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  • For once that was an entire video I totally appreciated and agreed with, thanks :)

  • I dont get the haters who dislike this. do they want war, death and suffering???

  • ARE U reaaaaaalllllyyy trying to say that there's achance of getting into a war with china, u are maaaaaaaad, they depend on us so much for investment, and trade, its never going to happen, the age of conventional war is over, whatever policies the chinee government have is up to them, its not for us to worry about, THEY brought in this government, THEY need to sort it out, but as for war with china, thats loooony talk

  • @burnsie999 If you're from USA, your country is in debt to them cunts.

  • love you charlie, fuck the trolls. x

  • go back to work for wall street man!

  • Falun Gong was dismantled because it was recognised as a CIA Mosad fifth column.

    China must increase its war readyness to prevent becoming another Iraq.

    Germany invaded lands that belonged to them prior to the WW1 and then made no attempts to push further into Poland. When it became evident that the war was a fizzer(lack of German aggression) Chamberlain was pushed out and Churchil put in his place. That very evening Churchill was bombing German cities.

    He who finds a truth finds God

  • I propose an idea for the charlie supporters. If anyone is on here posting decieving opinions about charlie, immediatly report them as spam. Let them flock to their own little corner of youtube so they don't have to bother us anymore. They have their right to opinion, but they don't have the right to push it down anyones throats.

  • "Charlie Veitch = either a SCHIZOPHRENIC or a HYPOCRITE"

  • @VHappy100 Everyone's a hypocrite by their own right, and what exactly makes him a schizo?

  • "they (politicians) haven't learned"?? yes they have and they're exploiting it.. its a good thing you're exposing yourself for the uninformed, naive likkle boy u r... or shill that cant handle his testosterone and scams... what's the deal with the blog hack story? peace

  • in the end LOVE will win, also in the comments.

  • Charlie, we all know you got paid by the BBC the same way you got paid by the SUN Newspaper when you sold them incriminating footage of the UK protests for money. I could care less about your views of 9/11, but anyone with half a brain cell can see that you're a CONman.

    You've been living off of gullible people on YouTube who were stupid enough to donate to you for a long time, get a job and stop begging.

  • Did you brag to the dead soldiers about how much more attention you received from the opposite sex than they did?

  • we do our best to show them options in life but they have to decide if peace is better than war and minimal consumption and innovation is better than the opposite.

  • people dont feel resposisible for what others willingly do themselves. idiots will be idiots that sign up for war and making iphones and being treated like shit. and peole who buy that junk and pay taxes to destructive people are also idiots. oh well right

  • Everybody needs to see this, Its regarding Charlie and his, well very disturbing behaviour... watch?v=rQQhgdg0K6k&feature=fe­edf

  • @besner This video is absolutely nothing but eye candy for charlie haters to look at and say "I KNEW IT!" without any form of proof of credibility. And then when new lookers see it, they'll see a bunch of people hateing on charlie and form an opinion based off of hot air. Oh, how easy the sheep flock.

  • You suck.

  • boring

  • suck muh dickie

  • Charlie, you moved me as an individual, you cast such a great light on the peoples minds. You brought hope and love to your fan base, then you brought out the knife when we were most vulnerable and gave us a real taste of reality never to trust or follow others, but to mainly trust and follow ourselves. You were someone dear to me, and now I've sadly realized it was all an illusion and never that way to begin with. Thank you for waking me up to betrayal. May your disinfo legacy carry on! Peace

  • @tdubduders

    You shouldn't of been following Charlie anyway he never purported to be a leader. I can't believe how stupid people are getting over the sep 11th thing. People are fickle, little shits!

  • What a CUNT this guy turned out to be!

  • Unusually for such a large subject (war) this video is incredibly tedious, this guy says nothing new or insightful just repeats what we already know (war is bad) and manages to string it out for quarter of an hour.

  • @smallblueclouds Not everyone is as informed as you.

  • can someone please arrange for this twat to kill himself?

  • No Charlie, soldiers are dead because of the incompetence of the military , Kissinger never said that , thats a quote from someone else that says that kissinger said that , hows that libertarian hearth working for you 'sellout' boy?

    Hows the McDonalds burning going?

  • @asetentay8 what's wrong with libertarianism?

  • @asetentay8 soldiers die because that is what is meant to happens in war so it's not the incompetence of a military more the government that sends them to die. why do you find it hard to believe kissinger saying that and it's true in a sense anyway so you are just arguing to be a cunt, and what is wrong with libertarianism you commutard.

  • @sh4p3shifter  you are a stupid that doesnt understand irony . Veitch is a Fraud.

  • @asetentay8 'you are a stupid', ironic. i think you mean to say you were being sarcastic? i don't follow veitch much so am not familiar with the libertarian hearth or mcdonalds references you're referring to. People who don't agree with libertarianism are generally cunts.

  • Charlie Vetch

  • how dare you uploading new videos? you scum!

  • Being a Norwegian IN Norway these days (!), with WW2 as a "living" part of our history - I was listening to what you said in the video and have to say I cannot disagree in your thoughts. I may not agree in every aspect of your video, but never the less - I will grant you the right to say and express what you did. And that's what it's all about!

    Personally I'm thankful for what you where sharing in the video, and I hope even more viewers will stumble upon it - and get some food for thoughts!

  • Once again another insightful video from Charlie that hits the nail on the head. For those who think everything he says is nonsense, then you weren't listening or you just posted a comment because you think he is a nutter. Well for a nutter he sure knows what's going on in the world.

  • @TheSaltzer

    "Once again another insightful video from Charlie"

    What particular insights do you feel are presented in this video ?

  • @smallblueclouds Most of it, especially the observation on China, but I know it's easy to hate, so I will keep it short.

  • Are all these people hating because of that joke video you did?lol... This is crazy,lol...But it does go to show people will fall for anything,lol...

    You're amazing Charlie, I agree with everything you say (other then your obvious joke vids)... :0)

  • Sorry mate but your full of shite.. I guarantee that when it comes to the crunch you'll run or sell out. Your words mean nothing.

  • new shades charles? i bet you dont remember whos money you used to purchase them.

  • i just read a post on facebook which was basically saying charlie is a perverted serial cheat and a paedophile who has groomed teenage girls 4 sex whilst cheating on his "goddess" . some1 who knows Charlie well used charlies password to post this stuff on his own page.either way charlie should get the fuck of YT and stop makin shit videos no1 gives 2 fucks about

  • @TheTruthSlave Nice use of the word "on" there. I see it was a concise critical evaluation / response to the video above. I'm sure the cold bodies beneath the stones feel your decrepit infantile vomit.

  • @BeepStratten i am stating what i saw (read) and directly posting that information appropriately under a C veitch video. if u are defending charlie you are undeniably connected to or involved in crimes of a similar nature , solution ; go FUCK yourself

  • Charlie Cveitch turned into a right cunt.

  • @boboj345 The pussy give him more attention in a day than we get in our lifetimes :)

  • Mixed messages.

    Watching these videos is more awkward than inspiring these days.

    This upsets me.

  • @Joesus5000 i know what you mean.

    i want the old mega-phone in the street charlie back. at least that charlie was sincere and not just awkward.

  • a weaving spider come not here

  • Sure… blame the mothers! “The women have to stop their son’s going of to die…” So thats the power of the godess or what? As if young people have no mind for them selfs, the mothers have to stick up for it and show resposobility. Charlie, you seriously should get your head a little around feminism, and pop out of your heteronormativ worldview, otherwise your are losing me slowly but sure.

  • @ch3ckm4te He's just full of shit, this video is just meaningless jibberish. i got to the point where he did an essay on hollywood blockbuster Saving Private Ryan just after telling us how evil we are for glorifying war and how it is somehow 'unnatural' to kill (WTF?), and switched off. I've seen the film once, its not based on a true story and even if it was, search and rescue missions were conducted as propoganda excercises and had nothing to do with 'divinity' or watever that drivel was about

  • @ch3ckm4te This ridiculous man has no grasp of history, geopolitics, social science or anything at all for that matter. Particular gems such as 'each cross is a human being with dreams' 'taxation means you are a slave for five months' and outrageous attacks against the peoples republic of china, really betray his ignorance. What an inane, nonsensical, pile of slurry this video is.

  • @jonnypinknuckles

    "He's just full of shit,"

    I am not sure I would even go that far, it was just 15 minutes of platitudes mixed in with his usual drifting vague spiritual musings on the human condition, nothing you can't get a teenager to knock up in half an hour.

    I think you are being unkind to slurry?

    (P.S. just noticed, 'teenager' and 'knock up' in the same sentence! Don't want to give anyone ideas, lol !!)

  • @smallblueclouds Well thats right but I also have a problem with all this anti taxation, "government is evil" sentiment these people seem to spew in every video. I'd like him to tell us how he expects the world to work under this insane system where everyones supposed to fend for themselves, or better yet he can go visit Somalia see how well it worked out for them. Like it or not, we need some level of bureucracy to maintain the infrastructure and hospitals and transport and so on.

  • @jonnypinknuckles

    Yes, Charlie's anti-tax / 'give up your job' position is inane.

    It was interesting to see this anti-state, anti-tax, advocate (who thinks people should leave their jobs) on the student marches.

    He was essentially demanding that the state tax the working man to pay for the education of future lawyers, architects and nurses.

    He was literally in the street shouting and angrily demanding everything he stands in opposition to, state intervention, taxation and careerism.

  • @smallblueclouds Charlie's followers will never listen to reason, dude. They were all there chanting WITH him!

  • @smallblueclouds I mean I'm sort of playing devils advocate here, because I do agree with alot of libertarian positions about freedom of choice etc. But the problem really isn't so-called "big government" rather who they are serving; the people, or special interests and corporations, and under captitalist system it is of course the latter.

  • @jonnypinknuckles

    Free market capitalism doesn't use force to get its way (see big government). Capitalism has to sell you something, you have to voluntarily accept it or they go out of business. Big government doesn't have to sell you $hit, do what they say or be imprisoned or killed. The bombing of innocent families overseas, the massive prison population in the name of the war on drugs, liberties lost, and money stolen through taxation. This is what big government has given us.

  • @smallblueclouds But seeing as old Charlie boy is an ex-bankster I suppose he expects the private sector to take care of everything (as they've always done such a good job in the past) and so, instead, starts rambling on about "commie-fascist-dictatorships" because he has no real understanding (or *lol* insightfullness) of how the world works.

    oh and apparently hes a kiddy fiddler.

    Diatribe - over.

  • Keep reading the script

  • Why hide behind sunglasses ?

    You look like a poser and i want to see your eyes when you are talking to the camera to make sure that you are not lying and to see if you are sincere.

  • @peterwwolf because they're Polarized.. 7.

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  • Toss monkey.

  • @volemole masturbation is not a crime, nor is being a monkey

  • @cveitch Keep going Charlie, people cant handle that someone is speaking there mind, they have to find a fault, spread hate and destroy someone's sincere effort to express there feelings. The revolution is coming ,people are seeing it. Keep it coming ! im a big fan of your work no matter what you do with your social life or behind the scenes, your not here to lead your life in a way someone else would, your work is excellent Viva La revolution!

  • @kkaaii13

    "The revolution is coming ,people are seeing it."

    What is this revolution ? In what way are you seeing it ?

  • @cveitch Your credibility is shot, your wasting your time. The damage is done already

  • @cveitch no but I think pedophilia is a crime u sicko... watch?v=rQQhgdg0K6k&feature=fe­­edf

  • There's nothing rational about killing each other, period.

  • zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­z, trying to get back on the "good" side.

  • apparently charlie is a rapist.

  • Now, lets move on to your Chinese debacle. Now I'm not sure where your getting your information from (BBC pardon the pun) but it's very misleading. You may be many things but an economics advisor you are not. China is investing massivley in the US stock market and treasury and for you to suggest they are investing for conflict is a farce. Join the dots Charlie and see the futility of that scenario. Pollution? Well readers can easily find accurate data, unfortunatley not from your mouth. Comical.

  • "It's a well known fact that a very large percentage of soldiers scream for their mothers when dying" And your sources are? Please exclude the scene in Saving Private Ryan( that's fictional Charlie). You see I've been to some rather unsavoury places during my time as a professional soldier (name, rank, army number available on request, plus the army's central records office in Glasgow if required) and I've seen death, but I'll be buggered if I can remember screaming for their mum. Pathetic.

  • Well, where to start. I had no idea how low you would stoop. To sit among those men spouting your rhetoric was unbelievable. You are privileged to sit there, and the only reason that you are sat there is because of the sacrifice of those men, so when you so boldly state "I'll never put on a uniform" just remember those that did, they not only preserved you beloved freedom of speech but also saved you from the fascism you despise. Truly sickening.

  • @TheUnknownAgenda Well said. I totally agree with you. Charlie Vietch really has no idea. Truly sickening.

  • @TheUnknownAgenda

    "I had no idea how low you would stoop"

    All the way.

  • @zanneke666 Are you talking about the bumblebee?

  • "we are the ones? / we are rsponsible? / we choose?" no way dude! we never got a choice! can't you see that point? learn history man!

  • GIVE UP CV WE KNOW YOU ARE NOT WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE.

  • thanks Charlie, with love. peace through understanding will be greater than any shells, or bombs.

  • Never noticed how beautiful the sky looks in the back

  • @skalover68 It's always beautiful when it's not covered over with chemtrails.

  • interestingly its people like charlie and many others who help the government propaganda machine to spin the lies and deceit that ultimately brings men to kill other men.

  • How do I not pay taxes? at most jobs the salary is automatically taxed, at least here in sweden. because wether I like it or not, I need money to eat and live in an apartment. Does that mean I'm gonna have to work smaller jobs here and there? In what ways can I beat the system and not pay tax?

  • @JustSolveIt research 'free man on the land' i recommend robert menard, watch his early post on 'mr mitee' channel

  • Hay charlie a UFO shoots past the screen at 11.41, it goes through the tree then past your right ear and shoots across the screen. super Fasssst.

    If we get Can the still shots would be great..

    Like the comment so Charlie can see it! . got to spread this.

  • The apathetic anarchist still searching for that BBC contract.

    you block the "Like" option, comments have to be approved now. your sell out is complete. better than jail i suppose, hey Charlie!

  • The apathetic anarchist still searching for that BBC contract

  • why was the ratings disabled for this video? is it because this sicofant has lost all credability. I guess he's just waiting for his BBC TV show deal

  • Great vid Charlie, this vid touched me and I agree fully with what you say.

    You can tell when a person is speaking from the heart and this is one of those guys and one of those vids.

  • The true ''Will'' the innermost spark of divine flame is unapproachable except by undertaking the work of the path. By stilling the noise of the lower mind and focussing on the archetypal symbols hidden behind the veil of the universe and persisiting through the great spiritual ordeals that turn away the coward, one may ultimately arrive at that eternal self, setting intellect and emotion in their proper places as ''Will's'' servants rather than its oppressors. Most are scared of emlightenment!

  • i heard rumors about britain and germany and two other countrys thinking about reinstating the draft makes you wonder why??? can someone tell me if these rumors are true (forgive my writting im dutch)

  • perfect! all bar the fact that Standard Oil owned by Grandfather Prescott Bush sold them the very fuel they used for the Luftwaffe and subsides it. - found guilty in court!!

    WAR IS A RACKET both sides are organised by mutual decision.

    The DEBT caused by war is someones PROFIT

    Bullets = $s and as Veitch said it's our TAXES that pay for it.

    The bigger the NATIONAL DEBT the more profit is devied by INTEREST.

    Who is reasonable - the owners of the central bankster's dynasties PROOF - rothschild

  • You pay tax whether you like it or not, VAT for one....=)-

  • People can not give what they do not have. So practice love for yourself, so you know how to give it to others.

  • Quite frankly, Charlie, this video makes me sick. You evoke emotions to gain sympathy before filling them with ignorant shit. You know who you remind me of, Charlie? Bruno. You just want to be famous for the sake of being famous. This video is as ridiculous as the scene where Bruno goes to the Middle East and tries to get them to make a peace treaty. The difference is that Bruno is played by a guy who knows he's a joke.

  • @dsglop LoL XD

  • And yes, Falun Gong is a cult. The leader convinces his members that they don't need modern medicine; he tells them that he will adjust their inner wheel and cure whatever. China became concerned that professionals are dying because of their stupid beliefs. As we know, Charlie, people are pretty gullible. I don't blame the Chinese for protecting their citizens. Oh yeah, their leader also claims that South Africa has a two billion year old nuclear reactor. Sounds like a clever bunch of people?

  • LOL! So now you're an expert on foreign relations? Maybe you should read before you run your mouth. Yes, China is burning coal right now, but they are the biggest investor in renewables on the planet. Why are you suggesting they want war? They're investing heavily in the US treasury and stock markets. Why TF would they attack their golden goose? Read a book titled How china's Leaders Think and you'll learn that China is liberalizing their country. There are plenty of sources, but that ones good.

  • hmmm

  • ur not gonna pay tax .. what are u stupid ??

    how do u think the government pays for welfare .. through OUR TAXES .. as much as u hate big government .. they sure do take good care of u when u need it though ..

    I have a feeling ur just looking for something to whine about charlie

  • @cveitch Good sentiments. And good call on China; not many people can hear the war drums from there. But, also look at Russia. A world war is brewing, one the West is not likely to win. Anatoliy Golitsyn tried warning the West for years but incompetence & counterintel ploys foiled his efforts. He tried to warn of Russ & Sino complicity. Search the Invision forum called TheFinalPhase to read about it.

  • So how'd you find time to shoot this video between smokin' blunts and pimpin' bitches?

    Don't wear shades to hide your lack of emotions, sir.

  • Because you are now approving comments, I can be sure that you will receive and read this one: Numerous times over the past few weeks, I have reminded you via comments of the message I sent you perhaps three weeks ago, which outlined the core, irrefutable proofs for controlled demolition on 9-11. I would really appreciate a careful, open-minded consideration of these proofs, and a response detailing your thoughts after having done so. Please read my 9-11 message and get back to me when you can.

  • Just wondering: How do you not pay tax when you are tracked by the government (given your prominence as an activist)? Couldn't they penalize you in some fashion for that? Or is your income low enough that you are simply not required to pay taxes?

  • Very Good Video.

  • I wonder if the "Commoners" were actually involved in politics if Government would not have become so corrupted?

  • Comment Pending Approval! 

  • fakey bakey

  • It's refreshing to see someone screening comments. More people need to realize that it's okay to control your own comment section.

    Lovely video, too.

  • You were born free, you will live free and you will die free.

  • Wicked Video Dude, On Point, Correct, and Back to the Charlie We know and LOVE

  • Wonderfully done and touching video!

    "The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service."

    ~Albert Einstein~

  • They died serving Wall Street.

  • oh no hes back

  • hi

  • "For every idealistic peacemaker willing to renounce his self-defence in favour of a weapons-free world, there is at least one warmaker anxious to exploit the other’s good intentions."

  • LOVE

  • Beautiful words charlie, keep up the good fight, we are legion

  • Didnt agrree with your veiws on 9/11 but on this one I loved it. Keep up the work bro.

  • Didnt agrree with your veiws on 911 but on this one I loved it. Keep up the work bro.

  • Charlie the fucking lier douchbag.

  • The reference to paying tax = war is simplistic and reductive as is Veitchs attitude to China ....Paying taxes also pays for good stuff like peoples heart operations ..social care etc ... paying taxes doesnt cause war ... its a daft argument to make ...

  • There are too many mothers who have let their children be used and abused as cannon fodder for politicians,queen and patriotism and in return they get a piece of paper and maybe a medal with some hollow words on it.It's just industrialized murder on a corporate scale !

  • Hey Charlie! Excellent video. You made great points, and eloquently so. Tao Te Ching 31 equates victory in war to a funeral. It says that the one who is wise uses force, only as a last resort, and then no more than is necessary.

  • Great words and great message! 

  • he sounds as if hes calling them fools when he says they got sucked in

  • Go and crawl under a rock Veitch you fucking pothead....begging parasite. Fucking mug should be ashamed with 9/11...fake your credibility is shot

  • So unconditional love is what your mate with the megaphone at the secret garden party was sharing was it ? - sounded like a randow spewing of hatred to me............................­the yogi comes along in his famous orange but if inside he is colourless......then what ...? Kabir.

  • So this is part of the rehabilitation programme is it Veitch...Mind you, you're last videos were steeped n a big " fuck you " to all the " hates ", but you see no differance in haters and critics, they can all fuck off as far as you're concerned if anyone dares critisise your ego. right Vietch ? Truth, beauty, and love, its so overwhelming, what a fucking cheesy creep you are, hustling the dead for you're own ends. Your deceptive conceit here proves you will stoop to any level for fame. Shame.

  • You are spreading nothing but mainstream Hollywood lies mixed with Hollywood emotions.

    *Nazinaziholocausthitlernazige­rmany*

    Liar! Fraud! Pathetic actor!

    Your dear friend, brat Charlie Gilmour, literally pisses on the graves of fallen soldiers and you hailed him, survivor in the third generation!

    Very poor performance.

  • i use to think you was right it what you say but now you just talk shit well that is what i think :(

  • oh dear, blocking ratings and selective comments, looks like someone hates freedom

  • Great video, pretty deep. I've heard Charlie say quite a few times that we should stop paying taxes, anyone know how that is legally possible. (Probably a stupid question.)

  • Most of those guys were drafed in so it wasnt always by choice

  • Awesome vid Charlie

  • Hitler and the Nazi's were funded through Wallstreet. Tell me, how can a country devastated after one world war become a 'super power' within a couple of decades when they were in debt up to their eyeballs with all nations they fought against? The money had to come from somewhere. It was only about 10 years ago the UK had finished paying back it's debt from WW2. Kind of says it all really..

  • Communism is the only way to truly live in freedom and peace. China is not communism anymore, it is capitalist.

  • In other unrelated news. I really need a shit. I want to see you embarrassing police.

  • Wow. You stopped acting stupidly and allowed people to voice there opinion. I found it quite hypercritical when you disabled the comment and stopped people from voicing there opinion, which I believe that free speech is what you strongly believe in. Ironic. Well done Charlie!

  • Wow. You stopped acting stupidly and allowed people to voice there opinion. I found it quite hypercritical when you disabled the comment and stopped people from voicing there opinion, which I believe that free speech is what you strongly believe in. Ironic. Well done Charlie!

  • I don't like how you seem to bash communism. You don't seem to understand what it is. In communism everyone is equal. 100% equal. Therefor there has never existed a communist state because the state has had more power then the normal worker. Communism is the ultimate goal (for you too if you listen to what you acctually want) and we should not say communism when we're talking about a totalitarian left leaning state.

  • For the haters: Charlie is a member of the Love Police, not the 9/11 Truther Commission. He is entirely entitled to change his mind, when and if he wants. For my own part I would like him to explain the anomaly of thermite found in the ruins of the twin towers, and perhaps explain how building 7 collapsed in on itself. But I do not and will not condemn him for his views. I also agree with him that foreign invasions in places like Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan are more important issues at min.

  • 9/11 was a MEDIA JOB, (TV FAKERY.... BBC, FOX, CBS, ABC, CNN....et al... even bigger FAKES than Charlie here) ... and a few mad scientists backed by the Industrial Monetary Fund, and endorsed by big war profit...

  • Germany fourth reich, vs china?

  • keep up the work mate and I disagree with you about 911 but everyone can have their own opinion if not what are we fighting agaist?? peace

  • Whats up with the white patch on the side of your head?

  • Thank you Charlie, you are a truly inspiring being.

  • You can't bomb your way to peace.

  • With love..... this video was awesome! keep it up.

  • great video

  • I've got to agree, this is one of the best video's of yours, that I've seen. You say you'd fight only for your own cause, that'd be a major flaw, (Not saying you are, just an example) Your cause could be to mutilate innocent people.. We should fight for freedom, and love.. not for greed and gold. Currency, is the most corrupt aspect, to this machine styled life. That video of the party you recently uploaded, that's how life should be like... unconditional love as you mention!

  • but then again this is the media so who knows whats true and whats not...

  • i do agree with what charlie totally says, as its just common knowledge and common sense....something the sheeple seem to lose watching eastenders. But and I know you never start a sentence with but, but in history books, & were taught millions were sent to death in the camps....I have to say & many will give me shit over this but like many professors say,millions in the camps just cant be possible, it just cannot. Its too many too fast,they reckon maybe 50-100 thousand ppl died in the camps

  • youre a disgrace. i hope youre psyopping the psyoppers

  • like

  • They call it troll logic when I say "No one joins the army = world peace".

  • So nice

  • Great video, Charlie.

    I feel I should point out that Falun Gong *is* definitely a dangerous cult that has intentionally encouraged members up to martyr themselves in order to garner unthinking support from people opposed to Chinese communism - Ironically, a cynical manipulation worthy of people like Kissinger, whom you've mentioned here!

    I've personally seen it damage people terribly... Not that violent crackdowns are a proper way to deal with such a phenomenon.

    Education is key.

  • I really hope you're wrong about China

  • china is not as bad as the fear news portray them and the chinese government/control not so far from western countrys we live in as you clearly think