.
TheManAloneChannel 1 year ago
Is it me, or do these people have no where to talk? One of them spent a bit of time on an online Pagan site. Oh, ok, NOW they're right.
Look, I like Christianity. I like their teachings and life lessons, and Jesus is the type of person everyone should strive to be, but stop! Let us do our thing, u can do your thing. If u want to believe we're worshiping ur devil, go 4 it, but don't drag isinto your territory. We don't want to b forced into ur beliefs.
TheManAloneChannel 1 year ago
@TheManAloneChannel No one is forcing you to do anything, God gave you freewill.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH On the contrary someone is forcing them or at least was. Your pastor appeared to be listing all of those witch trials and executions as a testament of pride. Those were horrible deplorable acts of prejudice and discrimination only second to the holocaust. How do you feel about people taking your literal sense of "God's Law" and enforcing it through fear mongering and sick punishments? Not very peaceful.
Also, I'm sorry your Lord is so easily offended to destroy in a temper tantrum.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow Witchcraft was illegal and still is in God's eyes (although sinful man has legalised it). But man cannot overrule God, there is judgment awaiting those who continue to practice this evil instead of repenting and coming to Jesus to save them and set them free.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH So you're telling me you're not only okay with what people did to hunt and persecute witches but that you would be all right with that kind of discrimination and butchering now too? I am appalled by your lack of compassion that most Christians tend to lay claim too. Thank goodness I don't live in a nation that kills over ideologies and religious differences.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow What I actually said was that witchcraft should never have been legalised. Not only does it wreck the life of the person involved in it but the lives of those around them too. Genuine Christian compassion doesn't accept witchcraft (so as not to offend witches) it warns them that they are heading for the lake of fire and need to run from the occult and receive Jesus instead. With regards to your suggestion of violence the battle is not physical but spiritual. Ephesians 6:10-18.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH No, when you outlaw a religious practice and proclaim consequences for their worship you are physically battling them. What would happen in a world ruled by your religious law? If someone were practicing a condemned prayer how would you enforce that law? Would you have those people fined? Shackled? Beaten? Executed? When you prohibit something there must be a consequence so what is your consequence? Surely something physical in nature or it's not really illegal.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow It is God Almighty who has condemned witchcraft, man's views are insignificent compared to His. Participating in witchcraft is rebellion against your Creator and has consequences. Does man have the right to tell God He is wrong? Without the love of God the entire human race would be destined for a Christless eternity in hell, as it is there is a chance, but we have to do it God's way and repent, turn from sin and receive Jesus.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Then leave it to God and his mysterious ways of guidance. You have no right as a lowly human to dictate God's way and force it on others. You desire for enforcing your decree on pagans is cruel and man-made punishment. You can't cop out and claim your just being an instrument of God when you take your hand and force someone to not practice their religion through punishment. That's you, not God, making them pay fines, imprisoning, and putting them to death. Stop avoiding the question.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow I am not avoiding anything, but you are putting words in my mouth. No one is forcing you to do anything, you have freewill.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Yes but what good is freewill when people are oppressed by a theocracy that outlaws and punishes a religious practice? Someone was obviously forcing those witches in the past. If you're saying that I am putting words in your mouth then please show me otherwise and tell me how you don't agree with the approach of the witch trials.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
@DamienZshadow I will not support anyone in their bid to freely practice what is an abomination to God and therefore bring judgement on the land. Witchcraft is sin and living this way has consequences, not just for the individuals but for their families, friends and those around them. If you invite the devil into your home you can't really complain when he begins to make himself at home.
SarahSLH 1 year ago
@SarahSLH Okay so you support the suppression of the freedom of a particular religion. You claim this religion brings harm but if you want to convince a parliament or congress to enact this law, you'll need evidence. Please provide a study that showed that people living within a 5 mile radius of a witch somehow experience a poorer quality of life. Also, I'm sorry but your God sure sounds like a big mean jerk if he's going to punish everyone else for someone's actions.
DamienZshadow 1 year ago
You have that famous "Do not judge so that you will not be judged." verse. I'll admit it doesn't mean that you can't judge someone for being critical. But what it DOES mean is that you are not to have, a "censorious spirit" whereby you squelch the spirit of another or become critical of others in order to lift your self higher. If you do not know what censorious means, look it up because that is what I feel you fall directly under. Censoring others spiritual choices and needs.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
No it doesn't mean that at all. You are misusing the word of God, like the devil did when he tried to tempt Jesus to sin in the wilderness. Scripture repeatedly warns us to make the distinction between right and wrong, for this we must make judgements. The verse you quoted (back in context) is about hypocritically (or self-righteously) judging others, it is NOT about accepting falsehood. And God has already made a judgement about witchcraft see Deut 18:10-12.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
So are you saying comparatively I am like the devil? HA!
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
Twisting Scripture is what he does yes. Regarding being like the devil? The Bible actually says that those who do evil are the children of the devil, and that those outside of Christ are controlled by him.
Here are the references for that.
John 8:44, Eph 2:1-4.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Wow, your very judgemental for so called Christians. Why do you feel the need to be so insulting? Treat others as you would be treated yourself, understand that there are other religions in this world, which is a beautiful thing. God gave us free will. It doesn't seem you are worried about them, you are worried about yourselves. I personally think you are pathetic, your ye olde Christian views are outdated, even for other Christians.
EllieMarianna 2 years ago
Hi there. False religon is not a beautiful thing, nor is witchcraft, both are deceptions which can only lead people away from the gospel of Jesus Christ which is the power of God for salvation. See Romans 1:16. As you say, God gave us freewill, but that doesn't mean we are not held accountable for how we use it!
SarahSLH 2 years ago
This would be the person traveling on a path staring at the ground. I do not know you, but I am fairly certain you have never become part of other religions. More so have you ever actually become apart of the religions you are tearing into, I doubt it. You may hold your tongue if you actually walked in the shoes of the people you insult and look down upon.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
EllieMarianna don't take offence ,cause he is against himself and appeased at what he believe.satan is an accuser and he comes to kill , steal and destroy. For God sent not his Son into the world to c ondemn the world . But that the world through him might be saved.You cannot mistaken a TRUE CHRIST LIKE INDIVIDUAL AS A SATANIST, because they are truly a child of GOD.
hapi2bee 2 years ago
You christian folk have got it wrong. Wicca is a nature based religion intended to help people survive. We use magic to balance in harmony with nature, what is so wrong about that? Why do you christians say were so bad if you have no idea about our faith? The bible says thou shall not kill, then what happened 300 years ago? What have we done, 300 years today, and we still get this crap? Sinners?
Against god, why? Please, leave our faith alone, we don't condemn your faith evil, why ours?
ToeiTails 2 years ago
Romans 1 warns about worshipping the creation rather than the Creator, it is idolatry. Furthermore the use of magic (Satanic powers) is also forbidden by the Creator, it is detestable to Him, see Deut 18:10-12. Don't use history to try and justify what is evil, come out into the light and allow the Spirit of God to show you the evil you are involved in, let Him shine His light in the darkness and lead you to repentance.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
How can one practice "Satanic powers" if they do not believe in Satan? What of the use of magic before Christianity? How is that Satanic when he hadn't been invented yet?
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
Of course you are going to get a hostile reaction, you go to another religions forum and start discussing Christianity. You should know going in there as a Christian that there is plenty of bad blood between the two religions. While not an excuse is the truth, some subscribe to this while others do not... You need to be open minded enough to realize this and prepare to get flak.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
So the Christian god dislikes Witches or anything the like, this is something I do not get. You follow the word and turn your head up to those people, but what of your family? You two sitting there have to realize that your family was Pagan. Christianity is a middle eastern religion, you two sure do not look middle eastern. You have adapted your life around the religion due to conversion and domination over the years. But the UK specifically was born on Paganism.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
You follow your book as if it were the words of your God. How is it the words of your God when it was written solely by man? What that God speaks through these men to write his words? Well then give some parchment and a pen to Shirley Phelps so she can clarify some words of God. If you don't know who this nut is search her on YOUTUBE.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
To each his/her own, but don't come on here thinking that you are any better. David your smug way of saying ...Pagan or whatever. at 4:20 has a certain tone to it don't you think? Before you rise your flag of self righteousness you might want to see how you back hand your roots and family prior to the Christian conversion which may have claimed the life of your family members.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
I am prepared for flak whenever I go into the devils camp with the light of God's word. However the gospel is for all, and that includes Pagans.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
What an enlightening response. By the way, Satan/Devil (In your depiction) is purely Christian. To be a Satanist you need to be Christian, I am of Celtic Pagan decent which does not have any concept of Jesus in it just as it doesn't have any concept of Satan in it. So to go into "The Devils Camp" if you are not going into a Satanist group then you are wrong. Typically the grouping of Pagans I know do not like Satanists because we don't believe in Christianity which go hand in hand with Satan.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
Satan is certainly not Christian, nor could he ever be so. In the same way Satanism is in direct opposition to Christianity, a Christian cannot be a Satanist and vice versa. The devil's camp refers to far more than groups of Satanists, but all those who live under his control rather than God's. The use of witchcraft is Satanic, as the power used is his.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
So you mean to tell me Satan is Buddha, or Zues or Thor (You get my picture). Despite your clouded views of other religions they don't associate with Satan because Satan has nothing to do with any other religion other than Christianity. If you read other writings from other religions you would know this. So with that being said, the only way to be a Satanist is to be a Christian seeing as a Christian is the only one that writes/speaks of it. A Satanist recognizes Jesus and your God.Hand and hand
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
SarahSLH you are certainly right The Bible say's in Deutronomy 18:10
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass throught the fire or that useth divination or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch.
To God be the glory! And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth VOILENCE, AND THE VIOLENT TAKE IT BY FORCE.! Mat,11:12
You are under Spiritual Warfare and your battle is WON!
hapi2bee 2 years ago
@SarahSLH Are you hearing what you're saying? It has frequently been said that the gods of an
old religion become the devils of a new. This was certainly the case here. The
God of the Old Religion was a horned god. So, apparently, was the
Christian's Devil. Obviously then, reasoned the Church, the pagans were
Devil worshipers! You fail.
KinguNoKin 2 years ago
The God of creation has always existed, He is eternal, and Pagans have always worshipped the devil.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Ok. I am a witch, I do nothing evil, I dont hurt people, I dont put spells on people. As long as you harm none do as you will means don't harm anyone, be responsible for yourself and others.
The witch trials - many women were innocent, they had done nothing wrong and yet died. It's disrespectful to speak about them like that.
If God created everything, he created Wicca. Are you calling me evil? There isn't a Devil, its a Christian creation. Quit with the persecution.
EllieMarianna 2 years ago
finaly a sensible comment. the truth is that good and evil are human concepts. even if there book of magics is true a major part of the witch trials were done from the basis of the bible "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live".
wait that cant be correct what was the important commandment thing that was supposedly written on a big stone tablet something about "you shalt not kill" just more epic.
sean14916 2 years ago
God didn't create Wicca (witchcraft), He condemned it and He still does. Just because witches are not struck dead instantly by the Almighty doesn't mean He doesn't mind it or even approves. God in His love gives people time to repent, but if they do not they will reap the consequences of their sin.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
The bible which was written by man. Seeing as man is "foulable" what makes you think that the bible wasn't altered or had additions made by the biased opinions of those who actually wrote it and rewrote it? God didn't create your book lady, people did. There are so many renditions of that thing, how do you tell which one is right? What would you believe if they unearthed the first book and it said love thy neighbor be it pagan or hindu? How do you think you would fair in the eye's of your god?
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
Wicca is just another religion amongst others!! Let them be and the only reason you may have found wiccans that may have been rude towards you is because they are tired of people trying to prove that what they believe in what they connect with in life is wrong. Is it rite for someone to take away what they hold dear to them!?
BridgetteDH 2 years ago
If you are proving people wrong by using the bible then well you are not using proper evidence to do so. The bible was written hundreds of years after Christ died and the bible was well in fact written by men! The bible also has years missing from it as well. Science today also contradicts and proves parts of the bible wrong.
BridgetteDH 2 years ago
The Bible was not written at one time, the first five books were written by Moses! Yes the Bible was written down by men but they were moved by the Holy Spirit to do so.
2 Peter 1:21
For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
"Yes the Bible was written down by men but they were moved by the Holy Spirit to do so."
Exactly my point, how does someone say "God was/is speaking to them" but you see a bum on the corner on the street that says God is speaking to him/her and they are deemed crazy. Seriously, look up Shirley Phelps. She is a christian who believes God speaks to her, yet most Christians believe she's crazy. Even if God is or did speak to her, she clearly has her own opinions wrapped up into her words.
WorldTreeMonkey 2 years ago
Im sorry Im Christians and i believe that if you dont agree with a religion then you shouldnt spout about how bad it is or how you dont agree with it!
BridgetteDH 2 years ago
Well, they didn't go on a Christian website and start telling the people there about the Goddess. So of course they were hostile.
Those who cast spells with a harmful intent are not Wiccans, but fools and will see the results in their own lives.
What Christians don't get is that Wiccans don't give a damn about what the Bible says, because they believe that it's a book made up by people for their own agendas.
zeldaofarel 2 years ago 6
So, it sounds like you'd like to go back to the good ole days when you can execute witches and not be bothered by them. While we haven't actually be persecuted much, most of us were treated very poorly by Christians at one time in their lives. Sounds like also you think we are all evil regardless of whether we have done evil things or good things.
You are an example of why I am not a Christian.
DancingRabbit52 2 years ago
repent from what? being human? stop making such a fool of yourself.i mean all people who believe in other gods then you do is a pagan and needs god.i think you need god more then we do because you always come up with a book written by men.dont get me wrong i have some christian friends and we get allong fine i wish that could always be that way.
witchcerridwen 2 years ago
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BridgetteDH 2 years ago
ok first of all when i said we came before god...i meant that pagans were worshiping this land way before the bible was invented and before the christians started pointing their finger.
dont you see that if u just kept your mouth shut and read you bible ( which was written by man)
then there wouldnt be that much hurt in this world and i agree with riva witch the bible. the bible has many versus telling to kill and slay and all that.
aw297 2 years ago
Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance 0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
RivaWitch 2 years ago
when we hear gods word, its you saying it, can't he talk for himself?.
bilboinc 2 years ago
Born again Christians have a personal relationship with God, therefore they are able to hear Him and proclaim what He has said. We also have the Holy Spirit within who can speak to people through us.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
how did you "hear him" if it was not with your ears it was not hearing, unless we change what "to hear" means, the holy spirit speaks through you? again you claim a supernatural being is speaking, but its you saying it.
bilboinc 2 years ago
look lady just because your so called " bible " says divination is wrong doent mean anything and we dont believe in the devil you are the most horrible people on earth we dont want to hear jesus this and that we want our peace we were around before god anyway so stop trying to domiate the world and open up your eyes. do you even realize what you people have done to pagans over the years you need to just leave u be stop trying to "save us" from damnation. satan is bullshit .....write me for more.
aw297 2 years ago 5
Hi there. No one was around before God, He is eternal, the Creator, the great I AM. People are fallible human beings with a fallen sinful nature that need a Saviour. JESUS CHRIST is that Saviour for all who will repent of their sin (that includes witchcraft) and ask Him to come into their lives as their personal Lord and Saviour. Divination is wrong. Many choose to ignore God's word but that doesn't make it obsolete, it just highlights the rebellion in sinful man/woman and their lost state.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
When you listed all the crimes the christians commited against witches you forgot to apoligise for all those acts and ask for forgiveness on behalf of those murders. Also you're hypocrites, Christians believe they can be forgiven for "sins" even if you never get the victim's forgiveness. You refuse to take responsiblity for your actions. You believe that its ok to do evil because your "Lord" will forgive you. We take responsibility for our actions and reject evil (that includes your devil).
billjohn69 2 years ago
In the video David was speaking briefly about legal justice carried out against witches to give some background of witches and witchcraft in this country. He was not implicating Christians with the arrest and trial of witches. So Christians don't have to apologise for anything.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
excuse me!!!!!! do you know of the torture that witches and even normal people went through because of your out of control faith ...its wrong
aw297 2 years ago
I refer you back to my previous comment on this.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
2 Kings 6:28-29 And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.
RivaWitch 2 years ago
I don't think believing that they are forgiven for their sins by god is hypocritical. Their are people out there who are not in a position to forgive for various reasons. Also part of asking for forgiveness either from a deity or person or group is recognizing wronghood. Also crimes that Christians committed against witches or any other group in the past can't be undone. For the most part the witch trials or executions are acknowledged and admitted to be wrong. (Cont.'d)
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Beyond that what do you want them to do? It is a better use of time to try to break stereotypes and prejudices surrounding various groups of people in order to make a better future. As well people have killed Christians and persecuted them as well, which was just as wrong as what they have done to others. Lastly, your average Christian (from my understanding) don't use their beliefs to do evil. There are people out there who use religion to their gain, but not all. Brightest Blessings
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
I disagree. Even if a person relises what they have done is wrong that does not undo the harm that they caused. Therefore the idea of people (such as pedos/rapists/nazis/etc) getting off scot free with their crimes just because they believe in a certain man/god is sicking. This is the main principle of Christianity, that everyone can be forgiven for any crime so long as they believe in Jesus! Anyone who believes such a concept is mentally sick as far as I'm concerned.
May the Light guide all.
billjohn69 2 years ago
I completely understand that view. I do believe that people need to be held accountable for what they do even if they believe that god or whatever deity has forgiven them. However, asking for forgiveness means recognizing wronghood, which I personally feel is a step towards preventing it from occurring again. You are right, the harm cannot be undone and for some cannot be fully healed. I fully agree that people should be held accountable for what they have done. Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Forgiveness and accountability are not mutually exclusive. You can forgive a person for doing something but still hold them accountable for what they have done. For example if someone where to steal from you could forgive them and still charge them with theft in a court of law. That doesn't mean that they were not forgiven and the forgiveness does not prevent them from receiving some sort of reprecussion. I hope that helps explain what I said in my originial comment. Brightest Blessings
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
That is why it is so important that the whole gospel message is preached, not just the bit about what you can have!! The command to REPENT should never be sidelined. God's forgiveness and all that He offers is conditional that we first genuinely repent .
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Repenting does not undo the damage nor change the feelings of the victims of an action. First a person should repent/apologise then accept a punishment for their evil/wrong/harmful action(s), then forgiveness should be forgiven but only by the victim. No god/deity stands for all humanity and as such no god/deity can forgive all. I.E. if someone steals from you, your god/diety is not the victim, therefore he/she/they can't give forgiveness. Only you can forgive someone who wrongs you.
billjohn69 2 years ago
But witches need to repent because witchcraft is sin. Do not try to excuse this sin by blaming the entire born again church for a flawed justice system from the past. It may suit witches to play the persecution card here, however true Christians suffered greatly as did those wrongly accused of witchcraft. Although witchcraft is no longer against the law of the land it is still against God's law and there will be no witches in heaven.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Most people play the persecution card when it suits them, even you did in your comment. Witches are good people like those of any other religion. Please consider learning about this and other religions from sources that are either unbiased or balance it with sources from both sides before you say things against them. I think it is fair to remind Christians and other people of what they have done, just as it is fair to offer them forgiveness for it. Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
I say this because if we forget past wrongs then we do not strive to prevent them from happening again or similar wrongs from happening. Brightest Blessings
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Witchcraft is a sin against God and it brings judgement on a land.
See Deuteronomy 18:10-12
Witches are not good people they are rebelling against God by doing what he has forbidden in His word. They are sinning in a hideous way. It is only sinful man who has legalised it, God still detests it.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
I'm sorry that you view people of this religion in such a way. However people of religions other than Christainity are good people. To say otherwise based on their religion rather than actually knowing the person would be like if I said to you that because of all the people that Christians burned at the stake and killed through other means and since you are Christian then you must be a killer and a bad person. Which is an illogical assumption. Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
An assumption like this is harmful to both parties involved. It is harmful to the victim of those assumptions because of the negativity that it creates towards them. It is also harmful to the person/people who think those things because it prevents them from getting to know the person and allows them to continue onwards in ignorance of people who are different. Brightest Blessings
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
MY ANSWER:
BOO!
NilDesperandum1998 2 years ago
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BridgetteDH 2 years ago
Its so wonderful that we are walking in the light of God as christians and the glory of God is within us if we belong to Him. Praise Jesus!
pudster456 2 years ago
stop saying witches where executed most where just innocent unlucky unjustly accused victims of Cristian hysteria and Mathew Hopkins was a power hungry murderer. you two are so ignorant you are ridiculous the only evil spirit is the one that affects Christians his name is Jesus sent to cause war and devide the people of course people became cristian and left the old natural religions they where burned or hanged if they didn't you brain washed fools i so pity you
rumplestilskint67 2 years ago 2
The human beings who wrote the Bible labelled competing religions as "witchcraft" in order to gather more followers. Later, Christianity absorbed many pagan traits in order to gain converts -- the pagan ceremony of "Saturnalia" became Christmas. And do you really think that rabbits and eggs have anything to do with Easter? It's a spring fertility ritual!
Hypocrites.
discord20 2 years ago 3
Easter to the Christian is a celebration of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, God's plan of salvation for mankind and His victory over death and the devil. Easter eggs are the symbol of new life in Christ. I know pagans have other ideas but for us, that is Easter. Christmas is a celebration of the incarnation, the beginning of God's plan of salvation. Being celebrated at this time it is a victory over paganism! Witchcraft is the name given to witchcraft! God detests it and judges it.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Discord20 is accurrate, the word Easter is even derived from the Goddess Ostara, who was the goddess of fertility. The celebration of Christmas on Dec 25 designated as Christmas to Pope Julius I, sometime in the 4th century A.D. It was set to coincide with the Roman Winter Festivals. It's certain that Jesus ''wasn't'' born on December 25. In fact, the details in the Bible clearly point to his being born in the spring. (Continued)
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Placing the holiday of December 25 was a direct attempt to co-opt solstice traditions.
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
To us it is a victory over Paganism, celebrating the birth of Jesus at this time. We do have videos on Christmas if you want to know more about how we view this holiday or discuss it further.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
I do know how the holiday is viewed by Christians (I have Christian friends and I studied it myself), thanks for the offer though. The point of my earlier comment was that the designation of Christmas on Dec 25. was pointing out that it was due to the fact that other religions celebrated a festival on that day, so the Church shifted their holiday to match it. This was a method of appearing to be not so foreign from those they were trying to convert. (Cont.'d)
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Same idea as the use of the sacred sites of pagans in Britain as discussed by Bede in his Eccleissastical (sp) History of the English People
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
It also says in the bible It is OK to enslave your daughters and murder your children.
You have victory over Paganism. People are leaving because too much blood was shed over Xiananity.
RivaWitch 2 years ago
The Bible does not condone murder, in fact one of the ten commandments is "You shall not murder". The conditions re: slavery were set out for the purpose of preventing the mistreatment of slaves/servants not to encourage the practice.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Infanticide:
1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.
Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be dashed upon the rocks.
RivaWitch 2 years ago
Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
RivaWitch 2 years ago
don;t forget Joshua 6:21: They exterminated everything in the city with the sword : man and woman , young and old.
bilboinc 2 years ago
what will you do if you die and realise your when i die which is going to be soon i gues if im wrong i will go to hell happily cos i admit responsability for my earthly doings unlike cristians you just say sorry for that murder and alls forgiven cos i turned to christ duh do you see somthing wrong here
rumplestilskint67 2 years ago
the word witch craft derives from wish craft the art of deriving change through the force of ones own will i hope your church doesnt let the children blow out birthday candles and make a wish cos thats witch craft which im sure you already knew being the smart informed cristian you are
rumplestilskint67 2 years ago
I WILL TURN INTO A SUPER SAYAIN
BlairExodus99 2 years ago
complaining about paganism is also the ridicule and dishonor of "ki" or "chi"inner energy that lies within the human body, you harness and channel ki to create elements such as fire
BlairExodus99 2 years ago
'chi' energy does not lie within the human body, it is all to do with the occult.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
no it doesn't science and oddly enough, buddhism has proved humans are capable of such powers, it isn't through occult the enzymes and proteins in your body produce energy to give you the ability to move, humans are also created from a star in result of the big bang, that energy is vast and powerful, eventually maybe humans can harness the power and use it for the better good of humanity
BlairExodus99 2 years ago
Doctrines built on error (i.e. the big bang theory) can never lead people to the truth. If people would look into the Bible for their knowledge they would be a lot wiser!
SarahSLH 2 years ago
i have wicca blood in me with it i will use the powers to become the protector of the universe,the answer for all living things that cry out for peace,the protector of the innocent, the light in the darkness,truth,ally to good, nightmare to jesus
I AM A SUPER WICCAN
BlairExodus99 2 years ago
Wicca is just witchcraft and it will keep those who practice it out of heaven.
Galatians 5:19-21
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and WITCHCRAFT; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
again i want to be the protector of the universe it is a dream i want to be reality, religion is evil and only the human connection to the universe and spirituality within the souls of stars used to create us
BlairExodus99 2 years ago
these are all words quoted from bible speak debauchery for gds sake that just doesn't happen and drunkennes its your religion that dishes out wine and pretends its blood your drinking disgusting seudo vampirism we prefer fruit juice in our chalice cos its wholesome and a gift from the great earth mother
rumplestilskint67 2 years ago 2
I am Wiccan
and there is more to light and dark
depends on your views and if you are good or bad, if you do good things or bad
jackswinney123 2 years ago 9
Hi jackswinney123. Nothing accomplished through witchcraft is TRULY good, because the power used is satanic. The devil can masquerade as an angel of light, 2 Cor 11:14-15, but he is still evil.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
and he could also have been the instigator of the wholes jesus fiasco how did mary know it was a good force that was using her the whole bible might be a complex sceme by satan if hes as power full as you beleive he could have deluded all you bible readers for all these years did you ever think of that you may have been taken in by satan all this time that you thought you where saved
rumplestilskint67 2 years ago
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I am an Christian and I am having an extremely terrible time with witches cursing me and giving me awful dreams. They constantly communicate with me by mental communication, a form of witchcraft. The police are using withcraft in my country and the F.B.I. They are extremely harrassing me. I am uncertain as what to do about it. Please look at my videos explaining my circumstance and respond as to how I can promote my videos on youtube, so I can escape my situation.
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thisisthetruth4444 2 years ago
My advice to you. Get on prayer and declare a fast for a day or two and prayer and ask Jesus to break those chains. Bind that power in the name of Jesus Christ.
joemo7384 2 years ago
Rebuke the devil in Jesus name, if you are a born again Christian then He (God) that is in you is greater than he (Satan)that is in the world. Get under the blood of Jesus and turn their curses back on their own heads. Don't allow yourself to get scared of the devil, he should be scared of you. Realise what you have in Christ. Sometimes when we are feeling low we can start to talk as though we are defeated, instead of rising up and using what God has given us. Are you in a born again fellowship?
SarahSLH 2 years ago
i like the fact you never commented on other religions show that you are narrow minded a sheep if anything you follow one thing and belive its true what if i said i could curse you and your family right now would you belive or would you belive god is protecting you?? ps i wont curse you because im not an evil person your are far to judgemental sarah
KrustyDumbo 2 years ago 6
What do you mean I haven't commented on other religions, have you seen any of our other videos? We have covered many different subjects, beliefs etc. However this one is on witches, hence the content! With regards to my faith, yes I believe the gospel of Jesus Christ to be the only way of salvation for mankind. Witches curses have no effect on born again Christians, in fact their curses will come back on their own heads.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
BTW KrustyDumbo, the very fact that you mentioned cursing me shows that you acknowledge this power can be used for very evil purposes. Why would you want anything to do with it?
SarahSLH 2 years ago
There is a power greater than the power used in witchcraft, and that is the power of God.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
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Blegemoth 2 years ago
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SarahSLH 2 years ago
Hello,
I found this video by accident and while I didn't watch all of it I did see some problems in it. One being what you said the Wiccan rede meant, do what you think is right (paraphrasing). The harm none do what you will means that we have to look at every possible outcome of our actions and if we see that it hurts someone emotionally, mentally, or physically then we can't do it. Therefore it actually covers quite a bit of actions. Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Also I just wanted to comment on your statement that when you went onto a pagan board that they were hostile towards you. It may have been your approach or the fact that the board was a place that they could be open about their beliefs without fear of being attacked or anything like that (especially since many people do not accept this belief system). Brightest Blessings.
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Christians and Witches belong to two opposing kingdoms, the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. That is why the hostility, the darkness doesn't like the light. However Jesus commisioned His followers to go out into the world and preach the gospel, and He led me there so that is where I went. I learned a lot myself through the experience too.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
The proof that it was right for me to be there was that a witch I met there was delivered and set free, I even prayed the sinners prayer with him over im. The Lord will do that, send someone even for one person He sees will respond. It was also a training ground for me and the others, though they didn't respond at that time, may still do so because they have heard the gospel. He wasn't the only one to ask questions privately from there either.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Hi midnightmoonrise. But what (most) witches don't realise is that just by practising witchcraft they are harming people. They are bringing dark spiritual powers into their lives, homes, families, and also their neighbourhoods. Also until a person is born again their morals as to what is ok and what isn't are based on the view of this fallen world, instead of on God's word which is absolute truth. Wiccan's may genuinely believe they are helping people with this power but that doesn't make it so.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
I have to say that there does not have to be hosility between our two groups. Yes there are differences and there are some who argue against the other. Some wiccans still hold the Christians at fault for the burning times and there are Christians who believe that wiccans are evil or worshipping the devil/demons. Yes there are wiccans who convert to Christianity because that is the path for them and there are Christians who convert to wicca (like myself). Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
I don't know if you fully understand this belief system or have been given some false information by someone who may have been well meaning. I'm just guessing based off of your comments and the part of this video that I saw. If you do have questions about this belief system I am always more than happy to answer them. I wish you the brightest blessings.
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
midnightmoonrise, with respect, you would be in a better position to comment on this video if you took the time to watch it in its entirety.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
Yes, that is true though as I said before I found this video by accident and viewed it not knowing what it was actually about. The reason that I didn't finish it (though I got to under 2 minutes from the end) was because it was not researched, even the explanation of the rede was not its actual meaning. And with all due respect you would also be in a better position to discuss wicca if you actually knew about it.
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
Or perhaps you turned it off because you didn't want to hear about a witch getting saved? What I said about the Wiccan rede is right, but I wouldn't expect a witch to see it like that, because they are not walking in the light of God's word but in darkness. Man/woman without Christ is ruled by the sin nature, and the sin nature is not a good judge of what is harmful.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
I personally don't care to listen to ignorant people talk about things that they do not understand. If some people who practice the wiccan faith convert to Christianity, well goo d for them. They've found a path that's right for them. Actually try reading something on other religions nit written by Christians so you can remove the bias against it. That's what historians do when studying the past (or at least supposed to do). Continued
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
As for the Rede, what you said is not right and that matters a lot. That would be like myself or anyone else for that matter taking the words you live by and using them to promote hate and fear of your religion. Doesn't sound very kind does it? Try to learn about other religions before making videos about them.
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
In what way was what I said not right? BTW God hates witchcraft.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
I explained that in my very first comment on this video, just go up to that one and you'll see. You said that you god hates whatever you however many times you like. However, that is not an effective argument when discussing your religion to somebody who follows a different one. Brightest Blessings
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
I had already addressed that. The reason I said that God hates witchcraft (which He does, Deut 18:10-12) is because you said I was using the words you live by to promote hate and fear of your religion. Witchcraft is detestable to God and it does bring judgment on a land, so therefore it is right for those who are on the side of God to hate witchcraft too.
SarahSLH 2 years ago
You did not clearly address it. It appeared to be YOUR words not the words of the diety that you follow. Besides as I said above throwing Bible quotes at me or others is not the best approach because they don't believe in your god. Besides if bible verses were what was needed to turn me for my beliefs I never would have left Christianity in the first place. Please try to understand that everyone has the right to believe in what they choose. That gives you the right to be a Christian (Cont.)
midnightmoonrise 2 years ago
and myself and others the right to follow other religions. I'm sorry telling people that others who follow certain religions are evil causes fear, hate, and misunderstanding. Further more its just incorrect. These type of ideas, not only from Christians but many others as well, is how so many of the tragedies of the world have occurred.