PENTAX K-7(5.2 fps) vs Nikon D3(at：5.0 fps) shooting with LENZ

[dan007iel]

While you guys argue about 0.2 FPS, I'll go take some photos.

[PhotoStoreKiev]

5.2 fps is too slower then 5 fps :)))))))))

[DeltaAnt1000]

Were the shutter speeds the same?

[peskytoo]

Keep pressing that shutter in pointless comparisons, I need a cheap D3 off eBay. Firmly in the Nikon camp now but Pentax got me through college. Pentax made some amazing glass, hope they still do!

[Orion795]

stupid comparison...



[SunnyCapricon]

i am using Canon nowadays i used PENTAX also and nikon also all companies are good i lik eone thig in pentax it produce good sharpness in picture now adays i am using Eos 550D canon although it has many great feature but when i saw my old pentax 6.0 mega pixels picture it makes me confuse , OLD IS GOLD

[uzer85]

which stupid ppl compare fullframe dslr with mid size slr~

[ashtonwentworth1]

why put the d3 at 5fps why not 11?

[mobstar1187]

i think i ll get the pentax k-7

[thehots123]

to be real honest. nikon and canon cameras are really overestimated. nikon and canon are mostly either for urban and still life shooting because they are not as rugged as pentax. pentax is an all around camera. u could bring a pentax to a rainforest and take moneyshots while nikon and canon cameras are being ruined by the moisture and stuff. i used to own a nikon d300 and a canon 50D. i dumped both of them for the pentax k5

[GrendelPL]

so quiet.... i've switched from k10d to d200, aiming for d7000 probably, because of ISO noise in K10d (at ISO1600 there is no way to make a good photo in a church)... But when i hear the k10d or k7, i wish to have such a quet mirror and shutter in nikon...

[KRAFTWERK2K6]

The Pentax K5 does even shoot 7 fps and is still really quite. :3

Seriously i'll never buy any camera by canon or nikon anymore. They are way to expensive since you only pay for their brandname.

[IceFreshProductions]

@KRAFTWERK2K6 That is true but what about the 550D ?

[SmalltimR]

D3 is loud compared to the K-7 lol

[TheIndoorFllyer1]

Wouldn't it have helped to shoot them both at the same time?

[bestamerica]

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i like that camera,,,

this camera cannot fit in my pocket

[relent107luke]

Those sound SO lame compared to my new 7D I just got at 8FPS

[FinlandApollo]

@relent107luke well, D3 isn't firing with full speed...

[relent107luke]

@FinlandApollo Uh...why not? You're doing a demonstration, why don' you have it shooting full speed?

[FinlandApollo]

@relent107luke Who knows? :D Nikon D3 can fire 9 fps with full frame and with DX crop mode it can fire 11 fps. Maybe it shoots just 5,0 fps so it would not be so overpowered next to K-7, which is very good camera too

[bboylilsoul]

what is best- Nikon d5000, pentax kx or canon eos 550d ?? :)

[whisperingvenus]

@bboylilsoul i got k-x, and it's great.. couldn't beat the price for such a camera

[estoyaqui85]

@bboylilsoul pentax kx.

[IceFreshProductions]

@bboylilsoul I think 550D but also look at Sony A33. Good luck.

[nishal92]

You can still hear faster mirror blackout on D3... I am Canonian, but still love Nikons!

[satansludge]

So, whats the point ? Both cameras are of a different class in most aspects, but I'll go the Pentax thanks. If you'd like to compare Nikon to Pentax compare the Nikon D3000 and the Pentax KX, Both entry level, Both very similar price, both differ very much. the Nikon is bascally over priced compared with the Pentax. Yes Nikon are one of the best in the market but also one of the most expensive. Go pentax !

[innysik2008]

i don't like nikon

[stariboroda]

Just listened to my one year old K-7 and recorded the sound, then measured it against this. My K-7 is a little bit faster than this, and also a little bit faster than the D3 just like the specs say. Five consecutive cycles (same stage) are 0,77 seconds apart on my K-7, 0,79 seconds on the D3 if this video reproduces it correctly.

[Legendation]

idiots wasting shutter.

[Xyb3rTeCh]

canon 50D beats this crap out of it

[eurocolorclimax]

I haven't Pentax K7, but I have tried the the real K7 on sale, which is more faster than this. THIS VIDEO is taken in a Nikon stand to put on value D3. Really pathetic...

[thetafour]

Cuz he probably didnt put it in a manual setting which gets full speed.... dumbass who ever set it up.

[chaosrealm93]

how come the pentax sounds slower?

[tuintu]

bozcan lan !  :)

[rollinthilldeath]

the conditions of these two cameras are deffinetly not the same.i ve compared with another vidoe and k-7 does much better than this.

[TheJoePepper]

Are they both set at the same shutter speed? It seems like the Pentax is set at a lower shutter speed.

[donconco]

Thoses DSLRs are in completely different leagues. First of all, the Nikon D3/D3x/D3s is a professional grade full frame (35mm) digital single lens reflex camera whilst the Pentax K-7 is - despite being Pentax' most advanced DSLR at the time of writing - a semi-professional model. There is also a huge price difference between the bodies: Nikon [$3800] vs Pentax K-7 [$1050]. Both are excellent photographic tools, just aimed at different consumers imo (:

[xaniared]

true

[DaveHaggar]

I've never seen such a fixed test as this, the K7 is obviously low on battery power compared to the fully charged battery of the Nikon. Now don't tell me Nikon is actually shatting themselves because Pentax have finally started bringing out high quality DSLR's and they're worried it's going to affect their sales. I first bought the K10 3 years ago and it was a great camera, I've just now upgraded to the K7 and it's superb. Also the K7 has won Camera of the year 09 on a number of camera websites

[iAteUrCookies]

Why do people argue about which company is better than which? As long as you use the camera + equipment right then you don't have to worry about that stuff. Lots of professional photographers haul around Nikon, Canon, Olympus, etc gear at the same time.

[collarenvy]

can i chime in

on this?

[inteligence1]

For most of the K7 is great SLR and #1choice. Why would someone compare highest end professional SLR (D3) to the (K7)?unless nikon fans feel threatened? Continuous Shooting K7 das shoot 5-5.2f/s.(we tested).-if u wanna make movies-switch to movie mode Bottom Line!!the D3 sensor is 36x24mm!!! and K7 is 23.4x15.6mm!!anyone who know about digital photography knows that sensor size and lens!! is your quality!

If u making serious living with photography u buy $5000 nikon, I got K7 and it rocks!

[VanderFeurfitz]

-THIS IS TOO OLD... USE PENTAX K-5

If you're serious about photography buy a PENTAX K-5 and you'll be happy with Image quality specially in LOW LIGHTING condition where clients are annoyed with too many flashes , flash there, flash here and everybody getting angry.

USE PENTAX K-5 AND BE HAPPY (no angry clients)

[KatiushaVN4]

@inteligence1

You say so because you're a K7 owner. You say it is good although it sucks

[protolink24]

@KatiushaVN4 Why not try a Pentax before making uneducated comments?

[sloveheng]

k-7 wins

[Salha7]

The K-7 sounds slower.

[inteligence1]

The number of frames that can be taken is defined by the size of the buffer where images are stored before they are processed (in case of a before image processing buffer) and written to the storage card.

[Salha7]

Oh i see, sorry my mistake i didn't realise that, thank you for the information i do appreciate it.

[DragonPH1]

Is it just me... or does the K-7 sounding slower and slower each time he push the button ?

[AndreasFehrm]

The Pentax is getting tired after a few shots maybe, haha. ^^

[johndurg]

The pentax sounds way quieter. I'd rather have a quiet camera than a fast camera. Who cares if it shoots 10 fps? It's just more identical pictures to sift through in the computer. 5fps is plenty. If i wanted really high fps, i'd get a video camera.

I have the K20d and love it. I got an amazing pentax 50mm 1.4 for $250 and two amazing vintage Pentax lenses from eBay for $100 each!

[psynema]

It's quieter. Speed seems to be the same. The Nikon actually got an extra button press vs. the k7 the first round

[VanderFeurfitz]

Just remember when you see ridiculous comparison like this

pentax k7 - 5.2 fps - $ 1,300 retail

nikon d3 -  $ 5,000 retail

you can always tell the the person who made the comparison doesn't want his/her beloved brand being toppled by the best innovation ever created.

LOL .... its like suppose to be a duel between two kids but instead the other kid called his father to do the duel ...AHAHAH AH HA HA HA...

[awsomenesscaleb]

The point of the test was to see if Pentax was lying about their camera being 5.2fps, and they were. 5fps is 5fps regardless of how much you pay for it.

[VanderFeurfitz]

"LYING" HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK COMPANY IS ABOUT LYING.

Or Do you mean to say that K-7 is not good enough to your $5,000 .

If you put CANON 50D side by side with K-7 at least i might believe that your intention is COMPARISON but at least maybe you got paid to to this... so i understand.

[awsomenesscaleb]

A second is the same amount of time regardless of how big a shutter may be, so four frames per second with a tiny 4/3 shutter should move exactly as fast as a medium format shutter at that speed, or in this case, an APS shutter should move exactly as fast as the full frame shutter of the D3 if they are both doing 5fps. How do you not understand this? Are you mathematically retarded or something?

[estoyaqui85]

@VanderFeurfitz 50D and K-7 are out for about the same price these days in Spain

[krondyl]

yee d3+gripp 8fps

k7+ gripp 5,2 fps

hehehe

[awsomenesscaleb]

Are you talking about the D300? The D3 already has a built-in grip.

[joako2706]

All very funny stuff,but add the Canon 1D mkIII

and it will literally obliterate both of them.

Go Canon

[tachyon17011701]

doesnt the D3 shoot at 9fps?

[Devilonsteroids]

Lol they set the pentax to the low 3.3 setting. Lol FAIL.

[awsomenesscaleb]

People, their comparing the burst speed of the two cameras, not the actual cameras themselves. The Nikon D3 has an actual 5.0fps burst speed when selected, so they were seeing if the K-7 truly had a 5.2fps burst speed, whic, apparently, it doesn't.

[LeDaveee]

Nice, they're comparing a Pentax APS-C to a Nikon full frame. Very impressive. Pentax must be using alien technology in order for them to compare those side by side.

[loudstone]

CMOS > (is greater than) APS > APS-C >CCD. Correct? Correct me if I'm wrong-- You're saying in your post that Nikon is the (much) better camera b/c it's writing to memory ALL that data from the full-frame CMOS compared to the Pentax being a hair slower with a much lighter load of data. Am I right?

The K7 is impressive as a prosumer model. I LOVE the weather-resistant feature set. A good photog should be able to take a great pic with either model.

[LeDaveee]

CMOS isn't technically better than CCD. That's basically comparing apples to oranges. Most DSLR manufacturers are switching over to CMOS now because it's less costly to manufacture and contains less circuit lines, therefore the data has less lines to transfer through so it'll transfer "faster". But CCD has better low iso noise levels. I think the Nikon D3 sounded faster because it has a louder shutter sound. After all D3 is a 5,000 dollar camera vs the 1,3000 K-7. So D3 is bound to be "better".

[dvamateur]

Yeah, no wonder faster and faster cameras are appearing on the market like mashrooms after rain. We got a 24 megapixel Sony doing 5fps, which wouldn't be possible with a CCD sensor. Also, I agree that CCD sensors have lower noise levels. I would make an analogy to engines here. CCDs are like gasoline, not economical, but high performance. And CMOS are like diesel. They are good for different things. It'd be nice to have a choice though, and not be stack with CMOS only for the future...

[awsomenesscaleb]

CCD < CMOS

APS = APS-C

[jujujuto]

CCD DR > CMOS DR

Check out FujiFilm S3 from 2004, more DR than Nikon D3

[quimjoe]

The Pentax K7 is a advance DSLR, the Nikon D3 is a profissinal full frame camera. It is like comparing two diferent worlds. Pentax is a robust, well build, weather resistant camera. Excelent image quality, excelent handling. Build like a tank the K7 features all you need in an advance camera.

The Nikon D3 is Stunning in all aspects, but it is a profissional camera and it was created for that purposes

Both are speacular cameras but are...two diferent worlds.

Very silly comparison.

[crocotone]

the lens on the D3 looks like a Tamron 18-270 to me. I sam that one on a 450D too... hehe funny.

[Timblch]

Dirty contacts, mb

[zigmundF]

Dead batteries on the K-7!?

[tmj41765]

Nikon- noisy & over hyped, lousy customer support! that's the reason I switched to Pentax and I HONESTLY couldn't be happier - great customer service! they cleaned my sensor for free when I had 1 week left on the year warranty. It didn't need fixed, just cleaned! THANKS PENTAX!

[alainhardy27]

which lens the nikon has ?

what is the model?

[robilove]

looks like a Tamron lens maybe the 28-75mm f/2.8 !!

[awsomenesscaleb]

Definitely the Tamron 28-75mm. It's really a great lens, even on the highly acclaimed D3.

[10034859]

that isnt 5 fps

[gabymarian]

I've recorded not only this clip of K-7's FPS and i've discovered that is about 4 frames/second, not 5,2. The Nikon D3 has trully 5 fps on the record.

[XeniaElectricCo]

Full frame vs non full frame camera FPS

=

stupid comparison.

[socal1000]

all you got to do is buy a canon

thats it just buy a canon

50d 6.3 fps

5d mark 2 3.9 fps full frame 21 mpx

the bamf of speed the 1d mark 3

10fps 10.1 mpx 4k body

[BogmaRAKI]

Both Canon 40D and Canon 50D have soft images even after pushing the sharpness settings. Who cares the 6.3 fps but with soft images...That is how Canon convinced the people for years by hiding the noise behind their those soft images. Image quality wise only and maybe Canon 5D can come close to the Pentax K20D's image quality at landscapes. At higher ISOs, I admit that Pentax line is not a class leading camera but I can live with that.

[eieui]

You are wrong about the 40D. The IQ is great (I know because I have a 40D).

I like the K20D. It produces very good images as well, with excelent performance at higher ISOs. It is slower than the 40D. So what? The lenses are cheaper (and also very good) and the K20D has shake reduction (which is a considerable advantage).

There is no reason to pretend that other cameras have some flaws like "soft images".

[BogmaRAKI]

eieu - The image quality is great according to what and whom ? There is a softness issue at Canon 40D and 50D and the images are not sharp. I do not see the same 3D effect at Canon 40D images even with L lenses in compare to the ones you get from Pentax K20D. In my previous comment, I do not have any complain about high ISO performance of Pentax. I only wrote that it is not class leading. Read carefully !

[eieui]

My 40D doesn't have this softness problem, even when I select the "portrait" mode (sharpness 2). A few days ago I could compare the 40D to the K20D and the only significant differences are the resolution and the colors. The K20D produces sharper images but with some sharpening artefacts (I could get similar results easily with my 40D).

[BogmaRAKI]

eieui - I fully disagree. The 40D images has no where near the Pentax image quality once you shoot in raw format. Obviously our tastes are quite different and I really don't see any point to spend effort and time to convince you. Go and get your similar results. I really do not care.

[awsomenesscaleb]

Why does it matter what camera you use to take the picture you want? Both are fully capable dSLRs that produce great results under different conditions.

You'll look like a fool if you try to tell Picaso that you can make better artwork just because you have a better and more expensive paintbrush.

STFU you stupid measurebator.

[couscousdelight]

And what about the speed of the flashcards used in this test ?

[tmtke]

A friend of mine has a D3. It is loud as hell :)

[bcuz909]

The D3 has to move a full-frame mirror while the K7 is only moving a APS-sized mirror. Would have been better to compare the D300

[qksilver123]

I like how all camera manufacturers claim these high FPS but if you try and count 5 clicks in 1 second you will realize that the frame rate is more like 3 fps (although my k20d which is rated at 3 fps is more like 2fps

[jiojinn]

Actually, K-7 frame rate was measured at more than 5 fps while K20D frame rate was more like 2.7 fps.

[SpeedFreakNO]

Wrong. My camera, K10D; does actually have 3FPS :P Not hard to test. Count the K-7 here, it's correct.

[kennyutube123]

Play the video a few times and you will notice that the 3rd time the K7 button was pushed that the speed is slower than the first time it was pushed. I suspect that the batteries are almost dead on the K7.

[xekbixsi]

is it just me or does the nikon sound faster?

[kchiem]

it is.

pentax k7 - 5.2 fps - $1300 retail

nikon d3 - 9 fps - $5000 retail

[jiojinn]

it s just a feeling here. By the way D300 can make 8 fps.

[jiojinn]

I think D3 here is in "lo" mode, so that it shoots @5fps, certainly a little more