Excellent video! I don't know where the idea of evolution, as discussed below has come into play, in the idea of being tolerant of eachothers religion or path in life though, lol!
Wrong yet again. You're hiding behind billions of years which has been proven time after time after time to be an outrageous lie. Your problem is that you have let man deceive you into thinking you're just an animal with no purpose in life. This couldn't be further from the truth. Everything that is happening in this world was prophetically impossible up until that last couple decades. Public school text books are full of lies and people keep on believing the liars. Trust in God, not man.
All these knuckle-heads that are pushing for this religious agenda are deceiving themselves. All the other "gods" are still in their graves. Jesus has risen and is alive forever more - Amen. Jesus is the way truth and life and NO man comes unto the Father but by Him.
@obenrob God doesn't reject men, men reject God. Reject God and you reject all of Gods attributes like love, goodness, kindness and eternal security. You ought to be greatful there is a way. That "way" is Jesus.
@Ezekielthirtyeight i am an atheist now but once when i had to take the choice to either be an christian or atheist. I praid for him to send me a revelation so i would convince myself to get confirmed, but he never called...
@obenrob atheist??? That's just a foolish thing to say. You mean to tell me that you believe that nothing exploded 4.6 billion years ago and this perfect environment that we live in all happened by chance? Let me let you on a little secret.....evolution has been debunked over one hundred years ago. The only thing that is holding this theory together is tax supported money. That's it. There is not ONE SHRED of evidence that evolution is true. Darwin knew this on his death bed, check it out.
@Ezekielthirtyeight it isnt by chance we live on this planet. If the planet would not have been able to support life then there would not be anything around to think over that it was a luck that we came on this planet. It could just as well be earth that were hostile to life and venus that wasnt.
@Ezekielthirtyeight It could just as well be Venus that could support life and earth that could not. If the planet could not support life then there would be nothing around to think over that it was happend by luck. You cant hear the thoughts of animals that dosent exist
@Ezekielthirtyeight Dobble post my bad... By the way is evolution really logic. You must agree with me that even though two species are the same, then there are SMALL differences, and the one that has the best difference survives and passes it gens on. Therefor it is logic by this happening then new species with big differences would appear after thousands of years
@obenrob There are small differences, but God said, put forth after their kind. A horse and a zebra is the same kind of animal just as a eagle and a hawk is the same kind of animal. This doesn't prove evolution, this proves Gods Word never changes. This is a small factor though in the proof of God. Did you know that Peter Stoner (professor of math and science) did a research study on any one man fulfilling the OT messianic (Jesus) prophecies? 1 Trillion to the 13th power. Doesn't that ?
@Ezekielthirtyeight let me explain evolution to you: two hypothetical birds of the same specie has a beak. Though one of them has a beak that is some few mm longer. This hypothetical bird is good given when it has a longer beak, so the one of the two birds with the longest beak gets more to eat, so it gets stronger and makes more children with also slightly longer beaks. And after thousands of years a new specie has been created.
@obenrob Sorry, I didn't read through all comments. Too many of them, on a video that was in regards to a video that is about promoting tolerance of all faiths/paths.
@Ezekielthirtyeight But it can also go the other way suddenly because of a natural disaster, so it is the bird with the short beak that gets more to eat and gives birth to more children. Evolution is that simple, and it is a fact.
@obenrob You've proved absolutely nothing. It is still a bird. It is the same kind of animal. This repetition is taking you no where. This a far cry from "we came from a rock 4.6 billions of years ago." It has been proven time, after time, after time that this earth cannot be millions or billions of years old. If you want to know the answers to ALL of your questions, watch, The age of the earth, Kent Hovind - YT. All of your theories will vanish, I assure you.
@Ezekielthirtyeight yes, its still a bird, but a different kind of bird. It has changed. Not much, but it is still a change. Therefor it is able to change even more over more time and therefor it can become a whole new specie.
@Ezekielthirtyeight "we came from a rock"? Really? That is what you think evolution is? Uh, now, there has NEVER been a scientist that has stated that. Please educate yourself. You're obviously posting on here, so you have internet. It's not that hard to do a search. Here is a good article to help get you started. wiki/Human_evolution
@talenduff Yes, that is exactly what evolution in: 4.6 billion years ago NOTHING exploded, then all the matter in the universe became a perfect circle, then it rained on the ROCKS for millions of years. The water became soup...........Here we are. Gimme a break dude. Such a dumb, useless and ridiculous "theory", and the worst part of it, is that you actually believe this garbage. If I were you, I would get educated and watch debates between creationist and evolutionist. Then comment
@Ezekielthirtyeight First off, it would better if you not call someone a dude, unless you are sure of what their gender is. Second, I pointed out before, that I know perfectly well what evolution is. You are only showing your ignorance of the matter every time you post. Since you obviously believe in the story that was written in the bible, would you mind telling me what about all the fossils that prove your theory wrong, came from?
@talenduff I would love to talk about fossils. Where would you like me to start? I believe the fossils along with all the dinosaurs died in the flood roughly 4,000 years ago. I have proof for this so don't bother with the "geologic column", or "fossil record", because they just don't exist.
@Ezekielthirtyeight Hmmm, ok, so you are dismissing what several 1,000's of scientists and archeologists have proven. Sorry, I won't try to match intellect with an unarmed person. Have a great life believing in your fairytale.
@talenduff No, I'm not dismissing science. I like science. There is a lot of good science out there. What I am against is lies to support a theory. All the scientists have proven is there is a lot of bones in the dirt. You, nor anybody else can prove those bones had any babies. Go out and get a shovel full of dirt and tell me how old it is. Seriously, this "theory" has been literally thrown out by true scientists. Even darwin said before he died, "I've devoted my life to a phantasy".
wow u forgot a bunch of religions! but it doesn't matter! i think everyone who believes in a mindless bullshit religion and yes islam and christianity are my top 2 ones i dislike! you all should saves us HEATHENS the trouble of getting our revenge for your atocities on us and kill yourself so we dont have to do it for u
@fireamracing Ok so clearly you believe that Christians and Muslims are evil. But you know if you killed all christians and Muslims then you would be just as evil as you claim that they are. Thus, you are a hypocrite =\
@Hyperactiveroxerchic i never said "that if i killed muslims and christians" what i said was " you all should saves us HEATHENS the trouble of getting our revenge for your atocities on us and kill yourself so we dont have to do it for u" so before u start putting words in my mouth get your info straight first. and secondly if all ppl who worshiped religions were dead then no wars to fight, no genocide no senseless acts of violence for a god or pope or personal gain would take place.
@fireamracing Well by suggesting them to commit suicide to safe yoruself the trouble of getting "revenge" (in this case your implying violence) your making a death wish for us. And did you know that all morals originate from religions?
@Hyperactiveroxerchic well apparently you have not heard of Natural Law. and yes morals were created by men and when u have faith in something created by men then you fail.
Tolerance is not a virtue, do not tell me to tolerate something simply because it is someone's sincere beliefs. I may believe that there is a god and this god wants me to kill all children does this mean you should be tolerant of this. Religion breeds ignorance and kills, and does not deserve to be tolerated. There are very few religions that should be tolerated.
I understand that due to time restrictions this video is not quite good in construeing more of a clearer point.
The point was not to simply lay helplessly and be victimized. I urge your common sense to heed the application of a more pragmatic or at least practical, approach to interpreting such scenario. Obviously everybody has the right to defend oneself. I simply attest a more ample way to learn to live together in peace by tolerating that which we don't understand as long as it is harmless.
As long as it is harmless I see no problem with it but I disagree with some of the pictures, like saying it isn't okay to attack Islam. Islam is a violent religious faith that should be attacked. I think it's absurd to think otherwise.
The Nazi army killed Jews with the blessing of the German Catholic Church, which does not make Christianity a violent religion, right! In our war on terror we have Muslim countries who are our allies.
The one point I agree with you is the one you made earlier when you said: Religion breeds ignorance and kills. That is a much better way of understanding it. Its not that religion per say grants us the wish and spirit to kill one another. Id say the human spirit alone does that. We dont
Islam like Christianity is very much branched out. To say "those Muslims" is like saying "those Christians," well, which Christians; Jehovahs witnesses, Catholics, orthodox, Pentecostal, Adventists, Mormons, Protestants, etc. (remember that under Christianity fall all and any faith that preaches the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ Christ as in Christian)To blame one entire religion by the misgivings of one branch of fundamentalists is a grave mistake. The Nazi army killed Jews
spirit alone does that. We dont really need religion to wage war on one another, we have our human nature for that, instead religion just functions as a venue, as a medium to excuse and justify our thirst for conquest and domination. We have been killing each other since long before religion became an established secular influence, but nonetheless we havent fallen short of creating reasons to fight. Among many are; nationality, patriotism, ethnicity, race, gender, political affiliation,
political affiliation, regionalism, idealism, etc.
Religion is the opium of the masses. We eat it up because we are idiots.
I am not saying dont believe, I am simply saying; I f you believe, believe it for your happiness, because it works for you, because it makes you a better person, a better human being, a better citizen of the world. Dont let religious agitators use you for their purpose and benefit but lets use religion as means to understand and respect each other. We are all
We are all created equal, excluding those from wherever they come who choose to behave like animals and who mean to bring harm to my doorstep just because they lack the natural neurological response to detect when they are being handled as bait. To those I say FUCK YOU DEEP SHIT! YOU FUCK WITH ME, YOURE FUCKED!!! If a person doesnt want to parlay about our plight in theology in a convivial gathering and instead wants to rain fire on us and splurge our entrails then he is not a human being and
he is not a human being and hence is not entitled to human rights, because you have to behave like a human being to qualify for human rights.
I am sorry I digressed. I served two tours of duty in Iraq and I have seen enough blood to last me two lifetimes, sometimes I cant help it.
We cant classify Islam as a violent religion and attack it based on that. If we do, then what is to come of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ? Now, I am neither a member of the cloth nor a very religious
I am neither a member of the cloth nor a very religious person. I wont turn the other cheek if you strike it, but I joined the fight because as an American and as a Christian I believe in helping out brothers in Iraq who had suffered enough under the clutches of a cruel dictator, twisted turn of events that we ended up causing more pain than relief. Nonetheless, our stand is not of an offensive nature but defensive. We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan only after they attacked us first. That is
The majority of this can be answered with one statement: I am not saying that each Christian is a murderer, I am not saying each Muslim is a Murderer, I'm no saying each Jew is a murderer, I am not saying that without religion there would be no murder. What I am saying is that, the teachings of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and numerous other religions give people justification for murder, rape, and various other atrocities. Continued in the next comment...
Cannot say Islam is a violent religion? I beg to differ what do you think makes something violent, there are numerous verses that order violence within the Qu'ran, I'm sure you can look them up yourself. I've heard of 8 year old girls being burned alive for wearing lipstick and this is justified and viewed as moral because of the religion. Religion is not only the opium of the masses, it is the cyanide. It breeds violence and gives people justification for these heinous acts. Continued----
I do think that Islam receives more criticism than other faiths and I do think this is somewhat unfair, Judaism and Christianity also have violent verses within their holy books but they are not followed out as often as the teachings of Islam. But furthermore, why should we be forced to not criticize a person's religious faith? We have no problem criticizing political views, or social views, or anything else why is religion held on a higher level? Continued...
"We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan only after they attacked us first." and "citizens of a Christian nation"
Okay first the quicker response to the Christian nation, we are not a Christian nation, we are a nation with a Christian majority but not a Christian nation. See the Treaty of Tripoli Article 11.
and Afghanistan and Iraq
These nations did not attack us first terrorists from Al'Queda (probably spelled wrong) attacked us. (continued one more time)
A large number of the terrorists were hiding in Afghanistan and that is why we sent troops there to eradicate them. Iraq was completely separate and was attacked because it was suspected to contain WMD's. Keep in mind though, that we put the dictator Saddam Hussein into power to fight the Soviets with us.
Im glad to see we agree on some issues and its only logic to disagree on others.
We are not a Christian nation, we are a nation with a Christian majority but not a Christian nation.
I understand that it is ineludible for some of the context of our conversation to get lost in the process from thinking about it to writing it to explaining it, etc. So I hope it is ok with you to try and not take anything too literal. Im sure youd agree. One of the things I love about my country is
my country is its secular form of governance and its many freedoms like that of religion. What I meant was that we are not Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jains, etc. We, over here, profess and/or practice Christianity. God help us the day religion takes over the White House, although our forefathers were very much into it (Quakers, Protestants; some, not all); it says In God we trust in our currency; we place our hand on the bible, under oath, whenever we testify in court or take over a
take over a charge (like our President does when he is sworn in before taking office, or as a prerequisite to even aspire to run for any office candidates always project themselves as God-fearing believers who know that if they were to show their true colors atheism they wouldnt get elected because that carries a lot of gravitas with the American people. So that was my point. We are not a Christian nation officially but the American public still eats it like hot cakes. So in a way, yes
So in a way, yes, we are a Christian nation, or at least from the point of view of the masses.
Judaism and Christianity also have violent verses within their holy books but they are not followed out as often as the teachings of Islam
I agree with you that Islam it is more iron-stiff when it comes to flexibility, some of it has to do when their history. They have zero tolerance for thing we in the west dont care about. Maybe is social decadence, social development, progress, cultural
progress, cultural alienation or who knows what. You take your pick. I dont presume to understand everything about Islam, I am just analyzing it the best I can.
Why should we be forced to not criticize a person's religious faith?
Its your constitutional right to speak your mind. Just remember to be responsible, or as my gunnery sergeant used to say; Dont write checks your bud cant cash. Criticize all you want, but to the point. In and out. Dont just hate, illustrate. Im not saying
Im not saying all you do is hate, I m just generalizing a point. Also remember to take it as good as you dish it, after all nobody likes to hear shit about their people, right.
These nations did not attack us first terrorists from Al'Queda (probably spelled wrong) attacked us.
True, and once again I must apologize for abbreviating the specs. Al-Qaeda attacked us indeed from countries considered as non-grata by the U.S. They trained in the Middle East, they armed in the Middle East, and
they armed in the Middle East, and, needless to say, they were sponsored by these regimes. So by saying we attacked them I meant we went to those countries and kicked ass. They are also in India, Bangladesh, the Philippines, and Pakistan, and believe me when I tell you we have people there but not in force because those countries are our allies and they are handling it accordingly. About the WMDs talk to fucking Bush about it. I can tell you right now we didnt buy it for a second. It was a
for a second. It was a trick, but truth be told Saddam, like Noriega, went rogue and wouldnt take the leash so we took him down. Why? Because thats what power does. We are the latest version of the Roman Empire and as such, we follow suit. The next super power will behave the same way too. This goes back to not needing excuses to wage war: Why we do it, because we can. As unfair and egotistic as that sounds its the nature of the beast. All throughout history empires long gone have said it
"We, over here, profess and/or practice Christianity"--Over where? "we are not Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jains, etc." There are each of these in the US. Alot of the thing you mentioned, God on the money, in the pledge, etc. were not always there, they were added in the 50's to combat the communism scare. Do you not think its wrong and do you think the forming father's would agree that its right that in the "land of the free" we have to be religious to get into office?
We are a nation with a Christian majority but just because the majority is christian and wants it to be called a Christian nation doesn't mean we are a christian nation. The majority of us eat fast food but that doesn't make us a fast-food nation. The nation was not founded on fast-food just like it wasn't founded on Christianity, that is why it is not a Christian Nation.---
Christianity and Judaism were once as violent as Islam. I think what allows Islam to remain this violent is the lack of criticism. We need to challenge its authority and criticize it, but up to now anyone who has done that has been attacked, but when we plant a seed of doubt in the minds of its followers and its doctrines are challenged, that is the only time we will see change in Islam. "Dont just hate" I am not hating, I am just criticizing a religion, I have---
not attacked their followers only their religion. I am completely open to criticism and debate about faiths or lack of but I don't know how you can argue that Islam, Christianity, Judaism have all caused violence and death as a result of their teachings. Surely you can't justify any war just because other empires throughout time have done it. People need to change, war is sometimes necessary, I will not disagree on that, but I think war should be a last resort and America should---
focus on economy before military and engage in battles only when completely necessary. I think that the excuse that every nation throughout time has waged war just to wage war is absurd. These empires did lots of things we are in a more enlightened era and should not be doing things because we can. We all know what happened to the Holy Roman Empire and the same will happen to any nation who tries to follow in its footsteps.
@TheBlasphemer2875 America was founded on Christianity. When christopher columbus discovered the new world he prayed to God to thank him for the discover. Our founding fathers were christian. Hence, In God we trust on the dollar bill
Excellent video! I don't know where the idea of evolution, as discussed below has come into play, in the idea of being tolerant of eachothers religion or path in life though, lol!
talenduff 1 month ago
Wrong yet again. You're hiding behind billions of years which has been proven time after time after time to be an outrageous lie. Your problem is that you have let man deceive you into thinking you're just an animal with no purpose in life. This couldn't be further from the truth. Everything that is happening in this world was prophetically impossible up until that last couple decades. Public school text books are full of lies and people keep on believing the liars. Trust in God, not man.
Ezekielthirtyeight 1 month ago
Typical secular garbage.
All these knuckle-heads that are pushing for this religious agenda are deceiving themselves. All the other "gods" are still in their graves. Jesus has risen and is alive forever more - Amen. Jesus is the way truth and life and NO man comes unto the Father but by Him.
TRUTH, not tolerance
Ezekielthirtyeight 6 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight do you seriously beleive that if i dont beleive in Jesus i will forever go to a burning cave somewhere? Gods love apparently...
obenrob 3 months ago
@obenrob God doesn't reject men, men reject God. Reject God and you reject all of Gods attributes like love, goodness, kindness and eternal security. You ought to be greatful there is a way. That "way" is Jesus.
Ezekielthirtyeight 3 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight i am an atheist now but once when i had to take the choice to either be an christian or atheist. I praid for him to send me a revelation so i would convince myself to get confirmed, but he never called...
obenrob 3 months ago
@obenrob atheist??? That's just a foolish thing to say. You mean to tell me that you believe that nothing exploded 4.6 billion years ago and this perfect environment that we live in all happened by chance? Let me let you on a little secret.....evolution has been debunked over one hundred years ago. The only thing that is holding this theory together is tax supported money. That's it. There is not ONE SHRED of evidence that evolution is true. Darwin knew this on his death bed, check it out.
Ezekielthirtyeight 2 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight it isnt by chance we live on this planet. If the planet would not have been able to support life then there would not be anything around to think over that it was a luck that we came on this planet. It could just as well be earth that were hostile to life and venus that wasnt.
obenrob 2 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight It could just as well be Venus that could support life and earth that could not. If the planet could not support life then there would be nothing around to think over that it was happend by luck. You cant hear the thoughts of animals that dosent exist
obenrob 2 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight Dobble post my bad... By the way is evolution really logic. You must agree with me that even though two species are the same, then there are SMALL differences, and the one that has the best difference survives and passes it gens on. Therefor it is logic by this happening then new species with big differences would appear after thousands of years
obenrob 2 months ago
@obenrob There are small differences, but God said, put forth after their kind. A horse and a zebra is the same kind of animal just as a eagle and a hawk is the same kind of animal. This doesn't prove evolution, this proves Gods Word never changes. This is a small factor though in the proof of God. Did you know that Peter Stoner (professor of math and science) did a research study on any one man fulfilling the OT messianic (Jesus) prophecies? 1 Trillion to the 13th power. Doesn't that ?
Ezekielthirtyeight 2 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight let me explain evolution to you: two hypothetical birds of the same specie has a beak. Though one of them has a beak that is some few mm longer. This hypothetical bird is good given when it has a longer beak, so the one of the two birds with the longest beak gets more to eat, so it gets stronger and makes more children with also slightly longer beaks. And after thousands of years a new specie has been created.
obenrob 2 months ago
@obenrob Sorry, but that is not what evolution is. It is how a species slowly adapts new features, over time, to further live in it's environment.
talenduff 1 month ago
@talenduff well thats was also what i talked about. Look at my previous comments
obenrob 1 month ago
@obenrob Sorry, I didn't read through all comments. Too many of them, on a video that was in regards to a video that is about promoting tolerance of all faiths/paths.
talenduff 1 month ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight But it can also go the other way suddenly because of a natural disaster, so it is the bird with the short beak that gets more to eat and gives birth to more children. Evolution is that simple, and it is a fact.
obenrob 2 months ago
@obenrob You've proved absolutely nothing. It is still a bird. It is the same kind of animal. This repetition is taking you no where. This a far cry from "we came from a rock 4.6 billions of years ago." It has been proven time, after time, after time that this earth cannot be millions or billions of years old. If you want to know the answers to ALL of your questions, watch, The age of the earth, Kent Hovind - YT. All of your theories will vanish, I assure you.
Evolution is a lie.
Ezekielthirtyeight 2 months ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight yes, its still a bird, but a different kind of bird. It has changed. Not much, but it is still a change. Therefor it is able to change even more over more time and therefor it can become a whole new specie.
obenrob 1 month ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight "we came from a rock"? Really? That is what you think evolution is? Uh, now, there has NEVER been a scientist that has stated that. Please educate yourself. You're obviously posting on here, so you have internet. It's not that hard to do a search. Here is a good article to help get you started. wiki/Human_evolution
talenduff 1 month ago
@talenduff Yes, that is exactly what evolution in: 4.6 billion years ago NOTHING exploded, then all the matter in the universe became a perfect circle, then it rained on the ROCKS for millions of years. The water became soup...........Here we are. Gimme a break dude. Such a dumb, useless and ridiculous "theory", and the worst part of it, is that you actually believe this garbage. If I were you, I would get educated and watch debates between creationist and evolutionist. Then comment
Ezekielthirtyeight 1 month ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight First off, it would better if you not call someone a dude, unless you are sure of what their gender is. Second, I pointed out before, that I know perfectly well what evolution is. You are only showing your ignorance of the matter every time you post. Since you obviously believe in the story that was written in the bible, would you mind telling me what about all the fossils that prove your theory wrong, came from?
talenduff 1 month ago
@talenduff I would love to talk about fossils. Where would you like me to start? I believe the fossils along with all the dinosaurs died in the flood roughly 4,000 years ago. I have proof for this so don't bother with the "geologic column", or "fossil record", because they just don't exist.
Ezekielthirtyeight 1 month ago
@Ezekielthirtyeight Hmmm, ok, so you are dismissing what several 1,000's of scientists and archeologists have proven. Sorry, I won't try to match intellect with an unarmed person. Have a great life believing in your fairytale.
talenduff 1 month ago
@talenduff No, I'm not dismissing science. I like science. There is a lot of good science out there. What I am against is lies to support a theory. All the scientists have proven is there is a lot of bones in the dirt. You, nor anybody else can prove those bones had any babies. Go out and get a shovel full of dirt and tell me how old it is. Seriously, this "theory" has been literally thrown out by true scientists. Even darwin said before he died, "I've devoted my life to a phantasy".
Ezekielthirtyeight 1 month ago
@talenduff Dats ok
obenrob 3 weeks ago
I really like this video. Espically the parts of stopping terrorism in the name of islam and Christians against islamphobia.
Hyperactiveroxerchic 1 year ago
like 70% of those were muslims against others its preety obvious without them we would have a peaceful world.
2getmorvids 1 year ago
wow u forgot a bunch of religions! but it doesn't matter! i think everyone who believes in a mindless bullshit religion and yes islam and christianity are my top 2 ones i dislike! you all should saves us HEATHENS the trouble of getting our revenge for your atocities on us and kill yourself so we dont have to do it for u
fireamracing 2 years ago
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Hyperactiveroxerchic 1 year ago
@fireamracing Ok so clearly you believe that Christians and Muslims are evil. But you know if you killed all christians and Muslims then you would be just as evil as you claim that they are. Thus, you are a hypocrite =\
Hyperactiveroxerchic 1 year ago
@Hyperactiveroxerchic i never said "that if i killed muslims and christians" what i said was " you all should saves us HEATHENS the trouble of getting our revenge for your atocities on us and kill yourself so we dont have to do it for u" so before u start putting words in my mouth get your info straight first. and secondly if all ppl who worshiped religions were dead then no wars to fight, no genocide no senseless acts of violence for a god or pope or personal gain would take place.
fireamracing 1 year ago
@fireamracing Well by suggesting them to commit suicide to safe yoruself the trouble of getting "revenge" (in this case your implying violence) your making a death wish for us. And did you know that all morals originate from religions?
Hyperactiveroxerchic 1 year ago
@Hyperactiveroxerchic well apparently you have not heard of Natural Law. and yes morals were created by men and when u have faith in something created by men then you fail.
fireamracing 1 year ago
Tolerance is not a virtue, do not tell me to tolerate something simply because it is someone's sincere beliefs. I may believe that there is a god and this god wants me to kill all children does this mean you should be tolerant of this. Religion breeds ignorance and kills, and does not deserve to be tolerated. There are very few religions that should be tolerated.
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
I understand that due to time restrictions this video is not quite good in construeing more of a clearer point.
The point was not to simply lay helplessly and be victimized. I urge your common sense to heed the application of a more pragmatic or at least practical, approach to interpreting such scenario. Obviously everybody has the right to defend oneself. I simply attest a more ample way to learn to live together in peace by tolerating that which we don't understand as long as it is harmless.
hmontweb 2 years ago
As long as it is harmless I see no problem with it but I disagree with some of the pictures, like saying it isn't okay to attack Islam. Islam is a violent religious faith that should be attacked. I think it's absurd to think otherwise.
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
The Nazi army killed Jews with the blessing of the German Catholic Church, which does not make Christianity a violent religion, right! In our war on terror we have Muslim countries who are our allies.
The one point I agree with you is the one you made earlier when you said: Religion breeds ignorance and kills. That is a much better way of understanding it. Its not that religion per say grants us the wish and spirit to kill one another. Id say the human spirit alone does that. We dont
hmontweb 2 years ago
Islam like Christianity is very much branched out. To say "those Muslims" is like saying "those Christians," well, which Christians; Jehovahs witnesses, Catholics, orthodox, Pentecostal, Adventists, Mormons, Protestants, etc. (remember that under Christianity fall all and any faith that preaches the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ Christ as in Christian)To blame one entire religion by the misgivings of one branch of fundamentalists is a grave mistake. The Nazi army killed Jews
hmontweb 2 years ago
spirit alone does that. We dont really need religion to wage war on one another, we have our human nature for that, instead religion just functions as a venue, as a medium to excuse and justify our thirst for conquest and domination. We have been killing each other since long before religion became an established secular influence, but nonetheless we havent fallen short of creating reasons to fight. Among many are; nationality, patriotism, ethnicity, race, gender, political affiliation,
hmontweb 2 years ago
political affiliation, regionalism, idealism, etc.
Religion is the opium of the masses. We eat it up because we are idiots.
I am not saying dont believe, I am simply saying; I f you believe, believe it for your happiness, because it works for you, because it makes you a better person, a better human being, a better citizen of the world. Dont let religious agitators use you for their purpose and benefit but lets use religion as means to understand and respect each other. We are all
hmontweb 2 years ago
We are all created equal, excluding those from wherever they come who choose to behave like animals and who mean to bring harm to my doorstep just because they lack the natural neurological response to detect when they are being handled as bait. To those I say FUCK YOU DEEP SHIT! YOU FUCK WITH ME, YOURE FUCKED!!! If a person doesnt want to parlay about our plight in theology in a convivial gathering and instead wants to rain fire on us and splurge our entrails then he is not a human being and
hmontweb 2 years ago
he is not a human being and hence is not entitled to human rights, because you have to behave like a human being to qualify for human rights.
I am sorry I digressed. I served two tours of duty in Iraq and I have seen enough blood to last me two lifetimes, sometimes I cant help it.
We cant classify Islam as a violent religion and attack it based on that. If we do, then what is to come of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ? Now, I am neither a member of the cloth nor a very religious
hmontweb 2 years ago
I am neither a member of the cloth nor a very religious person. I wont turn the other cheek if you strike it, but I joined the fight because as an American and as a Christian I believe in helping out brothers in Iraq who had suffered enough under the clutches of a cruel dictator, twisted turn of events that we ended up causing more pain than relief. Nonetheless, our stand is not of an offensive nature but defensive. We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan only after they attacked us first. That is
hmontweb 2 years ago
We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan only after they attacked us first. That is who we are, as American citizens of a Christian nation.
hmontweb 2 years ago
The majority of this can be answered with one statement: I am not saying that each Christian is a murderer, I am not saying each Muslim is a Murderer, I'm no saying each Jew is a murderer, I am not saying that without religion there would be no murder. What I am saying is that, the teachings of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and numerous other religions give people justification for murder, rape, and various other atrocities. Continued in the next comment...
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
Cannot say Islam is a violent religion? I beg to differ what do you think makes something violent, there are numerous verses that order violence within the Qu'ran, I'm sure you can look them up yourself. I've heard of 8 year old girls being burned alive for wearing lipstick and this is justified and viewed as moral because of the religion. Religion is not only the opium of the masses, it is the cyanide. It breeds violence and gives people justification for these heinous acts. Continued----
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
I do think that Islam receives more criticism than other faiths and I do think this is somewhat unfair, Judaism and Christianity also have violent verses within their holy books but they are not followed out as often as the teachings of Islam. But furthermore, why should we be forced to not criticize a person's religious faith? We have no problem criticizing political views, or social views, or anything else why is religion held on a higher level? Continued...
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
"We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan only after they attacked us first." and "citizens of a Christian nation"
Okay first the quicker response to the Christian nation, we are not a Christian nation, we are a nation with a Christian majority but not a Christian nation. See the Treaty of Tripoli Article 11.
and Afghanistan and Iraq
These nations did not attack us first terrorists from Al'Queda (probably spelled wrong) attacked us. (continued one more time)
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
A large number of the terrorists were hiding in Afghanistan and that is why we sent troops there to eradicate them. Iraq was completely separate and was attacked because it was suspected to contain WMD's. Keep in mind though, that we put the dictator Saddam Hussein into power to fight the Soviets with us.
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
Im glad to see we agree on some issues and its only logic to disagree on others.
We are not a Christian nation, we are a nation with a Christian majority but not a Christian nation.
I understand that it is ineludible for some of the context of our conversation to get lost in the process from thinking about it to writing it to explaining it, etc. So I hope it is ok with you to try and not take anything too literal. Im sure youd agree. One of the things I love about my country is
hmontweb 2 years ago
my country is its secular form of governance and its many freedoms like that of religion. What I meant was that we are not Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jains, etc. We, over here, profess and/or practice Christianity. God help us the day religion takes over the White House, although our forefathers were very much into it (Quakers, Protestants; some, not all); it says In God we trust in our currency; we place our hand on the bible, under oath, whenever we testify in court or take over a
hmontweb 2 years ago
take over a charge (like our President does when he is sworn in before taking office, or as a prerequisite to even aspire to run for any office candidates always project themselves as God-fearing believers who know that if they were to show their true colors atheism they wouldnt get elected because that carries a lot of gravitas with the American people. So that was my point. We are not a Christian nation officially but the American public still eats it like hot cakes. So in a way, yes
hmontweb 2 years ago
So in a way, yes, we are a Christian nation, or at least from the point of view of the masses.
Judaism and Christianity also have violent verses within their holy books but they are not followed out as often as the teachings of Islam
I agree with you that Islam it is more iron-stiff when it comes to flexibility, some of it has to do when their history. They have zero tolerance for thing we in the west dont care about. Maybe is social decadence, social development, progress, cultural
hmontweb 2 years ago
progress, cultural alienation or who knows what. You take your pick. I dont presume to understand everything about Islam, I am just analyzing it the best I can.
Why should we be forced to not criticize a person's religious faith?
Its your constitutional right to speak your mind. Just remember to be responsible, or as my gunnery sergeant used to say; Dont write checks your bud cant cash. Criticize all you want, but to the point. In and out. Dont just hate, illustrate. Im not saying
hmontweb 2 years ago
Im not saying all you do is hate, I m just generalizing a point. Also remember to take it as good as you dish it, after all nobody likes to hear shit about their people, right.
These nations did not attack us first terrorists from Al'Queda (probably spelled wrong) attacked us.
True, and once again I must apologize for abbreviating the specs. Al-Qaeda attacked us indeed from countries considered as non-grata by the U.S. They trained in the Middle East, they armed in the Middle East, and
hmontweb 2 years ago
they armed in the Middle East, and, needless to say, they were sponsored by these regimes. So by saying we attacked them I meant we went to those countries and kicked ass. They are also in India, Bangladesh, the Philippines, and Pakistan, and believe me when I tell you we have people there but not in force because those countries are our allies and they are handling it accordingly. About the WMDs talk to fucking Bush about it. I can tell you right now we didnt buy it for a second. It was a
hmontweb 2 years ago
for a second. It was a trick, but truth be told Saddam, like Noriega, went rogue and wouldnt take the leash so we took him down. Why? Because thats what power does. We are the latest version of the Roman Empire and as such, we follow suit. The next super power will behave the same way too. This goes back to not needing excuses to wage war: Why we do it, because we can. As unfair and egotistic as that sounds its the nature of the beast. All throughout history empires long gone have said it
hmontweb 2 years ago
long gone have said it and done it.
Iraq like Viet Nam, Panama, Grenada, Laos, Cambodia, Germany, Japan, Mexico, Cuba, Iran, etc. is just one more link in our global influence.
hmontweb 2 years ago
That is all for today. Wishing you the best!
hmontweb 2 years ago
"We, over here, profess and/or practice Christianity"--Over where? "we are not Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jains, etc." There are each of these in the US. Alot of the thing you mentioned, God on the money, in the pledge, etc. were not always there, they were added in the 50's to combat the communism scare. Do you not think its wrong and do you think the forming father's would agree that its right that in the "land of the free" we have to be religious to get into office?
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
We are a nation with a Christian majority but just because the majority is christian and wants it to be called a Christian nation doesn't mean we are a christian nation. The majority of us eat fast food but that doesn't make us a fast-food nation. The nation was not founded on fast-food just like it wasn't founded on Christianity, that is why it is not a Christian Nation.---
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
Christianity and Judaism were once as violent as Islam. I think what allows Islam to remain this violent is the lack of criticism. We need to challenge its authority and criticize it, but up to now anyone who has done that has been attacked, but when we plant a seed of doubt in the minds of its followers and its doctrines are challenged, that is the only time we will see change in Islam. "Dont just hate" I am not hating, I am just criticizing a religion, I have---
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
not attacked their followers only their religion. I am completely open to criticism and debate about faiths or lack of but I don't know how you can argue that Islam, Christianity, Judaism have all caused violence and death as a result of their teachings. Surely you can't justify any war just because other empires throughout time have done it. People need to change, war is sometimes necessary, I will not disagree on that, but I think war should be a last resort and America should---
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
focus on economy before military and engage in battles only when completely necessary. I think that the excuse that every nation throughout time has waged war just to wage war is absurd. These empires did lots of things we are in a more enlightened era and should not be doing things because we can. We all know what happened to the Holy Roman Empire and the same will happen to any nation who tries to follow in its footsteps.
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
That being said I really don't want to get into a political argument about war, or imperialism I'd rather keep this about religion.
TheBlasphemer2875 2 years ago
@TheBlasphemer2875 America was founded on Christianity. When christopher columbus discovered the new world he prayed to God to thank him for the discover. Our founding fathers were christian. Hence, In God we trust on the dollar bill
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